Heaven and earth

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Tom

Quote from: micah7:9 on October 20, 2014, 04:54:16 AM

Three posts to say one thing. Condense. :dsunny: :Peace2:

Well, they really didn't all say the same thing, but anyway it's hard to "condense" when you're spaced out.

ed

Quote from: dajomaco on October 20, 2014, 11:04:56 PM
Matthew 11
25 At that time Jesus answered and said , I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.


Is now the times of Babes growing?

There are so many ways to grow.  We grow in faith, grace, knowledge, love, understanding.................

We grow in the heavenly.  I think that as the body of Christ concentrates on the knowledge and doctrine it becomes carnal........earthly.  The body of Christ seems fragmented, in the carnal.

In the heavenly the Body of Christ is united in the person of Jesus Christ. 

"Growing up into Him" who is the truth, He always brings us to the place of love, which covers the multitude of our shortcomings.

Ephesians 4
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

eaglesway

The Logos is complete, but it is not completely understood. http://www.hell-is-a-myth.webs.com/

ed

Matthew 6
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt , and where thieves break through and steal : 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt , and where thieves do not break through nor steal : 21 For where your treasure is , there will your heart be also. 22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. 23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

ed

Matthew 27
40 And saying , Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross.

This was during His Crucifixion.  They remembered what he said.  Not just concerning heaven and earth, but concerning the temple.

then right before His assention:

Matthew 28
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying , All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Is it not clear that heaven and earth were destroyed and replaced?




Tom

...not to me, brother. I think he was talking about the temple of his body dying and then being brought back to life.

eaglesway

The Logos is complete, but it is not completely understood. http://www.hell-is-a-myth.webs.com/

ed

Quote from: Tom on November 10, 2014, 11:41:29 PM
...not to me, brother. I think he was talking about the temple of his body dying and then being brought back to life.

Of course it is.  Something died(the old) and something came back to life(the new).

When Jesus arose he was not the same flesh man that died was he?

Did not heaven and earth change the day Jesus arose from the dead?


Tom

I understand what you're saying, but I think saying something was "destroyed" is different than saying it was "changed."

rosered

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Quote from: ed on November 13, 2014, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: Tom on November 10, 2014, 11:41:29 PM
...not to me, brother. I think he was talking about the temple of his body dying and then being brought back to life.

Of course it is.  Something died(the old) and something came back to life(the new).

When Jesus arose he was not the same flesh man that died was he?

Did not heaven and earth change the day Jesus arose from the dead?

  I  to believe   it was  the seed of promise   God  said    the WORD    be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth   , would be from His  one of  a  kind  Son  and

renewing of the Holy Spirit    the washing away the filth of the flesh   , no flesh pleases God so it would be spiritual sons and  daughters  born again of the Holy

Spirit just as Christ was  ,   born of a virgin    ,   Paul said I am  making you chaste virgins   for Christ seed to be  planted in your minds/ hearts   and the HOLY

Spirit conception /union   , I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh       ,   the new  one of a kind  would multiply  in the earth   would come though the death of   one
seed
Christ and new Life would begin a  new   Kingdom on earth as it is in heaven



Titus 3 :5      4But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared,

5He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness,

but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, 6whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior
Jesus is the reward  !!

rosered

#35
 

  Hi ed ,

Best way to me to see this is the false image of  corruptible man/ Beast  in Daniel 7 is seen  in Rev 14

Knowing the Babylon is falling    and its first done in you and others too  , this is what the Cross  of Jesus Christ come to destroy    and make an end of it forever
  and  Build the earth a new and   glorious Kingdom   of Spirit and truth     


14  8And another angel, a second one, followed, saying, "Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, she who has made all the nations drink of the wine of the passion of her immorality."

9Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, "If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
  same as Daniels head of gold and arms of silver and belly of bronze and   thighs and feet of Iron mixed with clay    ,    this promise to destroy  it and scatter it  , was by the same rock Jesus   to fill the earth     
  the Babylon Image        the idols    gold silver bronze and iron  of Babylon Daniel 7   I see this as the wisdom of mans ideas   and vain imaginations   and building  of truth and righteousness and  judgment and strength    all the crumble     and   be dust   in the wind     

  so will the true Image of Christ the incorruptible man   be seen in the earth  , rebuilding the true temple of the Living God comes all though Christ this one of a kind seed   , they grow in truth and grace     


   we will worship     the Father in Spirit of   Holiness   and truth /seed  word of God  only !



Dan 2:34-35
Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.
Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

Daniel referred to Christ as a "stone cut without hands" that becomes a mountain. It is Christ's kingdom  in the earth .
   By the righteousness of Jesus Christ only , its that little seed of faith that must grow , that old mountain has to go   , be removed and out of the way

   the    Lord Jesus Christ is fulfilling the old testament to the T !     every jot and tittle       , this is why we need so  desperately       the same Spirit of prophecy and testimony of Jesus Christ    they are One and the same   Witness

  in heaven and earth
Jesus is the reward  !!

ed

Very nice rosered,

We are kindred on what is fulfilled and what it means.

I like that part of about the "old mountain".

:)

ed