The Rapture and the end of this age

[marie glen]

20 years before I was saved I was a New Age Ufologist. Even before I was saved I found out that "aliens" whatever they were, are liars and lied about everything. I even believed that if they were real aliens from outer space then humanity was in real trouble because there were no good ones. It was all deception. I gave up on the New Age movement as total lies and the aliens as more akin with the demonic. I left this all behind 20 years before I became a believer in Christ. Now I know that the alien presence are the fallen angels. They technically did come from "out there" and technically are "aliens" (not from earth but rather Heaven) but they were exiled here by God. The abduction experience is no different than visions caused by Angels in the Bible except these abductors are evil. The fallen angels still have angel powers and can cause visions, appear to walk through walls and change their appearance. But it's what they do in the mind that's so horrible. ufologists have no idea if the abductions are real or in the mind. These entities have an almost total access to the unsaved and their children and the abduction experience is generational. They do horrible things to them and seem to want to convince abductees that they are aliens come to save them and that Christ was either one of them or was a hologram or 1000 other things but who he actually is. These alien/fallen angels will say anything to undermine Christ yet Christians can stop an abduction experience dead in it's tracks in the name of Jesus Christ. They fear Jesus. There are hundreds of examples of this and it's considered the greatest secret in Ufology. No one will write about it for fear of losing their publishing and many have been told they will. Christians like Gary Bates @ alienintrusion writes and speaks on the subject. Christians need to know what's happening.

I totally agree! .. and they are the (dark) "entities" Aleister Crowley and L. Ron Hubbard did rituals to "bring through portals".. (like they're not already here aNd quite active! and they brought an entity they called "Lam" thru supposedly who they described and drew what looked a lot like the green headedm serpent eyed, popular et images, only he was grey..

[marie glen]

I have a polyester theory  (although my last name is Cotton)
I agree that the unregenerate character of man has and  will be the same from the beginning.
I have no idea what the character of person born of a woman impregnated by a Nephilim is.
I know God did not like it .
Why does the Bible mention  nine times that the end days will be like time the Nephilim,
half breeds were on the earth.

...Lot of demonic activity and influence?

[Tom]

The only thing I will say about any so called rapture is throughout the Bible God always saved his righteous from his Wrath. However he never saved his righteous from tribulation. So there is no reason to expect God to rescue anyone from any of the 2 tribulations. 1) the Tribulation and 2) the Great Tribulation. However God will save his elect from his Wrath. Most Christians have no idea what the difference is between Tribulation and Wrath because the apostate church doesn't want anyone to know.

http://concordant.org/expohtml/TheProblemOfEvil/evil026.html

[WhiteWings]

hi! It's my belief the 'church' doesn't know! I find it interesting that Jesus returns with angels and with fire..

The HS I would say.

[WhiteWings]

I have a polyester theory  (although my last name is Cotton)
I agree that the unregenerate character of man has and  will be the same from the beginning.
I have no idea what the character of person born of a woman impregnated by a Nephilim is.
I know God did not like it .
Why does the Bible mention  nine times that the end days will be like time the Nephilim,
half breeds were on the earth.

Rev 9: 2 And he opened the pit of the abyss, and smoke ascended out of the pit, like smoke of a burning fur-nace. And the sun and the air were darkened from the smoke of the pit. 3 And locusts came forth out of the smoke upon the earth, and power was given to them, like the scorpions of the earth have power.
The locusts are not insects, helicopters, etc. They are Teraphim the lowest class of the fallen angels. The Hebrew word locusts is translated from is 'arbeh' also means to lay in an ambush. The word is related to arbah which means pit, chimney or smoke hole. It's also related to the word Nephilim.

Rev 9: 7 And the likeness of the locusts was similar to horses prepared for battle. And upon their heads were like golden crowns, and their faces were as men's faces. 8 And they had hair like the hair of women, and their teeth were as of lions. 9 And they had breastplates like iron breastplates. And the sound of their wings was like the sound of chariots of many horses running into battle.
Beside that the 'locusts' have human features like angels they wear iron breastplates which is symbolic for angelic activity on earth.

Rev 9:5 And it was given them that they would not kill them, but that they would be tormented five months. And their torment was as the torment of a scorpion when it strikes a man. 6 And in those days men will seek death, and will, no, not find it. And they will long to die, and death will flee from them.
1Thess 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction comes on them, as travail on a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
In the above verse pain is translated from the same Greek word. In Hebrew counterpart also carries the meaning of labor pains. Rev 12:2 also links the Greek word to giving birth. So Rev 9:5 is about labor pains

Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness to the judgment of the great day.
The angels that married human women were chained and will be released in Rev. 9:2
Matt 24:37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall be the coming of the Son of man. 38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, till the day in which Noah entered the ark, 39 and knew not, till the flood came and took them all away: so shall be the coming of the Son of man
Who are "they"? A mistranslation from "Baal Nashim" = "Devil women" is claimed. So the devils and women eat, drink, etc. Noah lived in a valley with many Nephilim. Nephilim are the offspring of human females and fallen Teraphim. The symbol or angels is iron; that of humans is clay. Mix and the result is the return of the Nephilim.
Dan 2:43 And whereas you saw iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not join one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the middle of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured on the desolate.
He = Abaddon. Many = devils/Teraphim released from the abyss.
The "sacrifice and the oblation" obviously are the Temple sacrifices; but how can that be if there is no Temple? The Red horseman of the 2nd seal started an Edomite/Arab war which the Arabs lost. It seems the Arab forces will be totally wiped out in that war and Israel will live in peace ........

[sheila]

...thus..why twowomen grinding at themill,one taken,oneleft. twomenin a bed,one takenone left

...also..the parableofthe wheat and tares/good/evil..the tokogae[know]

  the offspring.sons ofGod..the offspring ofvipers/sonsofthedevil.......

thechildrenofthelight..thekingdomofdarkness[shroud of darkness removed from offthe people]

it would appear evident that there are twoimages in Adam...the corrupt and the divine.......

   the oneissentenced to death/everlasting destruction...the other to eternallife

andas ALLmenhave bore theimageofthecorruptibleone,so,too shall all men bear the

image oftheincorruptible one.

[sheila]

please notethat the word 'mingle' mix..is the same rootmeaning for when the sonsof God

came topresent themselves before theLord..the 'satan' entered also 'among/mingle'them

   among...inthecompany of.....[on,in+ gemang,a mingling crowd

         

[Robert Sparks]

The only thing I will say about any so called rapture is throughout the Bible God always saved his righteous from his Wrath. However he never saved his righteous from tribulation. So there is no reason to expect God to rescue anyone from any of the 2 tribulations. 1) the Tribulation and 2) the Great Tribulation. However God will save his elect from his Wrath. Most Christians have no idea what the difference is between Tribulation and Wrath because the apostate church doesn't want anyone to know.

hi! It's my belief the 'church' doesn't know! I find it interesting that Jesus returns with angels and with fire.. imo, kind of like the angels gather his elect who go 'up' (then next to Mt of Olives-Zech 14:4) but as saints go 'up', the fire goes 'down'.. that the bowls/the final consequences of man's empire(s) built on sand, are not only poured out "quickly" but are concurrent.. being that final fire of this age..

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days.. they shall see the Son of man" (manchild) "returning on the clouds.. He will send His angels to gather His elect from the four corners" (directions) "under heaven.." (from Mt 24:38-41)
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It might look just like the Exodus.
God sends Judgments but those with the Blood of the Lamb are exempt.
This is the Passover.
God didn't get the Israelites out of Egypt until he unleashed the 10 plagues on Egypt.
Then he God them out.
Should we expect the same thing in the end with NO rapture until the end?
Exodus could be a mini look at the end times.