FORGIVE EVERYONE EVERYTHING

Started by seekfirst, December 27, 2012, 05:04:10 PM

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seekfirst

First thing I do after my breakfast is go down to the common area to check/read the daily newspapers.  Usually there are 4-5 in disarray--today only one The Free Press (Mankato, MN) neatly folded showing in huge bold print the headline FORGIVE EVERYONE EVERYTHING


The whole front page was dedicated to the commemoration activities of the 150th anniversary of the mass hangings of 38 Dakota/Lakota Indians (Dec 26, 1862)  the largest mass execution in US history.

Theme:  Reconciliation
Location:  Reconciliation Park, Mankato


first quote:  "Today, being here to witness a great gathering we have peace in our hearts--a new beginning of healing."

bits and pieces:

pain, suffering, guilt, innocence on both sides... events portrayed as violent, dark, life-ending...

both cultures had attitudes that led to actions that honored and dishonored their cultures...

Prayer:  ... asks for humility, understanding, knowledge...   lessons learned to be remembered everyday, not just once a year, but every day!

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This very secular newspaper printed/reported so much spiritual food for meditation, praise, ... just wanted to share this with others who know and experience the forgiveness provided by Jesus' blood shed on the cross...

ded2daworld

That was great seekfirst
One of the hardest things to do(IMO) is to FORGIVE EVERYONE, EVERYTHING. - but isn't that what was done for us?

sheila

well, that's a double wittness as far as I can see. That's a fig tree branch putting forth tender branches

  and bearing fruit. A sure sign of the son of man.  Forgiveness of all is Atonement.  Love keeps

no record of the wrong[because all wrongs are forgiven in Love] Love covers over many sins[a fig leaf]

lomarah

Wow, that was beautiful. Thank you for sharing that.  :HeartThrob:

sheila

  It is a poultice made of the fruit of the fig tree that heals from the effects of sin.   Hezekiah's illness

  Hezekiah became ill[sinsick] and was at the point of death.'Isaaih went to him and said,'put your house in order

  because you are going to die you will not recover...........

   I have heard your prayer and seen your tears....I will heal you.........

   ON THE THIRD DAY FROM NOW YOU WILL GO UP TO THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD...............

      THEN ISAAIH SAID  'PREPARE A POULTICE OF FIGS"  They did so and applied it to the boil and

    HE RECOVERED....Forgiveness[Jesus fruit of fig tree]

   Hezekiah had asked...what will be the sign that I will go up to the temple of the Lord in three days?

  Isaaih answered...'Shall the shadow go forward ten steps or shall it go backward ten steps?

   Hezekiah said..............Rather have it go back ten steps.   Joshua 10;13...so the sun stood still and moon

stopped til the nation avenged itself on it's enemy[overcome].darkness driven backwards

   the plague of the kingdom of darkness covering the land as the shadow of death...and   see the wicked

ways of darkness that King Ahaz worked................

sheila

SOS 2;10  My lover spoke and said to me,'Arise My Darling, my beautiful one,and come with me.

  See! The winter is past[if they do these things when the tree is green what shall they do when it is dry]

   the rains are over and gone. Flowers appear on the earth, the season of singing has come,

  the cooing of doves is heard in our land.  THE FIG TREE FORMS IT'S EARLY FRUIT, THE BLOSSOMING

  VINES SPREAD IT'S FRAGRANCE.  ARISE,COME MY DARLING,MY BEAUTIFUL ONE

            COME WITH ME.

sheila

  and ..thank you   for your sharing,too.   Breaking bread togather in the Lord.....is such a Blessing :HeartThrob:

lomarah

Quote from: sheila on December 27, 2012, 06:22:19 PM
SOS 2;10  My lover spoke and said to me,'Arise My Darling, my beautiful one,and come with me.

  See! The winter is past[if they do these things when the tree is green what shall they do when it is dry]

   the rains are over and gone. Flowers appear on the earth, the season of singing has come,

  the cooing of doves is heard in our land.  THE FIG TREE FORMS IT'S EARLY FRUIT, THE BLOSSOMING

  VINES SPREAD IT'S FRAGRANCE.  ARISE,COME MY DARLING,MY BEAUTIFUL ONE

            COME WITH ME.

I love SOS it always brings me to tears.  :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob:

Ross

We are to forgive others as God has forgiven us.
We are also only to cast the first stone if we are without sin ourself.
We are also to take the plank from our own eye before trying to remove the speck from a brother/sister's eye.
Then knowing that Christ has taken away the sins of the world should also help to show that the others are forgiven too, just do not know that YET.
This seems to be a time of learning for some to see the right/wrong difference thing. Good vs evil with the outcome being that man will become like God with the resurrection to postions of sons/daughters of God.
Very much what Paul is talking about to the Galations about being under a temporary guardian until coming of age. Just each in their own turn.
Hence forgiving other because we know they too are to be raised to a postive future. This life is only temporary, while the things not yet seen are eternal.
Fellow brother in Christ

ded2daworld

Now you have gone too far with your "being like Jesus says" you fanatical christian.
Don't make me get up out of my E-Z chair. :punish: :laugh:

Lazarus Short

Quote from: lomarah on December 27, 2012, 09:16:59 PM
Quote from: sheila on December 27, 2012, 06:22:19 PM
SOS 2;10  My lover spoke and said to me,'Arise My Darling, my beautiful one,and come with me.

  See! The winter is past[if they do these things when the tree is green what shall they do when it is dry]

   the rains are over and gone. Flowers appear on the earth, the season of singing has come,

  the cooing of doves is heard in our land.  THE FIG TREE FORMS IT'S EARLY FRUIT, THE BLOSSOMING

  VINES SPREAD IT'S FRAGRANCE.  ARISE,COME MY DARLING,MY BEAUTIFUL ONE

            COME WITH ME.

I love SOS it always brings me to tears.  :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob:

Since you love the Song of Songs so much, let me ask you - have you ever read it in the Ferrar Fenton Version?  Fenton aimed to know the Hebrew so well that he could read it as easily as his daily newspaper.  He decided that the Song of Songs must have been a wedding-day drama, and consequently he translated it in dramatic form.  It works, and the language is beautiful.  More than that, I am beginning to suspect that Fenton did not have a "Hell" bias is his translating, but I am only now starting to verify that...more later.
Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

YHVH = Behold the Nail, Behold the Hand = Jesus

lomarah

No and I've never even heard of that version before. I'll have to google it. Thanks!

Ross

We know we have passed from death to life because we love the brethren.
Love keeps no record of wrongs.
Love bears all things.
Love endures all things.
This is a demonstration of being In Christ, the hope of all glory.
Fellow brother in Christ

sheila

 we can become 'spotted' before the Lord..when we do not forgive men that tresspass against us.

   Jesus told His disciples...you Must forgive those who tresspass against you.  Routinely

searching our minds and hearts to see if there is anything that we are holding against

another..and then releasing it..and feeling the cleansing that comes with it,sanctifies us.

   for if you do not forgive those who tresspass aginst you,neither will your Father forgive you.

bighunk

Yes we should forgive everyone EVERYTHING.  And lift BANS on people, especially great ones like marcmarc....Ooft the big handsome beast that he is!  :eek:


bighunk

Lol!  I couldn't resist, but if the mods tell me to go I WILL go this time.  They wont even need to ban me.
I just thought it was unfair.   :dontknow:  So I found a perfectly 'legal; way to get back on the forums.... The Lord works in mysterious ways!

bighunk

Aw Sheila, i never even got a chance to talk with you the last time i was on here, i was friendofmankind on here a few years back.  How are you, missed you!  Missed sparrow too but not seen her around for a long time.

sheila

Right!  He made that vessel of wrath over..into a Big Hunk of Love!!!!


   I'm fine.....

bighunk

Quote from: sheila on February 16, 2013, 03:17:47 AM
Right!  He made that vessel of wrath over..into a Big Hunk of Love!!!!


   I'm fine.....

Lol!!!  I've got the hucka, hucka burning love tonight Sheila!   :banana: ...Well at least until up until i get banned again...which cant be long now...

Lazarus Short

Why don't you behave, and not get banned, and stay around this time, ya big galoot?
Socrates taught Plato.  Plato taught Aristotle.  Aristotle tutored the son of Philip of Macedon.  This boy grew up to become Alexander the Great, largely by slaughtering a lot of people.  That's philosophy.

Jesus spoke the Truth.  He blessed the poor.  He healed the sick.  He even raised the dead.  He died on a cross for us, lived again, and came back long enough to tell us to love one another.  That's religion.

YHVH = Behold the Nail, Behold the Hand = Jesus

jesusloves

Quote from: Lazarus Short on February 16, 2013, 04:58:24 AM
Why don't you behave, and not get banned, and stay around this time, ya big galoot?

Id have got banned either way.  Someone on here just has it in for me big time...and hes being very unreasonable.

VineBranch

"If you say 'go' then i will go and i really wont be back (as fun as coming in the forums by other means is) ..." (marcmarc lives, Reply # 2)

"Id have got banned either way.  Someone on here just has it in for me big time...and hes being very unreasonable." (marcmarc returning as jesusloves.)  (FORGIVE EVERYONE EVERYTHING, Reply #21)

Deb2daworld asked you to leave.  You came back under yet another pseudonym.  Your honor lies in tatters about your feet.  Your call.

anna274

Quote from: Ross on December 28, 2012, 08:01:44 AM
We are to forgive others as God has forgiven us.
We are also only to cast the first stone if we are without sin ourself.
We are also to take the plank from our own eye before trying to remove the speck from a brother/sister's eye.
Then knowing that Christ has taken away the sins of the world should also help to show that the others are forgiven too, just do not know that YET.
This seems to be a time of learning for some to see the right/wrong difference thing. Good vs evil with the outcome being that man will become like God with the resurrection to postions of sons/daughters of God.
Very much what Paul is talking about to the Galations about being under a temporary guardian until coming of age. Just each in their own turn.
Hence forgiving other because we know they too are to be raised to a postive future. This life is only temporary, while the things not yet seen are eternal.

Ross, in reviewing this thread because I found a hymn that speaks to forgiving everyone everything, I read again your very beautiful, scriptural reply and was challenged--in a very productive way--to see less of the speck in others' and ask forgiveness for the plank (s) in my own eyes.  Thanks!!!

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REMEMBER CHRIST, OUR SAVIOR   Smith, 1991

Remember Christ, our Savior
Who paid the debts you owed
To God the heavenly Father
And to you mercy showed,
When others sin against you
Be ready to forgive.
Since you have been forgiven
With them in peace now live.

Go first to find your brother,
Your sister or your friend.
Do not reveal to others
The hurt you need to mend.
Confront in humble spirit
The one whose sin caused pain
That he might seek forgiveness
And you a friend regain.

When bitter anger tempts you
To nurse your broken heart
With brooding thoughts of hatred
And vows of vengeance start.
Pray to the Lord of Pardon
For power to release
Each selfish act against you
That rage might in you cease.

O Father, Son, and Spirit
Who lift from us sin's burden
And from its debt set free.
Grant us the will to pardon
All those who us offend.

Ross

Hi anna274;
I realise this has been a long time since your last post. I also realise that our Father has everything in a master plan and works to a different timetable to us. So this is probably meant to be a blessing for you if you do indeed read this.
Christ paid the price for us all.
Phil 2;5-8 " You should have the same attitude toward one another that Christ Jesus had, Who though he existed in the form of God did not regard equality with God as something to be grasped, but emptied himself by taking on the form of a slave, and was made in the likeness of men;
and being found in fashion as man He humbled Himself and became obedient to death, even the death of the cross."

Christ displayed how we should love others more than we love oursellf.
Knowing that Christ paid our price in full inspres focussing on the coming ages and releases from the bondage of the law.
All this seems to be saying how we should love our Father more than this world/age. For the things to come are of such awesome magnitude that the things of this age are only a preparation for the coming glory. For we shall be LIKE HIM for He WILL transform our lowly bodies into the likeness of His glorious body by the power that enable Him to subject ALL things to Himself.
Fellow brother in Christ