Here a great place to learn about the secret Illuminati government

[UniversalSceptic]

The people who make videos about the Illuminati and the End times seem to take no joy in the here and now. They almost seem obsessed with the world ending, which I don't think is what God wants. As for Monsanto's, their isn'y much we can do. The corporations have all the power, and the only way to fix it is a civil war, and that isn't going to happen. When the end times come, God will put things right.

[rosered]

The people who make videos about the Illuminati and the End times seem to take no joy in the here and now. They almost seem obsessed with the world ending, which I don't think is what God wants. As for Monsanto's, their isn'y much we can do. The corporations have all the power, and the only way to fix it is a civil war, and that isn't going to happen. When the end times come, God will put things right.

I can hope this helps you brother


   You know what helped me put into perspective     ?   God is so way up HIGH and SEES AND KNOWS ALL THINGS

we are down here in a low place and can barely see  and know  anything   
  our lives are so very short here and now      some dont even live  a moment   and some can live  120 years or so

  But History  allows us   to understand  that those that are long gone from here   in mortal bodies 

are examples of How Big  God is  still and always was and will be    and God allows a lot of  things to change    over time
  and Time is something only important to  human terms     , I am not sure Time   is something  that is measured in God

What do you think ?

[Lazarus Short]

The people who make videos about the Illuminati and the End times seem to take no joy in the here and now. They almost seem obsessed with the world ending...

That's why it's called "Doom Porn."   :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[sheila]

in the scriptures there is verse sayin'do not call conspiracy everything this people call conspiracy"

...we could find ourselves joined to a 'Jerry' as husband instead of Jesus Christ.   for those who don't know.......

    Jerry was a character in the movie 'Conspiracy Theory" it was on just last week.

[Searching_For_The_Truth]

I believe the illuminati has taken over the Vatican. For more info, watch William Tapley's youtube videos about it. According to Tapley, Mary will crush these symbols in the end and Lord Jesus will use Mary's Rosary to defeat the Anti Christ.

[eaglesway]

The scripture says the Anti-Christ will be destroyed by the brightness of His appearing. The rosary is a religious tradition. I would hold Tapleys teaching suspect if he believes there is power in the rosary.

[Searching_For_The_Truth]

The scripture says the Anti-Christ will be destroyed by the brightness of His appearing. The rosary is a religious tradition. I would hold Tapleys teaching suspect if he believes there is power in the rosary.

According to Tapley, Lord Jesus will use Mary's Rosary (which has 5 mysteries) to defeat the anti christ just like David used 5 pebbles to defeat Goliath.

[eaglesway]

IMO, Catholic mysticism with no scriptural basis upon which to stand.

[Searching_For_The_Truth]

IMO, Catholic mysticism with no scriptural basis upon which to stand.

I admit, I have been curious about why the Bible never mentioned the significance of Mary's Rosary since the Catholic Church and Catholic prophets emphasize it so much. I heard it had something to do with Mary visiting the church and instructing them to pray the rosary to prepare for the end times.

[Lazarus Short]

In this world, growing up often means unlearning/relearning what we were taught in our youth.  In my case, I grew up in the Southern Baptist church (ET), later joined the Seventh-Day Adventist church (ED), and have now learned UR.

[UniversalSceptic]

IMO, Catholic mysticism with no scriptural basis upon which to stand.

I admit, I have been curious about why the Bible never mentioned the significance of Mary's Rosary since the Catholic Church and Catholic prophets emphasize it so much. I heard it had something to do with Mary visiting the church and instructing them to pray the rosary to prepare for the end times.

My questions is: Why does Jesus need a weapon? He can just snap his fingers and poof; the anti-Christ is defeated. Also this just sounds like the Catholics stroking their ego that they are God's chosen people. Most people and religious denominations want to think they are the only one(s) to have the inside tract with God.

[sheila]

   the rosary..and praying the rosary is just custom and tradition,as far as I can see...and Just like in Jesus

  day,when He told the church leaders they invalidate the commands of God through such.  He said.....

   Pray this way...Our Father who art in heaven....and to Not recite long prayers etc..or pray as the pagans do..

  nor pray publicly..to be observed of men..or go on babbling.

   Matthew 6;5-14  read these scriptures..then examine the catholic tradition/custom of the rosary..and

judge for yourself..if this is what Jesus commanded/meant prayer to be.

[sheila]

also,read Jeremiah 7;18 and ch 44;17-25...personally,I think Mary would be mortified at that title......

  much like Paul and Barnabus were in Acts 4;8-18 when the pagans wanted to sacrifice to them.

   

[micah7:9]

Read  some westerns :banana:

[eaglesway]

Read  some westerns :banana:

:laugh:

[sheila]

...smart alecs....... :friendstu:

[WhiteWings]

   the rosary..and praying the rosary is just custom and tradition,as far as I can see...and Just like in Jesus

  day,when He told the church leaders they invalidate the commands of God through such.  He said.....

   Pray this way...Our Father who art in heaven....and to Not recite long prayers etc..or pray as the pagans do..

  nor pray publicly..to be observed of men..or go on babbling.

   Matthew 6;5-14  read these scriptures..then examine the catholic tradition/custom of the rosary..and

judge for yourself..if this is what Jesus commanded/meant prayer to be.

http://falsereligionstartedinbabylon.wordpress.com/2013/07/07/the-pagan-origin-of-rosary-beads/

THE PAGAN ORIGIN OF ROSARY BEADS

PRAYER BEADS – OR – ROSARY BEADS 

Rosary beads come in all shapes, colors, sizes and
quality. Some rosaries are strung with pearl, crystal,
wood and even plastic. But where did the ritual of
the rosary come from? And what, exactly, is the
significance of rosary beads?

The rosary in simplest terms is said to be a tool
used to aid prayer and meditation. The beads of a
rosary count the prayers as they are recited out loud
or in the mind. The user relies on the rosary beads
to keep track of how many times you've said a
particular prayer.

"Most commonly recognized in the United States
as a symbol of Catholicism, other religions including
Buddhism, Hinduism, Paganism and Islam employ
rosary beads as well."
-The Meaning of Rosary Beads
What Do Rosary Beads Symbolize?
By Jessica Ciosek

"Prayer beads, or prayer rosaries, are really
another form of the "witch's ladder," a knotted
rope or cord used to count repetitions during
a spell or ritual. Praying with beads is a spiritual
practice with a long history in most of the world's
religions."
-Sacred Mists Shoppe
Janet Farrar & Gavin Bone

"prayer beads originated with the Hindu faith.
Using beads for devotions dates to the 8th century BC
in the cult of Shiva. In India sandstone sculptures,
statues ca 185 BC, show Hindus with prayer beads.
The names of Hindu gods and prayers are repeated
on stringed beads, called mala, separated by larger
or different colored beads."
-A HISTORY OF PRAYING ON BEADS
  Patricia A. Dilley

"Hindu converts kept their traditional use of
prayer beads. Buddhist monks always carry a strand
of prayer beads, or rosary, usually of 108 beads."
-A HISTORY OF PRAYING ON BEADS
  Patricia A. Dilley

Prayer beads are used by : Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims,
and Catholics among others.

"Often, when religions sought converts,
they allowed them to retain some of their
pagan ways: ceremonial garb, heathen rituals
and traditions; in order to add to their numbers.
This led to spiritual pollution."
-A HISTORY OF PRAYING ON BEADS
  Patricia A. Dilley

"Before the 12th century, rosaries were used for
talismans (amulet or occult charms). Rosaries and
prayer beads were intended by the catholic church
hierarchy, for use by the ignorant."
-A HISTORY OF PRAYING ON BEADS
  Patricia A. Dilley

"Pagans had used prayer beads even before the
8th century before CHRIST, and they still use
them today."
-A HISTORY OF PRAYING ON BEADS
  Patricia A. Dilley 

The Bible warns us against use of prayer beads –
Matthew 6:7 says – "But when ye pray, use not vain
repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that
they shall be heard for their much speaking.

"And when you pray, do not...repeat the same
words over and over as the Gentiles (pagans) do,
for they think they will be heard for their much
speaking."
(Matthew 6:7)(AMP)-BibleGateway

"But when praying, do not say the same things
over and over again,  just as the people of the
nations do, for they imagine they will get a
hearing for their use of many words."
(Matthew 6:7)(NWT)

[sheila]

 :thumbsup:

[UniversalSceptic]

   the rosary..and praying the rosary is just custom and tradition,as far as I can see...and Just like in Jesus

  day,when He told the church leaders they invalidate the commands of God through such.  He said.....

   Pray this way...Our Father who art in heaven....and to Not recite long prayers etc..or pray as the pagans do..

  nor pray publicly..to be observed of men..or go on babbling.

   Matthew 6;5-14  read these scriptures..then examine the catholic tradition/custom of the rosary..and

judge for yourself..if this is what Jesus commanded/meant prayer to be.

http://falsereligionstartedinbabylon.wordpress.com/2013/07/07/the-pagan-origin-of-rosary-beads/

THE PAGAN ORIGIN OF ROSARY BEADS

PRAYER BEADS – OR – ROSARY BEADS 

Rosary beads come in all shapes, colors, sizes and
quality. Some rosaries are strung with pearl, crystal,
wood and even plastic. But where did the ritual of
the rosary come from? And what, exactly, is the
significance of rosary beads?

The rosary in simplest terms is said to be a tool
used to aid prayer and meditation. The beads of a
rosary count the prayers as they are recited out loud
or in the mind. The user relies on the rosary beads
to keep track of how many times you've said a
particular prayer.

"Most commonly recognized in the United States
as a symbol of Catholicism, other religions including
Buddhism, Hinduism, Paganism and Islam employ
rosary beads as well."
-The Meaning of Rosary Beads
What Do Rosary Beads Symbolize?
By Jessica Ciosek

"Prayer beads, or prayer rosaries, are really
another form of the "witch's ladder," a knotted
rope or cord used to count repetitions during
a spell or ritual. Praying with beads is a spiritual
practice with a long history in most of the world's
religions."
-Sacred Mists Shoppe
Janet Farrar & Gavin Bone

"prayer beads originated with the Hindu faith.
Using beads for devotions dates to the 8th century BC
in the cult of Shiva. In India sandstone sculptures,
statues ca 185 BC, show Hindus with prayer beads.
The names of Hindu gods and prayers are repeated
on stringed beads, called mala, separated by larger
or different colored beads."
-A HISTORY OF PRAYING ON BEADS
  Patricia A. Dilley

"Hindu converts kept their traditional use of
prayer beads. Buddhist monks always carry a strand
of prayer beads, or rosary, usually of 108 beads."
-A HISTORY OF PRAYING ON BEADS
  Patricia A. Dilley

Prayer beads are used by : Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims,
and Catholics among others.

"Often, when religions sought converts,
they allowed them to retain some of their
pagan ways: ceremonial garb, heathen rituals
and traditions; in order to add to their numbers.
This led to spiritual pollution."
-A HISTORY OF PRAYING ON BEADS
  Patricia A. Dilley

"Before the 12th century, rosaries were used for
talismans (amulet or occult charms). Rosaries and
prayer beads were intended by the catholic church
hierarchy, for use by the ignorant."
-A HISTORY OF PRAYING ON BEADS
  Patricia A. Dilley

"Pagans had used prayer beads even before the
8th century before CHRIST, and they still use
them today."
-A HISTORY OF PRAYING ON BEADS
  Patricia A. Dilley 

The Bible warns us against use of prayer beads –
Matthew 6:7 says – "But when ye pray, use not vain
repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that
they shall be heard for their much speaking.

"And when you pray, do not...repeat the same
words over and over as the Gentiles (pagans) do,
for they think they will be heard for their much
speaking."
(Matthew 6:7)(AMP)-BibleGateway

"But when praying, do not say the same things
over and over again,  just as the people of the
nations do, for they imagine they will get a
hearing for their use of many words."
(Matthew 6:7)(NWT)

Yeah let's just say that I remember all of the rosary prayer because we chanted it so much in Junior High. That's actually all it was: A chant. Nothing about it screamed passion or love, but more "the school has us do it once a month". I've come to look at the rosary as offensive to God because he specifically tells us not to repeat the same thing over and over again, which is basically what we are doing. The prayer is easy to remember because there is only three different chants repeated over and over again.

[rosered]

Yeah let's just say that I remember all of the rosary prayer because we chanted it so much in Junior High. That's actually all it was: A chant. Nothing about it screamed passion or love, but more "the school has us do it once a month". I've come to look at the rosary as offensive to God because he specifically tells us not to repeat the same thing over and over again, which is basically what we are doing. The prayer is easy to remember because there is only three different chants repeated over and over again.

  :thumbsup:

  learning to pray to God as  the   Holy Spirit    gives   utterances  in   prayer on our behalf

   Romans  8


...25But if we hope for what we do not see, with perseverance we wait eagerly for it.



26In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should,

but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words;


27and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is,

because He intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.

   wonderful to know      that   our help   is near  [in our hearts !!]      and not in some object   to  appear holy before men  :sigh:      I feel pity   for them   , that they do not know any better , but were taught that way