Does Hebrew word Shoel mean grave

[joeteekay]

Does Hebrew sheol mean grave?

The word sheol in the OT has been translated as either grave or hell in most translations.

Most of us know that sheol was not a place of eternal punishment in hell fire. However sheol is often translated as grave. Many scriptures render this Hebrew word as grave, but is that accurate? Even faithful Jacob was there (Gen. 37.35, 42.38, 44.29, 31). Righteous Job also longed for it in Job 14.13. David spoke of going to sheol in Ps. 49.15 and Jesus went there, Ps. 16.10 and Acts 2.24-31. In all these cases, these men were "unseen" because they were dead.
Comparing similar scriptures of Ps. 16:10 and Acts 2:24-31 we can conclude that whatever "hades" means, "sheol" means the same, and whatever "sheol" means, "hades" also means the same.

The Bible likens death to a "Return." The soul RETURNS to sheol/hades—the UNSEEN. The spirit RETURNS to God who gave it. And the body RETURNS to the dust of the ground from whence it came.

Everyone's soul goes to sheol at death—both the sinners and the saints.

BUT WHAT DOES SHEOL MEAN IN HEBREW?

According to the studies of AE Knoch it does not mean grave. "The Hebrew for that to which, in death, man returns (the unseen, CV; grave, hell, or pit, AV), sheol, which signifies "ask,"* and corresponds to the Greek hades, meaning "unseen". Thus, in death, the soul returns to the "ask"; that is, it returns to that which must be asked about in order to be known, being unseen. Since it is imperceptible, that to which the soul returns is naturally the subject of inquiry. How appropriate, then, that the Hebrew should speak of it as the "ask" and that the Greek should speak of it as the "unseen or imperceptible.""
Sheol belongs to the Hebrew word family of the stem shal, ask, which is regularly used in that sense; cf The New Englishman's Hebrew Concordance, p. 1220, cp entries 2 and 6 (Peabody, Mass.: Hendrickson Publishers, 1984). The definition of sheol and its root can be found at this web site:

http://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/sheol/
http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/sheowl.html
http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/shaal.html

Conclusion: And so when someone dies their body goes into a grave and decays, the spirit returns to God who gave it and their soul ends up unseen or imperceptible.  I think translating the Hebrew word sheol as grave in English is incorrect.  "Unseen" for sheol is much preferred, but technically it means "ask".  That raises another interesting question.  Where is the soul of a dead person?  Some will say it disappears.  I disagree that it disappears. Or is it in the tomb (grave) where the dead body ended up?

[marie glen]

Also of interest is the word usually translated "soul" - OT-nephesh.. wind.. breath..

Psalm 16:10, Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

10 For Thou dost not leave my soul to Sheol, Nor givest thy saintly one to see corruption.

& Acts 2:27, YLT

27 because Thou wilt not leave my soul to hades, nor wilt Thou give Thy Kind One to see corruption;

#G5590 ψυχή - psuchē: ( :Chinscratch: psyche?)
breath
Dodson:
ψυχή
the soul, life, self
(a) the vital breath, breath of life, (b) the human soul, (c) the soul as the seat of affections and will, (d) the self, (e) a human person, an individual.

These topics are 'difficult' because every where.. everywhere.. man has added legend.. I believe the foundation of which is the claim "surely... you won't die..?" ..."hath God really said..?" - I believe originally "immortal soul"/inherent immortality is the pagan/other than Yahweh belief.. which spread out from Babel Tower with the confusing/dividing of the languages.. (and I always want to tie it into Cain's offering.. Idk why..) "smile:

[Lazarus Short]

Nice work, joeteekay!  Who would have guessed that "sheol" meant "ask"?  As for the soul, I believe that when the spirit is separated from the body, or leaves the body, the soul, the living person, ceases to exist.

[sheila]

Isaaih 45;11  Thus sayeth the Lord the Holy one of Israel. and his maker...'ASK me of things to come concerning MY SONS?

and concerning the work of MY HANDS command ye me. I HAVE RAISED HIM UP and I will direct all his ways..He shall build

  MY CITY and let all my captives go free..not for price nor reward.

   man's spirit is God's spiritual sons/daughters.........the son of man..is the spirit

[rosered]

 

  FROM SAULS TO PAULS ...

  http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Saul.html#.V78hvCgrIhc

LOVE IT   new name and new beginnings   from the little one  to the least  of these my brethren,,  to the greatest     in CHRIST  ALL THINGS MADE NEW ....

[sheila]

love it!  :laugh:  the persecutors on the road to dam/cu[r]se those whom God has forgiven ..thinking they do God a favour

have an expierence. those puffed up in self-righteousness..... are cut down in size to small/Paul...surely it is a work of His hands.


   what a work in His church..that we who formerly preached 'wrath' and condemnation in Babylon on the very ones [all men]

  He had performed atonement and shed His blood for.  He has turned the harsh rulers and judges unto ministering unto those

  who shall inherit salvation..and given them the humble heart of a servant.

   on that DAY the Lord Alone shall be exalted.!!!!!!!!! :banana:  Let's do the dance of the Shulamite!

[micah7:9]

Nice work, joeteekay!  Who would have guessed that "sheol" meant "ask"?  As for the soul, I believe that when the spirit is separated from the body, or leaves the body, the soul, the living person, ceases to exist.

"Who would have guessed that "sheol" meant "ask"?"  ****H7592

I also agree that the soul ceases to exist. Without a body and spirit[breath] there is no soul[living(breathing) creature.] I believe joeteekay is correct when he states "Everyone's soul goes to sheol at death—both the sinners and the saints." I believe best word of description would be "the unseen."

joeteekay "Or is it in the tomb (grave) where the dead body ended up?" I think not.

[micah7:9]

Does Hebrew sheol mean grave?

The word sheol in the OT has been translated as either grave or hell in most translations.

Most of us know that sheol was not a place of eternal punishment in hell fire. However sheol is often translated as grave. Many scriptures render this Hebrew word as grave, but is that accurate? Even faithful Jacob was there (Gen. 37.35, 42.38, 44.29, 31). Righteous Job also longed for it in Job 14.13. David spoke of going to sheol in Ps. 49.15 and Jesus went there, Ps. 16.10 and Acts 2.24-31. In all these cases, these men were "unseen" because they were dead.
Comparing similar scriptures of Ps. 16:10 and Acts 2:24-31 we can conclude that whatever "hades" means, "sheol" means the same, and whatever "sheol" means, "hades" also means the same.

The Bible likens death to a "Return." The soul RETURNS to sheol/hades—the UNSEEN. The spirit RETURNS to God who gave it. And the body RETURNS to the dust of the ground from whence it came.

Everyone's soul goes to sheol at death—both the sinners and the saints.

BUT WHAT DOES SHEOL MEAN IN HEBREW?

According to the studies of AE Knoch it does not mean grave. "The Hebrew for that to which, in death, man returns (the unseen, CV; grave, hell, or pit, AV), sheol, which signifies "ask,"* and corresponds to the Greek hades, meaning "unseen". Thus, in death, the soul returns to the "ask"; that is, it returns to that which must be asked about in order to be known, being unseen. Since it is imperceptible, that to which the soul returns is naturally the subject of inquiry. How appropriate, then, that the Hebrew should speak of it as the "ask" and that the Greek should speak of it as the "unseen or imperceptible.""
Sheol belongs to the Hebrew word family of the stem shal, ask, which is regularly used in that sense; cf The New Englishman's Hebrew Concordance, p. 1220, cp entries 2 and 6 (Peabody, Mass.: Hendrickson Publishers, 1984). The definition of sheol and its root can be found at this web site:

http://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/sheol/
http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/sheowl.html
http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/shaal.html

Conclusion: And so when someone dies their body goes into a grave and decays, the spirit returns to God who gave it and their soul ends up unseen or imperceptible.  I think translating the Hebrew word sheol as grave in English is incorrect.  "Unseen" for sheol is much preferred, but technically it means "ask".  That raises another interesting question.  Where is the soul of a dead person?  Some will say it disappears.  I disagree that it disappears. Or is it in the tomb (grave) where the dead body ended up?

Good study :dsunny:

[chester-blowfold]

Does Hebrew sheol mean grave?

The word sheol in the OT has been translated as either grave or hell in most translations.

Most of us know that sheol was not a place of eternal punishment in hell fire. However sheol is often translated as grave. Many scriptures render this Hebrew word as grave, but is that accurate? Even faithful Jacob was there (Gen. 37.35, 42.38, 44.29, 31). Righteous Job also longed for it in Job 14.13. David spoke of going to sheol in Ps. 49.15 and Jesus went there, Ps. 16.10 and Acts 2.24-31. In all these cases, these men were "unseen" because they were dead.
Comparing similar scriptures of Ps. 16:10 and Acts 2:24-31 we can conclude that whatever "hades" means, "sheol" means the same, and whatever "sheol" means, "hades" also means the same.

The Bible likens death to a "Return." The soul RETURNS to sheol/hades—the UNSEEN. The spirit RETURNS to God who gave it. And the body RETURNS to the dust of the ground from whence it came.

Everyone's soul goes to sheol at death—both the sinners and the saints.

BUT WHAT DOES SHEOL MEAN IN HEBREW?

According to the studies of AE Knoch it does not mean grave. "The Hebrew for that to which, in death, man returns (the unseen, CV; grave, hell, or pit, AV), sheol, which signifies "ask,"* and corresponds to the Greek hades, meaning "unseen". Thus, in death, the soul returns to the "ask"; that is, it returns to that which must be asked about in order to be known, being unseen. Since it is imperceptible, that to which the soul returns is naturally the subject of inquiry. How appropriate, then, that the Hebrew should speak of it as the "ask" and that the Greek should speak of it as the "unseen or imperceptible.""
Sheol belongs to the Hebrew word family of the stem shal, ask, which is regularly used in that sense; cf The New Englishman's Hebrew Concordance, p. 1220, cp entries 2 and 6 (Peabody, Mass.: Hendrickson Publishers, 1984). The definition of sheol and its root can be found at this web site:

http://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/sheol/
http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/sheowl.html
http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/shaal.html

Conclusion: And so when someone dies their body goes into a grave and decays, the spirit returns to God who gave it and their soul ends up unseen or imperceptible.  I think translating the Hebrew word sheol as grave in English is incorrect.  "Unseen" for sheol is much preferred, but technically it means "ask".  That raises another interesting question.  Where is the soul of a dead person?  Some will say it disappears.  I disagree that it disappears. Or is it in the tomb (grave) where the dead body ended up?

Those bible study tools are saying sheol can also mean hell?

[Lonely Summer]

Does Hebrew sheol mean grave?

The word sheol in the OT has been translated as either grave or hell in most translations.

Most of us know that sheol was not a place of eternal punishment in hell fire. However sheol is often translated as grave. Many scriptures render this Hebrew word as grave, but is that accurate? Even faithful Jacob was there (Gen. 37.35, 42.38, 44.29, 31). Righteous Job also longed for it in Job 14.13. David spoke of going to sheol in Ps. 49.15 and Jesus went there, Ps. 16.10 and Acts 2.24-31. In all these cases, these men were "unseen" because they were dead.
Comparing similar scriptures of Ps. 16:10 and Acts 2:24-31 we can conclude that whatever "hades" means, "sheol" means the same, and whatever "sheol" means, "hades" also means the same.

The Bible likens death to a "Return." The soul RETURNS to sheol/hades—the UNSEEN. The spirit RETURNS to God who gave it. And the body RETURNS to the dust of the ground from whence it came.

Everyone's soul goes to sheol at death—both the sinners and the saints.

BUT WHAT DOES SHEOL MEAN IN HEBREW?

According to the studies of AE Knoch it does not mean grave. "The Hebrew for that to which, in death, man returns (the unseen, CV; grave, hell, or pit, AV), sheol, which signifies "ask,"* and corresponds to the Greek hades, meaning "unseen". Thus, in death, the soul returns to the "ask"; that is, it returns to that which must be asked about in order to be known, being unseen. Since it is imperceptible, that to which the soul returns is naturally the subject of inquiry. How appropriate, then, that the Hebrew should speak of it as the "ask" and that the Greek should speak of it as the "unseen or imperceptible.""
Sheol belongs to the Hebrew word family of the stem shal, ask, which is regularly used in that sense; cf The New Englishman's Hebrew Concordance, p. 1220, cp entries 2 and 6 (Peabody, Mass.: Hendrickson Publishers, 1984). The definition of sheol and its root can be found at this web site:

http://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/sheol/
http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/sheowl.html
http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/shaal.html

Conclusion: And so when someone dies their body goes into a grave and decays, the spirit returns to God who gave it and their soul ends up unseen or imperceptible.  I think translating the Hebrew word sheol as grave in English is incorrect.  "Unseen" for sheol is much preferred, but technically it means "ask".  That raises another interesting question.  Where is the soul of a dead person?  Some will say it disappears.  I disagree that it disappears. Or is it in the tomb (grave) where the dead body ended up?

Those bible study tools are saying sheol can also mean hell?

Good question.

[marie glen]

I go by the original meaning in the OT, of Ecclesiastes which says in sheol there is neither thought nor doing.

Also Ps. 30 seems quite clear -

I will extol You, O Lord, for You have lifted me up,
And have not let my foes rejoice over me.
2 O Lord my God, I cried out to You,
And You healed me.
3 O Lord, You brought my soul up from the grave;
You have kept me alive, that I should not go down to the pit.

4 Sing praise to the Lord, you saints of His,
And give thanks at the remembrance of His holy name.
5 For His anger is but for a moment,
His favor is for life;
Weeping may endure for a night,
But joy comes in the morning.

6 Now in my prosperity I said,
"I shall never be moved."
7 Lord, by Your favor You have made my mountain stand strong;
You hid Your face, and I was troubled.

8 I cried out to You, O Lord;
And to the Lord I made supplication:
9 "What profit is there in my blood,
When I go down to the pit?
Will the dust praise You?
Will it declare Your truth?
10 Hear, O Lord, and have mercy on me;
Lord, be my helper!"

11 You have turned for me my mourning into dancing;
You have put off my sackcloth and clothed me with gladness,
12 To the end that my glory may sing praise to You and not be silent.
O Lord my God, I will give thanks to You forever.