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Title: Jesus
Post by: WhiteWings on September 28, 2008, 11:52:48 AM

The first occurrence of the name:
Matthew 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Strongs definitions

QuoteIhsou/j Iesous {ee-ay-sooce'}
Meaning: Jesus = "Jehovah is salvation"

Quotehw"hoy> Yehovah {yeh-ho-vaw'}
Meaning: Jehovah = "the existing One"

"God is salvation" or "God saves" are both correct 'translations' I think.
My question is about the word "is"
The word "is" most definitely means that God can/will save.
But to what extend?
Is the name Jesus a direct UR quote? => saves all
Or does it just mean that God saves but to a unknown extent?
Yes I know there are many 'saves all' verses; and I agree with them.
So right now it's just about the word "is" or the word "Jesus"

:newb:

Title: Re: Jesus
Post by: WhiteWings on October 03, 2008, 08:23:50 PM

:bump:

Title: Re: Jesus
Post by: IceDash on January 21, 2009, 11:13:20 PM

I did like to know that...

Title: Re: Jesus
Post by: micah7:9 on January 27, 2009, 01:08:37 AM

To the extent of the extent....I AM

Title: Re: Jesus
Post by: WhiteWings on January 28, 2009, 08:13:23 AM

Little feedback please! :msealed:

Title: Re: Jesus
Post by: CHB on January 28, 2009, 06:30:33 PM

Quote from: WhiteWings on September 28, 2008, 11:52:48 AM
The first occurrence of the name:
Matthew 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Strongs definitions
QuoteIhsou/j Iesous {ee-ay-sooce'}
Meaning: Jesus = "Jehovah is salvation"

Quotehw"hoy> Yehovah {yeh-ho-vaw'}
Meaning: Jehovah = "the existing One"

"God is salvation" or "God saves" are both correct 'translations' I think.
My question is about the word "is"
The word "is" most definitely means that God can/will save.
But to what extend?
Is the name Jesus a direct UR quote? => saves all
Or does it just mean that God saves but to a unknown extent?
Yes I know there are many 'saves all' verses; and I agree with them.
So right now it's just about the word "is" or the word "Jesus"

:newb:

I don't understand the problem with the word "is". If "Jesus is salvation" then wouldn't that be like a permenant absolute thing? Wouldn't that be the same as saying "God is Spirit".

CHB

Title: Re: Jesus
Post by: WhiteWings on January 28, 2009, 06:36:14 PM

It's not a problem.
Perhaps its just because I'm just apply Dutch 'grammer logic' on English.
For me 'is' makes the statement stronger.
Similar to: "Jesus saves" and "Jesus really saves"

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