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jabcat

Quote from: CST on March 17, 2018, 01:06:25 PM
Quote from: marie glen on March 17, 2018, 12:57:10 AM

      :faint:  :feint:


What on Earth is the difference between these two emojis meant to be. ...I don't know why this site has two virtually identical emojis for exactly the same thing.

:dunno:   :search:
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eaglesway

The one on the rite has no hair. The one on the left has hair. I relate more to the bald one. I must be an age thing. :Chinscratch:
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MusicLover123

Quote from: jabcat on March 18, 2018, 01:41:22 AM
Quote from: CST on March 17, 2018, 01:06:25 PM
Quote from: marie glen on March 17, 2018, 12:57:10 AM

      :faint:  :feint:


What on Earth is the difference between these two emojis meant to be. ...I don't know why this site has two virtually identical emojis for exactly the same thing.

:dunno:   :search:

It is a way of euphemistically repeating yourself without anyone noticing...

:banana:
John 1
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

GodIsLove

#128
I am responding to the post in which Jason wrote that white western people are superior/chosen, there are actual devils in human form, among other things. I feel pretty uncomfortable with those statements and I wanted to share several Bible verses that refute any such claim. I know others on TM do not share this view but I worry about anyone coming to this site and reading that post and thinking it is something representative of UR or representative of what others think here.

Acts 10:34-35 New International Version (NIV)
34 Then Peter began to speak: "I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism 35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.

Galatians 3
7Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham. 8Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: "All nations will be blessed through you."d 9So those who rely on faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

28There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Romans 3:23
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

Numbers 15:15
For the assembly, there shall be one statute for you and for the stranger who sojourns with you, a statute forever throughout your generations. You and the sojourner shall be alike before the Lord.

Revelation 7:9 ESV
After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands,

Philippians 2:3
Do nothing from rivalry or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves.

1 John 2:2
He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.

Revelation 5:9-10
And they sang a new song, saying, "Worthy are you to take the scroll and to open its seals, for you were slain, and by your blood you ransomed people for God from every tribe and language and people and nation, and you have made them a kingdom and priests to our God, and they shall reign on the earth."

Matthew 28
And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."

Romans 10:12 There is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call  on him

1 Corinthians 12:13
We were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink

James 2:9
If you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers

Ephesians 2:

11 Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called "uncircumcised" by those who call themselves "the circumcision" (which is done in the body by human hands)— 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ.
14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.
19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God's people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.

Remember, Gentile basically means non-Jew, so the above passage shows that "the two groups" i.e. every human are one in Christ.

Also note the verses that talk about people from all nations and all languages. 

marie glen

#129
Quote from: MusicLover123 on March 18, 2018, 02:19:51 AM
Quote from: jabcat on March 18, 2018, 01:41:22 AM
Quote from: CST on March 17, 2018, 01:06:25 PM
Quote from: marie glen on March 17, 2018, 12:57:10 AM

      :faint:  :feint:


What on Earth is the difference between these two emojis meant to be. ...I don't know why this site has two virtually identical emojis for exactly the same thing.

:dunno:   :search:

It is a way of euphemistically repeating yourself without anyone noticing...

:banana:

     :laugh2: :laugh2: I like them because they faint first one then the other.. (I often repeat myself anyway..)

I, for one, am emoji addicted? dependant?


P.S. -
Thank - you, GodIsLove! Great verses! :thumbsup:
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Enter The Story Annual Reading Schedule ~ https://inner-monastery.blogspot.com/p/daily.html

CST

Quote from: GodIsLove on March 18, 2018, 03:00:44 AM
I am responding to the post in which Jason wrote that white western people are superior/chosen, there are actual devils in human form, among other things. I feel pretty uncomfortable with those statements and I wanted to share several Bible verses that refute any such claim. I know others on TM do not share this view but I worry about anyone coming to this site and reading that post and thinking it is something representative of UR or representative of what others think here.

Acts 10:34-35 New International Version (NIV)
34 Then Peter began to speak: "I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism 35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.

Galatians 3
7Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham. 8Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: "All nations will be blessed through you."d 9So those who rely on faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

28There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Romans 3:23
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

Numbers 15:15
For the assembly, there shall be one statute for you and for the stranger who sojourns with you, a statute forever throughout your generations. You and the sojourner shall be alike before the Lord.

Revelation 7:9 ESV
After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands,

Philippians 2:3
Do nothing from rivalry or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves.

1 John 2:2
He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.

Revelation 5:9-10
And they sang a new song, saying, "Worthy are you to take the scroll and to open its seals, for you were slain, and by your blood you ransomed people for God from every tribe and language and people and nation, and you have made them a kingdom and priests to our God, and they shall reign on the earth."

Matthew 28
And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."

Romans 10:12 There is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call  on him

1 Corinthians 12:13
We were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink

James 2:9
If you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers

Ephesians 2:

11 Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called "uncircumcised" by those who call themselves "the circumcision" (which is done in the body by human hands)— 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ.
14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.
19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God's people and also members of his household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.

Remember, Gentile basically means non-Jew, so the above passage shows that "the two groups" i.e. every human are one in Christ.

Also note the verses that talk about people from all nations and all languages.

QuoteActs 10:34-35 New International Version (NIV)
34 Then Peter began to speak: "I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism 35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.

Does anyone else feel that the second clause of this sentence qualifies and limits the first clause. It suggests God actually favors those who 'fear him and do what's right'.  Which I don't think anyone would really find surprising but it means that showing no favoritism is probably not an absolute statement. It just means He favors things like 'justice' and 'righteousness', rather than the trivial things we show favouritism over.

In answer to your main point, I think it's pretty clear most of us find what Jason says uncomfortable. I know I find it particularly so because of the 'What if...' context he used to seem to distance himself from saying he actually believed these things even though if he doesn't, why mention them?

You have provided great quotes although I fear that people who already hold this position have devised ways to get around them.

Quote from: marie glen on March 18, 2018, 06:16:28 AM
Quote from: MusicLover123 on March 18, 2018, 02:19:51 AM
Quote from: jabcat on March 18, 2018, 01:41:22 AM
Quote from: CST on March 17, 2018, 01:06:25 PM
Quote from: marie glen on March 17, 2018, 12:57:10 AM

      :faint:  :feint:


What on Earth is the difference between these two emojis meant to be. ...I don't know why this site has two virtually identical emojis for exactly the same thing.

:dunno:   :search:

It is a way of euphemistically repeating yourself without anyone noticing...

:banana:

     :laugh2: :laugh2: I like them because they faint first one then the other.. (I often repeat myself anyway..)

I, for one, am emoji addicted? dependant?


P.S. -
Thank - you, GodIsLove! Great verses! :thumbsup:

After reading that comment, Marie, I've taken more of a look at them and seen that it's more complicated than that, they create a completely staggered effect, meaning they fall together, right first and left first at various different times.

MusicLover - I don't think 'euphemistically' is the word you mean given what a euphemism is.

EW (who Marie didn't quote) - the hair difference wasn't one of the differences I'd noticed. I'd been drawn to how the mouth moves and how both mouths end up in different positions, and supposedly suggest a slightly different emotion, before the faint.

jabcat

I think this emoticon thing is an odd part of the discussion, but maybe that's just me.  Not sure it really is even worth thinking about?
The oldest known manuscripts agree with each other 99% of the time.  The scriptures, accurately translated, Spirit revealed - reliable.   Looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.  Heb. 12:2

sheila

no..jc...I think it's becoming ridiculous...critiqueing to the level of straining gnats.I suppose we will be expected to'gulp down camels'next :sigh: :sigh:

MusicLover123

Quote from: jabcat on March 19, 2018, 07:41:08 PM
I think this emoticon thing is an odd part of the discussion, but maybe that's just me.  Not sure it really is even worth thinking about?
I think so! I mean, wouldn't it be awesome to have the next 10 pages filled with arguments about pixels on a screen?  :winkgrin:
John 1
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

MusicLover123

QuoteMusicLover - I don't think 'euphemistically' is the word you mean given what a euphemism is.
Well, I think it was. Just stretching it a bit...

For example, if I put  :dontknow: :dontknow: twice, you would ask, why are you copying yourself?

But, if I put  :dontknow: :dunno2: in this way, I am repeating myself, but making it less blunt in repeating myself.

Yeah, that probably doesn't work, but this conversation has deviated from the original enough already.   :rolllol:
John 1
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

CST

Quote from: jabcat on March 19, 2018, 07:41:08 PM
I think this emoticon thing is an odd part of the discussion, but maybe that's just me.  Not sure it really is even worth thinking about?

Maybe, but emoticons are generally light and humorous and the direction of this discussion had got more than a bit dark.

Quote from: MusicLover123 on March 19, 2018, 08:07:48 PM
QuoteMusicLover - I don't think 'euphemistically' is the word you mean given what a euphemism is.
Well, I think it was. Just stretching it a bit...

For example, if I put  :dontknow: :dontknow: twice, you would ask, why are you copying yourself?

But, if I put  :dontknow: :dunno2: in this way, I am repeating myself, but making it less blunt in repeating myself.

Yeah, that probably doesn't work, but this conversation has deviated from the original enough already.   :rolllol:

I'm not sure how a word that described how humans sometimes invent and/or appropriate other words in order to replace words that a listener might find tasteless and be uncomfortable hearing can be applied to emojis which exist to express emotions, any emotions in picture form.

And I think the emoticons you are using are different. The second is an indifferent 'I don't know' the second is more a 'aarrggh, I don't know, please stop asking me! I don't want to think about it'

jugghead

I myself just see it as a simple example of the thread itself as a whole, seeing an obvious difference but both stating the same thing .....

and what I mean by that is:
we are different individuals but we are both (or more) stating the same thing in that we are both (or more) stating "what we believe"
Wisdom is not measured by time, it is measured by understanding

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Patinak

 This may be :offtopic: , but I have an :idea2:.  I have been watching  as :hijacked: concerning Emoticons. I'm kind of a :cyberworld: :newb: , so I don't know how, but a U.R. Goodnews message using Emoticons :dontknow: .  There's even one for a part of the title for this thread  :icon_farao: . We could make an e-tract.

Jason

"All souls (people) belong to Me." - LOVE

(sorry for any message contrary to this that I posted before)

:Peace2: :dsunny: :HeartThrob:

CST

:) (I know I've contributed to emoticon exhaustion on this thread but I know no better way to express my feelings on the above post)

GodIsLove

Quote from: Jason on March 21, 2018, 05:44:03 PM
"All souls (people) belong to Me." - LOVE

(sorry for any message contrary to this that I posted before)

:Peace2: :dsunny: :HeartThrob:

:thumbsup: :HeartThrob: :dsunny:

Patinak

Quote from: GodIsLove on March 22, 2018, 09:02:21 PM
Quote from: Jason on March 21, 2018, 05:44:03 PM
"All souls (people) belong to Me." - LOVE

(sorry for any message contrary to this that I posted before)

:Peace2: :dsunny: :HeartThrob:

:thumbsup: :HeartThrob: :dsunny:
:thumbsup: :HeartThrob: :dsunny:

MusicLover123

Quote from: Patinak on March 23, 2018, 07:10:40 AM
Quote from: GodIsLove on March 22, 2018, 09:02:21 PM
Quote from: Jason on March 21, 2018, 05:44:03 PM
"All souls (people) belong to Me." - LOVE

(sorry for any message contrary to this that I posted before)

:Peace2: :dsunny: :HeartThrob:

:thumbsup: :HeartThrob: :dsunny:
:thumbsup: :HeartThrob: :dsunny:
:thumbsup: :HeartThrob: :dsunny:
John 1
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

marie glen

Oh.  ...I was wondering what all the smiley faces were for...  :dsunny: :gsmile: :thumbsup:  :HeartThrob:
"I will draw ALL to Me." [Jesus, Jn.12:32] Written in the pattern of the Holy Days? an image - https://inner-monastery.blogspot.com
Enter The Story Annual Reading Schedule ~ https://inner-monastery.blogspot.com/p/daily.html

CST

Hooray, Marie has done something original and shown she is an original. Or, alternatively, boo, Marie has done something original and shown she is an individual. Not quite some what the point of that repetition was.

MusicLover123

Quote from: CST on March 26, 2018, 03:22:12 PM
Hooray, Marie has done something original and shown she is an original. Or, alternatively, boo, Marie has done something original and shown she is an individual. Not quite some what the point of that repetition was.
Hey, I wouldn't have repeated the other ones. Just thought it would be funny if that kept going for a page long...

You have such a great sense of humor. Truly astounding
John 1
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

CST

I thought you might be, but without establishment or explanation I'm not sure how you expected it to take.

MusicLover123

Yeah, that's true...

But, isn't it when you explain a joke it is said to not be funny anymore?
John 1
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

marie glen

Quote from: Jason on March 21, 2018, 05:44:03 PM
"All souls (people) belong to Me." - LOVE

(sorry for any message contrary to this that I posted before)

:Peace2: :dsunny: :HeartThrob:

...I was joining the celebrating.. as a wonderful thing occurred.. :gimmefive:
"I will draw ALL to Me." [Jesus, Jn.12:32] Written in the pattern of the Holy Days? an image - https://inner-monastery.blogspot.com
Enter The Story Annual Reading Schedule ~ https://inner-monastery.blogspot.com/p/daily.html

Patinak

Amen, Glenda!

My addition of the emoticons was an "Amen" to GodIsLove's emoticons.

Sorry, I thought it was obvious.

Pat