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Apologetics - Universal Reconciliation => Word Studies => Topic started by: marie glen on April 22, 2020, 04:02:00 PM

Title: NOT ‘hell’
Post by: marie glen on April 22, 2020, 04:02:00 PM
A phrase in Philippians 3:19 is sometimes translated like this – "They are going to end up in hell.."

To see the literal word for word – https://biblehub.com/interlinear/philippians/3-19.htm – See words #5056 and #684.

Alternate translation – "whose end (TOLL) is destruction/ruin (NOT hell)..."

( https://innermonastery.wordpress.com/2020/04/22/not-hell/ )
Title: Re: NOT ‘hell’
Post by: Lazarus Short on April 23, 2020, 04:42:12 PM
That "end" is their end in this life, otherwise it must be believed that there is destruction and ruin in YHWH's eternal Kingdom.  Negative things will surely be defeated and put under the feet of Yashua - and notice how that is handled almost gently.  Those whose end had been destruction/ruin will be saved "as through fire," something that is become more and more clear to me.
Title: Re: NOT ‘hell’
Post by: WhiteWings on April 23, 2020, 11:50:25 PM
Mat 16:18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

Read and reread.
Christ's church obviously is not locked up in hell.
Still they are breaking down the gates of hell. That means the saints enter hell. I think that gives a different look on the verse.
Are they there just for the scenery?

For a little more depth read this translation and above all click on [...].
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+16%3A18&version=TPT

Title: Re: NOT ‘hell’
Post by: GodIsLove on April 25, 2020, 03:43:13 AM
Quote from: WhiteWings on April 23, 2020, 11:50:25 PM
Mat 16:18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

Read and reread.
Christ's church obviously is not locked up in hell.
Still they are breaking down the gates of hell. That means the saints enter hell. I think that gives a different look on the verse.
Are they there just for the scenery?

For a little more depth read this translation and above all click on [...].
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+16%3A18&version=TPT

Woah.

I never thought of it that way!