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What is Leviathan? Why would God slay Leviathan?

Started by Peacetroll, August 06, 2008, 01:10:19 AM

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Peacetroll

Leviathan is the chief of the children of Pride.
He is the veil that covers the whole world. There is a double deception going on in the world, that would fool even the elect if it were possible.
There is an angel ruling over the kingdoms of the world as God, just as he said he would do.

Isaiah 14:12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
 

14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

This is that veil, and he who lets, and the one who offered the world to Jesus.  It is not the great dragon, it is his angel in rebellion, the chief of the watchers.  The word satan means adversary.  There are many things called devils, or satans, but only one Darkness, the great red dragon, the sword that is furbished, the wrath of God, which is poured out on the earth before the return of Christ to rule the earth.
Will you be decieved and believe Antichrist is Jesus,   savior of the world at the fall of Leviathan, Babylon?[Confusion]

Now I know there will be derision coming, so let me follow up with what followed the discription of Leviathan.
What did God, who dwelt in the thick Darkness say to Job about the world?

Job 41:10None is so fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before me?

11Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine.

Now, what did the devil [Leviathan, Baelzebub, the prince of the devils] say to Jesus when he offered Him the world?

Luke 4:5And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

6And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.

7If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.

One place says all that is under the heaven is mine, no boast that the heavens are, and the other says  it is delivered to him, and he gives it to whom he will.  Not the same entity. This is the house divided, and a great mystery that decieves the whole world for a purpose.



Taffy

#26
Quote from: Peacetroll on August 06, 2008, 10:59:57 PM
Leviathan is the chief of the children of Pride.
He is the veil that covers the whole world. There is a double deception going on in the world, that would fool even the elect if it were possible.
There is an angel ruling over the kingdoms of the world as God, just as he said he would do.

Isaiah 14:12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
 

14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

This is that veil, and he who lets, and the one who offered the world to Jesus.  It is not the great dragon, it is his angel in rebellion, the chief of the watchers.  The word satan means adversary.  There are many things called devils, or satans, but only one Darkness, the great red dragon, the sword that is furbished, the wrath of God, which is poured out on the earth before the return of Christ to rule the earth.
Will you be decieved and believe Antichrist is Jesus,   savior of the world at the fall of Leviathan, Babylon?[Confusion]

Now I know there will be derision coming, so let me follow up with what followed the discription of Leviathan.
What did God, who dwelt in the thick Darkness say to Job about the world?

Job 41:10None is so fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before me?

11Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine.

Now, what did the devil [Leviathan, Baelzebub, the prince of the devils] say to Jesus when he offered Him the world?

Luke 4:5And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

6And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.

7If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.

One place says all that is under the heaven is mine, no boast that the heavens are, and the other says  it is delivered to him, and he gives it to whom he will.  Not the same entity. This is the house divided, and a great mystery that decieves the whole world for a purpose.




Then why ask others and start a Thread, what you fail to realise PT, you too were Levi-athon ET all, you keep perceiving OUTWARDLY....for ever searching, yet never Knowing.

Ya just may attract some who will take this futher ,..because again, for mine your off on FALSE tangents..far to many to be discussed in one thread , let alone one post

Next thread Please :sigh:


Peacetroll

  Your explanation is just talking about outward verses inward.  Do you actually read and consider any of the scriptures presented with the explanation?  Copying what I post and putting a snide remark about mysticism at the end is redundant.
Philosophy is fine, but why not prove I am wrong with a wealth of opposing scriptures, if you can.

Taffy

#28
Quote from: Peacetroll on August 06, 2008, 11:39:16 PM
  Your explanation is just talking about outward verses inward.  Do you actually read and consider any of the scriptures presented with the explanation?  Copying what I post and putting a snide remark about mysticism at the end is redundant.
Philosophy is fine, but why not prove I am wrong with a wealth of opposing scriptures, if you can.

You went off in false tangents, to much for this thread let alone One post...Yes PT, The INWARD man is what the scriptures speaks of, that being the reality of the Natural...have you read some of your Comments Bud...ill not copy and paste them..there there for all to see..try the last thread.


reFORMer

#29
Quote from: Peacetroll on August 06, 2008, 11:39:16 PM
  Your explanation is just talking about outward verses inward.  Do you actually read and consider any of the scriptures presented with the explanation?  Copying what I post and putting a snide remark about mysticism at the end is redundant.
Philosophy is fine, but why not prove I am wrong with a wealth of opposing scriptures, if you can.
If the little fella' can only toot one note on his little horn it might be cute if he'd follow the conductor, finding his place in the orchestra.  But if every time you get around him he has to blast his one note over and over in your ear . . .

David said, "One thing have I desired of the LORD, that will I seek after; that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to behold the beauty of the LORD, and to enquire in his temple." (Psalm 27:4)

Jesus' "one thing" described of Mary was to sit at his feet and hear his word.  That he says would never be taken away.

Paul's "one thing" was victory over death in a transfigured incorruptible body.

I think they're all about the same: to be permanently possessed by God.  When do you ever speak of this? even as an appendix to your obsession?

Peacetroll's one thing is the Serpents Seed doctrine.  Ancient Evil Conspiracy, woo oo . . .the "wealth of opposing Scripture" has been lavished on you repeatedly.  Really only one should do.  (Where there's one there is at least two or three.)  You have no Scripture directly stating what you keep repeating.

Addressing another particular in the whole complexion you present . . . you need to stop and understand why the Pauline corpus is included in the N. T.  It's fine that Jesus came and fulfilled types and shadows in the Law and Prophets: but, if that was all we had we would have virtually nothing.  The mystery is how we are a part of it.  How can we become part of the Glory cloud that rests upon the Mercy Throne?  This is what Paul unfolds.  From the tone of the man it seems impossible to imagine him a liar anyway; but, if the events he describes never took place, like opposing Peter to his face at Antioch, or the right hand of fellowship from those who were apostles before him, there were enough people around who were directly disciples of Jesus and built up on the doctrine of the other apostles to object to Paul sufficiently that God would've preserved for us a witness to that effect for our own benefit.  The anti-Paul theory is incredible once you meditate carefully on certain things Jesus said, like John 17.  Knowing how little people seem able to think for themselves, the grace of God operated in Paul to think a lot of it out for you already.

martincisneros

Quote from: Taffy on August 06, 2008, 10:48:30 PM
Quote from: SOtW on August 06, 2008, 10:42:18 PM
:boyheart: I see the correlation, though couldn't understand how it was funny or absurd, which usually laughing out loud (LOL) represents, that is all.  :dontknow:
Gee, mes British . language Barrier...I was led to understand it meant to agree....But Understand Laughing out Loud( LOL) makes sence.... :icon_flower:

:popout: Does this count as an international incident? :eek:

martincisneros

Quote from: joyful1 on August 06, 2008, 01:35:45 PM
Quote from: martincisneros on August 06, 2008, 11:37:38 AM
P.S. Even our emoticons agree and favor my interpretation.  Check out this beast :thewife:
that's why you could be accused of being the false prophet, Martin--better update your emoticons! (http://dl3.glitter-graphics.net/pub/568/568363v9kx6xu2g5.gif)

:hihat: Will this work better then, for the men that are Leviathans? :talkangry:

:Peace: :afFro:

Taffy

Quote from: martincisneros on August 07, 2008, 08:18:32 AM
Quote from: Taffy on August 06, 2008, 10:48:30 PM
Quote from: SOtW on August 06, 2008, 10:42:18 PM
:boyheart: I see the correlation, though couldn't understand how it was funny or absurd, which usually laughing out loud (LOL) represents, that is all.  :dontknow:
Gee, mes British . language Barrier...I was led to understand it meant to agree....But Understand Laughing out Loud( LOL) makes sence.... :icon_flower:

:popout: Does this count as an international incident? :eek:

Now I am laughing out Loud, I believe Craig is Canadian...? what the correct slang..Canook?....Yes it all OUT war , My popularity around here seems to be Slipping, need to boost my Ratings...Youve had your Canadian Bacon(John Candy) now its Time for British Gammon( Taffyman)..he haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! :icon_flower:


Taffy

QuoteThe mystery is how we are a part of it.  How can we become part of the Glory that rests upon the Mercy Throne?  This is what Paul unfolds

Amem REF :icon_flower:

rosered



  Another great  thread , love the stimulus , and everyones  thoughts on this ,
  I recall   the beast whos deadly wound was healed Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. [ THE LAW ?] Live by the Law die by the Law ? judging the world ,judge  others  by this Law condemantion  etc ?

  the power of life and death are in the toungue   

Rom 5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life.

 
  this may also refer to Levi athan [  sea  beast]   like the Behemoth [ earthly beast] both  found in Job as well as thoughout the Bible ,  even in Rev   ,  thanks to Pt and all for the  posts   peace  to you  :icon_flower:
Jesus is the reward  !!

joyful1

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Quote from: martincisneros on August 07, 2008, 08:25:57 AM
:hihat: Will this work better then, for the men that are Leviathans? :talkangry:
Martin-- This just in: It has been scientifically proven that ALL MEN have LDNA (Leviathan Deoxyribonucleic acid)! This message approved by Paris Hilton! ehehehehe  :laughing7:

WhiteWings

Martin don't let yourself be insulted by an apple eater  :laughing7:
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

joyful1

Quote from: WhiteWings on August 07, 2008, 08:43:05 PM
Martin don't let yourself be insulted by an apple eater  :laughing7:
This coming from a rabbit in a dress walking upright? heehehehhe :laughing7:

martincisneros

Quote from: WhiteWings on August 07, 2008, 08:43:05 PM
Martin don't let yourself be insulted by an apple eater  :laughing7:
:Chinscratch:

Taffy

WARNING.

Please do Not Hyjack Threads.....,Martim Consider yourself Fired...you should KNow better...but im happy to waver this as Long as I can Play. :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

whats an Apple eater anyway?... these ladies are pushing the Boat out some Bro :laughing7:
Taffy




martincisneros

Quote from: Taffy on August 07, 2008, 09:09:44 PM
whats an Apple eater anyway?...

I don't know. I'm still busy looking at my DNA under a microscope :umnick:
and trying to hunt down a Leviathan for a DNA comparison :robinhood:

martincisneros

Quote from: Taffy on August 07, 2008, 09:09:44 PM
Please do Not Hyjack Threads.....,Martin...you should KNow better...but im happy to waver this as Long as I can Play. :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

We need the occasional thread that goes all over the place to keep things interesting, recreational, and vibrant around here.  Besides, this is in the Member's Lounge.  When Mercy was administrator, maybe a third of the threads would do this.  And if I remember right, we had a few more really active members as a result.

Taffy

Quote from: martincisneros on August 07, 2008, 09:28:47 PM
Quote from: Taffy on August 07, 2008, 09:09:44 PM
Please do Not Hyjack Threads.....,Martin...you should KNow better...but im happy to waver this as Long as I can Play. :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

We need the occasional thread that goes all over the place to keep things interesting, recreational, and vibrant around here.  Besides, this is in the Member's Lounge.  When Mercy was administrator, maybe a third of the threads would do this.  And if I remember right, we had a few more really active members as a result.
Indeed we do, :icon_flower:   they were here prior to your administration bro..and of late I can sure do with a Little light heartedness.  :bigGrin:

hows that DNA check?

WhiteWings

Apple eaters....  :bgdance:
Somewhere in Genesis 3 there is a lady that went out shopping with her new boyfriend the snake for some fruit.

Because of that I won't have cold feet in the here-after :ty:


1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

joyful1

Quote from: martincisneros on August 07, 2008, 09:22:45 PM
Quote from: Taffy on August 07, 2008, 09:09:44 PM
whats an Apple eater anyway?...

I don't know. I'm still busy looking at my DNA under a microscope :umnick:
and trying to hunt down a Leviathan for a DNA comparison :robinhood:
(http://dl3.glitter-graphics.net/pub/568/568363v9kx6xu2g5.gif)

Taffy

Quote from: WhiteWings on August 07, 2008, 09:39:25 PM
Apple eaters....  :bgdance:
Somewhere in Genesis 3 there is a lady that went out shopping with her new boyfriend the snake for some fruit.

Because of that I won't have cold feet in the here-after :ty:



Agh. That Lady......Gee Martin, how did we Miss that ONE... :mblush:

nice one WW

joyful1

#46
Quote from: WhiteWings on August 07, 2008, 09:39:25 PM
Apple eaters....  :bgdance:
Somewhere in Genesis 3 there is a lady that went out shopping with her new boyfriend the snake for some fruit.
Because of that I won't have cold feet in the here-after :ty:
you won't have to worry about not having enough heat, wabbit, that's fur sur! :laughing7: You know of course....I'm talking about the Lake of Fire, right?? thought I'd modify this post to make sure you knew! Apparently, I'm digging myself in deeper than I intended to...help!  :surrender:

Joyce :)

martincisneros

Quote from: Taffy on August 08, 2008, 06:15:03 PM
Agh. That Lady......Gee Martin, how did we Miss that ONE... :mblush:

We were asleep while God made her and while she was shopping for candied apples.  By the time we woke up, we'd already been eaten out of house and home :dontknow: