Are there instructions for Angels is the bible

[dajomaco]

Grace and peace to you from[g] the One who is, who was, and who is coming; from the seven spirits[h] before His throne; 5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead and the ruler of the kings of the earth.

What does it mean the one who is coming from the seven spirits?

He had seven stars in His right hand

The seven stars are the angels[y] of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands[z] are the seven churches.

Write to the angel[a] of the church in Ephesus:
"Write to the angel of the church in Smyrna:
Write to the angel of the church in Pergamum:
Write to the angel of the church in Thyatira:
Write to the angel of the church in Sardis:
Write to the angel of the church in Philadelphia:
Write to the angel of the church in Laodicea:

There are seven individual angels each individual angel is represented by an individual star
Each message is directed to be given to the Angel of each church.
How much of each message is for the individuals in each church?
How much the message is for each angel of the church?
Do the angels have any responsibility for the church they represent.   

[Ken]

Hello dajomaco,

Actually, there is quite a lot of information on angels. These articles should answer all of your questions:

http://www.googlesyndicatedsearch.com/u/ASK?sitesearch=askelm.com&q=angels&sa=Google+Search

Ken

[dajomaco]

No I am not asking if there is information about angels.

Are there instructions or warnings that are written in the Bible  for all created beings

[Molly]

Good question.  I think it has to do with the Holy Spirit and with this group that are contained within/distributed by the Holy Spirit.


And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;
--Isa 11:2

[Molly]

John to the seven churches that are in Asia: Grace to you and peace, from him who is and who was and who is to come; and from the seven Spirits that are before his throne;

5 and from Jesus Christ, [who is] the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loveth us, and loosed us from our sins by his blood;

--Rev 1

[Ken]

Hello Dajomaco,

Perhaps this one article will answer all of your questions?



Ken

No I am not asking if there is information about angels.

Are there instructions or warnings that are written in the Bible  for all created beings

[rosered]

Hi Dajomaco 

What does it mean the one who is coming from the seven spirits?

For me    it    Its our Lord Jesus Christ  who is the Lamb of God /pure sacrifice and   the chief Stone of the corner /our foundation , whom the builder rejected    Our Rock Jesus /solid and true
  all are titles   for His name and  the works   plus many many more   as the good shepard / our master as we are His sheep , physician / heal us  and make us well

Zec 3:9 For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone [shall be] seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.
Rev 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.


Rev 4:5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and [there were] seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.


   if you read how Jesus   is described here   in the old and  new , both witness to the same things
     in Daniels vision and in Johns      His eyes are described  as lamps of fire  , all is discriptive language   and      the lamps   light the lampstands [ of the seven churches ]  as a memorah , all   things are seen as a temple pattern   that God has designed     from the begining to the end 
the  3   outer court , inner court and Holy of Holies    , this is  found  in every one called of God  , you are the temple of the Living God  , He dwells with you /us  , its His Holy Spirit  and the Lord Jesus Christ  whom raised us from the dead , back to Life again

, I see this as very  personal   and very  inward , many do not and thats ok ,   but Jesus Himself says the Kingdom of God is within you     and Paul by revelation   spoke   that you are the temple of the living God ,   so I will never   listen to another    , my mind is set  ,

as God   the Almighty  by His Spirit[Holy One ] and truth [Jesus Christ the Word of God  made flesh]     has    won    conquered    this enemy is  now  reconciled with God though Christ   and  a child of the King and   at his feet , teaching me   to listen to what the Spirit is saying as the Living Word  and Spirit    move and  breath  new  life   within me / us    , many who know exactly what I am saying    today  :HeartThrob:

Dan 10:6 His body also [was] like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.


Rev 19:12 His eyes [were] as a flame of fire, and on his head [were] many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
  there lots in the descriptions that go perfectly with   other scriptures in the Word , by the Spirit teaching us to listen and behave  :dsunny:

[rosered]

 
  Hi  Dajo,


here is   some more  , when studying the   7 churches in Asia   ,    I find all the answers in the Word of God  , it a written Word  [history  ]   and Spoken Word  / Jesus Christ the Son of Gpod and all the witnnesses ]   and Living Word  , when the Holy Spirit   , Father and the Son  dwell and show us the hidden things     that no man knows , Only whom the   Father chooses to  make His  Light /knowledge of Him Shine in

All the Book is prophecy     by the Spirit of Prophecy  / Jesus Christ testimony

  when God made two great Lights to rule the day   and night ,  the Day is Jesus Christ shining as the Sun / SON OF GOD    , hear Him
  and moses  is the   night the moon ,   the dim light in the darkness   on occasion  / full moons

  and  the stars are the messengers  /angels   with     the Light  of Christ [annoiting  in them ]   the oil of the Holy Spirit   , lest they be messengers of satan and they are false lights  , fallen from grace

   

  here we see in Daniel    and His Vision ,,,,   those awaking    from the dead    and us too

Dan 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
this is Jesus the sevenfold SUN     in Joshua

Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance [was] as the sun shineth in his strength.

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:


  this is  the  true church of Christ Body  with  Israel included all gathered into Him  , the 12 stars /  twelve gates of the HOLY City on her head , in Josephs dream [ joseph a type of Christ even back than ]   allergory    the moon is  she overcome by the law of moses   , to be  of the  Day / Christ     describing the 12 tribes in Rev 21 


  and this part    the  7 angels /stars     in Asia    they accompanied Paul an apostle/ 12 foundations   of the City    to the gentiles  /nations




Acts  20;4

And there accompanied him into Asia 1)Sopater of Berea; and of the Thessalonians, 2)Aristarchus and3) Secundus; and 4)Gaius of Derbe, and 5)Timotheus; and of Asia, 6)Tychicus and 7)Trophimus.

Sopater = "saviour of his father"

1) the son of Pyrhus of Berea, a companion of Paul

Aristarchus = "the best ruler"

1) a certain Christian of Thessalonica, and accompanied Paul on his third missionary journey

Secundus = "fortunate"

1) a Thessalonian Christian

Gaius = "lord"

1) a Macedonian who accompanied Paul in his travels

2) a man from Derbe who went with Paul from Corinth in his last journey to Jerusalem

3) a man of Corinth who was his host in his second sojourn in that city

4) an unknown Christian to whom John's third epistle is addressed

Timothy = "honouring God"

1) a resident of Lystra, apparently, whose father was a Greek and mother a Jewess; he was Paul's travelling companion and fellow labourer

Tychicus = "fateful"

1) an Asiatic Christian, friend and companion of the apostle Paul

Trophimus = "nutritious"

1) an Ephesian Christian, and friend of the apostle Paul


There is always more , but stopping  here  , I hope this helps you as it has me    :friendstu:

[micah7:9]

The Lord God uses messengers and instructs. We all on this sight are so rock solid about the proper use and meaning of "hell" "forever" "everlasting" but will not or cannot get out the thinking of what "angels" are. Just by using the word "angels" instead of the proper meaning-definition "messengers"(by implication a pastor:) puts an entire different mindset.
When one today considers angels, look at what man's imagination has produced for what we think about what or who they are.
Heb 1:13  And unto which of the messengers said He ever, `Sit at My right hand, till I may make thine enemies thy footstool?'
Heb 1:14  are they not all spirits of service--for ministration being sent forth because of those about to inherit salvation?

Rev 3:1  And to the messenger of the assembly in Sardis write:

This of course is only how I have begun to understand.  :HeartThrob:

[rosered]

The Lord God uses messengers and instructs. We all on this sight are so rock solid about the proper use and meaning of "hell" "forever" "everlasting" but will not or cannot get out the thinking of what "angels" are. Just by using the word "angels" instead of the proper meaning-definition "messengers"(by implication a pastor:) puts an entire different mindset.
When one today considers angels, look at what man's imagination has produced for what we think about what or who they are.
Heb 1:13  And unto which of the messengers said He ever, `Sit at My right hand, till I may make thine enemies thy footstool?'
Heb 1:14  are they not all spirits of service--for ministration being sent forth because of those about to inherit salvation?

Rev 3:1  And to the messenger of the assembly in Sardis write:

This of course is only how I have begun to understand.  :HeartThrob:

:dsunny:

As I also Micah !! :thumbsup:

[sheila]

no matter how you look at it,you can't disregard whaat is in the sciptures aabout super-natural messengers,either. He is the ruler of heaven

and earth.  Now,when Jesus was speaking about the children of the resurrection..He said..they are 'like" the angels..the children of God.

   so yes, Holy spirit can send men as messengers, but it's not an either/or type thing...God also has the LIBERTY to send a supernatural messenger,also.

[micah7:9]

no matter how you look at it,you can't disregard whaat is in the sciptures aabout super-natural messengers,either. He is the ruler of heaven

and earth.  Now,when Jesus was speaking about the children of the resurrection..He said..they are 'like" the angels..the children of God.

   so yes, Holy spirit can send men as messengers, but it's not an either/or type thing...God also has the LIBERTY to send a supernatural messenger,also.

What is a "supernatural messenger"?

[rosered]

no matter how you look at it,you can't disregard whaat is in the sciptures aabout super-natural messengers,either. He is the ruler of heaven

and earth.  Now,when Jesus was speaking about the children of the resurrection..He said..they are 'like" the angels..the children of God.

   so yes, Holy spirit can send men as messengers, but it's not an either/or type thing...God also has the LIBERTY to send a supernatural messenger,also.

Hi Shelia , 

   Yes in the sense they are spirits and not of the earthly realm
But its God whom sets the course , We know its the Lord  whom  allows these spirits messengers   to fulfill His own purpose   , we are also as messengers of God  or satan

  the seven eyes of understanding  in Christ / the   One Stone

if the light/knowledge of God  be in you , your body is full of light  , but if the light be darkness , how great is that darkness , Jesus shows us this     

Luk 11:34 The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light; but when [thine eye] is evil, thy body also [is] full of darkness.



Mat 6:23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great [is] that darkness!


Paul is speaking of the healing  of Jesus Christ   , eyes to see  ears to hear and heart to understand what the Spirit of the Living God is saying 


Act 26:18 To open their eyes, [and] to turn [them] from darkness to light, and [from] the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.





Luk 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

2Cr 11:13   For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.



2Cr 11:14   And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.  




2Cr 11:15   Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. 




  God has declared to  Pharoah in Ezek 32

EZEK32;7  And when I shall put thee out, I will cover the heaven, and make the stars thereof dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give her light.


Rev 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.


Rev 8:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
I see this as prophecy    John  speaks of the same things Daniel saw in His vision

Dan 8:10 And it waxed great, [even] to the host of heaven; and it cast down [some] of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.  
 

[sheila]

they call them angels..they appeared to the shepherds in the feild..to Peter,Paul..Mary,Elizabeth..and many many others as tesified to,in the scriptures

  one ascended in a fire. John the baptists Father was struck dumb when he encountered one in the temple,until the birth of John.

     the book of revelation was given by an angel of the Lord to John. Rev 1;1  The revelation of Jesus Christ,which God gave him,to show his servants

    what must soon take place. HE MADE IT KNOWN BY SENDING HIS ANGEL TO HIS SERVANT JOHN.

[micah7:9]

Luk 1:11  And there appeared to him a messenger of the Lord standing on the right side of the altar of the perfume,
Luk 1:12  and Zacharias, having seen, was troubled, and fear fell on him;
Luk 1:13  and the messenger said unto him, `Fear not, Zacharias, for thy supplication was heard, and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear a son to thee, and thou shalt call his name John,
Act 7:38  `This is he who was in the assembly in the wilderness, with the messenger who is speaking to him in the mount Sinai, and with our fathers who did receive the living oracles to give to us;
Rev 1:1  A revelation of Jesus Christ, that God gave to him, to shew to his servants what things it behoveth to come to pass quickly; and he did signify it , having sent through his messenger to his servant John

[sheila]

 Let me see if I understand you right,are you saying there are no super-natural angels?  Let's not beat around the bush.

[rosered]

For me John also    recieved revelation  , like Paul  from the Lord Jesus Christ Himself and all those witnesses   He comes in the clouds of Glory  , it was Christ speaking though  whom ever He sends    , we  could also be one in the number ,   just what I see in His Word ,         those gathered into   Him already 

This is just by Jesus saying I have sent mine angel/ Paul was sent to Asia     to the churches

he also has  the Spirit of prophecy in  him [testimony of Jesus ]   as do all whom are gathered into Christ Jesus , the voices from Above   

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star.


Rev 19:1 ¶ And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: 

Rev 19:6   And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.


Rev 19:9   And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed [are] they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. 

Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See [thou do it] not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
Rev 22:8 And I John saw these things, and heard [them]. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.

Rev 22:9   Then saith he unto me, See [thou do it] not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.


   Its whatever you believe   ,  I believe   that all gathered into Christ have the same Voice and message and  glorified state  , by the Spirit and truth    found in them 

:HeartThrob:

[micah7:9]

I'm saying that when the Lord God uses or sends His message is out from His glory/power, His Spirit brings forth a messenger. For me that messenger may be a burning bush, an ass, a man/men, a voice, a dove.
I personally am not fond of the word super natural, God is Spirit and it is by/through His Spirit a thing is accomplished. :HeartThrob:

[sheila]

if someone wants/prefers the term messenger instead of angel,fine..and if he also see's man as messengers of God fine. But to deny super-natural

messengers akaa angels is an error.

  thus,in my post I said it's not either/or..to the exclusion of .

    . alright..that answers my question,Micah.  no celestial angels,right. that's what I thought you were getting at.

     which is an error as far as I can see.

[sheila]

2 Peter 2;10-12 and Jude 8-10

[rosered]

2 Peter 2;10-12 and Jude 8-10

  Well as you know , I never said that sis , they are    the holy saints and holy ones , given a celestial body  =Christs body !  but they , being some ,may still be covered in clay  :laughing7:

[micah7:9]

if someone wants/prefers the term messenger instead of angel,fine..and if he also see's man as messengers of God fine. But to deny super-natural

messengers akaa angels is an error.

  thus,in my post I said it's not either/or..to the exclusion of .

    . alright..that answers my question,Micah.  no celestial angels,right. that's what I thought you were getting at.

     which is an error as far as I can see.

But there are heavenly[celestial](lofty) messengers, as far as I am concerned that means all messengers are heavenly  and are Spirit.

"if someone wants/prefers the term messenger instead of angel,fine..." with that thought then there is no sense in defining hell as Gehena or the grave, pit, or Hades. Or forever, everlasting as aionian.
My reason, the definition of a word ignites the mind as to what it will consider it to be.  And the word angel produces a whole different picture in man's thinking. Yeah my opinion.

2Pe 2:10  and chiefly those going behind the flesh in desire of uncleanness, and lordship despising; presumptuous, self-complacent, dignities they are not afraid to speak evil of,
2Pe 2:11  whereas messengers, in strength and power being greater, do not bear against them before the Lord an evil speaking judgment;
2Pe 2:12  and these, as irrational natural beasts, made to be caught and destroyed--in what things they are ignorant of, speaking evil--in their destruction shall be destroyed,
Jud 1:8  In like manner, nevertheless, those dreaming also the flesh indeed do defile, and lordship they put away, and dignities they speak evil of,
Jud 1:9  yet Michael, the chief messenger, when, with the devil contending, he was disputing about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring up an evil-speaking judgment, but said, `The Lord rebuke thee!'
Jud 1:10  and these, as many things indeed as they have not known, they speak evil of; and as many things as naturally (as the irrational beasts) they understand, in these they are corrupted;

Angel: 3) a conventional image of a white robed figure in human form with wings and a halo. 4) a person regarded as being as beautiful, good, innocent, etc. as an angel

[rosered]

When one today considers angels, look at what man's imagination has produced for what we think about what or who they are.

I agreed with Micah here because there is a    imaginary      that man has worshipped angels  , man has  created  though his mind   cherubs  , little  fat baby cheeks and   winged  people   , that   many bow down to in   churches and  have lockets with certain saints pictures on them 

all matter of  idolatry  , I never meant to   cause you trouble

I am just seeing things  in Gods Word I never saw before

and  I do not doubt that the      Jesus returning in the clouds of  witnesses   in Glory are   a simple and very beautiful     thing!    just as the above  post  blessed me   may it you also     :girlheart:

[micah7:9]

Thank you, very nice. i do not seek trouble either, but there are so many obstacles to overcome that have been establish by religion and it's false and erroneous teaching.i truly believe if we as believers continue to seek in spirit and truth, tossing aside established beliefs, about things that are not what they claim they are, our growth will mature to full stature. :HeartThrob:

[sheila]

 so now the term 'angel" is anethema? From now on.......some-one that uses the term angel  is wrong..and should use  messenger..and further more

there should be no distinction between a man messenger or celestial messenger..and lets not use the term super-natural anymore,either?

             by the way,my brother gave me an angel figurine musicbox that plays amazing grace aas a gift years ago. and my freind a plaque

for a prayer for God to have His angels keep me...is that idolatry too.?