The Wicked will be no more?

Started by Jason76, August 22, 2014, 06:50:24 AM

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Jason76

Jehovah's Witnesses claim that this backs the total banishment of wicked (annihilation), while Hell supporters probably claim it's a reference to never ending torture.  What does it mean in the universalism context?

Searching_For_The_Truth

Well if ET is true, then there is no point in saying that the wicked will be no more because they will actually still exist except they will be tortured forever.

Seth

Proverbs 23
4Do not weary yourself to gain wealth,
Cease from your consideration of it.
5 When you set your eyes on it, it is gone (Hebrew - ayin).
For wealth certainly makes itself wings
Like an eagle that flies toward the heavens.


The context in this particular use of the word "gone" is not that the wealth has literally disintegrated, but that it leaves its place, you spend it up. It's temporary in its place in your wallet.

When God drives out the wicked, that doesn't necessarily mean he disintegrated them, but that they are gone from their place, driven out.

gregoryfl

A man had leprosy.

He was called a leper.

Yeshua came along and healed the leprosy in the leper.

The leper is no more, not because he no longer exists, but because what made him a leper was done away with.

Ronen


lomarah

Quote from: gregoryfl on August 22, 2014, 10:24:54 AM
A man had leprosy.

He was called a leper.

Yeshua came along and healed the leprosy in the leper.

The leper is no more, not because he no longer exists, but because what made him a leper was done away with.

Ronen

Spot on! (No pun intended...)

Lazarus Short

You have to ask yourself:

Are the wicked no more because God destroyed them?

or

Are the wicked no more because God made them un-wicked?
Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

YHVH = Behold the Nail, Behold the Hand = Jesus

rosered

Quote from: Lazarus Short on August 22, 2014, 03:18:40 PM
You have to ask yourself:

Are the wicked no more because God destroyed them?

or

Are the wicked no more because God made them un-wicked?

  good question laz   
  and you also have to wonder  is this evil spirits  working in mankind that  are given to judgment
  or evil men ?     what makes men evil ?
  why   in the 4 gospels especially in Mark does Jesus do so much "healing " the sick and cast out   , what ? evil thoughts  , just evil thoughts in man to act on ?       evil thought and evil spirits  have a torment of themselves  many a mankind cannot live with them  I believe evil thoughts come from evil  spirits ! against   the very nature of God
Is suicide an act of an   evil  spirit working
  murder  ?  what causes  one to murder ?

I watched a show where a thirteen  year old  red headed freckled face kid   was in prison for    crushing a 4 year old neighbor boy   with a large creek rock by the  stream

   when asked WHY?     why did you do this , that kid   had no clue as to why he done that  , totally lost  for a reason   why   he done such a wicked thing

  why do any of us do/ act  IN  wicked things ??????Definition. wicked, criminal. guilty one, one guilty of crime (subst); wicked (hostile to God); wicked, guilty of sin (against God or man)  evil by nature and in practice

So much wickedness is swept under the rugs of society   with no answers nor justice  , It will take the cleansing  effects of the fires of Gods consuming love to put an end to the violence     we all have become "numb " to because it is prevalent   in this world        the old man is dying and the new man in Christ is being renewed [made  day by day ] the Light of Christ in the knowledge  of God
one must realize    this  and eyes  be opened  before  any healing of Christ begins
God is the only one doing the work though Christ Jesus right now   and  its HIS GLORY ALONE  that no man can boast  about    except  you KNOW IT IS THE TRUTH !

   
Jesus is the reward  !!

micah7:9

Quote from: Lazarus Short on August 22, 2014, 03:18:40 PM
You have to ask yourself:

Are the wicked no more because God destroyed them?

or

Are the wicked no more because God made them un-wicked?

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