stored up for fire

[sheila]

 yellowstone is emiting unusually high levels of helium .  Genesis 7;11-on that day all the springs

of the great deep burst forth,and the floodgates of the heavens were opened.

   Peter ;7,1  By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire......

     v  BUT IN KEEPING WITH HIS PROMISE WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO A NEW HEAVEN

  AND A NEW EARTH.

   Rev 0;9 they marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people,

  the city He loves[all men]  But fire come down from heaven and devoured them.

   and the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of burning sulpher,where the beast

and the false prophet had been thrown.

[WhiteWings]

I'm wondering, the great deep can also refer to the heart....???

[sheila]

sure can.  but there is a natural and a spiritual fufillment......the heart of the earth[bottomless] can melt

  just as spiritually speaking..man's heart can melt[soften like wax so the Lord can write His laws of

love in them.  out of the hearts abundance..the mouth speaks[so we see rock...melting and overflowing

out of  the mouth]

    I do not expect what I wrote hear to not disconcert........He is going to remove all life from this planet

   [I will no lnger allow them to live in Egypt/world]

[sheila]

Judges 13;18.  why do you ask my name? It is beyond understanding.

    THEN MANOAH[MAN/NOAH] TOOK A YOUNG GOAT,TOGATHER WITH THE GRAIN OFFERING

    AND SACRIFICED IT ON A ROCK TO THE LORD.  AND THE LORD DID AN AMAZING THING

  WHILE MANOAH AND HIS WIFE WATCHED. AS THE FLAME BLAZED UP FROM THE ALTAR

TOWARD HEAVEN, THE ANGEL[SPIRIT CREATURE] OF THE LORD ASCENDED IN THE FLAME

[micah7:9]

And because Yellowstone is doing what it is supposed to be doing, has caused this concern? Has anyone given thought that perhaps all that is happening that the news reports as odd, amazing, incredible is all right in tune with how creation is supposed to react to the time EST,CST,MST,PST. :HeartThrob:

[sheila]

 you think I have gone the way of Babylon..and are fear mongering?  on the contrary I speak of these

things,so that when they happen,you should not be afraid...or in terror...thinking some strange thing

has befallen you. Because just as when Jesus was on the cross..it looked like the dominion of darkness

had overcome the light..when in truth He had overcom and was in fact putting death under His feet.


  in the spiritual...hearts burning with the flame of love/God[clean on the inside] overflow and make

a new creature[then the outside will be clean,also]  in the natural melting rocks inside mountains

  make new earth[nature's terraformers]  thus the stone that hit the image and grew until it became

a mountain that filled the earth....

  Luke 17;6  just as it was in the days of Noah,so also will it be in the days of the son of man

  2 Peter ;  first of all you must understand,that in the last days scoffers will come,scoffing

and following their own evil desires. They will saay 'where is this coming He promised? Ever

since our father's died,everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation. But they

deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed

out of water and by water. By these waters also the world that was at that time was deluged

and destroyed.  BY THE SAME WORD the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire.

v 10,11  Since everything will be destroyed in this way,what kind of people ought you to be

You ought tolive holy and godly lives..as you look forward to the day of God and speed it's coming

  that day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire and the elements will melt in

the heat. But in keeping with His promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth


   Rev 21.....then I saw a new heaven and a new earth,for the first heaven and the first earth had

passed away.

   1 Thess ;4;16   For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a loud command,with

the voice of the arkangel and with the trumpet call of God,and the dead in Christ shall rise first

After that we who are still alive and are left will be caught up with them in the clouds to meet

the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

   we do not want you to be ignorant of those who fall asleep or greive like the rest of men who

have no hope[like those who think when the Lord does these things that men are eternally

condemned to death..and that their ministry of etrnal hell is right..for in fact..God and Jesus are

working a great deliverance of all mankind from this world..and men are being delivered from the

body undergoing that death..and into the eternal Kingdom.  In fact all men raised up in Christ

are patterned after Him....the putting to death in the flesh but the raising up in the spirit[he who loses

his life in thisworld forthe sake of the Kingdom of heaven..preserves it.]

   Hebrews 11;'7 they went about in sheepskins and goatskins destitute persecuted and mistreated-

   THE WORLD WAS NOT WORTHY OF THEM[the prince of this world has been judged that his works

are wicked]     deliver us from the evil one.      We are approaching the Great deliverance.......

   this exercize in evil is coming to it's end....a great deliverance of man into a Freedom from

  all evil..into a place where righteousness dwells......no more hunger,pain,tears,death


   Zephaniah ;19  At that time I will deal with all who oppressed you. I will  rescue the lame

and gather all who have been scattered. I will give them praise an honour in every land where they

were put to shame.  At that time I will gather you....AT THAT TIME I WILL BRING YOU HOME

  I will give you honour and praise among all the people's of the earth,when I restore your

fortunes before your very eyes.[yes,man is honoured of God,with His salvation and restoration]

[sheila]

SOS 8;6  Place me like a seal over your heart,like a seal on your arm;

  for love is as strong as death....it's jealousy as unyeilding as the grave.

   it burns like blazing fire like a mighty flame.

   Many waters can not quench love; rivers can not wash it away.

  if one was to give all the wealth of his house for love..it would be utterly scorned[think of all the

kingdoms of the earth that satan offered in thetemptation in the wilderness to Christ..for one act]

   

[Seth]

In my humble opinion, I don't see any requirement or guarantee that God fulfill any prophecy both literally or spiritually/metaphorically. I believe God can fulfill them in any way he wishes. No offense intended to anyone who disagrees.

Romans 11:33
O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

[WhiteWings]

I believe God can fulfill them in any way he wishes.

He can't because He has committed Himself to the patterns He made. Just like He won't break His own laws.

[Seth]

His ways are not searchable according to a pattern that man assumes God is bound to keep. There may be a pattern you cannot see yet. I don't believe Christ, for example, is going to literally kill mankind with a literal sword literally jutting out of his mouth per Revelation 19. Christ says he will judge the world with his word because he came not to destroy men's lives but to save. God is under no obligations to fulfill any prophecy according to man's perceived patterns.

[sheila]

Secrets of Enoch ch 29...regarding celestial bodies..of heavenly troops as an essence

of fire[He who makes His angels as flaming ministers of fire]

  And for all the heavenly troops,I imaged the image and essence of fire,and my eye

  looked at the very  hard firm rock, and from the gleam[twinkle] of my eye, the lightening

  received it's wonederful nature,which is both fire in water and water in fire,and one does

not put out the other,nor does the one dry up the other, therefore the lightening is brighter

then the sun,softer then water and firmer then hard rock.

   and from the rock I cut off a great fire[Our God is a rock],and from the fire I created

the great orders of the ten troops of the incorpeal angels.  And their weapons are fiery

and their rainment a burning flame,and I commanded that each one should stand in his order.

     Here satan and his angels are thrown out[war broke out in heaven,Michael and his angels fought and satan and his..but satan was not strong enough[incorruptible bodies..not weak corruptible flesh of man...see war to take land of Canaan..for pattern/Michael stand up]


      the children of the resurrection are like the angels..the children of God.  Each in his own

order.

   Father,glorify me with the glory I had with you before the world was.

     Rev 1;14-17

   it is sown a natural body in weakness..and raised a celestial body of power.

    and do not worry what you will wear......[ye shall not be unclothed]  Mt 6;28 Luke 12;27,28

     DO NOT BE AFRAID,LITTLE FLOCK,FOR THE FATHER HAS BEEN PLEASED TO GIVE

   YOU THE KINGDOM.[and I have other sheep not of this flock[all men are sheep]

     the 'best robe'  bone of His bone,flesh of His flesh...when we see Him face to face

  and are just like Him[one body,one spirit,one celestial flesh]

    now, the heart of man has not imagined what God has stored up for all that love Him

   and it is the spirit of God which reveals all these things pertaining to Christ and the things

  He has freely given us.

       do not eat from the tokogae lest ye die..and thus  sin entered all men..and all men died.

    through the righteousness of one man..the free gift of life comes to all men.

   we should not be loving our life in this world..it is not our eternal dwelling place.....

     Rev20;11....earth and sky fled from His presence...and there was no place for them



   

[eaglesway]

His ways are not searchable according to a pattern that man assumes God is bound to keep. There may be a pattern you cannot see yet. I don't believe Christ, for example, is going to literally kill mankind with a literal sword literally jutting out of his mouth per Revelation 19. Christ says he will judge the world with his word because he came not to destroy men's lives but to save. God is under no obligations to fulfill any prophecy according to man's perceived patterns.

I thnk the sword that comes out of Jesus' mouth, and His eyes of fire, are defined in Hebrews 4:12,13
For the word of God is living and active and sharper thana any two-edged sword and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, joints and marrow, a discerner of the thoughts and intentions of the heart....and no creature is hidden from His sight but all things are openand laid bare  to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do.

[Seth]

I agree  :thumbsup:

[rosered]

Greetings


   Computer was down this week , But  saw this   ,
I just wanted to share some comforting thoughts    that the Lord has  so helped us with along lifes journey
  Thanks Shelia  ,  those of His Spirit do not fear what can be  done to the body ..
Beliving  in the written Word    and can remember reading this  with my carnal mind ,  Fear   was a factor 
  and all whom read   the word without the ears to hear  and heart to understand what the Spirit is saying    can and does tremble at His Word  as it is written .



Hbr 12:18 ¶ For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest, 


Hbr 12:19   And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:  


Hbr 12:20   (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:    Hbr 12:21   And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:)

[For me,   this  is speaking of the mind of a beast the carnal mind that death reigns still ]


Hbr 12:22   But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 


Hbr 12:23   To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 


Hbr 12:24   And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. 


Hbr 12:25 ¶ See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: 
Hbr 12:26   Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. 


Hbr 12:27  And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain. 


Hbr 12:28   Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: 


Hbr 12:29   For our God is a consuming fire.


  Being still in these  fleshly bodies   its hard to always   remain [dwell ] in the Spirit and His Word  abiding in us   , at times   the cares of this life does choke  out the Word of God ,   that warning is real as well ,     I thank you for the Spirit in which you sent this warning and  comfort  Shelia ! 

   I  believe with all my heart as  3 parts    are very  real ,  the written for our instruction     the Spoken   that we remain clean    and the Living word    as  the  works of God though Christ are being done  now        , the written   is   the literal carnal  command   as a man of God  Moses sent the firey Law    and the prophets   whom  witnessed to the coming of Jesus Christ   ,  and the Hear  the Spoken Word though Gods Son   , Jesus Christ  ,   to whom all prophecies  have and will and continue to be filled  ,   by the Spirit of prophecy   which is    the testimony of Jesus Christ and those whom are also His witnesses     ! 

   God bless those whom  , see , hear and understand   in their hearts Gods peace though Jesus Christ . 

[eaglesway]

I love the way the word explains itself if we can see it.

"And this word signifies the removal of things that are shaken until only those things which cannot be shaken remain"

This what the fire does, until God is all in all-

"These three abide, faith hope and love, but the greatest of these is love"

[rosered]

 :HeartThrob:   thank you Yes , its truth Bro John !

1Th 5:1 Now concerning how and when all this will happen, dear brothers and sisters,  we don't really need to write you. 
1Th 5:2 For you know quite well that the day of the Lord's return will come unexpectedly, like a thief in the night. 


1Th 5:3 When people are saying, "Everything is peaceful and secure," then disaster will fall on them as suddenly as a pregnant woman's labor pains begin. And there will be no escape. 


1Th 5:4 But you aren't in the dark about these things, dear brothers and sisters, and you won't be surprised when the day of the Lord comes like a thief.   


1Th 5:5 For you are all children of the light and of the day; we don't belong to darkness and night. 
1Th 5:6 So be on your guard, not asleep like the others. Stay alert and be clearheaded. 

1Th 5:7 Night is the time when people sleep and drinkers get drunk. 


1Th 5:8 But let us who live in the light be clearheaded, protected by the armor of faith and love, and wearing as our helmet the confidence of our salvation. 

1Th 5:9 For God chose to save us through our Lord Jesus Christ, not to pour out his anger on us. 


1Th 5:10 Christ died for us so that, whether we are dead or alive when he returns, we can live with him forever. 

1Th 5:11 So encourage each other and build each other up, just as you are already doing. 


1Th 5:12 Dear brothers and sisters, honor those who are your leaders in the Lord's work. They work hard among you and give you spiritual guidance. 


1Th 5:13 Show them great respect and wholehearted love because of their work. And live peacefully with each other. 


1Th 5:14 Brothers and sisters, we urge you to warn those who are lazy. Encourage those who are timid. Take tender care of those who are weak. Be patient with everyone. 

1Th 5:15 See that no one pays back evil for evil, but always try to do good to each other and to all people. 
1Th 5:16 Always be joyful. 


1Th 5:17 Never stop praying. 


1Th 5:18 Be thankful in all circumstances, for this is God's will for you who belong to Christ Jesus.    1Th 5:19 Do not stifle the Holy Spirit. 


1Th 5:20 Do not scoff at prophecies, 


1Th 5:21 but test everything that is said. Hold on to what is good. 


1Th 5:22 Stay away from every kind of evil. 


1Th 5:23 Now may the God of peace make you holy in every way, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ comes again. 

1Th 5:24 God will make this happen, for he who calls you is faithful. 


1Th 5:25 Dear brothers and sisters, pray for us. 


1Th 5:26 Greet all the brothers and sisters with Christian love.   

1Th 5:27 I command you in the name of the Lord to read this letter to all the brothers and sisters. 


1Th 5:28 May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

[sheila]

Amen...

[anna274]

Oh rosered, I've been so "lonely"...for your posts--copiously sharing the Word with extraordinarily practical suggestions aka wisdom on how to be not only hearers but also doers of the Word.  I had been thinking about sharing my loneliness...but stopped for a few minutes to eat my lunch.  When I came back to share, I first read your replies on the Stored up for Fire thread as well as your reply on the Glory of God thread and felt a very strong, but soft and loving hand place my fingers on the keyboard.

I'm sharing on this thread because I, too, am grateful for Sheila's constant and consistent sharing of what the Lord has laid on her heart...  also appreciate eaglesway who sometimes shares very long posts and sometimes like on this thread, very brief, but all inclusive reply re: the Word explains itself.

from the Amplified Bible Version...

1 Peter 4:7-11
v 7   But the end and culmination of all things has now come near; keep sound minded and self-restrained and alert therefore for the practice of prayer.
v 8   Above all things have intense and unfailing love :HeartThrob: for one another, for love covers a multitude of sins [forgives and disregards the offenses of others].
v 9   Practice hospitality to one another (those of the household of faith).  [Be hospitable, be a lover of strangers, with brotherly affection for the UNKNOWN GUESTS, the foreigners, the poor, and all others who come your way who are of Christ's body.]  And [in each instance] do it ungrudgingly (cordially and graciously, without complaining but as representing HIM).
v 10  As each of you has received a gift (a particular spiritual talent, a gracious divine endowment), employ it for one another as [befits] good trustees of God's many-sided grace [faithful stewards of the extremely diverse powers and gifts granted to Christians by grace].
v 11  Whoever speaks, [let him do it as one who utters] oracles of God; whoever renders service, [let him do it] as with the strength which God furnishes abundantly, so that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ (the Messiah).  To Him be the GLORY and dominion forever and ever (through endless ages).  Amen (so be it).

[eaglesway]

Birth Pangs.

Shall the Lord bring to bear and not bring to birth?

The consuming of things that can be shaken involves shaking them :o)

Like ripe figs shaken of a tree the days of transition as the kingdoms of this earth  are being swallowed up by the kingdoms of our God may involve something similar to the Exodus. YHWH prepared the hearts of the Egyptians to let His people go with tribulation.

Our safety is in being "in" the tree that cannot be uprooted and "on" the rock that doesnt roll.

Meanwhile, the whole creation groans with anticipation for its restoration from futility and chaos, which will be delivered through the revelation of the children of God.

Groaning for the new birth, the birth pangs grow intense, then great relief and intense joy when the man child is born.

[rosered]

  Amen  to all  that was said , Anna  great  and timely verses sister  & John    !!    :iagree:    :HeartThrob:

[marie glen]

I'm wondering, the great deep can also refer to the heart....???

I've long thought the bottomless pit or "abyss" of Rev 9 is in the fallen heart

..that the Rev 9 abyss, is the bottomless pit of potential in the fallen heart, as in, "how low can we go"? And of course that which hinders the dream of man (world domination in the guise of "peace!") must be removed and gotten out of the way..

How low can we go? look at history.. the holocaust.. of which in last or final days, is said will be greater evil.. [which makes us/(me) want to tell clear signs to our kids, with clear instructions/commands on how (and when) to avoid]
    :girlheart:

[marie glen]

His ways are not searchable according to a pattern that man assumes God is bound to keep. There may be a pattern you cannot see yet. I don't believe Christ, for example, is going to literally kill mankind with a literal sword literally jutting out of his mouth per Revelation 19. Christ says he will judge the world with his word because he came not to destroy men's lives but to save. God is under no obligations to fulfill any prophecy according to man's perceived patterns.

...the sWord, two sided can separate in the tapestry of life, the threads of truth from the threads of error..
The sWord of God out of Jesus' mouth.. truth slays lies.. Light slays darkness
I.e, agree with Eaglesway.. :girlheart: :smile:

[marie glen]

I love the way the word explains itself if we can see it.

"And this word signifies the removal of things that are shaken until only those things which cannot be shaken remain"

This what the fire does, until God is all in all-

"These three abide, faith hope and love, but the greatest of these is love"

    :iagree:  :iagree: Also Rosered and Anna!!! Great posts! :))

[Seth]

His ways are not searchable according to a pattern that man assumes God is bound to keep. There may be a pattern you cannot see yet. I don't believe Christ, for example, is going to literally kill mankind with a literal sword literally jutting out of his mouth per Revelation 19. Christ says he will judge the world with his word because he came not to destroy men's lives but to save. God is under no obligations to fulfill any prophecy according to man's perceived patterns.

...the sWord, two sided can separate in the tapestry of life, the threads of truth from the threads of error..
The sWord of God out of Jesus' mouth.. truth slays lies.. Light slays darkness
I.e, agree with Eaglesway.. :girlheart: :smile:

Me too. The reason I brought up revelation 19 is because I do not believe that there is a physical/literal fulfillment of that scripture prophecy. in other words I do not believe Christ is going to literally put a literal sword in his mouth and go about killing humanity literally by cutting them up into pieces. I believe that scripture fully metaphorical.

[marie glen]

His ways are not searchable according to a pattern that man assumes God is bound to keep. There may be a pattern you cannot see yet. I don't believe Christ, for example, is going to literally kill mankind with a literal sword literally jutting out of his mouth per Revelation 19. Christ says he will judge the world with his word because he came not to destroy men's lives but to save. God is under no obligations to fulfill any prophecy according to man's perceived patterns.

...the sWord, two sided can separate in the tapestry of life, the threads of truth from the threads of error..
The sWord of God out of Jesus' mouth.. truth slays lies.. Light slays darkness
I.e, agree with Eaglesway.. :girlheart: :smile:

Me too. The reason I brought up revelation 19 is because I do not believe that there is a physical/literal fulfillment of that scripture prophecy. in other words I do not believe Christ is going to literally put a literal sword in his mouth and go about killing humanity literally by cutting them up into pieces. I believe that scripture fully metaphorical.

Amen! :gsmile: ...fully metaphor (imo) to describe something literal.. that what is not true can only fall/collapse, part of the large lesson mankind is learning..

I see God's 'judgment' as results and consequences of mankind's own doings.. A wise parent He is.. the sword as truth.. in that only truth can stand, and imo, this is why Apocalypse as collapse, is the full unveiling of truth from error/untruth/all babble..