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VineBranch

Quote from: One Male on February 06, 2013, 04:14:50 PM
Do scriptures not say, seek and ye shall find, knock and it will be opened to you?
Yes they do.

Regards
DL

The place in the Old Testament in which that phrase appears is in Jeremiah:  "Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and I will hearken unto you. And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart." (Jer 29:12-13)

I think it behooves us to note that God says, first we pray, and then He listens, and then we seek Him.  After He has revealed Himself as existing, then we can go and seek and find Him.  First He has to tell us He is, and that we are to go look for Him, and then He has to tell us where to look.  Otherwise where would we look, it is best to seek Him where He may be found.

The New Testament uses the phrasing a few times, but, the only time Christ actually says anything about seeking Him specifically (and not a general encouragement), He says this:  "Ye shall seek me, and shall not find me: and where I am, thither ye cannot come." (Joh 7:34)

May I encourage you to please keep verses in context, IMO the ones you mentioned actually say the opposite of what you imply they do.




VineBranch

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Quote from: One Male on February 06, 2013, 05:11:49 PM
Do you dare to, be as Gods, in knowing good and evil.
God's own words of A & E.
Regards
DL

Could you reference that.  I just read the story of The Fall, and didn't come across the part where God said that?  Could you show me where it is?

VineBranch

Quote from: One Male on February 06, 2013, 04:57:46 PM
Can a teacher teach if the pupil refuses to learn?
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DL

Easily!! Any teacher worth their salt can bypass any student's refusal to learn.  They simply teach.  Teaching and learning are not somehow like two sides of a coin.  They are two different creatures, as far apart as reading is from writing.  Refusing to learn is unnatural to a child.  Refusing to learn about the Father, in my experience, has never been accomplished by anyone who loves Him.

dajomaco

By this will of God, we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once and for all.

I reread my post, and this sort of caught my attention

For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are sanctified.

Blind fools! For which is greater, the gold or the sanctuary that sanctified the gold?


By this will of God, we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once and for all.


VineBranch

Quote from: dajomaco on February 07, 2013, 06:31:49 AM
By this will of God, we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once and for all.

I reread my post, and this sort of caught my attention

For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are sanctified.

Blind fools! For which is greater, the gold or the sanctuary that sanctified the gold?


By this will of God, we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once and for all.

K(?!)

Molly

Quote from: dajomaco on February 07, 2013, 06:31:49 AM
By this will of God, we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once and for all.

I reread my post, and this sort of caught my attention

For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are sanctified.

Blind fools! For which is greater, the gold or the sanctuary that sanctified the gold?


By this will of God, we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once and for all.

Yep.  And, those he has justified, he will glorify.  That's why the only important factor for perfection is relationship with him.