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April 22, 2020, 04:02:00 PM Last Edit: April 22, 2020, 04:36:23 PM by marie glen
A phrase in Philippians 3:19 is sometimes translated like this – "They are going to end up in hell.."

To see the literal word for word – https://biblehub.com/interlinear/philippians/3-19.htm – See words #5056 and #684.

Alternate translation – "whose end (TOLL) is destruction/ruin (NOT hell)..."

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Lazarus Short

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April 23, 2020, 04:42:12 PM
That "end" is their end in this life, otherwise it must be believed that there is destruction and ruin in YHWH's eternal Kingdom.  Negative things will surely be defeated and put under the feet of Yashua - and notice how that is handled almost gently.  Those whose end had been destruction/ruin will be saved "as through fire," something that is become more and more clear to me.
Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

YHVH = Behold the Nail, Behold the Hand = Jesus

WhiteWings

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April 23, 2020, 11:50:25 PM
Mat 16:18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

Read and reread.
Christ's church obviously is not locked up in hell.
Still they are breaking down the gates of hell. That means the saints enter hell. I think that gives a different look on the verse.
Are they there just for the scenery?

For a little more depth read this translation and above all click on [...].
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+16%3A18&version=TPT

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GodIsLove

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April 25, 2020, 03:43:13 AM
Quote from: WhiteWings on April 23, 2020, 11:50:25 PM
Mat 16:18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

Read and reread.
Christ's church obviously is not locked up in hell.
Still they are breaking down the gates of hell. That means the saints enter hell. I think that gives a different look on the verse.
Are they there just for the scenery?

For a little more depth read this translation and above all click on [...].
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+16%3A18&version=TPT

Woah.

I never thought of it that way!
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