Gehenna and Sheol in the Aramaic NT

[marie glen]

I think the Apocrypha is very good for history / the history gap between the Old and New Testaments.. but I find the bible of 66 books to be complete when it comes to the revealing of God's will/intent/as to what it is He is doing and how He "is the savior of all"..

Just chiming in my :2c: :gsmile:

Ah, but as Rob Bell asks, 'Does God always get what he wants?'  I bet God is so brilliant that he can give angels and humans free will, and still get what he ultimately wants.[/font][/size]

Agreed !...of course He does !...Romans 5 tells us God WILL ultimately save ALL.

Amen! :thumbsup: :cloud9:

...Though not exactly 'free' will of course, as there's so many influences, limits, etc.. Plus as we know, it is God's choice as to when all come to the faith.. during this lifetime, or sometime after.. (I really think there's only one verse could be assumed to mean after death no hope - when Jesus tells the pharisees unless they repent they will die in their sins.. But all this means (to me) is they would rise still in their sins.. To say that is a forever state, imo, is to run with the verse.. (to add to it; kind of like changing all the aions, aionians, etc, to "forever".)

[DavidFord]

the problem i find with that is if you can't prove anything from the Bible, what's the point of the Bible?

'Proof' is in the eye of the beholder.  Some think the Bible proves that Satan and evil spirits exists, while others don't think that.  Some think the Bible proves Adam and Eve lived, while others disagree.

[CST]

the problem i find with that is if you can't prove anything from the Bible, what's the point of the Bible?

'Proof' is in the eye of the beholder.  Some think the Bible proves that Satan and evil spirits exists, while others don't think that.  Some think the Bible proves Adam and Eve lived, while others disagree.

Yes, but people's refusal to accept proof doesn't automatically invalidate the proof. it's posible to draw the wronf conclusions from the Bible but that may not be because the proof isn't there just that you haven't focused your attention on the right things.

To help discuss this I'm going to dig up your arguments for how the Bible defines gender.

The characteristics of the male gender.... So then what are the characteristics of the female gender?

https://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Topical.show/RTD/cgg/ID/2311/Feminine-Characteristics-God.htm
We see ample and abundant masculine traits in the Bible: strength, power, decisiveness, aggressiveness, provider, ruler, and leader. Feminine traits are also abundant: beauty, grace, mercy, tenderness, caring, and affectionate.

Mt 23 (based on Younan), http://dukhrana.com
36. Amain I say to you that all these things will come upon this generation.
37. Urishlim! Urishlim!
Murderess of the nabia [prophets]
and stoner of those that are sent to her!
How often I have desired to gather your children
like a hen gathers her chicks under her wings,
and (you) did not desire (it)!
38. Behold, your house is left to you desolate.

Lk 23
27. And a multitude of people was coming after him, and women who were wailing and mourning for him. 28. And Yeshua turned and said to them,
"Daughters of Urishlim,
do not cry for me,
but cry for yourselves
and for your children.
29. For behold the days are coming in which they will say,
Blessed are the barren
and the wombs that have not given birth
and the breasts that have not nursed.'
30. Then you will begin to say to the mountains,
Fall upon us!'
and to the heights,
Cover us!'
31. For if to the green wood they do these things,
what will happen to the dry?"

The Feminine Imagery of God in the Hebrew Bible
https://www.cbeinternational.org/resources/article/priscilla-papers/feminine-imagery-god-hebrew-bible
The Hebrews emphasized the ruach Elohim, identified with the mother eagle of Deuteronomy 32:11. Then even later in the Wisdom literature, including Proverbs and the apocryphal books of Wisdom and Sirach, this holy spirit of God was identified with Lady Wisdom (Prov. 1:20-22; 8:1-9:6; Wis. 1:6-7, 6:22-25).
In summary, in the first two verses of Genesis there is a parallel construction between the masculine and feminine. In the first verse, God, Elohim, creates the heavens and the earth. The noun is masculine and the verb ending is masculine. In the second verse, the ruach Elohim m'reche-phet, the spirit of God hovers. The noun, spirit or breath or wind, is feminine, and the verb ending is feminine. This ruach Elohim (Gen. 1:2) is identified with the mother eagle of Deuteronomy 32:11. Male and female are in the image and likeness of God (Gen. 1:26-27). Wisdom is identified as She in the Protestant Book of Proverbs (8:24). The Holy Spirit is identified with the feminine spirit of Wisdom in the Catholic Apocrypha.
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I am now aware that there are many passages concerning God in the Hebrew describing God in maternal and feminine metaphor, including Deuteronomy 32:18b, where God groans and gives birth in an image of a woman in labor. My foundational concept of the feminine in God is in Genesis in the introduction, where God is described with both masculine and feminine nouns and verbs, as Elohim and ruach Elohim. I now have this awesome certitude that, as a woman, I have been defined in the Hebrew Scripture as made in the image and likeness of God.

Let's take the first 'masculine quality you identify, 'strength'. Is this physical strength you mean here or strength of character? If the former then that is generally a quality of biological sex not gender. Male physiology tend that they will tend, on balance, to eventually develop to be stronger than women but there's a caveat here which I hope to get to presently.

So what about strength of character? I an think of numerous biblical women who appear to show this trait, although sometimes it diminishes as it does in male characters, but mary would seen to have this trait as would Miriam and Deborah. Also numerous women show signs of high physical strength so that doesn't work either.

The major caveat of this point is that it appears to be a major spiritual truth that strength, physical or otherwise grows and develops the more you use it and diminishes the less you use it. This is true for both men and women and pulls the rug from the concept strength is a male characteristic.

So what out your first female characteristic: 'beauty'? Again do you here mean physical beauty or inner beauty? If you mean physical beauty then are all men ugly? Are all women who lack or lose beauty to suddenly be considered men?

And as for inner beauty so man people, both men and women, in the Bible lack this characteristic which of course seems to rule out using inner beauty to define gender.

The second masculine characteristic you name is 'power'. How does that differ from strength here? Power, as I understand, is not something you have as a characteristic but something you attain and attempt to retain. The 'female characteristic of 'grace' (which obviously is not to be confused with grace from God) is similarly subjective. And the Bible is full of powerless men and graceless women and let you say this is a trait of gender based character.

The third male trait you name 'decisiveness' is a trait many men have quite evidently lacked. The male character of Hamlet famously lacks this characteristic, while there are Biblical women both god and evil that display it strongly.

And then you say, 'mercy' is a female characteristic. Oh, that's bold. That's very bold given that the Bible has always presented God, the most merciful being of them all, as primarily male.

That's just the first three characteristics from each set. They all contain these or similar problems. Clearly you have successfully demonstrated how hard gender is to define.

[MusicLover123]

On gender, how about this:

It all comes from God. Whatever trait it is, it is a reflection of Christ, no matter which gender it is. This will become more apparent when everyone is perfected.

[GodIsLove]

On gender, how about this:

It all comes from God. Whatever trait it is, it is a reflection of Christ, no matter which gender it is. This will become more apparent when everyone is perfected.

Yeah this is what I was going for when I quoted genesis several posts ago.

God created man and woman in his image.

Both are created in the image of God, man and woman share many traits just in different balance.

Edit: I said man and woman share many traits but I am now thinking this: man and woman share ALL traits just in different balance.

Think of any human trait and try to find one that *only* is characteristic of male or female. Men and women balance each other out but they are not total oppsites in that one has some trait and the other either lacks the trait or has an opposing trait.

But...
Can someone let me know in simple terms what exactly this gender debate is about? I'm sorta fuzzy about where it's going or what the purpose is behind this branching off of the conversation.

[MusicLover123]

Can someone let me know in simple terms what exactly this gender debate is about? I'm sorta fuzzy about where it's going or what the purpose is behind this branching off of the conversation.

Yeah, I don't even know why it got on this topic, or why it is a debate. Just one of those tangents, you know...

I am guessing it is an argument on if any traits can be specifically "female" or specifically "male."

[CST]

On gender, how about this:

It all comes from God. Whatever trait it is, it is a reflection of Christ, no matter which gender it is. This will become more apparent when everyone is perfected.

Yeah this is what I was going for when I quoted genesis several posts ago.

God created man and woman in his image.

Both are created in the image of God, man and woman share many traits just in different balance.

Edit: I said man and woman share many traits but I am now thinking this: man and woman share ALL traits just in different balance.

Think of any human trait and try to find one that *only* is characteristic of male or female. Men and women balance each other out but they are not total oppsites in that one has some trait and the other either lacks the trait or has an opposing trait.

But...
Can someone let me know in simple terms what exactly this gender debate is about? I'm sorta fuzzy about where it's going or what the purpose is behind this branching off of the conversation.

I was making one of my arguments into demonstrating your claim that God fills all things.

Essentially what you just said here:

man and woman share ALL traits just in different balance.

Was what i concluded but that leads to the question of what that balance is 'meant' to be and that's what leads into this discussion. At which point everything becomes tricky.

As I recall when I first considered this it started to become circular and very difficult indeed but I seem to have forgotten a part of my reasoning at present.

[marie glen]

the problem i find with that is if you can't prove anything from the Bible, what's the point of the Bible?

'Proof' is in the eye of the beholder.  Some think the Bible proves that Satan and evil spirits exists, while others don't think that.  Some think the Bible proves Adam and Eve lived, while others disagree.

Oh yah.. everything as metaphor really bugs me! Sure there's metaphor.. But I think saying everything is metaphor is to both contradict God's Word - I mean He didn't say "in the beginning it was sort of like" -

And is to take away and add to God's Word. I think when it is metaphor, it's rather obvious.. Can God make the sun stand still? Can He make the sun reverse direction for one day? Can a maiden (unmarried, virgin woman) conceive? If God puts the seed in her, yes.

"With God nothing is impossible" including saving all.. and creating a massive universe in six days.. or in a moment, if He so wanted.. Can tame lions in the lion's den.. can keep Daniel safe in a fiery furnace.. Jesus literally healed.. If we begin to metaphor everything, where does it start and stop? Is the resurrection metaphor? Salvation? Too much metaphor to me, is a glorifying of self.. See what great ideas we have? No see how great God's expressed and written will is..

We are a temple of God.. sort of metaphor.. but truth.
The adversary as a roaring lion.. the lion is metaphor.. but being like a lion seeking someone to devour - I consider to be truth.

The Tent of Meeting and Temple.. a lot of metaphor, but also were very literal.

Gehenna as fiery judgment, metaphor, but also a literal valley (where Armageddon will occur).

Babylon, mankind's Great Harlot(Greek pornos) City ($ity?/angel of light? different empires through the ages?) portrayed in much metaphor.. but I'm sure, quite literal., including its products right down to the bodies and souls of people.. ("woe, woe, woe")

The Bible is a Great story and account. And "Truth".

Imo :gsmile:

[MusicLover123]

I do see what you see, and have to agree with you. But, might want to discuss what Jesus means here, what exactly "words are Spirit" means?

John 6
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Matthew 13
34All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them

John 10
6This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.

Since the Word is speaking, and all of Scripture is the Word of God, I see this as applying to all of Scripture, and we can only know the true meaning  by His Spirit.

[marie glen]

Amen! But it is also true, that if we seek we shall find.. If we knock He will open.. If we know how to give good gifts to our children, won't He give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him? He reveals truth, His Word. So we ask Him what it means. And He teaches us to listen.. Those who have ears, let them hear..

(that verse sometimes brings to my mind an image of a person with ears of corn sticking out of their ears.. :laughing7: )

[CST]

OK, try this rather challenging (particularly if taken entirely literally) passage:

'Now when the Pharisees gathered together to him, with some of the scribes, who had come from Jerusalem, they saw that some of his disciples ate with hands defiled, that is, unwashed. And the Pharisees and the scribes asked him, "Why do your disciples not live according to the tradition of the elders, but eat with hands defiled?"'

'And he said to them, "Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, 'This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.' You leave the commandment of God, and hold fast the tradition of men."'

'And he called the people to him again, and said to them, "Hear me, all of you, and understand: there is nothing outside a man which by going into him can defile him; but the things which come out of a man are what defile him." And when he had entered the house, and left the people, his disciples asked him about the parable. And he said to them, "Then are you also without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a man from outside cannot defile him, since it enters, not his heart but his stomach, and so passes on?" (Thus he declared all foods clean.)' (Mark 7:1,2, 6-8, 14,15, 17-19)

Apart from the fact the explanation of the parable doesn't sound that different from the parable. Jesus is upbraiding the Pharisees on particular aspects of their behaviour, like putting certain, rather unqualified rules over proper moral conduct. Given that it seem a bit strained that Mark puts in a footnote saying that Jesus declared all foods clean when the topic of the discussion was how to eat not what to eat, but it made the Bible so it must be true.

But there's a catch, I knew if I touch something filthy and then immediately go off and eat with my hands, there's a good chance I'll get sick. So on balance what Jesus says is actually wrong and what the Pharisees advocate is actually correct, lucky, lucky Pharisees because they're not actually advocating it for its health benefit but to control people which is why Jesus attacks it. Jesus is wrong but only because I know something that is beyond the scope of the discussion that was going on at the time. Obviously, Jesus isn't actually wrong and His criticism of the Pharisees is of course correct even though we now know His facts aren't.

I have this trouble with the Bible sometimes, when struggle to even agree with Jesus and have to remember not to take what He said beyond what He actually meant, which might be less than the absolutely literal meaning, literal and allegorical are not the only two choices we have and you have to take a lot more care than that.

[DavidFord]

And he said to them, "Then are you also without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a man from outside cannot defile him, since it enters, not his heart but his stomach, and so passes on?" (Thus he declared all foods clean.)' (Mark 7:1,2, 6-8, 14,15, 17-19)
Apart from the fact the explanation of the parable doesn't sound that different from the parable. Jesus is upbraiding the Pharisees on particular aspects of their behaviour, like putting certain, rather unqualified rules over proper moral conduct. Given that it seem a bit strained that Mark puts in a footnote saying that Jesus declared all foods clean when the topic of the discussion was how to eat not what to eat, but it made the Bible so it must be true.

"it seem a bit strained that Mark puts in a footnote saying that Jesus declared all foods clean when the topic of the discussion was how to eat not what to eat, but it made the Bible"
Do you think that declaration was there in the original rendition of Mk 7:19?

Mark 7:19-20 (NABRE)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%207%3A19-20&version=KJV;NASB;NABRE
19 since it enters not the heart but the stomach and passes out into the latrine?" (Thus he declared all foods clean.) 20 "But what comes out of a person, that is what defiles.
Footnotes:
7:19 (Thus he declared all foods clean): if this bold declaration goes back to Jesus, its force was not realized among Jewish Christians in the early church; cf. Acts 10:1–11:18.

Strong's Concordance 2511. katharizó
https://biblehub.com/greek/2511.htm
katharizó: to cleanse
Original Word: καθαρίζω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: katharizó
Phonetic Spelling: (kath-ar-id'-zo)
Short Definition: I make clean
Definition: I cleanse, make clean, literally, ceremonially, or spiritually, according to context.

Mark 7:19 (from Aramaic), http://dukhrana.com
(Etheridge) because it entereth not into his heart, but into his belly,
and is cast out in the purgation which all food purgeth ?
(Murdock) For it doth not enter into his heart, but into his belly,
and is thrown into the digestive process, which carries off all that is eaten.
Mark 7:20
(Etheridge) But that which proceedeth from a man, that polluteth a man.

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
https://biblehub.com/commentaries/mark/7-19.htm
Purging all meats.—This also is peculiar to St. Mark, and presents some difficulties. In the commonly received text, the participle is in the neuter nominative, agreeing with the nominative to the verb "goeth out." But in this construction it is difficult to see in what sense that which goeth into the mouth—itself an article of food, with no special character—can be said to purge or cleanse all other forms of food. The better MSS., however, give the participle in the masculine. This has been explained by many as a grammatical anomaly, and the participle being treated as if it agreed (though in a different case) with the word "draught" or "cesspool," the latter is said to cleanse all meats, as removing the excreta, or impure parts, from them, and leaving only that which nourishes the body. A far better construction, both as to grammar and meaning, is found by making the word "purging," or better, cleansing, agree with the subject of the verb "He saith," in Mark 7:18—"He saith this . . . and in so saying, cleanseth all meats." So taken, the words anticipate, in almost the same terms, the truth of Acts 10:15, "What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common." The construction is tenable grammatically, has the support of high authority both ancient and modern, and obviously gives a much better sense. It is a possible conjecture that the words "cleansing all meats" may have been, at first, a marginal note (like the addition in Mark 7:16), attached to "He saith," and have afterwards found their way into the text.

Expositor's Greek Testament
https://biblehub.com/commentaries/mark/7-19.htm
καθαρίζων (not -ον) is accepted generally as the true reading, but how is it to be construed? as the nominative absolute referring to ἀφεδρῶνα, giving the sense: evacuation purges the body from all matter it cannot assimilate? So most recent commentators. Or ought we not to terminate the words of Jesus at ἐκπορεύεται with a mark of interrogation, and take what follows as a comment of the evangelist? = ἐκπορεύεται;—καθαρίζων, etc.: this He said, purging all meats; making all meats clean, abolishing the ceremonial distinctions of the Levitical law.

[DavidFord]

Col 3:6-7 Semiticisms: the sons of disobedience = the disobedient; walked = conducted moral/ethical life

Did Col 3:6-7 originally say that some once walked in the sons of disobedience?

Colossians 3:6-7 (DLNT)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Col+3%3A6-7&version=DLNT
6 because of which _things_ the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience,
7 in which^b _things_ you also formerly walked when you were living in these _things_.
b:  Or, among whom you.

Colossians 3:6-7
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/colossians/3-6.htm
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/colossians/3-7.htm
because of which things is coming the wrath of God on the sons of disobedience
in which also you walked once when you were living in them

Strong's Concordance 4043. peripateó
https://biblehub.com/greek/4043.htm
peripateó: to walk
Original Word: περιπατέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: peripateó
Phonetic Spelling: (per-ee-pat-eh'-o)
Short Definition: I walk, conduct my life
Definition: I walk, hence Hebraistically (in an ethical sense): I conduct my life, live.
HELPS Word-studies
4043 peripatéō (from 4012 /perí, "comprehensively around," which intensifies 3961 /patéō, "walk") – properly, walk around, i.e. in a complete circuit

https://biblehub.com/greek/periepate_sate_4043.htm
περιεπατήσατε (periepatēsate) — 2 Occurrences
Ephesians 2:2 V-AIA-2P
GRK: αἷς ποτὲ περιεπατήσατε κατὰ τὸν
NAS: you formerly walked according
KJV: in time past ye walked according to....
Colossians 3:7 V-AIA-2P
GRK: καὶ ὑμεῖς περιεπατήσατέ ποτε ὅτε
NAS: once walked, when
KJV: ye also walked some time, when

[DavidFord]

2Cor 4:9:  Semitic parallelism poetry, alliteration and rhyming

2Cor 4:8 (from Aramaic), http://dukhrana.com
(Etheridge) But in every thing we are afflicted,
yet not strangled;
we are beaten,
yet not condemned;
(Murdock) And in every thing we are oppressed,
but not suffocated;
we are corrected,
but not condemned;
(Lamsa) We are distressed in every way,
but not overwhelmed;
we are harassed on all sides,
but not conquered;

2Corinthians 4:9
(Etheridge) persecuted,
yet not forsaken;
cast down,
yet we perish not.
(Murdock) we are persecuted,
but not forsaken;
we are prostrated,
but perish not.
(Lamsa) Persecuted,
but not forsaken;
cast down,
but not destroyed;

Note the Aramaic verse 9's extensive rhyming and alliteration.  ("Ala la" means "but not.")
interlinear for 2Co 4:9
http://aramaicdb.lightofword.org/index.php/en/interlinear-search
          m-th-r-d-p-i-n-n
ala la m-sh-th-b-q-i-n-n
          m-s-th-kh-p-i-n-n
ala la a-b-d-i-n-n

2Co 4:8's lines all end with an "i-n" sound.
http://aramaicdb.lightofword.org/index.php/en/interlinear-search

[DavidFord]

Phil 4:8-9:  much rhyming in Aramaic
Verse 8's first line ends in "i," while the remaining 4 lines, plus the first 5 out of 12 words in verse 9, end in "n."

Janet Magiera, from Aramaic
http://aramaicdb.lightofword.org/index.php/en/interlinear-search
8 From now on my brothers
those [things] that are true
and those [things] that are modest
and those [things] that are upright
and those [things] that are pure
9 Those [things] that you have learned
and received and heard and seen in me
these do
and the God of peace

[DavidFord]

1 Tim 5:10: much rhyming in Aramaic
The first 5 lines end in "a" in the Aramaic, while the last line ends in "b."

1Ti 5:10; for the first line, I replaced Janet Magiera's 'good' with 'beautiful' given the underlying Aramaic 'shapira'
http://aramaicdb.lightofword.org/index.php/en/interlinear-search
and has a reputation of works beautiful
whether she brought up children
or received strangers
or washed the feet of holy [ones]
or relieved troubled [ones]
or walked in everything work good

[DavidFord]

Semiticism in NT:  'cried out, saying' 'spoke, saying'

David Alan Black, "New Testament Semitisms" (_The Bible Translator_ 39/2 [April 1988], pp. 215-223), cited by Michael Marlowe at
http://www.bible-researcher.com/hebraisms.html
Redundant use of "saying." Indirect speech is unknown in biblical Hebrew; all speech is recorded directly, whether the words recorded were the actual words spoken or represented the general meaning of what was said. The Hebrew word most closely corresponding to the Greek participle _legon_ "saying" is used to introduce the quotation. This idiom is well illustrated in Mark 8:28, "And they said to him, saying (_legontes_), 'John the Baptist'." For other examples of this idiom, see Mt 23:1-2, 28:18, Luke 14:3, 24:6-7.

'cried, saying' in KJV Revelation
Rev 6:10  And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Rev 7:10  And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
Rev 14:18  And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
Rev 18:2  And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
Rev 18:18  And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
Rev 18:19  And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
Rev 19:17  And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

'spoke, saying' and a 'cried-out, saying' in DLNT Revelation
Rev 7:2-3  And I saw another angel coming-up from the rising of the sun, having a seal of the living God. And he cried-out with a loud voice to the four angels to whom authority was given to them to harm the land and the sea, saying "Do not harm the land nor the sea nor the trees until we seal the slaves of our God upon their foreheads".
Rev 17:1  And one of the seven angels having the seven bowls came and spoke with me, saying, "Come, I will show you the judgment of the great prostitute sitting on many waters,
Rev 21:9  And one of the seven angels having the seven bowls being-full of the seven last plagues came and spoke with me, saying "Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb".

2 more redundant "saying"/"said" in Revelation
Rev 7:13 (KJV)  And one of the elders answered, saying unto me,
What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
Rev 10:8 (KJV)  And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said,
Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.

from searching KJV for:  cried saying
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=cried+saying&qs_version=KJV&limit=500
Genesis 39:14  That she called unto the men of her house, and spake unto them, saying, See, he hath brought in an Hebrew unto us to mock us; he came in unto me to lie with me, and I cried with a loud voice:

Exodus 5:15  Then the officers of the children of Israel came and cried unto Pharaoh, saying, Wherefore dealest thou thus with thy servants?
Exodus 17:4  And Moses cried unto the Lord, saying, What shall I do unto this people? they be almost ready to stone me.

Numbers 12:13  And Moses cried unto the Lord, saying, Heal her now, O God, I beseech thee.

Judges 10:10  And the children of Israel cried unto the Lord, saying, We have sinned against thee, both because we have forsaken our God, and also served Baalim.

1 Samuel 5:10  Therefore they sent the ark of God to Ekron. And it came to pass, as the ark of God came to Ekron, that the Ekronites cried out, saying, They have brought about the ark of the God of Israel to us, to slay us and our people.
1 Samuel 24:8  David also arose afterward, and went out of the cave, and cried after Saul, saying, My lord the king. And when Saul looked behind him, David stooped with his face to the earth, and bowed himself.
1 Samuel 26:14  And David cried to the people, and to Abner the son of Ner, saying, Answerest thou not, Abner? Then Abner answered and said, Who art thou that criest to the king?
1 Samuel 28:12  And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul.

1 Kings 13:21  And he cried unto the man of God that came from Judah, saying, Thus saith the Lord, Forasmuch as thou hast disobeyed the mouth of the Lord, and hast not kept the commandment which the Lord thy God commanded thee,

2 Kings 4:1  Now there cried a certain woman of the wives of the sons of the prophets unto Elisha, saying, Thy servant my husband is dead; and thou knowest that thy servant did fear the Lord: and the creditor is come to take unto him my two sons to be bondmen.
2 Kings 6:26  And as the king of Israel was passing by upon the wall, there cried a woman unto him, saying, Help, my lord, O king.
2 Kings 18:28  Then Rabshakeh stood and cried with a loud voice in the Jews' language, and spake, saying, Hear the word of the great king, the king of Assyria:

Ezekiel 9:1  He cried also in mine ears with a loud voice, saying, Cause them that have charge over the city to draw near, even every man with his destroying weapon in his hand.

Zechariah 1:4  Be ye not as your fathers, unto whom the former prophets have cried, saying, Thus saith the Lord of hosts; Turn ye now from your evil ways, and from your evil doings: but they did not hear, nor hearken unto me, saith the Lord.
Zechariah 6:8  Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.

Mt 8:29  And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?
Mt 14:30  But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.
Mt 15:22  And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
Mt 20:30  And, behold, two blind men sitting by the way side, when they heard that Jesus passed by, cried out, saying, Have mercy on us, O Lord, thou son of David.
Mt 20:31  And the multitude rebuked them, because they should hold their peace: but they cried the more, saying, Have mercy on us, O Lord, thou son of David.
Mt 21:9  And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest.
Mt 27:23  And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified.
Mt 27:46  And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Mark 3:11  And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God.
Mark 11:9  And they that went before, and they that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna; Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord:
Mark 15:34  And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Luke 9:38  And, behold, a man of the company cried out, saying, Master, I beseech thee, look upon my son: for he is mine only child.
Luke 18:38  And he cried, saying, Jesus, thou son of David, have mercy on me.
Luke 23:18 And they cried out all at once, saying, Away with this man, and release unto us Barabbas:
Luke 23:21 But they cried, saying, Crucify him, crucify him.

John 1:15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
John 7:28  Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, Ye both know me, and ye know whence I am: and I am not come of myself, but he that sent me is true, whom ye know not.
John 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
John 18:40  Then cried they all again, saying, Not this man, but Barabbas. Now Barabbas was a robber.
John 19:6  When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Take ye him, and crucify him: for I find no fault in him.
John 19:12  And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.

Acts 16:17  The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.
Acts 16:28  But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here.
Acts 19:28  And when they heard these sayings, they were full of wrath, and cried out, saying, Great is Diana of the Ephesians.

from searching DLNT for:  spoke saying
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=spoke+saying&qs_version=DLNT&limit=500
Mt 1:22  And this entire thing has taken place in order that the thing might be fulfilled having been spoken by the Lord through the prophet saying
Mt 2:15  and was there until the end of Herod— in order that the thing might be fulfilled having been spoken by the Lord through the prophet saying "I called My Son out of Egypt" [Hos 11:1].
Mt 2:17  Then the thing was fulfilled having been spoken through Jeremiah the prophet saying
Mt 3:3  For this one is the one having been spoken of through Isaiah the prophet saying [in Isa 40:3], "A voice of one shouting in the wilderness: 'Prepare the way of the Lord, be making His paths straight'".
Mt 4:14  in order that the thing might be fulfilled having been spoken through Isaiah the prophet saying
Mt 8:17  so that the thing might be fulfilled having been spoken through Isaiah the prophet saying "He took our weaknesses, and carried our diseases" [Isa 53:4].
Mt 12:17  in order that the thing might be fulfilled having been spoken through Isaiah the prophet saying
Mt 13:3  And He spoke many things to them in parables, saying— "Behold— the one sowing went out that he might sow.
Mt 13:35  so that the thing might be fulfilled having been spoken through the prophet saying "I will open My mouth in parables. I will utter things having been hidden since the foundation of the world" [Ps 78:2].
Mt 14:27  But immediately Jesus spoke to them, saying, "Take-courage, I am the One. Do not be afraid".
Mt 21:4  Now this has taken place in order that the thing might be fulfilled having been spoken through the prophet saying:
Mt 22:1  And having responded, Jesus again spoke in parables to them, saying,
Mt 22:31  And concerning the resurrection of the dead, did you not read the thing having been spoken to you by God, saying [in Ex 3:15]
Mt 27:9  Then the thing was fulfilled having been spoken through Jeremiah the prophet saying "And they took the thirty silver-coins— the price of the One having been priced, Whom they from the sons of Israel priced—
Mt 28:18  And having come to them, Jesus spoke to them, saying, "All authority in heaven and on earth was given to Me.

Mark 8:28  And the ones spoke to Him, saying "That You are John the Baptist. And others, Elijah. But others, that You are one of the prophets".
Mark 12:26  And concerning the dead, that they are raised, did you not read in the book of Moses at the [place about the burning] bush, how God spoke to him, saying [in Ex 3:15] 'I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'?

Luke 7:39  And having seen it, the Pharisee having invited Him spoke within himself, saying, "If this One were a prophet, He would know who and what-kind-of person the woman is who is touching Him— that she is a sinner".
Luke 12:16  And He spoke a parable to them, saying, "The land of a certain rich man was productive.
Luke 14:3  And having responded, Jesus spoke to the Law-experts and Pharisees, saying, "Is it lawful to cure on the Sabbath, or not?"
Luke 20:2  And they spoke, saying to Him, "Tell us, by what-kind-of  authority are You doing these things, or who is the one having given You this authority?"

John 8:12  Then Jesus again spoke to them, saying, "I am the light of the world. The one following Me will never walk in the darkness, but will have the light of  life".

Acts 8:26  Now an angel of the Lord spoke to Philip saying, "Arise and go toward the south on the road going down from Jerusalem to Gaza". This is a wilderness [road].

[DavidFord]

Aramaicism:  'behold' in Revelation

Does anyone here think Revelation was originally composed in Greek?

David Alan Black, "New Testament Semitisms" (_The Bible Translator_ 39/2 [April 1988], pp. 215-223), cited by Michael Marlowe at
http://www.bible-researcher.com/hebraisms.html
The use of idou. The particle idou "behold," found in the New Testament especially in Matthew and Luke, is often used in imitation of the corresponding Hebrew expression (hinne). It is quite genuine Greek (compare English "look here!"),^3 but used frequently it is a natural product of Semitic speech. New Testament examples include Matthew 1:20, 2:9, 3:16, Luke 1:20, 1:31, 1:36, 2:25, Acts 12:7, James 5:9. In GNB, NIV, and NEB the term is usually left untranslated.
Marlowe's footnote:
3. Black's statement that the usage of ιδου in the NT is "quite genuine Greek" needs qualification. It is of course a Greek word, meaning "look," but its usage in the New Testament is distinctly Hebraistic, and not colloquial Greek at all. In many places it does not correspond in meaning with "look here," or any normal usage of ιδου found in secular Greek literature or non-literary papyri; but its range of use does correspond exactly with that of the Hebrew interjections הֵן (hen) and הִנֵּה (hinneh), which were translated as ιδου in the Septuagint. This is admitted even by James Hope Moulton, who tended to deny the existence of Hebraisms: "We very rarely use the interjection 'Behold' in ordinary speech, and normal late Greek speech did not use it much more than we do. In those parts of the New Testament which come from Aramaic sources, or are written by men (like St. James) who continued to use Aramaic as their ordinary language, we find this 'behold' extremely often." (_The Science of Language and the Study of the New Testament_ [Manchester, University Press, 1906], p. 16.)

ἰδοὺ (idou) in Romans+, using
https://biblehub.com/greek/idou_3708.htm
Romans 9:33  INT [Greek interlinear]:  as it has been written Behold I place in
1 Corinthians 15:51  INT:  Behold a mystery to you
2 Corinthians 5:17  INT:  old things passed away Behold have become new
2 Corinthians 6:2  INT:  I helped you Behold now [the] time
2 Corinthians 6:2  INT:  [the] time well-accepted behold now [the] day
2 Corinthians 6:9  INT:  dying and Behold we live as
2 Corinthians 7:11  INT:  Behold indeed this very
2 Corinthians 12:14  INT:  Behold third time this
Galatians 1:20  INT:  I write to you Behold before
Hebrews 2:13  INT:  And again Behold I and
Hebrews 8:8  INT:  to them he says Behold days are coming
Hebrews 10:7  INT:  Then I said Behold I come in
Hebrews 10:9  INT:  then he said Behold I come
James 3:4  INT:  Behold also the
James 3:5  INT:  exceeding things boasts Behold a little fire
James 5:4  INT:  Behold the wage
James 5:7  INT:  of the Lord Behold the farmer
James 5:9  INT:  not you be condemned Behold the judge
James 5:11  INT:  Behold we call blessed the [ones]
1 Peter 2:6  INT:  in Scripture Behold I place in
Jude 1:14  INT:  Enoch saying Behold came [the] Lord

Rev 1:7  INT:  Behold he comes with
Rev 1:18  INT:  dead and behold alive I am
Rev 2:10  INT:  you are about to suffer Behold is about to cast
Rev 2:22  INT:  Behold cast her
Rev 3:8  INT:  works Behold I have set before
Rev 3:9  INT:  Behold I give of
Rev 3:9  INT:  but do lie Behold I will cause them
Rev 3:20  INT:  Behold I stand at
Rev 4:1  INT:  I looked and behold a door opened
Rev 4:2  INT:  [the] Spirit and behold a throne was set
Rev 5:5  INT:  not Do weep Behold overcame the
Rev 6:2  INT:  I saw and behold a horse white
Rev 6:5  INT:  I looked And behold a horse black
Rev 6:8  INT:  I looked and behold a horse pale
Rev 7:9  INT:  I looked and behold a crowd great
Rev 9:12  INT:  first is past Behold come yet
Rev 11:14  INT:  second is past Behold the woe
Rev 12:3  INT:  heaven and behold a dragon great
Rev 14:1  INT:  I saw and behold the Lamb
Rev 14:14  INT:  I looked and behold a cloud white
Rev 16:15  INT:  Behold I come as
Rev 19:11  INT:  opened and behold a horse white
Rev 21:3  INT:  heaven saying Behold the tabernacle
Rev 21:5  INT:  the throne Behold new I make
Rev 22:7  INT:  and Behold I am coming quickly
Rev 22:12  INT:  behold I am coming quickly

the corresponding KJV for Rev (later augmented with DLNT)
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?qs_version=KJV&quicksearch=behold&begin=73&end=73&limit=500
Rev 1:7  Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Rev 1:18  I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
Rev 2:10  Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
Rev 2:22  Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
Rev 3:8  I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
Rev 3:9  Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Rev 3:20  Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Rev 4:1  After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
Rev 4:2  And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
Rev 5:5  And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
Rev 6:2  And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
Rev 6:8  And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Rev 9:12  One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.
Rev 11:14  The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
Rev 12:3  And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
Rev 14:14  And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
Rev 16:15  Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

Rev 19:11  And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 21:3  And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:5  And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Rev 22:7  Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
Rev 22:12  And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

verses with idou in Greek not rendered as 'behold' by the KJV, and rendered as 'behold' in the DLNT
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?qs_version=DLNT&quicksearch=behold&begin=73&end=73&limit=500
Rev 6:5  And when He opened the third seal, I heard the third living-creature saying, "Come". And I saw, and behold— there was a black horse, and the one sitting on it holding a balance-scale in his hand.
Rev 7:9  After these things I saw, and behold— there was a great multitude (which, no one was able to number it) from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, having been clothed-with white robes, and palm-branches in their hands
Rev 14:1  And I saw, and behold— the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one-hundred forty four thousand having His name and the name of His Father having been written on their foreheads.

[DavidFord]

Semiticism:   body of _noun_, son of _noun_ = adjective

David Alan Black, "New Testament Semitisms" (_The Bible Translator_ 39/2 [April 1988], pp. 215-223), cited by Michael Marlowe at
http://www.bible-researcher.com/hebraisms.html
Adjectival substitutes. In Hebrew the so-called construct state largely took the place of the adjective. In this construction two nouns stand together, and the second noun (as genitive) limits or qualifies the first one. Greek has a corresponding use of the genitive case of a noun in an adjectival sense. The two most characteristically Semitic idioms are (1) the genitive of an abstract noun in place of an adjective of quality, and (2) the use of "son" (huios) with a following genitive of origin or definition. The former idiom, sometimes called the "Hebrew genitive," is found for example in Philippians 3:21, where Paul describes "our lowly body" (literally "the body of our lowliness"), and "his glorious body" (literally "the body of his glory"). New Testament instances of huios and the genitive include Luke 10:6 "a peace-loving man" (literally "a son of peace"), 1 Thessalonians 5:5 "people who belong to the light" (literally "sons of light"), and Colossians 1:13 "his dear son" (literally "the son of his love").

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Philippians 3:21 (DLNT)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=phil+3%3A21&version=DLNT
Who will transform the body of our lowliness
so as to be similar-in-formto the body of His glory,
according-to the working that enables Him
also to subject all things to Himself.

the body of our lowliness = our lowly body
the body of His glory = His glorious body

Romans 6:6
knowing this: that our old person was crucified-with Him
in order that the body of sin might be done-away-with,
so that we no longer are-slaves to sin.

the body of sin = the sinful body

Romans 7:24
I am a wretched person! Who will deliver me from this body of death?

body of death = dead body?  deadly body?  dying body?  mortal body?

Colossians 1:22
But now He reconciled you in the body of His flesh through His death,
that He might present you holy and without-blemish and blameless in His presence—

body of His flesh = His fleshly/physical body

Colossians 2:11
in Whom you also were circumcised with a circumcision not-done-by-human-hands,
in the taking-off of the body of the flesh in the circumcision of Christ—

body of the flesh = fleshly/physical/sensual/carnal/sinful/fallen body

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Acts 4:36 (DLNT) Now Joseph— the one having been called Barnabas by the apostles (which being translated is "son of encouragement"), a Levite, a Cyprian by nationality,

son of encouragement = encourager

Colossians 1:13 (DLNT) Who delivered us out of the authority of darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of His love,

Son of His love = his beloved son

Luke 10:6 (KJV) And if the son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon it: if not, it shall turn to you again.

son of peace = peaceful person

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Luke 16:8 (NKJV)
So the master commended the unjust steward
because he had dealt shrewdly.
For the sons of this world
are more shrewd in their generation
than the sons of light.

sons of this world = worldly people
sons of light i.e. sons of the light/Light/God = godly people

Luke 20:34-36 (DLNT)
34 And Jesus said to them,
"The sons of this age marry and are given-in-marriage.
35 But the ones having been considered-worthy
to attain that age
and the resurrection from the dead
neither marry,
nor are they given-in-marriage.
36 For they are not even still able to die,
for they are angel-like.
And they are sons of God,
being sons of the resurrection.

sons of this age = currently-living people
sons of God = godly people
sons of the resurrection = resurrected people

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Matthew 23:15 (DLNT) Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you go-around the sea and the dry land to make one proselyte. And when he becomes one, you make him a son of Gehenna double-more than you.

son of Gehenna = hellish man?  Gehenna-headed man?  murderer?  slaughterer?

a)  Ephesians 2:2 (DLNT) in which you formerly walked in accordance with the [present] age of this world, in accordance with the ruler of the authority of the air, of the spirit now being at-work in the sons of disobedience,
b)  Ephesians 5:6 (DLNT) Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience.
c)  Colossians 3:6 (DLNT) because of which things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience,

the sons of disobedience = the disobedient

John 17:12 (DLNT) When I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given to Me. And I guarded them, and none of them perished— except the son of destruction, in order that the Scripture might be fulfilled.

son of destruction = destroyed man?  destroying man?

2 Thessalonians 2:3 (DLNT) Let no one deceive you in any way, because it will not be present unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness is revealed— the son of destruction,

son of destruction = destroyed man?  destroying man?

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Luke 6:35 (DLNT)
But be loving your enemies,
and be doing good,
and be lending, expecting-back nothing,
and your reward will be great.
And you will be sons of the Most-High,
because He is good to the ungrateful and evil ones.

sons of the Most-High = imitators of God, i.e. godly

a)  Romans 8:19 (KJV) For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
b)  Galatians 3:26 (DLNT) For you all are sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus!

sons of God = godly

Romans 9:26 (DLNT) "And it shall be in the place where it was said to them 'you are not My people', there they will be called sons of the living God" [Hos 1:10].

sons of the living God = godly

a)  1 Thessalonians 5:5 (DLNT) For you all are sons of light and sons of day. We are not of night, nor of darkness.
b)  John 12:36 (DLNT) While you have the Light, be believing in the Light, in order that you may become sons of Light". Jesus spoke these things, and having gone away, was hidden from them.

sons of light = sons of light/Light/God i.e. godly

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Romans 1:4 (DLNT)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1:4&version=DLNT
the _One_ having been designated _as the_ Son _of_ God with power according to _the_ Spirit _of_ holiness by _the_ resurrection _from the_ dead, Jesus Christ our Lord-

Spirit of Holiness = Holy Spirit

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Psalm 89:22 (KJV)
The enemy shall not exact upon him;
nor the son of wickedness afflict him.

the son of wickedness = the wicked

[DavidFord]

Semiticism:  intensifying repetition:  Rev 17:6, Rev 5:11, Mark 4:41, Luke 22:15

Genesis 2:17 (Young's Literal Translation) 
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2%3A17&version=YLT
and of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou dost not eat of it, for in the day of thine eating of it -- dying thou dost die.'

Rev 17:6
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev%2017%3A6&version=YLT;DLNT
(DLNT)  And I saw the woman being-drunk from the blood _of_ the saints, and[a]from the blood _of_ the witnesses _of_ Jesus. 
And having seen her, I wondered _with_ great wonder.
(YLT)  And I saw the woman drunken from the blood of the saints, and from the blood of the witnesses of Jesus,
and I did wonder -- having seen her -- with great wonder;

Rev 5:11 (DLNT)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev+5%3A11&version=YLT;KJV;DLNT
And I saw, and I heard _the_ voice _of_ many angels around the throne, and _of_ the living-creatures, and _of_ the elders- and the number _of_ them was myriads _of_ myriads, and thousands _of_ thousands-

Mark 4:41
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=mark+4%3A41&version=YLT;DLNT
(YLT) and they feared a great fear, and said one to another, `Who, then, is this, that even the wind and the sea do obey him?'
(DLNT) And they feared a great fear[a]. And they were saying to one another, "Who then is this _One_, that even the wind and the sea obey Him?"
Footnote:
That is, they were extremely afraid.

Luke 22:15 (YLT)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke+22%3A15&version=YLT
and he said unto them, `With desire I did desire to eat this passover with you before my suffering,

Re: Hosea 1:6
http://textexcavation.com/infinitiveabsolute.html
My second example is Hosea 1.6 (Masoretic, LXX, Vulgate): 
.... נשא אשא.... αντιτασσομενος αντιταξομαι.... oblivione obliviscar....
And she conceived again and bore a daughter, and [God] said to her: Call her name No Mercy ["a more complete translation might be She Who Has Not Been Shown Mercy"], because I shall no longer assent to be merciful to the house of Israel, but rather opposing I shall oppose them.
....  Both the Greek αντιτασσομενος αντιταξομαι (opposing I shall oppose) and the Latin oblivione obliviscar (by forgetfulness I shall forget) retain a rigid literalness that betrays a Hebrew original.

David Alan Black, "New Testament Semitisms" (_The Bible Translator_ 39/2 [April 1988], pp. 215-223), cited by Michael Marlowe at
http://www.bible-researcher.com/hebraisms.html
Verb and cognate noun expressing emphasis. The Hebrew verb form known as the infinitive absolute is sometimes closely associated with another form of the same verb to express emphasis. A[n] Old Testament example is Genesis 2:17, "you will surely die" (literally "dying you will die"). A good New Testament example of this idiom is found in Luke 22:15, where the expression epithymia epethymesa (literally "with desire I have desired") means "I have earnestly desired." Mark 4:41 is a similar example: ephobethesan phobon megan "they feared greatly" (literally "they feared a great fear"). Though this idiom is paralleled in classical Greek, in the New Testament it seems to be derived from the Septuagint, especially in Luke and Acts.

The intensifying infinitive absolute in Hebrew.
A telltale sign of Hebrew origin or influence.
http://textexcavation.com/infinitiveabsolute.html
Rather many ancient texts composed originally in Hebrew are now extant only in Greek, Latin, or other language translation. The Hebrew originals have been utterly lost. But, if the only surviving texts are in Greek or Latin, or in some other tongue, how do scholars know that there was ever a Hebrew version in the first place, let alone that the Hebrew was the original?

By looking for a few good linguistic clues in the translations. One of the best clues is the presence of Hebraisms in the other language. A Hebraism is an expression or idiom that makes good sense in Hebrew, but not in the language into which the Hebrew was translated. (Every language has these kinds of idioms. Greek has Graecisms, Latin has Latinisms, English has Anglicisms, and so on.)

One of the most common Hebraisms of this kind is the intensifying infinitive absolute. An infinitive is the unconjugated or uninflected form of a verb. In English the preposition to usually precedes the infinitive, as in to read or to write. The infinitive in Hebrew takes two different forms, the construct and the absolute. But we are concerned only with the absolute form here. One of its most common purposes is to intensify the cognate finite verb in the same sentence. In other words, a Hebrew sentence might have the same verb twice in a row, once in the infinitive absolute form, and again in a conjugated or inflected form.

The result is an expression that, if translated literally into English, might look like to think he thought, or to speak he spoke. These phrases make little sense in English. Only slightly improving their intelligibility, some literal translations will use participles instead of infinitives, as in thinking he thought, or speaking he spoke. That is better, perhaps, but still odd in English, and probably missing the point of the Hebrew idiom, which is to intensify the main verb. So most translations obscure the Hebrew idiom altogether, and translate something like he thought carefully, or surely he spoke. The subject of the verb is not only doing the verb, he or she is doing it intensely in some manner.

The nice thing for scholars is that this particular Hebraism makes as little good sense translated literally into Greek or Latin as it does translated literally into English. And quite often the Greek and Latin translations of ancient Hebrew texts were almost painfully literal.

One has to be careful. Sometimes a Hebraism might show up in an originally Greek or Latin text just because the writer was a native speaker of Hebrew, and is thinking Hebraically. So the scholar will usually look for more than one or two Hebraisms here or there to come to a judgment on the original language of the text at hand. If the whole of an originally Hebrew text has been translated literally, however, the scholar will not have far to look. The translation will be teeming with Hebraisms.

Below are two examples from the Hebrew scriptures. There is no doubt, of course, that our Old Testament was composed originally in Hebrew. We still have the Hebrew texts, and are historically aware of the stories behind some of the more popular ancient translations of those texts. What will be of interest is how two of these translations, the Greek Septuagint and the Latin Vulgate, handle the Hebraic infinitive absolute.
My first example....
Even if the ancient Hebrew scriptures had survived only in Greek and Latin, an accumulation of obvious Hebraisms such as these would have served as undeniable proof of an original Hebrew composition.

[DavidFord]

Semiticism:  introductory "it came to pass"

David Alan Black, "New Testament Semitisms" (_The Bible Translator_ 39/2 [April 1988], pp. 215-223), cited by Michael Marlowe at
http://www.bible-researcher.com/hebraisms.html
Introductory "It came to pass." The peculiar use of the Greek verb egeneto with another verb often reproduces a closely corresponding Semitic idiom meaning "it was so" or "it came to pass."  This Semitism appears far more frequently in Luke's writings than elsewhere (Mark has only four examples of it).  An example is Luke 2:6, "And it came to pass (egeneto de) that while they were there, the days were completed for her to give birth."  Recognizing the unnaturalness of the expression, most modern translations begin simply, "While they were there" (see GNB, NIV, JB, NEB, RSV). For other examples of this idiom, see Luke 2:1, 2:6, 2:15, 3:21, 5:1, 5:12, 5:17, 6:1, 6:6, 6:12, 7:11, 8:1, 8:22, 9:18, 9:28,9:37, 9:51, 11:1, 11:27, 14:1, 17:11, 18:35, 20:1, 22:24, 24:4.

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[DavidFord]

Semiticism:  redundant 'saying' and redundant 'said'

Does anyone here think the 4 Gospels were originally composed in Greek?

David Alan Black, "New Testament Semitisms" (_The Bible Translator_ 39/2 [April 1988], pp. 215-223), cited by Michael Marlowe at
http://www.bible-researcher.com/hebraisms.html
Redundant use of the verb _apokrinomai_. The expression "he answered and said" (_apokritheis eipen_) closely resembles a common Hebrew idiom. The use of the verb _apokrinomai_ "I answer" in this sense is often purely redundant (see Matthew 11:25, 12:38, 17:4, 28:5, Mark 9:5, 11:14, 12:35).  In cases in which no question has been asked, it may be misleading to translate the expression "he answered" (Compare Matthew 11:25 in KJV "Jesus answered and said" with NIV "Jesus said").

Here's a nice example, where Jesus "answered and said" to a fig tree that didn't ask him a question:
Mark 11:14  And Jesus answered and said unto it,
No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever.
And his disciples heard it.

This is unusual in having a "wrote, saying":
Luke 1:63  And he asked for a writing table, and wrote, saying,
His name is John.
And they marvelled all.

This verse happened to have 2 redundancies:
Luke 23:3  And Pilate asked him, saying,
Art thou the King of the Jews?
And he answered him and said,
Thou sayest it.

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some KJV search results for:  answer said
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214 OT search results.  157 NT search results, with the ones having the redundancy being:

Mt 3:15  And Jesus answering said unto him....
Mt 4:4  But he answered and said....
Mt 8:8  The centurion answered and said....
Mt 11:4  Jesus answered and said unto them....
Mt 11:25  At that time Jesus answered and said....
Mt 12:39  But he answered and said unto them....
Mt 12:48  But he answered and said unto him....
Mt 13:11  He answered and said unto them....
Mt 13:37  He answered and said unto them....
Mt 14:28  And Peter answered him and said....
Mt 15:3  But he answered and said unto them....
Mt 15:13  But he answered and said....
Mt 15:15  Then answered Peter and said unto him....
Mt 15:24  But he answered and said....
Mt 15:26  But he answered and said....
Mt 15:28  Then Jesus answered and said unto her....
Mt 16:2  He answered and said unto them....
Mt 16:16  And Simon Peter answered and said....
Mt 16:17  And Jesus answered and said unto him....
Mt 17:4  Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus....
Mt 17:11  And Jesus answered and said unto them....
Mt 17:17  Then Jesus answered and said....
Mt 19:4  And he answered and said unto them....
Mt 19:27  Then answered Peter and said unto him....
Mt 20:13  But he answered one of them, and said....
Mt 20:22  But Jesus answered and said....
Mt 21:21  Jesus answered and said unto them....
Mt 21:24  And Jesus answered and said unto them....
Mt 21:27  And they answered Jesus, and said....
Mt 21:29  He answered and said....
Mt 21:30  ....And he answered and said....
Mt 22:1  And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said....
Mt 22:29  Jesus answered and said unto them....
Mt 24:4  And Jesus answered and said unto them....
Mt 25:12  But he answered and said....
Mt 25:26  His lord answered and said unto him....
Mt 26:23  And he answered and said....
Mt 26:25  Then Judas, which betrayed him, answered and said....
Mt 26:33  Peter answered and said unto him....
Mt 26:63  ....And the high priest answered and said unto him....
Mt 26:66  ....They answered and said....
Mt 27:21  The governor answered and said unto them....
Mt 27:25  Then answered all the people, and said....
Mt 28:5  And the angel answered and said unto the women....

Mark 6:37  He answered and said unto them....
Mark 7:6  He answered and said unto them....
Mark 7:28  And she answered and said unto him....
Mark 9:5  And Peter answered and said to Jesus....
Mark 9:17  And one of the multitude answered and said....
Mark 10:3  And he answered and said unto them....
Mark 10:5  And Jesus answered and said unto them....
Mark 10:20  And he answered and said unto him....
Mark 10:29  And Jesus answered and said....
Mark 10:51  And Jesus answered and said unto him....
Mark 11:14  And Jesus answered and said unto it....
Mark 11:29  And Jesus answered and said unto them....
Mark 11:33  And they answered and said unto Jesus....
Mark 12:17  And Jesus answering said unto them....
Mark 12:24  And Jesus answering said unto them....
Mark 12:35  And Jesus answered and said....
Mark 13:2  And Jesus answering said unto him....
Mark 14:20  And he answered and said unto them....
Mark 14:48  And Jesus answered and said unto them....
Mark 14:61  ....Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him....
Mark 15:2  ....And he answering said unto them, Thou sayest it.
Mark 15:12  And Pilate answered and said again unto them....

Luke 1:19  And the angel answering said unto him....
Luke 1:35  And the angel answered and said unto her....
Luke 1:60  And his mother answered and said....
Luke 4:8  And Jesus answered and said unto him....
Luke 4:12  And Jesus answering said unto him....
Luke 5:5  And Simon answering said unto him....
Luke 5:22  ....he answering said unto them....
Luke 5:31  And Jesus answering said unto them....
Luke 6:3  And Jesus answering them said....
Luke 7:22  Then Jesus answering said unto them....
Luke 7:40  And Jesus answering said unto him....
Luke 7:43  Simon answered and said....
Luke 8:21  And he answered and said unto them....
Luke 9:19  They answering said....
Luke 9:20  ....Peter answering said....
Luke 9:41  And Jesus answering said....
Luke 9:49  And John answered and said....
Luke 10:27  And he answering said....
Luke 10:30  And Jesus answering said....
Luke 10:41  And Jesus answered and said unto her....
Luke 11:45  Then answered one of the lawyers, and said unto him....
Luke 13:2  And Jesus answering said unto them....
Luke 13:8  And he answering said unto him....
Luke 13:14  And the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because that Jesus had healed on the sabbath day, and said unto the people....
Luke 13:15  The Lord then answered him, and said....
Luke 15:29  And he answering said to his father....
Luke 17:17  And Jesus answering said....
Luke 17:20  ....he answered them and said....
Luke 17:37  And they answered and said unto him....
Luke 19:40  And he answered and said unto them....
Luke 20:3  And he answered and said unto them....
Luke 20:24  ....They answered and said, Caesar's.
Luke 20:34  And Jesus answering said unto them....
Luke 20:39  Then certain of the scribes answering said....
Luke 22:51  And Jesus answered and said....
Luke 23:3  And Pilate asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answered him and said, Thou sayest it.
Luke 24:18  And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him....

John 1:48  .... Jesus answered and said unto him....
John 1:50  Jesus answered and said unto him....
John 2:18  Then answered the Jews and said unto him....
John 2:19  Jesus answered and said unto them....
John 3:3  Jesus answered and said unto him....
John 3:9  Nicodemus answered and said unto him....
John 3:10  Jesus answered and said unto him....
John 3:27  John answered and said....
John 4:10  Jesus answered and said unto her....
John 4:13  Jesus answered and said unto her....
John 4:17  The woman answered and said....
John 5:19  Then answered Jesus and said unto them....
John 6:26  Jesus answered them and said....
John 6:29  Jesus answered and said unto them....
John 6:43  Jesus therefore answered and said unto them....
John 7:16  Jesus answered them, and said....
John 7:20  The people answered and said....
John 7:21  Jesus answered and said unto them....
John 7:52  They answered and said unto him....
John 8:14  Jesus answered and said unto them....
John 8:39  They answered and said unto him....
John 8:48  Then answered the Jews, and said unto him....
John 9:11  He answered and said....
John 9:20  His parents answered them and said....
John 9:25  He answered and said....
John 9:30  The man answered and said unto them....
John 9:34  They answered and said unto him....
John 9:36  He answered and said....
John 12:30  Jesus answered and said....
John 13:7  Jesus answered and said unto him....
John 14:23  Jesus answered and said unto him....
John 18:30  They answered and said unto him....
John 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him....

Acts 4:19  But Peter and John answered and said unto them....
Acts 5:29  Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said....
Acts 8:24  Then answered Simon, and said....
Acts 8:34  And the eunuch answered Philip, and said....
Acts 19:15  And the evil spirit answered and said....
Acts 25:9  ....answered Paul, and said....

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36 OT search results.  25 NT search results, with the ones having the redundancy being:

Mt 27:11  ....the governor asked him, saying....
Mark 14:61  ....the high priest asked him, and said unto him....
Luke 8:30  And Jesus asked him, saying....
Luke 23:3  And Pilate asked him, saying....
John 1:25  And they asked him, and said unto him....

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20 OT search results.  27 NT search results, with the ones having the redundancy being:

Mt 12:10  .... And they asked him, saying....
Mt 16:13  ....he asked his disciples, saying....
Mt 17:10  And his disciples asked him, saying....
Mt 22:35  Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
Mt 27:11  ....and the governor asked him, saying....

Mark 5:9  .... And he answered, saying....
Mark 6:25  And she came in straightway with haste unto the king, and asked, saying....
Mark 8:27  ....he asked his disciples, saying unto them....
Mark 9:11  And they asked him, saying....
Mark 12:18  ....they asked him, saying....
Mark 14:60  ....and asked Jesus, saying....
Mark 15:4  And Pilate asked him again, saying....

Luke 1:63  And he asked for a writing table, and wrote, saying, His name is John. And they marvelled all.
Luke 3:10  And the people asked him, saying....
Luke 8:9  And his disciples asked him, saying....
Luke 8:30  And Jesus asked him, saying....
Luke 9:18  ....he asked them, saying....
Luke 18:18  And a certain ruler asked him, saying....
Luke 20:21  And they asked him, saying....
Luke 21:7  And they asked him, saying....
Luke 22:64  ....and asked him, saying....
Luke 23:3  And Pilate asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answered him and said, Thou sayest it.

John 9:2  And his disciples asked him, saying....
John 9:19  And they asked them, saying....

Acts 1:6  ....they asked of him, saying....

[marie glen]

OK, try this rather challenging (particularly if taken entirely literally) passage:

'Now when the Pharisees gathered together to him, with some of the scribes, who had come from Jerusalem, they saw that some of his disciples ate with hands defiled, that is, unwashed. And the Pharisees and the scribes asked him, "Why do your disciples not live according to the tradition of the elders, but eat with hands defiled?"'

'And he said to them, "Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, 'This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.' You leave the commandment of God, and hold fast the tradition of men."'

'And he called the people to him again, and said to them, "Hear me, all of you, and understand: there is nothing outside a man which by going into him can defile him; but the things which come out of a man are what defile him." And when he had entered the house, and left the people, his disciples asked him about the parable. And he said to them, "Then are you also without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a man from outside cannot defile him, since it enters, not his heart but his stomach, and so passes on?" (Thus he declared all foods clean.)' (Mark 7:1,2, 6-8, 14,15, 17-19)

Apart from the fact the explanation of the parable doesn't sound that different from the parable. Jesus is upbraiding the Pharisees on particular aspects of their behaviour, like putting certain, rather unqualified rules over proper moral conduct. Given that it seem a bit strained that Mark puts in a footnote saying that Jesus declared all foods clean when the topic of the discussion was how to eat not what to eat, but it made the Bible so it must be true.

But there's a catch, I knew if I touch something filthy and then immediately go off and eat with my hands, there's a good chance I'll get sick. So on balance what Jesus says is actually wrong and what the Pharisees advocate is actually correct, lucky, lucky Pharisees because they're not actually advocating it for its health benefit but to control people which is why Jesus attacks it. Jesus is wrong but only because I know something that is beyond the scope of the discussion that was going on at the time. Obviously, Jesus isn't actually wrong and His criticism of the Pharisees is of course correct even though we now know His facts aren't.

I have this trouble with the Bible sometimes, when struggle to even agree with Jesus and have to remember not to take what He said beyond what He actually meant, which might be less than the absolutely literal meaning, literal and allegorical are not the only two choices we have and you have to take a lot more care than that.

I figure it's taken for granted if i touch something unclean or disgusting, i know enough to wash my j
hands afterwards, let alone before eating with those hands. but is it natural for folks to always wash their hands before eating something? Only if obsessive compulsive. Which overdoing can actually decrease ones immunity. Most folks do likely wash their hands before preparing food for others, as just good manners. And after work, especially before eating.. But do we need a law handed out from other humans concerning it? Or it to be some sort of strange ritual - metaphor, wash your hands ye sinners! Ritual of self glorying..? (Says see I wash my hands all the time, and you don't! No matter that I rob widow's and orphans or anything!)

So again, imo, Jesus is right. Did the Old Testament have hand washing in its list of things? I think yes, for the priests before entering the Tabernacle or temple.. Which washing, I have to think in this instance does not have to do with eating with unwashed hands.. anyway. But as you said a rule to hold over others..

[DavidFord]

Semiticism:  'well/good' actually meaning 'better'

David Alan Black, "New Testament Semitisms" (_The Bible Translator_ 39/2 [April 1988], pp. 215-223), cited by Michael Marlowe at
http://www.bible-researcher.com/hebraisms.html
The use of the positive adjective for the comparative or superlative. The Semitic languages, with the exception of Arabic, have no special forms for the comparative and superlative adjectives (such as "bigger," "biggest"). Instead, the positive adjective is used, "big." Although the comparative is often used for the superlative in the koine, there does not appear to be any parallel in Greek to the Semitic use of the positive for the comparative or superlative. A good example of the idiom occurs in Mark 9:43: "If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better (Greek kalon, literally "good") for you to enter life crippled than having your two hands to go to hell." Note also the following examples: Mark 12:28, "the most important" (literally, "the first"); Luke 5:39, "better" (literally, "good"); and John 2:10, "You have kept the best (literally 'good') wine until now."

Mark 9:43 (KJV)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+9%3A43&version=KJV
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better [Greek: kalos:  good, well] for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Mark 12:28 King James Version (KJV)
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And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first [Greek:  prote] [i.e., the most important] commandment of all?

Luke 5:39 (DLNT)
And no one having drunk old wine desires new. For he says, 'The old is good'" [i.e., better].

John 2:10 (KJV)
And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good [i.e., better] wine until now.

Romans 11:19-20 (KJV)
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Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.  Well [Greek:  kalos] [i.e., better, as in better for you]; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith.  Be not highminded, but fear:

1 Cor 7:30-40 (KJV)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+7%3A30-42&version=KJV
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36 But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry.
37 Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will, and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well [Greek: kalos] [i.e., does better].
38 So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well [Greek: kalos]; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better [Greek:  kreisson].

James 2:3 (NIV)
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If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, "Here's a good [Greek: kalos] [i.e., better] seat for you," but say to the poor man, "You stand there" or "Sit on the floor by my feet," [i.e., take a worse seat]

Compare:

Luke 14 (from Aramaic, based on Younan), http://dukhrana.com
7. And he was speaking a mathla [parable] to them who were invited there, because he was seeing those who were choosing places among the front seats.
8. "When you are invited by a man to a banquet-house,
do not go seat yourself in the front seat,
lest a man more honorable than you should be invited there.
9. And he who called both of you will come, and will say to you,
Give place to this (man).'
And you will be ashamed as you get up and you take a lesser place.
10. Rather, when you are invited
go seat yourself in the back,
that when he that called you comes, he will say to you,
'My friend, move yourself up and seat yourself higher,'
and you will have tishbokhtha [glory/ praise] in front of all who sit with you.
11. For anyone who exalts himself will be humbled,
and anyone who humbles himself will be exalted."
Proverbs 25 (NKJV)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+25&version=NKJV
6 Do not exalt yourself in the presence of the king,
And do not stand in the place of the great;
7 For it is better that he say to you,
"Come up here,"
Than that you should be put lower in the presence of the prince,
Whom your eyes have seen.

[DavidFord]

Semiticism:  2-mouthed sword:  Hebr 4:12, Rev 1:16, 2:12; mouth of the sword:  Hebr 11:34

Hebrews 11:34 (YLT) quenched the power of fire, escaped the mouth of the sword, were made powerful out of infirmities, became strong in battle, caused to give way camps of the aliens.

Judges 3:16 (YLT)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Judges+3%3A16&version=YLT
and Ehud maketh for himself a sword, and it hath two mouths (a cubit [is] its length), and he girdeth it under his long robe on his right thigh;

Proverbs 5:4 (YLT)
And her latter end [is] bitter as wormwood,
Sharp as a sword [with] mouths.

Hebrews 4:12, Rev 1:16, and Rev 2:12 also have "two-mouthed":  see below, and the passages' PDFs at
http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Greek_Index.htm

Strong's Concordance 1366. distomos
https://biblehub.com/greek/1366.htm
distomos: double-mouthed, two-edged
Original Word: δίστομος, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: distomos
Phonetic Spelling: (dis'-tom-os)
Definition: double-mouthed, two-edged
Usage: (lit: twain-mouthed; hence: of a sword, as a drinker of blood), two-edged.
HELPS Word-studies
1366 dístomos – properly, two-mouthed (having two edges), like a "two-edged" sword with both sides of the blade sharpened to an edge; (figuratively) what penetrates at every point of contact, coming in or going out.
[A two-edged sword is an ideal defensive-offensive weapon and was known as "a drinker of blood" (Souter).]

NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from dis and stoma
Definition
double-mouthed, two-edged
NASB Translation
two-edged (3).

Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 1366: δίστομος

δίστομος, δίστομον (δίς and στόμα), having a double mouth, as a river, Polybius 34, 10, 5; (ὁδοί i. e. branching, Sophocles O. C. 900). As στόμα is used of the edge of a sword and of other weapons, so δίστομος has the meaning two-edged: used of a sword in Hebrews 4:12; Revelation 1:16; Revelation 2:12, and according to Schott in ; also Judges 3:16; Proverbs 5:4; Psalm 149:6: Sir. 21:3; ξίφος, Euripides, Hel. 983.
[ ξίφος means sword:
https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the-meaning-of/greek-word-4ebdc09be94ec38a8d58b5aab5cb22135dbbff1b.html

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
with two edges, two-edged.
From dis and stoma; double-edged -- with two edges, two-edged.
see GREEK dis
see GREEK stoma  ....

Hebrews 4:12 Adj-AFS
GRK: πᾶσαν μάχαιραν δίστομον καὶ διικνούμενος ....
Revelation 1:16 Adj-NMS
GRK: αὐτοῦ ῥομφαία δίστομος ὀξεῖα ἐκπορευομένη....
Revelation 2:12 Adj-AFS
GRK: ῥομφαίαν τὴν δίστομον τὴν ὀξεῖαν....

Strong's Number: 4750   
https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/nas/stoma.html
Original Word   Word Origin
stoma   probably strengthened from a presumed derivative of the base of (5114)  ....
Definition
the mouth, as part of the body: of man, of animals, of fish, etc.
since thoughts of a man's soul find verbal utterance by his mouth, the "heart" or "soul" and the mouth are distinguished
the edge of a sword
NAS Word Usage - Total: 77
edge 2, face 4, lips 1, mouth 60, mouths 5, say* 1, testimony 1, utterance 1, voice 1, words 1