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WhiteWings

1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

micah7:9


WhiteWings

I'll give you eyes to see Micah!  :laughing7:


ACVJohn 5
1 After these things there was a feast of the Jews, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
2 Now there is in Jerusalem by the place pertaining to sheep, a pool, which is called in Hebrew Bethesda, having five porches.
3 In these lay a great multitude of those who are feeble, blind, lame, withered, waiting for the movement of the water.
4 For a heavenly agent went down at a certain time into the pool, and agitated the water. Therefore the first man who stepped in after the agitation of the water became well from whatever affliction he had.
5 And a certain man was there who was thirty-eight years in the weakness.
6 When Jesus saw this man laying down, and knew that he fares now a long time, he says to him, Do thou desire to become well?
7 The infirmed man answered him, Sir, I have no man so that when the water is agitated he might put me into the pool, but while I am coming another steps down before me.
8 Jesus says to him, Arise, take up thy bed and walk.
9 And straightaway the man became well, and took up his bed and walked. Now it was Sabbath on that day.
10 The Jews therefore said to the man who was cured, It is Sabbath. It is not permitted for thee to take up the bed.
11 He answered them, The man who made me well, that man said to me, Take up thy bed and walk.
12 Therefore they asked him, Who is the man who said to thee, Take up thy bed and walk?
13 But the man who was healed had not known who he is, for Jesus withdrew, a multitude being in the place.
14 After these things Jesus finds him in the temple, and said to him, Behold, thou have become well. Sin no more, lest something worse may happen to thee.
15 The man departed and reported to the Jews that Jesus is the man who made him well.
16 And because of this the Jews persecuted Jesus, and sought to kill him, because he did these things on a Sabbath.
17 But Jesus answered them, My Father works until now and I work.
18 Because of this therefore the Jews sought even more to kill him, because not only did he relax the Sabbath, but also he called God his own Father, making himself equal to God.
19 Jesus therefore answered and said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of himself, except what he sees the Father doing. For whatever he may do, the Son also does these things in like manner.
20 For the Father loves the Son, and shows him all things that he himself does. And he will show him works greater works than these, so that ye may marvel.
21 For as the Father raises up the dead and makes alive, so also the Son makes alive whom he will.


Read everything for some context.
The red verses show Father works/heals on Sabbath. Right now.
The blue verse shows that was common knowledge because they seem to agree Father works on Sabbath and that Father is God and not Joseph.
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1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

micah7:9

Jesus IS THE SABBATH! :grin:

eaglesway

Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2011, 02:20:42 AM
Am I any less accepted or righteous if I was created as opposed to being formed?

Lol exactly!   I think we are getting carried away with semantics here. God uses multiple words to describe many things, and a simple concordance study on the word created would certainly validate its own use in relationship to man and the kosmos in its entirety and in every form.
The Logos is complete, but it is not completely understood. http://www.hell-is-a-myth.webs.com/