Jesus brother Jude.

[Mickiel]

Consider this closely: if you look at the ingredients that a chef is using to prepare a dish, you may disagree with those ingredients and how they have used them. But the bottom line is the resulting taste of the dish isn't it? How is it going to turn out. Now God has used these ingredients in the creation of humanity; Death, Sin, Evil, Confusion, Pain, troubles and turmoil along with the Darkness. There is nothing Good about those things, BUT he has used them. We can certainly question him as to why he has done this and consider him using other ways to have prepared us. But its what he has done. THATS the thing most willnot consider about God. If he has used something, then it NEEDED to be used! That need makes the ingredient very important to him in HIS purpose.

As the writers of the bible were considering God,  they were shown ingredients and mixtures God was using to achieve Eternal results. The Darkness is an important ingredient which will yeild eternal results, but I don't think they complettely understood all of the ingredients, and many of them admitted it. God didnot need them to see through everything clearly, so  they wrote about the Eternity of the Darkness in terms of a result, not an ingredient.

The Black darkness was reserved forever in their understanding, but it is better understood as an ingredient that reserves forever. And I want to show that.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

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The Black darkness was reserved forever in their understanding, but it is better understood as an ingredient that reserves forever. And I want to show that.

Peace.
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Again Jesus in Matt. 6:23;" But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of Darkness. If therefore the Light that is in you is Darkness, how Great is the Darkness?" There are two ways to discern this. If  your understanding is considered by you to be a light, when really it is not, then your percieved revelation is not a source from God, but from the Darkness, but the Darkness is still from God! He is the Alpha of ALL things, including the Darkness of human minds. God is the giver of Light,  or understanding, if he gives you the Darkness, it is STILL a LIght from God! Everyone bound by the Darkness are still bound by the Light! There is therefore a Holy Relationship between the Light and the Darkness, or the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. A" Spiritual  Companionship" exist between the Light and the Darkness, and it really is great.

Paul spoke of how he tried to shake loose from this, but was not allowed too. Many humans will try to convince Christ that they were NOT effected by this, or somehow escaped the Darkness, and Christ says to that;" I never knew You!" Or he never knew ANY  human who could bypass a God ordained situation. The Darkness is a Law of God, and to think you have bypassed it is lawlesssness, or self righteousness.

As a human builds their resume to God, they will declare this and that, proclaim their righteousness, not knowing they have not submitted to the righteousness of God concerning the Darkness. Because we feel the need to convince God of our righteousness. This is really a lack of faith in God concerning your lack of  realizing how this Darkness really has a foothold into your reality. In Malachi 3:1, God can "clear things up", or effect the human mind to the degree that it clears things up to us. If God is using something in his creation process , then it exist to clear things up. That would be a natural result of Gods work, or him " Cooking, or Molding" his creations. Jesus in Mark 3:28;" All sins will be forgiven Men." This is Gods use of the Darkness, we hold no need to convince God of anything. We have a get out of jail free card in Christ. But Christ created the jail, and we MUST endure  our time within it.

Let me get into that some.  Peace.

[Mickiel]

If a person stood on the top of a hill and rolled a snowball, then the snowball gains momentum as it progresses down, ripping and tearing things up as it goes, then hits in a final display of destruction, the destruction must be blamed on the person who started this process, because it didnot begin on its own. Now what if the person who started this process, begins to judge people according to how they got in the path of this, and tried to manuver out of its way? What if there was no way around it? Why judge me according to how I deal with things you have started? This is no way to view what God has done, thats circumstancial judgement. God created the circumstances, why judge you according to them? No , the judgement of God is not circumstancial, its intentional. Just as the Darkness is intentional, it holds a direct purpose.

Nahum describes God as Jealous, wrathful and avenging, 1:2. Why should God get angry at the way a human has been affected by his intentional circumstances? If we fail to understand WHY the circumstances and obsticles, then we are sure to misunderstand how and why God Judges.

And I want to get into that.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Now I am sharing about understanding Gods Judgements, how and why they are formed, which may take some length, which I apologise for, but I think it will clear a lot of things up for you as the Spirit vists your understanding. First understand that your understanding is Circumstantial. Our Learning is Circumstantial. Which means it is derived from or based on things that are not absolute evidence. Our minds are based on conditions of the world of matter. We move and have our earthly being based on what we can see and experience, and our knowledge can be, and often is incidental. And much of the human knowledge of God has been based on this. So much of human understanding about God is really circumstantial evidence from which inferences can be made to try to prove that God exist, and we think in terms of these things as being facts.

Now, why would God Judge a world based on circumstantial evidence, when if punishing judgement was what he was after, that could be perfectly accomplished by direct detailed relevatory facts given to everyone in the world? Without his direct intervention into their minds, their still going to misunderstand the evidence. We cannot say that the world would respond to God if they knew the truth , or the facts. The Truth has already come and was killed by men on a Tree. So Gods true Judgement is NOT based on the response of humans, its just not! Most have not been clearly given the evidence, and most who have, still don't complettely understand the facts! So the Judgement of God is NOT based on the understanding of men, we wouldnot even understand his judgement.

And this is why people believe in eternal hell judgement, they don't know the judgements of God, ONLY because they do not know God himself. Only when God Circumstantiates our circumstances, will we have fullnesss of detail. Instead of circumstantiating them, God has Circumvented the human experience, which means to be maneuvered very craftly, or surround us with things that detour us and manipulate our experiences. And he is not judgeing us by our human response to those circumstances. He is " Depending on those circumstances to BE a part of his CREATING, not Judgement."

But you see we have blured these things together so much in our belief, we can't see any difference in Gods Judgement and his Creating. We tend to think God has created humanity, in order to judge them. So we look at what we think are the judgements of God, and we formulate from that , the reasons why he will judge. And our concepts , or the root of our reasonings are themselves then circumstantial, or incidental.

So let me get into Creation and Judgement, according to their real path, because the Judgement of God, LEAD to the creation of Man. Mans creation does not lead him into Gods Judgement.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Again Jesus in John 12:47;" I didNOT come to judge the world, but to SAVE the WORLD." It was Gods Judgement " To Send Jesus to save the World." Its a Judgement from God for the World to be saved. Salvation " Comes FROM a Judgement of God." God made a predestined judgement to save all of humanity, but we do not understand what Gods judgement is. We think Gods judges humans based on righteousness and unrighteousness, belief and unbelief. Notice Paul in Rom.3:6;" May it never be, for otherwise, how will God Judge the World?" Gods own faith in his judgements are NEVER considered by humans who look to understand him, we rather like to believe that his judgements are a reflection of his anger. Or rooted from his wrath. That is circumstantial belief, as well as uncircumcised understanding of how God judges.

Circumstantial understanding is really uncircumcised belief. A physical look at the judgements of God, is a look by the letter, but the letter is still looked at by the human heart, so we have " A bleeding uncircumcised Heart" , falling in Love with how it perceives God to Judge. Why would God Judge someone like that? Here the person loves him, but they are uncircumcised, or a creature of circumstances. They love him, but just don't know him. Why would he condemn them for Loving him but not knowing him. Well a lawyer for satan will ask God to convict them according to the Letter.

And the world thinks thats how God has judged this world, according to the Letter, or his Laws, or the scriptures. OR, Circumstantial Evidence.

By the evidence of Gods Judgements, are " His Faith", HIS Love, HIS Mercy, HIS longsuffering, these ARE the Evidence of Gods Judgements, his OWN reasons as to WHY he has judged. AND its WHY we were created.

And I want to touch on that some.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Now keep in mind what a Judgement is, and relate this to the creation of humanity. Concerning law, or circumstance, judgement is a setnence pronounced, a verdict that requires payment of that now pronounced debt incurred from the sentence, and this is mainly how Gods judgements are discerned. As if he is a bill collector in his stance toward his own laws. But consider judgement as the act of deciding or passing decision on something. Judgement from God is actually his good sense of wisely considering things, and THEN determining those things to be, AFTER he has judged already.

The finality of Gods judgement, is actually his already predetermined will, not his response to how we deal with circumstances. You have got to get this into your belief, you just have to. Because from that stance, you can view God in HIS predetermined circumstances, which actually make this world goes around.

And determines your circumstances in your belief.

Peace.

[anti_nietzsche]

Hi Mickiel,

how do you get ideas like us christians not having the Holy Spirit inside of us? The bible says that we have Him. Paul writes that God put the Holy Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee. He also writes to Timothy that he should fan into flame the gift of God through his (Paul's) laying on of hands.

I think God gives us Holy Spirit very liberally. It's the best gift He can give. Every christian has Him. No matter whether they (honestly, truthfully and not hypocritically) believe in ET or in UR (for which the same applies).

But it's easy to miss the Holy Spirit even when He is there. Having Holy Spirit and being with the Holy Spirit as a person in the Godhead is sometimes not the same. Sometimes the Holy Spirit shows us something, lets us experience Him, but sometimes we are busy with ourselves and ideas and other people and life that we miss out on the Holy Spirit even when we have Him.

You make a very good point in your last post though, that God does not simply react to what we do but that He is omniscient. When God interacts with us it's like a mountaintop speaks to an animal in a valley. God makes concessions all the time and does not wish to overburden us. That's why christianity in essence is very simple. Live with the Creator and trust Him and don't do evil stuff.

[Mickiel]

Hi Mickiel,

how do you get ideas like us christians not having the Holy Spirit inside of us? The bible says that we have Him. Paul writes that God put the Holy Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee. He also writes to Timothy that he should fan into flame the gift of God through his (Paul's) laying on of hands.

Well its no big deal, not to me now, its just something I believe. I think as high as 95% of the people who claim to have Gods Spirit, simply do not. And thats just the way I am seeing it. I don't think God has chosen the time to pour out his Spirit on individuals, or on a group, I think he is waiting to do that. This is what I am seeing in scripture, and its what I am being led to believe. And I may well be alone in this belief.

But its no big deal, just ignore it.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Hi Mickiel,

how do you get ideas like us christians not having the Holy Spirit inside of us? The bible says that we have Him. Paul writes that God put the Holy Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee. He also writes to Timothy that he should fan into flame the gift of God through his (Paul's) laying on of hands.

Well its no big deal, not to me now, its just something I believe. I think as high as 95% of the people who claim to have Gods Spirit, simply do not. And thats just the way I am seeing it. I don't think God has chosen the time to pour out his Spirit on individuals, or on a group, I think he is waiting to do that. This is what I am seeing in scripture, and its what I am being led to believe. And I may well be alone in this belief.

But its no big deal, just ignore it.

Peace.

Just let me make a short comment on this, because I believe I have been very wrong in the past to try to make an issue of it. Certain things should come into our belief, and we be comfortable with it. If God gives the belief, then he should give the comfort with it also. And then we can grow into the belief. If he does not give the comfort and assurance of it, were going to have a hard time growing into it. And thats just going to take time. Some things just can't be proven to ourselves outside of human comfort zones, but God is very able to manipulate those zones. Like Spiritual zip codes, he will get his message across to you. And may take his time to deliver it.

In my view, what the world needs now is Love, Joy, Peace, Goodness and gentleness, and it just does not have enough of this. These things are the evidence of Gods Spirit being present, and I just do not see them in people. And I don't see them in myself. I simply believe the reason I do not see them, is because they are not there. But its very easy to fabricate the reasons to believe they are, espically within yourself. Because we see small levels of them, we then attribute this to be Gods level of work. And that is astounding, for one to take such small levels, and call that a work of God.

I think the Holy Spirit is " Booming", bursting with Power, and its effects are not small minded or small levels. When a lamp is lighted in the darkness, its just going to stand out and dominate the darkness, it cannot be hiddened. This is what I expect from the giving of Gods Holy Spirit, nothingless than this. When God gets in you, even your opinions about things are just going to stand out and be noticed. And you will reflect all of the fruits of that experience.

Anyhow, I want to get back to Jude.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Something Jude states in vs. 24 is the most perplexing to me. " Now to him who is ABLE to keep you from stumbling." One climax of Gods Power is that if he wanted to, he could bring you to a point of never stumbling, or never sinning. Boy wouldn't that be something, for God to place you on a level that you would never even stumble, just walk upright like Job did. Job was so out of place in his time, that its just rediculus. He was perfect and upright, God had him where  he would never stumble. Now God could do this to anyone at any time, yet he does not, and men struggle to reach this on their own.

Now God is able to erase death, stop evil, give complette understanding, but he does not. So believers in turn try to understand this by interpiting that God is looking for us to do, what he is able to do for us. So religion has become a self improvement free will program, after all, if God does not perform, then hes looking for us to perform. And this is typical of our judgements , of Gods judgements.

Look at Romans 16:25;" Now unto him who is able to establish you." Establish means God can settle you by installing righteous behavior on a perminent basics. He could secure you with his Spirit and make you firm in his ways. Now God is most able to do this, and IF he did it, then the human would be JUST LIKE JOB was! But what people are trying to believe, is that God is now giving his Spirit, but not establishing it in a manner that would produce perfection. Because they are not perfect, they MUST water down the Power of the Spirit, by explaining their sin in another light. So that this light will allow THEM to believe they have Gods Spirit, but " Only just a little down payment of it." Oh man, thats just a weak way of trying to understand something that is VERY powerful. Now, because of YOUR claims and belief, YOUR sin, YOUR weakness, MUST be explained and compared to something that resembles the truth, a truth which will allow you to be what you claim you are.

And this reasoning has produced the most evasive deceptions that have ever existed.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Let me detour and share a personal observation. The single greatest problem that I think the called of God are experiencing, is premature election. They have climaxed too soon, because they can't handle even just the emotional content of being called. I admit that this bothers me somewhat, God has drilled this into me and I see it so much. He is able to do something about this, able to keep us from stumbling, but that IS NOT his will for now, just like I believe the giving of the Spirit is just not for now.

Let me ask you something. Why would God give you his Spirit, only to see you stumble and fall all the time? What do you think the Power of the Spirit does? You see we think the attainment of Knowledge is mostly what the Spirit does for us, and sin and weakness, well were just going to have that all the time. Thats so unture, so very untrue. When the Spirit " Comes", we are being built up, when it " Stays perminently", we are PERFECTED! And your life and mind will reflect that perfection. That perfection will be the Light of this world that cannot be hidden.

Oh I want so much to get into that, but I am learning to only go so far, and not cause offense.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

The people of God are growing in grace and Knowledge, and one demands the other. Your head is learning, but your going to need the grace because you are in preperation and your going to still rattle and reel from your lifes experiences. We are in the womb of growing in grace and knowledge, we are not yet born again. And this is how I see this, it explains everything, but many refuse this explination. Even the church is being " Established", it has not been born.

The reason why there is no one true church, is because it has NOT been born, it is still growing within its womb. YOU are still growing within a womb. You may like to believe there is a church now, that you have the Spirit now, and may well live within that illusion for years to come.

But when God establishes his church, when he really gives you his Spirit, its going to be like night and day, no more confusion. And I tell you, you just watch this in the years to come. When God gives these things, its going to be a mighty thing to behold, to be part of. These initial stages of preperation, will be NOTHING like the times of dispensation, its going to rock you, and rock this world!

God will be moving ready to end this thing, the age of man will be comming to and end. The way we disrespect his Spirit now, will then be known. And God will forgive, because thats just how he is.

Its going to be a frightening before and after. THEN you will compare yourselves amoungst yourselves, how you were when you thought you had Gods Spirit, as opposed to now that you have it. There will be no disrespect in this comparrison, you will KNOW the difference.

I am no Prophet, but if I were, this would be my prophecy.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

In Jude 20 he states that we should build ourselves up by Holy Faith, and to " Pray in the Spirit." What is praying in the Spirit? ( Eph.6:18)  I just know many will disagree with this, but there is no such thing as a human " Praying in the Spirit." In Fact we cannot pray in the Spirit. Not just yet. Praying in the Spirit is something that the " Spirit does FOR you." Romans 8:26;" And in the same way the Spirit helps our weaknesses, for we do not know( How to pray in the Spirit) to pray as we should, but the Spirit himself does the Praying.

Notice here that the Holy Spirit Prays! Do you know what this means, it means God has the Holy Spirit communicating constantly with him. Interceding and talking directly to God on our behalf. For example, I cannot pray " In the Spirit", so the Holy Spirit, which has more access to me now than God does, it knows me better. It will bring me up in its conversations with God, and explain me to God. It will tell God my needs, and God will approve or disaprove of them, and thats how this goes for us all.

So then praying in the Spirit is not what YOU are saying, its whats being said FOR YOU, by the Holy Spirit.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

In Jude 20 he states that we should build ourselves up by Holy Faith, and to " Pray in the Spirit." What is praying in the Spirit? ( Eph.6:18)  I just know many will disagree with this, but there is no such thing as a human " Praying in the Spirit." In Fact we cannot pray in the Spirit. Not just yet. Praying in the Spirit is something that the " Spirit does FOR you." Romans 8:26;" And in the same way the Spirit helps our weaknesses, for we do not know( How to pray in the Spirit) to pray as we should, but the Spirit himself does the Praying.

Notice here that the Holy Spirit Prays! Do you know what this means, it means God has the Holy Spirit communicating constantly with him. Interceding and talking directly to God on our behalf. For example, I cannot pray " In the Spirit", so the Holy Spirit, which has more access to me now than God does, it knows me better. It will bring me up in its conversations with God, and explain me to God. It will tell God my needs, and God will approve or disaprove of them, and thats how this goes for us all.

So then praying in the Spirit is not what YOU are saying, its whats being said FOR YOU, by the Holy Spirit.

Peace.

And this is a VITAL key in understanding God. God is really constantly communicating with the Holy Spirit, THAT is the key to whats really going on as of now. And listen, satan and demons have absolutely no access to these communications, they are Holy and private. This is the key to humanitys salvation, its how this thing is being accomplished. This is the real mapping of Salvation, its the plan in action. Its the conference table of human history, and its the discussions that breed the switch from being called by God, to being chosen by God. THIS is how God chooses who will be chosen.

Its how Spiritual gifts are given and dispenced, its how punishments are distrubited, its how revelations are given. The Holy Spirit does not debate God, it advises God, gives its imput and God makes the final decision. When the human is given the Holy Spirit directly, to constantly dwell inside of him or her, this changes things dramatcially. And I want to go into this, and show you what you are claiming when you suggest to yourself that you are in this mix.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

So many of us believe we are talking directly to God, and we will accept nothingless than this to be true, but I don't think its true at all. We think we know how to talk to God, and such is a prideful part of human gall. I already know I do not know how to talk to God, and the pressure has been taken away from me to even try, because I believe the Holy Spirit has me covered in that area. Once you have reached a point in understanding this, then your prayers hold no pressure, no failures, no shame, no need to try to generate something, as if your voice can do that anyway.

We don't even know how to talk to each other, but we think we know how to talk with God.

The Holy Spirit took the pressure off of my prayers, by showing me that it will communicate with God on my behalf, because I asked it why I cannot pray as I thought I should. I was worried about this so much. Then I realized that all the times I was not praying, I had the Spirit praying for me, and life goes on. And this is a GREAT advantage that we have, because the Holy Spirit will generally speak to God about humanity as a whole, but for it to bring you up in specifics to God, is a great honor. And its going to cover everything, in a manner that just is not possible for you to do.

Romans 8:27;" And he who searches the hearts knows what the " Mind of the Spirit is.", Because the Spirit is communcating for the Saints." From this we can KNOW that the Holy Spirit "Has a Mind." It thinks and examines, it is intelligent and reason, it has individuality and purpose. It records and builds information that God examines and discerns.

Now, when God gives a human his Holy Spirit, the human then will have ALL the abilitys of the Holy Spirit. To think and examine, to record and reason the things of God. AND speak directly with God.

And this is a very grave thing, because once you speak directly with God, oh  what that will breed into your reality.

And I don't think humans are now being breeded into this, and I want to explain why.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

So here we have a particular group, or groups of people who are claiming they have Gods Spirit, that they are talking to God, and he is talking to them. They then share things to others, and this is the root of so many mixed signals being imparted into this world. These people debate with each other, and have the gall to believe that this is evidence of God in them. As if God wants the confusion, sanctions it. The Spirit of God does not breed confusion and debate, its just the oppisite, it breeds unity and cohesion, it settles matters, it does not cause matters of confusion.

Now Look at Romans 8:10;" Now IF Christ is IN you, your body is dead, dead because of sin, but the Spirit is alive because of Righteousness." Here God looks to kill the body, which is to bring you to not master your flesh, why look to master what is being killed? Why try to compette with death? Let it die, accept it is gone. There is nothing to debate, all evidence is being destroyed. A whole new life is being created, and this is what the giving of the Holy Spirit would be like. Gods righteousness has now TAKEN control.

And there WILL be evidence of this, BECAUSE of God.

And I want to continue on with that.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Now I am of the view that Gods Holy Spirit, given in the last days, DEMANDS that a whole group of Jobs be created! Yes, I said that, a whole group of perfect people be manufactored. Why uhser in a Kingdom, based on imperfect people? What kind of end time example is that?

Here we have God bringing things in human history to their climax, why use a group of called out people, switched to chosen, being powerfully annointed, and yet they are full of sin? And you see, we have reached that climax on our own, we think now we are perfected, which we are not, now we feel we have this annointing. And because of this, we must explain our sin and weaknesses, thus we pervert Gods calling, by trying to compensate for why we still sin. And we use scriptures to try to explain this.

So we invent the Kingdom being now within, but without the perfection it demands to be breeded.

Kings before our time.

So the advent of the Kingdom, will actually be the dismantling of pride in these Kings. God is not building an Adams family, hes building perfection.

And I want to touch on that.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Now 1 John 4:13;" By this we know that we abide IN him and he IN us, because he has given us OF his Spirit." Can you see what OF means there. It means given us USE OF his Spirit. Don't you think God can perfect his Love in a human and cause that human to be perfect in the flesh? What makes you think that you have Gods Spirit, but yet you are not perfect? You are not living during Pauls time, your living in the end times. Why should an end time annointed person of God, be expected to live in unperfection in this corrupt world? Explain that to me.

You claim to have Gods Spirit, that claim demands that you explain your unperfection, so you search for support of that unperfection in scripture, as if you are not discerning the times your in. Is God then ignorant of the times and our NEED for the perfection?

Our explinations must then be accepted by ourselves AND this world.

And I want to get into how we cleverly try to accomplish this. AND what God is going to do about it.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Your belief in Universalism must Overcome this world, not your belief in yourself. You have to have Faith, NOT in yourself having Gods Spirit, thats not what overcomming is. Look at 1 John 5: 4;" For whoever is Born of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that has overcome the world, our faith." What, faith in ourselves as having been born again? You think self faith is what overcame this world? You think your claim of being annointed has overcome this world? Thats not the Faith. Our assurance of the MESSAGE IS the Faith, not our assurance of ourselves.

So then we spend time explaining how we got converted, how we had our moment of truth, and expect that to be a witness of the truth. The messenger has evolved beyond the message and become a King before their time. Your faith is really in yourself. And this is why you experience pacification in your prayers. Your talking to yourself, thinking your talking to God. Your talking to others, thinking your talking for God. Your depending on your faith, and not this message. Your prayers are pivited on yourself, and thats why they get nowhere. Then you seek to explain why this is no place to be somebody in the Lord.

No place to be somebody called. And I want to go into no place to be somebody.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

This world is no place to be somebody, and yet the personality of man looks to assert itself as being somebody, the highest form of that is to claim having Gods Spirit. Which of course is elite, Spiritual, having a form of Godliness. And these seek to announce the gospel message, as if God inspires as such. Jude suggest that we build ourselves up, and I suggest that the common belief in God, is rooted from people building themselves up in Gods word. Sprayed with themselves, they are really rooted in self interpitation, which is a form of Godliness, because God MUST deal with the self in humanity. Humans then feel the impression of the bible, because it has made its impression, and we go from there. We take off, headed in the direction of our own interpitation, we then are the alpha and omega, it looks like spirituality because we are fascinated with ourselves.

You fill a planet with these kind of people, and its no place to be somebody.

You fill a church with this, and its no place to be somebody.

You fill a mind with this and it becomes a place of its own. It looks to fill itself with priviledge and ultimately claim God is in them. It was to this approach that the 7 letters in Revelation was written.

Christ is, and is to come. But Christ was once dead. He actually died. While he was dead, much was planted by the world of evil. During that time of Christ death, an advantage was taken by satan, a chance to plant " Other things in humanity", and plant them into believers, his first concern.

The Born again mentality is taken advantage of and believers are too beefed up to listen.

They have Faith, but the faith is in themselves. This falls into such predictable evil hands, which masquerade as the hand of God.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Christ is, and is to come. But Christ was once dead. He actually died. While he was dead, much was planted by the world of evil. During that time of Christ death, an advantage was taken by satan, a chance to plant " Other things in humanity", and plant them into believers, his first concern.



Notice again Jesus in John 19:11;" Jesus answered. You would have no Authority over me, unless it had been given you from above." This is the root reason why the true gospel  of Universal Reconciliation holds no Universal Power in human belief, because false Gospels have been given authority over it by God himself. Christ message holds no universal appeal, because God didnot grant that. Jesus is not believed to be the Savior of all, because God has not authorized this to be so as of this time. This is why such an overpowering truth, has been overpowered itself by lesser powerful interpitations. Its why the concept of eternal hell has overpowered the concept of eternal life for all. When ignorance overshadows revelation, and the weaker thoughts dominate the stronger thoughts, then God has granted authority to them.

Or Christ has died, and birth was given to other concepts of his death. Its like the stronger giving place to the weaker, and in this the first shall be the last, and the last shall be first. Or the dominant truth, is recended, moved to the rear, and the weaker concepts are given authority. Jesus, the most powerful human on earth, was killed by the lesser humans on earth. And this is what happened to the Gospel, it was allowed to die, and God will ressurect it in his time. Jesus was allowed to plant the Truth, start a church, but the truth and the church had to die as well. I disagree with the teachings that a church of God has always been on this planet, continued like  a bloodline from generation to generation. I believe the truth, the church, both have experienced exactly what Christ has, a death, and a ressurection.

Jesus was active while he was dead, in one sense, and so it has been with the truth and the church. They have been dead too, but things were still being done actively during their death, because God is the power behind both death and life, he can still actively deal with dead things. And I think this is misunderstood, and why many Spiritually dead people think they are Spiritually alive, because they sense God is working with them, which he may well be, but they misunderstand that he works with the dead also. You don't have to be Spiritualy or physically alive in order for God to actively work on you.

This world is Spiritually dead, yet God is actively working on it. But because God is working on it, the world may think it is alive Spiritually. Conversely , Spiritually dead people may believe they are born again because God is working on them. In their minds they are Spiritually Somebody. When the human mind and belief presupposses that it is something that it is not, the place their belief is  in, is no place to be somebody.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Misunderstanding death, is really misunderstanding Gods purpose for it. So we look to not die, or to believe we can avoid it. So we cling to Life, hope for it, and hope to not die. Again Jesus in John 12:27;" My soul has becomed troubled, and what shall I say ( To God), " Father save me from this hour? But for this purpose I came to this Hour." And this is the mentality that many hold in their belief that the truth has never experienced death on this earth, they look to preserve what God has decreed to die. Going beyond, they look to claim that they are now born again, now Spiritually alive, while God wants them dead Spiritually. They do not believe he can work with their death. And this cripples their belief so much. It really limits God. They think they have to be elevated in order for God to be actively involved with them. They sense him working, but feel the need to elevate themselves to a position that THEY think is compatible with Gods involvement. They think;" Well God is working, so I must be alive." I must have his Spirit, I must not be dead.

But for this purpose we were called, to die. And the church was called for that same purpose, to die and experience death. Then be ressurected, and THEN be given much more Power than before. The true power, comes AFTER the ressurection, after the death. Christ power is the ressurection. Our power is no different, it will come ONLY after the death of things within. But the death MUST occur! If you look to bypass the death, you cripple yourself.

What shall we say to God? Father save me from this death? This period of no conscious Spiritual understanding? Move me from the period of death, spare me from my own ignorance?

For this period we were made, for this purpose we were born.

And I want to touch on that.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Did you know that the pride of Life, is also a Lust for Life? The pride of your calling is also a Lust for the calling. Do you know what you are lusting for? You desire this calling from God, did you know that you must die first? Before the new birth, comes death. You think you can skip the death, or manufactor your own death, your own period of sleep, or  lack of understanding? Being a King before your time, means you have manufactored your own death, or created your own cross.  Thus you create your own rebirth and now your born again in your eyes.

Again Jesus in Luke 22:42, " Father if thou art willing, remove this cup from me, yet not my will by thine be done." The Pride of Life, versus the humility of going along with Gods plan. Jesus wanted to Live, but he wanted the Truth of God much more. Human believers want to live, want to be Gods annointed so bad, want his Spirit so bad, but cannot see their death being first on Gods list. We don't want to go underground, we don't want to be seen as dead, espically  to ourselves. In Jude 18;" In the last time there shall be Mockers, following after their own ungodly lust." No believer thinks this warning is meant for them, they automatically attribute it to be for unbelievers. They cannot see that it means one can lust  for and mock Gods Spirit, claiming they have it but really do not. Vs. 19;" THESE are the ones who CAUSE divisions, worldly minded, DEVOID of the Spirit."

THATS the problem, DEVOID of the Spirit! Thats WHY you see divisions caused, because the Spirit is NOT there, but believed to be. And its why people believe they are right. And its why their rightness causes troubles.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

One of the obvious problems the Prophets of God and teachers of God had with people, is that they often wanted to exhort the people and speak words of light, but they constantly had to correct the people and deal with their distortions. And this is the true process of regeneration, you deal with what is dead first, only then can new life bud  out. The flesh is death, designed to die. You wonder what death is, the first or the second death, well humans are death. We are the walking dead, destined to die. Death was created when humans were, its intertwined destiny. The first death is your body of flesh, the second death is the destruction of your flesh. Eternal life is the removal of death, or your flesh.

And many cannot see the sheer gall of claiming the new birth while still in the flesh. Its because the word of God crisscrosses so much, phases in and out of subjects, and needs to be Spiritually discerned. We physically discern it on our own, and make assumptions on our own. And because we have made those assumptions for long years, we just think we have cornered the market of the truth.

So someone comes along and speaks the truth, and its not reconized.

And there you have the life of a prophet, or a teacher of God, wanting to exhort and shed some truth, but always confronted with the distortions of the people. And constantly having to deal with that. So Jude says in 20, " Build yourselves up by your own faith", because he knew, like all of Gods Prophets knew, he had to deal with their problems. So let them build themselves up, since he couldnot do it.

Peace.