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Started by WhiteWings, September 28, 2008, 11:52:48 AM

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WhiteWings

The first occurrence of the name:
Matthew 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Strongs definitions
QuoteIhsou/j Iesous {ee-ay-sooce'}
Meaning:  Jesus = "Jehovah is salvation"

Quotehw"hoy> Yehovah {yeh-ho-vaw'}
Meaning:  Jehovah = "the existing One"


"God is salvation" or "God saves" are both correct 'translations' I think.
My question is about the word "is"
The word "is" most definitely means that God can/will save.
But to what extend?
Is the name Jesus a direct UR quote? => saves all
Or does it just mean that God saves but to a unknown extent?
Yes I know there are many 'saves all' verses; and I agree with them.
So right now it's just about the word "is" or the word "Jesus"

:newb:
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

WhiteWings

1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

IceDash

I did like to know that...

micah7:9

To the extent of the extent....I AM

WhiteWings

Little feedback please! :msealed:
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

CHB

Quote from: WhiteWings on September 28, 2008, 11:52:48 AM
The first occurrence of the name:
Matthew 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Strongs definitions
QuoteIhsou/j Iesous {ee-ay-sooce'}
Meaning:  Jesus = "Jehovah is salvation"

Quotehw"hoy> Yehovah {yeh-ho-vaw'}
Meaning:  Jehovah = "the existing One"


"God is salvation" or "God saves" are both correct 'translations' I think.
My question is about the word "is"
The word "is" most definitely means that God can/will save.
But to what extend?
Is the name Jesus a direct UR quote? => saves all
Or does it just mean that God saves but to a unknown extent?
Yes I know there are many 'saves all' verses; and I agree with them.
So right now it's just about the word "is" or the word "Jesus"

:newb:

I don't understand the problem with the word "is". If "Jesus is salvation" then wouldn't that be like a permenant absolute thing? Wouldn't that be the same as saying "God is Spirit".

CHB

WhiteWings

It's not a problem.
Perhaps its just because I'm just apply Dutch 'grammer logic' on English.
For me 'is' makes the statement stronger.
Similar to: "Jesus saves" and "Jesus really saves"
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...