No Salvation after death

[WhiteWings]

Hi,

being new to the room, some believe that all people will be saved regardless - is this teaching supported by the bible or from other source outside the Bible. We know that the roman catholic church is also hinting to this belief as well. just because many people have jumped onto the band wagon doesn't make it right. what is the reasoning to promote the idea that all people will be saved? Will God force, drag people to be saved even after death?

simply a fanciful notion that all will be saved... lets see what people think

regards MrLoudmouth

It's difficult to comprehend what exactly will happen.
But maybe it's easier to look at it from the classic view of the war between God and satan.
The will of God is to save all.
The will of satan is to destroy all.

In classic theology satan is the big ultimate winner. He scores at about 90% of creation.
Sounds like an odd teaching because in the Bible, especially the OT part, we see God is patient but ultimately crushes rebellion. Why not so with satan? Yeah in Revelation we read God finally totally eradicates the mess of Satan. But did God really win that war?
Take the USA as an example. Starts out with 100% a terrorist (satan) roams the  country and kill 50%. Finally Obama  starts acting and wipes out the enemy forces.  But during that war another 40% dies.
Opponent totally wiped out. America reduced to 10%. Obama won!!!!
Or not?
Firstly losing 90% can hardly be called victory.
Secondly satan's primary goal is to steal people from God. Stealing 90% isn't a bad score.
My verdict: Satan won and God is allowed to play with the scraps.

I rank the most high General a bit higher than that....

[Jock]

Well, Jesus' mission to save all of his creation, man, animals, vegetation, indeed, to reconcile all things to Himself.

Did He fail in His quest?

Jock.

[sheila]

  the rebellionis the head/mind of the serpent...that iscrushed beneath the woman's seed.heel......

  though the seed's heel[portion of body as it touches/pertains to this earthly vessel.   /flesh....

  undergo death.

due tothe lifein itself ofthis holy seed...it rises[resurrects]I AM THE RESURRECTION....this  seed

with life in itself is given unto ALLMEN  FREELY...this seed crushes andplaces beneath thefeet

   all enemies...evendeath.  So,when the last enemy death is oovercome by the seed......

andthe plagueof death is stopped at the threshing floor[O'Death I SHALL BE THY PLAGUE]

  who is victorious?. In a great war does one defeet..mean the war is lost?


   if there is no salvation after death...then Christ is not risen.. andwhoshall save usfrom

  this bodyundergoing thisdeath?  Fear notthose whocankillthe body anddonothing else.


   But hope that is seen isno hope t all. Butifwe hope forwhat we donot yet hve,wewait forit

patiently.[He who takes away allsin,God is notcounting theirtresspasses[all dead in Adam/against

them]

    He invites us to place him like a sealover our heart,like a sealover our arm......
.

   FOR LOVE IS AS STRONG AS DEATH...IT'S JEALOUSY AS UNYEILDING AS THE GRAVE.

   do you not know that he whodestroys the temple of God[man's body]  death..that

  GOD WILL DESTROY.?

   He created man for His spirit to dwell in.......if some evil spirit have another's wife...he is as

good as a dead man