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Dream Interpretation?

Started by Redkora, December 31, 2007, 05:08:45 AM

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Redkora

There are examples of dream interpretation in the Bible and almost countless other examples in other culture. However, medical science has seem to demystified dreams and Freudian and Jungian views of dreams have fallen out of favor among most psychologists. I believe it is possible for God to send dreams if he wants to, but when he does send a dream, should it still be necessary to interpret it? Given what scientists and doctors say about dreams nowdays, does anyone here believe that any dream can have meaning beyond one's brain consolidating information?

Pierac

I don't know but I sure have dream some wierd ones!   :omg:



Redkora

Tell me about it. Those dreams in which a character appears and acts completely out of character are sometimes the strangest.

firstborn888

Absolutely God gives dreams, but so does pizza!  :laughing7: The mind itself is amazing as well. I have had symbolic dreams which have helped me understand things that are SO FAR beyond my conscious intellect.
- byron

hopeful

We have so many examples in scripture where God sent dreams. The dreams that had no readily available interpretation were followed by a desire of the dreamer FOR an interpretation and an interpretation was given.

It was also prophesied by Joel that dreams would be given when God poured out His Spirit upon all flesh.

God has used dreams in my life in tremendous ways.  When it is a dream that it supposed to minister to me in some way, there is a certain "knowing" that it is from Him.

I believe any dream or any THING can have meaning if God GIVES it meaning.
I haven't felt led to delve into any sort of dream science/psychology though.

:HeartThrob:

CHB


I think God can speak through dreams and send messages but I believe the majority of dreams today are just the result from our activities of the day. If you notice, in the Bible all the dreams had to do with something great that was about to happen.

CHB

Cardinal

#6
 :cloud9: ABSOLUTELY He gives dreams. And I agree with your comment Bryan. That's EXACTLY what He has done with me. Before you go to sleep, submit yourself to His Spirit, especially your carnal mind, command it to go beneath His feet in you, as every enemy should, then watch what happens.

Our carnal mind is easier for the Spirit to bypass when we are asleep. It is His enemy, and will reason you to death, literally. Saul's name runs into a meaning of reasoning, and that is an apt description of what the carnal mind does to try to circumvent the Spirit of God in our lives.

There are also such things as night visions. He can open your eyes to see things spiritually, when you are asleep. They seem like dreams only because you are asleep, but your mind could not see this way. Most normal dreams are dimly lit; a night vision from the Spirit of God is just like you are looking outside in the noonday sun, for brilliance and clarity. Yet you are asleep.

When Paul said, whether in the body or out of the body, I know not, it was because with any true vision, awake or asleep, it is so real you are not sure if you weren't there bodily, or not. I had no one to teach me these things; the Lord had to teach me what I was experiencing and where it was in the Word. He is awesome. Blessings to all....

PS. Interpretation of dreams is also a function of the Spirit of God. What He gives, He will interpret, either to you directly, or thru someone else that gift operates in. It is part of the prophetic giftings.
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

Redkora

Wow, thanks for the awesome replies, guys! I recently had a dream in which I was standing in a place with "the noon day sun" sort of light. There were five guys standing on the edge of a brilliant green hill facing a light. The light was brilliant. The guy in the middle turned around, looked at me, and smiled as if he was happy to see me there.

Before I fell asleep that night, I submitted my flesh to God by imagining myself "putting on the armor of God," so to speak so fleshly dream stuff has a minimal (if any) chance of mucking up the message.

Cardinal

 :cloud9: Well, you pray about it, but what hit me as I read your dream, was the middle of the five fold is the evangelist portion of Christ in us. If you look at the natural hand, which is a representation of the spiritual hand of God, ie. the manifestation of Christ AS the 5 fold, this is what you see. (And green is the color of life and covering.)

Thumb = apostle. The rest are enabled and strengthened by this one.
First finger = prophet. The "pointer". It points to error, both tears down and builds up.
Middle finger = evangelist. He goes "out" farther than the rest.
Ring finger = pastor/shepherd. He is wedded to the flock.
Little finger = teacher. This is the smallest because it goes into the ear the easiest.

As He raises up this portion of who HE is in you, one of the things you may find, is Him sending you places you would not normally go, for the purpose of Him sharing what He has made life IN YOU. Blessings to you.......
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

Redkora


Kratos

One principle that I have found trustworthy is that the dreams that are given by God do not fade like those given by late night pizza. LOL. Corinthians says that the things that are seen are temporary and the things that are not seen are eternal. Spiritual things have longer life span than do natural things.

I am reminded of Mary when the prophet and prophetess spoke to her of Jesus at his presentation in the Temple on his eighth day. She hid these things in her heart until the appointed time.

When I wake up having had a very visually clear dream that does not quickly fade from my memory upon waking, I make note of it and often will share it with my wife. If like Nebechanezer, I find that several days later the dream still troubles me, I will begin to seek God for the interpretation of what He is trying to speak to me.

However, if it fades with the daylight, I don't give it any more thought.

John

Cardinal

 :cloud9: Good point, John. That's essentially what I do, too. Some there is no question at all. Some I think are Him using the soul to communicate things that need to be dealt with in that realm. Blessings to you and Happy New Year!
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

Molly

QuoteHowever, medical science has demystified dreams ...

I'm not aware that dreams have been demystified.   It could be that new information about dreams have come along, but last time I looked, they were still a mystery.

When we dream, our brain EEG looks as though we are awake, our eyes move rapidly as though we are seeing something, yet our bodies are somehow deactivated as though we are asleep (except in rare cases of sleepwalkers).    It strikes me as irony that while awake we can be more asleep than when sleeping. Oftentimes in sleep, we are awake sleepers.  Many great scientists, composers, and inventors have received that moment of clarity in a dream.   Of course people have all kinds of theories about dreams, but no one really knows why we dream, and every theory I've seen about it is not particularly compelling.  Dreaming remains a mystery.


Cardinal, a lot of people here reference the 'five-fold,' but I've never had that teaching.  Could you give me a little background in what that refers to?  Thanks.

Cardinal

 :cloud9: What He has taught me is different what most teach regarding this. I listed the 5 fold ministry portions of Christ, that we enter into thru the baptism in the Spirit of the inner court realm, above. He apportioned Himself to us, for the HG to do the works thru us, in line with the portion that was "deposited" in us on our own personal day of Pentecost. There is a lot more, but this is it in a nutshell. Blessings to you.......
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

Redkora

Quote from: Molly on January 01, 2008, 02:20:52 AM
QuoteHowever, medical science has demystified dreams ...

I'm not aware that dreams have been demystified.   It could be that new information about dreams have come along, but last time I looked, they were still a mystery.

Well, demystified as far as many in the general public are concerned. Many people think, "Well, science gives this explanation as to how things work, then there must not be any spiritual significance to it at all!"

I guess I need to change that to "seems to be demystified" in the OP.

hopeful

Quote from: Redkora on December 31, 2007, 09:44:20 PM
recently had a dream in which I was standing in a place with "the noon day sun" sort of light. There were five guys standing on the edge of a brilliant green hill facing a light. The light was brilliant. The guy in the middle turned around, looked at me, and smiled as if he was happy to see me there.

I feel excitement run through me as soon as I started reading your dream, Redkora!   :boogie:

hopeful

Quote from: Cardinal on December 31, 2007, 10:20:58 PM
Thumb = apostle. The rest are enabled and strengthened by this one.
First finger = prophet. The "pointer". It points to error, both tears down and builds up.
Middle finger = evangelist. He goes "out" farther than the rest.
Ring finger = pastor/shepherd. He is wedded to the flock.
Little finger = teacher. This is the smallest because it goes into the ear the easiest.

I was blessed by this explaination, Cardinal.  Thanks for sharing it.   :HeartThrob:

Cardinal

 :cloud9: That is something that I was blessed with about 19 years ago, when the Lord specifically told me I could listen to a man's tapes (I had been alone with the Lord for a year or more at that point, while He taught me) that were offered to me. I had refused them 6 months before, because He made it plain to me one other time that He was my teacher, when He chastised me for going in a Christian bookstore to buy some books. He wanted to lay the foundation in me, and I was wanting to take a "shortcut", LOL.

So imagine my surprise when 6 months later, He tells me to get those tapes. I did, and the Lord used them to confirm what He had taught me about the sons of God, and the spiritual application of the feasts. I was over the moon with joy, when I listened, literally crying and praising God on my living room floor, because this was the first time, I became aware that anyone, anywhere, was hearing this message from the Lord. The man's name was Peter Demetris, and he had a church in NY at that time. We serve an awesome God, ever faithful to feed us our daily bread, just when we need it, and not a minute sooner or later, but always right on time. Blessings to all......
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

hopeful

Quote from: Cardinal on January 01, 2008, 06:25:41 PM
We serve an awesome God, ever faithful to feed us our daily bread, just when we need it, and not a minute sooner or later, but always right on time. Blessings to all......

Amen!   :boogie:


Redkora

#19
Quote from: hopeful on January 01, 2008, 01:17:36 PM
Quote from: Redkora on December 31, 2007, 09:44:20 PM
recently had a dream in which I was standing in a place with "the noon day sun" sort of light. There were five guys standing on the edge of a brilliant green hill facing a light. The light was brilliant. The guy in the middle turned around, looked at me, and smiled as if he was happy to see me there.

I feel excitement run through me as soon as I started reading your dream, Redkora!   :boogie:

Wow, thanks! Edit: Umm...would you mind elaborating?  :mblush:

It's nice to come here and get confirmation on things.  :girlheart:

fire walker

#20
Some dreams do not fade no matter how many years have passed and so I have often pondered this  that many if not most of our dreams originate in the natural (carnal) mind while other dreams seem to be apart from our natural mind like they were given to us for a purpose that we may not and usualy don't understand in our natural concious mind without being given spiritual
revelation as to the sender of the message received weather carnal or spiritual.

In bringing this up there were two dreams
I had at five years old (almost 6years old) one happened while in the hospital under ether while having my tonsils removed,
the second dream was three days later while recovering at home, these two dreams are vivid in my memory after well over 60 years and have since had the connection between the two dreams revealed, to put what I dreamed into words is no problem, however to say what has been revealed to me regarding those two dreams is another thing, every man born of spirit receives revelation into spiritual things  and to quote Paul "sometimes is unlawful to speak lest we become exalted beyond measure" and possibly because it edifies no one except the one receiving the revelation pertaining to his personal walk by faith, the journey we all take as strangers passing through a foriegn land.

These two dreams very early in my day are not the only vivid dreams that have never faded  that I have had but are the earliest in my life that I can remember.

It appears God does send man messages via dreams of which the meaning may not be fully revealed for many years while other dreams originate from our carnal mind and are soon forgotten, fading away.

Peace,
Fire Walker 
If in this life only we have hope in Christ we are of all men most miserable.

                1Cr 14:19

firstborn888

Quote from: fire walker on January 02, 2008, 06:32:10 AM
one happened while in the hospital under either while having my tonsils removed,

You triggered an old memory for me FW. I had my tonsils removed at seven, and just before fading off into unconsciousness I saw two skeletons gleefully square dancing together :mshock: (no joke). I remember thinking "this is not a good sign"
- b

Redlettervoice



I was recently introduced to a man that calls himself "Snowman" on a forum of his, that is
really "good" at intrepreting dreams, probably about the best I have seen, at least what I have read. I have found myself that God intreprets mine to me, but that I need to be quite a while
and not think that I am instantly going to understand, like FW, it takes yearsl.

  There are some other things posted there on that site I'm talking about
that one would have to overlook, be still
about, and skip, but if anyone wants to know, I can give it here........or tell him to come on
over and invite folks..........whatever is God's will.

hopeful

Quote from: firstborn888 on January 02, 2008, 12:13:37 PM
I had my tonsils removed at seven, and just before fading off into unconsciousness I saw two skeletons gleefully square dancing together :mshock: (no joke). I remember thinking "this is not a good sign"
- b

:laugh2:  Turned out okay, though.  Right, bro?   :laugh2:

shibboleth

It must be wonderful to remember your dreams....I rarely do. And the few dreams I do remember are more on the nightmare side....lots of running, fear, terror, dark and dank places. I wonder what that is supposed to say about me?