The Kingdom of God

[Lazarus Short]

This may be an unconventional point of veiw. IMO, the "kingdom of heaven" is... God. Just like now He can be in you and outside of you simultaneously. Just as he is inside of time and his creation yet, at the same time outside of both. There, now it's all cleared up> :laughing7:

God is not contained in time, the universe, or His kingdom.  Remember that a kingdom consists of four things:

a King
a piece of real estate
a body of Law
subjects

Take any of the four away, and you arguably do not have a Kingdom.

[ded2daworld]

That's what I thought I said Laz - God is inside and outside his creation and time and us.
To me a kingdom is a King and subjects and that's all.

[Lazarus Short]

I thought you were saying that God is the Kingdom, period.  You at least forgot the real estate (the universe).

[Ken]

Hello Marie Glen,

This popular and misunderstood scripture does not negate the other 68 scriptures that say the exact opposite. Check out this article for a good explanation of the word "within":

http://www.ucg.org/bible-faq/kingdom-god-within-you

This article will give you a complete understanding of the Kingdom of God - and who will be selected:

http://ernestlmartin.com/kingdomofgod-firstresurrection.htm

I hope this helps.

Ken

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The Kingdom of God, is it only within? Will we be body-less?

[Eduard]

Flesh and blood will not inherit the kingdom of God. We will have spiritual bodies.

[lastpost]

As a soul learns more about Divine sacrificial Love, then that soul learns more about the Kingdom of God which is: "...far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come..."

It is not a "place" as such.

Let people joust with their words and manmade theories - if that's what they need to do. Follow Christ instead, it's generally too simple for the mind of man.

[Molly]

15Why I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love to all the saints, 16Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers; 17That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: 18The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, 19And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20Which he worked in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 21Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: 22And has put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, 23Which is his body, the fullness of him that fills all in all.   Eph 1



For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.  Rom 14




17And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject to us through your name. 18And he said to them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. 19Behold, I give to you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. ... Luke 10



And he said to them, "Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power."

--Mark 9:1

[marie glen]

"simplicity" - I think simplicity is where it's at.. a spiritual body.. and also literal fulfillment.. I can't think of this beautiful creation as some sort of mistake.. God is creating paradise and is simply building the foundation, which is full understanding in every heart and mind of what is life from death, i.e. good from evil.. and true from untrue..

The paradise He is building will be un-breakable after this all important and crucial lesson has been fully learned by all..

I believe in yield, yield, yielding unto God.. once we get to the floor of our being in yielding, we can then begin to tear up the floorboards.. It's all grace; and law mixed with grace robs the whole process (grace) of it POWER.. If we are written in God's book of predestination, it's just that too.. all God.. All His Grace and choice.. lest any could ever boast... His will is impossible to limit. "In that day He alone will be exalted" Isaiah 2:

Jes thinkin' 'out loud' :girlheart: praising God for His great wonderfulness, perfection and the utter perfection to come which is His blueprint.. what He is building and will have :smile:

"the lion will eat straw like the ox the bear will graze with the cow" Is 11:7
"His Kingdom will never end" Luke 1:33

[jabcat]

Jes thinkin' 'out loud' :girlheart: praising God for His great wonderfulness, perfection and the utter perfection to come which is His blueprint.. what He is building and will have :smile:

"the lion will eat straw like the ox the bear will graze with the cow" Is 11:7
"His Kingdom will never end" Luke 1:33

There's gonna come a day when the bear won't roar
and the lion won't scare the little lambs
All the little sheep will be sound asleep
with the lion there as their pillow on the ground

[BWST]

And he said to them, "Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power."

--Mark 9:1

My understanding is this passage is referring to Pentacost, when the Holy Spirit was given.  The kingdom of God has come, but has not been consumated - that will happen in the age to come.  Bear with me, still regurgitating my reformed theology - but for now, it still makes sense to me.

[jbertonbounds]

And he said to them, "Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power."

--Mark 9:1

My understanding is this passage is referring to Pentacost, when the Holy Spirit was given.  The kingdom of God has come, but has not been consumated - that will happen in the age to come.  Bear with me, still regurgitating my reformed theology - but for now, it still makes sense to me.

Exactly! UR makes sense! :thumbsup:

[WhiteWings]

Bear with me, still regurgitating my reformed theology - but for now, it still makes sense to me.

Never apologize for being an honest truth searcher!
:thumbsup:

[marie glen]

And he said to them, "Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power."

--Mark 9:1

My understanding is this passage is referring to Pentacost, when the Holy Spirit was given.  The kingdom of God has come, but has not been consumated - that will happen in the age to come.  Bear with me, still regurgitating my reformed theology - but for now, it still makes sense to me.

aWeSoMe!! I never thought of that! I have always thought the next verses.. "six days later He and two went to the Mount of Transfiguration".... >"and then they saw, He alone.."

Have thought this to be "seeing the kingdom come with power" but I can see the "with power" most definitely describes "Pentecost"...
..thanks! I like having a (much) better understanding of it! :smile: