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Quote from: rosered on June 07, 2011, 06:41:33 PMthis is good but believe  the fiery Law  shoots out of Gods Mouth and nostrils /anger  :2c:   God is a consuming FIRE
But that fire certainly isn't always anger.

ACVActs 2
1 And while fulfilling the day of Pentecost, they were all together at the same place.
2 And suddenly there developed a sound from the sky as of a forceful wind/breath moving, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting.
3 And there appeared to them dividing tongues, as of fire, and they settled upon each one of them.
4 And they were all filled of Holy Spirit, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them to declare.




QuotePsa 18:15 Then the channels of waters were seen, and the foundations of the world were discovered at thy rebuke, O LORD, at the blast of the breath of thy nostrils.

2Th 2:8   And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 

Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

Psa 57:4 My soul [is] among lions: [and] I lie [even among] them that are set on fire, [even] the sons of men, whose teeth [are] spears and arrows, and their tongue a sharp sword.
Isa 66:16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
just for consideration  :HeartThrob:
I'm busy considering RoseY :thumbsup:
Speculation: Enemies can be destroyed by military means. But also by submitting them to the law. Once they see/believe the law they are no longer enemies but friends (in Christ).
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

thinktank

Quote from: rosered on June 07, 2011, 06:41:33 PM
    this is good but believe  the fiery Law  shoots out of Gods Mouth and nostrils /anger  :2c:   God is a consuming FIRE

Psa 18:15 Then the channels of waters were seen, and the foundations of the world were discovered at thy rebuke, O LORD, at the blast of the breath of thy nostrils.


2Th 2:8   And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 

Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.


Psa 57:4 My soul [is] among lions: [and] I lie [even among] them that are set on fire, [even] the sons of men, whose teeth [are] spears and arrows, and their tongue a sharp sword.
Isa 66:16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.
just for consideration  :HeartThrob:

Good stuff wings, have not fully processed it yet, don't know if it's full truth as such, but interesting nevertheless.

It's interesting Rose that the majesty of the horse, is to blast it's nostrils as it charges towards the enemy.


rosered

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:  To you both TT AND WW 

out of his nostrils  , not always  anger AGREED ! :HeartThrob:


Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

nostrils Strong's H639 - 'aph 1) nostril, nose, face   :happygrin:TO SHINE /LIGHT

2) anger    :talkangry:  wrath of man that does not work the righteouness of God maybe ??Why Jesus come to show us better

when Jesus breathed on his disciples / students   they recieved the HOLY SPIRIT /GHOST 

1Cr 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit.

And when he had said this, he breathed on [them], and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: 


Jhn 20:23   Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; [and] whose soever [sins] ye retain, they are retained. 
:HeartThrob:
Jesus is the reward  !!

WhiteWings

Quote from: rosered on June 07, 2011, 06:41:33 PM
    this is good but believe  the fiery Law  shoots out of Gods Mouth and nostrils /anger  :2c:   God is a consuming FIRE
Mmmz, I wonder if anger is a Holy quality? If not then God isn't capable of anger..... :dontknow:

What if His anger/fire/stream of brimstone from Gods mouth/nostrils is simply another word for the law.
He judges/speaks judgement/applies the fire-law.
:dontknow:
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Cardinal

 :cloud9: I've felt HIS anger raise up in me one time. It was startling, because I felt it, like, leap up within me, because "I" personally, was NOT angry. But He was and it was because a family member was trying to both aggravate me, AND more importantly, turn someone else away from belief in Jesus as the Messiah, by extolling the "virtues" of Confuscious, Ghandi, Buddha, ect. as also having "wisdom".

That's when I felt the "leap", and He spoke out of my mouth, "But all those men are DEAD, Jesus is alive!" And I had a very bad feeling that person was about to get some stripes if they didn't heed what He said and repent. My  :2c:
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor


rosered

Quote from: WhiteWings on June 08, 2011, 10:07:42 AM
Quote from: rosered on June 07, 2011, 06:41:33 PM
    this is good but believe  the fiery Law  shoots out of Gods Mouth and nostrils /anger  :2c:   God is a consuming FIRE
Mmmz, I wonder if anger is a Holy quality? If not then God isn't capable of anger..... :dontknow:

What if His anger/fire/stream of brimstone from Gods mouth/nostrils is simply another word for the law.
He judges/speaks judgement/applies the fire-law.
:dontknow:
I so see your point WW , the Fiery Law is a standard  to be obeyed for thier /our own good  , obedience is better than sacrifice , Jesus Christ the Lamb of God did this one for all times  , it is enough for God   
But God does and Jesus does have righteous indignation , hate evil and we are too in ourselves and in others  , look at the harm it does to the innocent  all the time
  some examples  of Gods indignation / righteous / just / chastening of the Lord  humbling

Deu 29:28 And the LORD rooted them out of their land in anger, and in wrath, and in great indignation, and cast them into another land, as [it is] this day.
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Job 10:17 Thou renewest thy witnesses against me, and increasest thine indignation upon me; changes and war [are] against me.
Psa 69:24 Pour out thine indignation upon them, and let thy wrathful anger take hold of them.
Psa 78:49 He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels [among them].
Psa 102:10 Because of thine indignation and thy wrath: for thou hast lifted me up, and cast me down.
Isa 10:5 O Assyrian, the rod of mine anger, and the staff in their hand is mine indignation.
Isa 10:25 For yet a very little while, and the indignation shall cease, and mine anger in their destruction.

Isa 26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
Isa 30:27 Behold, the name of the LORD cometh from far, burning [with] his anger, and the burden [thereof is] heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his tongue as a devouring fire:


Isa 30:30 And the LORD shall cause his glorious voice to be heard, and shall shew the lighting down of his arm, with the indignation of [his] anger, and [with] the flame of a devouring fire, [with] scattering, and tempest, and hailstones.


Isa 34:2 For the indignation of the LORD [is] upon all nations, and [his] fury upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter.


Isa 66:14 And when ye see [this], your heart shall rejoice, and your bones shall flourish like an herb: and the hand of the LORD shall be known toward his servants, and [his] indignation toward his enemies.
Jer 10:10 But the LORD [is] the true God, he [is] the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.
Jer 15:17 I sat not in the assembly of the mockers, nor rejoiced; I sat alone because of thy hand: for thou hast filled me with indignation.
Jer 50:25 The LORD hath opened his armoury, and hath brought forth the weapons of his indignation: for this [is] the work of the Lord GOD of hosts in the land of the Chaldeans.
Lam 2:6 And he hath violently taken away his tabernacle, as [if it were of] a garden: he hath destroyed his places of the assembly: the LORD hath caused the solemn feasts and sabbaths to be forgotten in Zion, and hath despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest.
Eze 21:31 And I will pour out mine indignation upon thee, I will blow against thee in the fire of my wrath, and deliver thee into the hand of brutish men, [and] skilful to destroy.
Eze 22:24 Son of man, say unto her, Thou [art] the land that is not cleansed, nor rained upon in the day of indignation.
Eze 22:31 Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have consumed them with the fire of my wrath: their own way have I recompensed upon their heads, saith the Lord GOD.
Dan 8:19 And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end [shall be].

Jesus is the reward  !!

WhiteWings

It was just a thought. Your verses seem to say otherwise. But looking at the original language it's perhaps slightly different.
Again we see storm/raging and nostril. That could be read as breath or (heavy) breathing.
And as we saw before His breath is a stream of fire or brimstone. And that links to the fire-law.
Just a thought :winkgrin:

indignation of [his] anger


Indignation
זעף
za‛aph
BDB Definition:
1) rage, raging, storming, indignation
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong's Number: from H2196
Same Word by TWOT Number: 569a


anger

אף
'aph
BDB Definition:
1) nostril, nose, face
2) anger
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong's Number: from H599
Same Word by TWOT Number: 133a
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Molly

#58
Quote from: wwWhat if His anger/fire/stream of brimstone from Gods mouth/nostrils is simply another word for the law.
He judges/speaks judgement/applies the fire-law.

Yes.  I think it might be more appropriate to say this is how he looks to those who are behind the veil--an angry God.  So when they try to emulate him or take his place they, too, become angry, controlling, and repressive.

Whereas we know him as the happy God because of Christ Jesus-- :icon_king:


1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

--Rom 8



70.1 Timothy 1:11
According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.

rosered

Quote from: WhiteWings on June 08, 2011, 04:28:39 PM
It was just a thought. Your verses seem to say otherwise. But looking at the original language it's perhaps slightly different.
Again we see storm/raging and nostril. That could be read as breath or (heavy) breathing.
And as we saw before His breath is a stream of fire or brimstone. And that links to the fire-law.
Just a thought :winkgrin:

indignation of [his] anger


Indignation
זעף
za‛aph
BDB Definition:
1) rage, raging, storming, indignation
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong's Number: from H2196
Same Word by TWOT Number: 569a


anger

אף
'aph
BDB Definition:
1) nostril, nose, face
2) anger
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong's Number: from H599
Same Word by TWOT Number: 133a
I can see that    fiery LAw /  His breath / God is a consuming Fire



Deu 33:2 And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand [went] a fiery law for them.  

Deu 4:24 For the LORD thy God [is] a consuming fire, [even] a jealous God.


Deu 9:3 Understand therefore this day, that the LORD thy God [is] he which goeth over before thee; [as] a consuming fire he shall destroy them,

and he shall bring them down before thy face: so shalt thou drive them out, and destroy them quickly, as the LORD hath said unto thee.

Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
Hbr 12:29 For our God [is] a consuming fire.

this fire  for the enemies , but  clearly his offspring in Christ  can dwell in the FIRE safely   examples

  Dan   the 3 children  in the firey furnace 
Dan 3:21 Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their [other] garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

Dan 3:25   He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.    and Isa 33:14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?   :HeartThrob:
Jesus is the reward  !!

pneuma

My  :2c:

Isaiah 30:33
For, arranged from former time is Tophet, Even it for the king is prepared, He hath made deep, He hath made large, Its pile [is] fire and much wood, The breath of Jehovah, As a stream of brim stone, is burning in it!

Within God's breath brimstone burns. So to understand brimstone we must understand Gods breath.

It comes from the Hebrew word n\eshamah which is rooted in the Hebrew word nasham which means to destroy but also carries the weight of a woman in travail.

In Genesis 2:7 it is called the BREATH OF LIFE

When God breathed the BREATH OF LIFE into MAN He was birthing Christ within man and destroying the old man.

We know that He/God will magnify and sanctify Himself by fire and brimstone Eze.38:22-23.

And we know that fire and brimstone IS the second death Rev.21:8.

So by these thing we know the fire and brimstone IS of God and is not strange fire or any other kind of fire, it is God Himself and His breath of life which is our inheritance which inheritance is the birthing/manifestation of Jesus Christ IN us.

Now herein is the time of the harvest.

Matthew 3:11-12
11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner/barn; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

The time of the harvest is the baptism of the Holy Ghost and fire, and it is by this baptism of fire that throughly purges his floor and gathers the wheat into the garner and burns up the chaff.

So what happens to man when God breathes the breath of life into man?

The breath of life which is the birth of Christ within us produces a CROSS.

rosered



  Great point Pneuma  , the Breath of God !!  the baptism
     Holy Spirit and of Fire  :thumbsup:  the old man of sin , son of perdition / loss / destruction


For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way.
   
2Th 2:8   And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming


Matthew 3:11-12
11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner/barn; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.


comparing  chaff as ungodly  men as to the Breath of God /Wind

Psa 1:4 The ungodly [are] not so: but [are] like the chaff which the wind driveth away.


Psa 35:5 Let them be as chaff before the wind: and let the angel of the LORD chase [them].


Isa 5:24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, [so] their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust:

because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.
:HeartThrob:
Jesus is the reward  !!

WhiteWings

Quote from: rosered on June 08, 2011, 04:52:28 PM
I can see that    fiery LAw /  His breath / God is a consuming Fire
Is it more exact to say not God but His law is a consuming fire?
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

rosered

Quote from: WhiteWings on June 08, 2011, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: rosered on June 08, 2011, 04:52:28 PM
I can see that    fiery LAw /  His breath / God is a consuming Fire
Is it more exact to say not God but His law is a consuming fire?
Hi Ww  , It says God is a consuming Fire     :HeartThrob:
Jesus is the reward  !!

pneuma

Quote from: rosered on June 08, 2011, 05:38:35 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on June 08, 2011, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: rosered on June 08, 2011, 04:52:28 PM
I can see that    fiery LAw /  His breath / God is a consuming Fire
Is it more exact to say not God but His law is a consuming fire?
Hi Ww  , It says God is a consuming Fire     :HeartThrob:

But God is not apart from His law, as it is something He lives by.

WhiteWings

Quote from: rosered on June 08, 2011, 05:38:35 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on June 08, 2011, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: rosered on June 08, 2011, 04:52:28 PM
I can see that    fiery LAw /  His breath / God is a consuming Fire
Is it more exact to say not God but His law is a consuming fire?
Hi Ww  , It says God is a consuming Fire     :HeartThrob:
RoseY, I wasn't trying to say the verse is wrong. It was more about what exactly it means.
Scott's answer seems just what I was looking for.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

micah7:9

Quote from: pneuma on June 08, 2011, 04:54:53 PM
My  :2c:

Isaiah 30:33
For, arranged from former time is Tophet, Even it for the king is prepared, He hath made deep, He hath made large, Its pile [is] fire and much wood, The breath of Jehovah, As a stream of brim stone, is burning in it!

Within God's breath brimstone burns. So to understand brimstone we must understand Gods breath.

It comes from the Hebrew word n\eshamah which is rooted in the Hebrew word nasham which means to destroy but also carries the weight of a woman in travail.

In Genesis 2:7 it is called the BREATH OF LIFE

When God breathed the BREATH OF LIFE into MAN He was birthing Christ within man and destroying the old man.

We know that He/God will magnify and sanctify Himself by fire and brimstone Eze.38:22-23.

And we know that fire and brimstone IS the second death Rev.21:8.

So by these thing we know the fire and brimstone IS of God and is not strange fire or any other kind of fire, it is God Himself and His breath of life which is our inheritance which inheritance is the birthing/manifestation of Jesus Christ IN us.

Now herein is the time of the harvest.

Matthew 3:11-12
11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner/barn; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

The time of the harvest is the baptism of the Holy Ghost and fire, and it is by this baptism of fire that throughly purges his floor and gathers the wheat into the garner and burns up the chaff.

So what happens to man when God breathes the breath of life into man?

The breath of life which is the birth of Christ within us produces a CROSS.

Please explain your statements about "breath"  "brimstone." 
Also "When God breathed the BREATH OF LIFE into MAN He was birthing Christ within man and destroying the old man."
"So by these thing we know the fire and brimstone IS of God and is not strange fire or any other kind of fire, it is God Himself and His breath of life which is our inheritance which inheritance is the birthing/manifestation of Jesus Christ IN us."

Here I am totally lost again..."The time of the harvest is the baptism of the Holy Ghost and fire, and it is by this baptism of fire that throughly purges his floor and gathers the wheat into the garner and burns up the chaff.

So what happens to man when God breathes the breath of life into man?

The breath of life which is the birth of Christ within us produces a CROSS.

pneuma

QuotePlease explain your statements about "breath" "brimstone."

Scriptures state God breath is a stream of brimstone.

Also "When God breathed the BREATH OF LIFE into MAN He was birthing Christ within man and destroying the old man."

"So by these thing we know the fire and brimstone IS of God and is not strange fire or any other kind of fire, it is God Himself and His breath of life which is our inheritance which inheritance is the birthing/manifestation of Jesus Christ IN us."


When you look up the word breath It comes from the Hebrew word n\eshamah which is rooted in the Hebrew word nasham which means to destroy but also carries the weight of a woman in travail.


QuoteHere I am totally lost again..."The time of the harvest is the baptism of the Holy Ghost and fire, and it is by this baptism of fire that throughly purges his floor and gathers the wheat into the garner and burns up the chaff.

The breath of LIFE is the birth of Christ in us, the Holy Ghost is the manifestation of the birth. Think of it this way, the breath of God plants the seed, the seed grows in the womb until the time of travailing, once the time of travailing is past, the manchild is manifest.

So what happens to man when God breathes the breath of life into man?

The breath of life which is the birth of Christ within us produces a CROSS.


It is at this time God sets before man the choice of life and death. But I cannot elaborate on this point as it is a banned topic.

micah7:9

"When you look up the word breath It comes from the Hebrew word n\eshamah which is rooted in the Hebrew word nasham which means to destroy but also carries the weight of a woman in travail." Please elaborate I have not found your definition>

"The breath of LIFE is the birth of Christ in us, the Holy Ghost is the manifestation of the birth. Think of it this way, the breath of God plants the seed, the seed grows in the womb until the time of travailing, once the time of travailing is past, the manchild is manifest." Again, please help me to understand. "The breath of LIFE is the birth of Christ in us,.." where is this taught in the Bible?

pneuma

"When you look up the word breath It comes from the Hebrew word n\eshamah which is rooted in the Hebrew word nasham which means to destroy but also carries the weight of a woman in travail."

QuotePlease elaborate I have not found your definition>

5397  { nesh-aw-maw'}

from 5395; TWOT - 1433a; n f

AV - breath 17, blast 3, spirit 2, inspiration 1, souls 1; 24

GK - 5972 { hm;v;nÒ
1)   breath, spirit
1a)   breath (of God)
1b)   breath (of man)
1c)   every breathing thing
1d)   spirit (of man)

Rooted in

5395  { naw-sham'}

a primitive root; TWOT - 1433; v

AV - destroy 1; 1

GK - 5971 { µv'n:
1)   to pant
1a)   (Qal) to pant
1a1)   of a woman in travail or labour


QuoteAgain, please help me to understand. "The breath of LIFE is the birth of Christ in us,.." where is this taught in the Bible?

Just look at the two Hebrew words I have given. Also what else gives LIFE, but Christ within us.

WhiteWings

Micah,
You have to be aware that what's translated as breath does not always have the same underlaying Hebrew word.

ACVGenesis 2
7 And LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul.
נשׁמה
neshâmâh

BDB Definition:
1) breath, spirit
1a) breath (of God)
1b) breath (of man)
1c) every breathing thing
1d) spirit (of man)
Part of Speech: noun feminine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong's Number: from H5395
Same Word by TWOT Number: 1433a

נשׁם
nâsham

BDB Definition:
1) to pant
1a) (Qal) to pant
1a1) of a woman in travail or labour
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by BDB/Strong's Number: a primitive root
Same Word by TWOT Number: 1433


ACVGenesis 6
17 And I, behold, I bring the flood of waters upon this earth, to destroy all flesh, in which is the breath of life, from under heaven. Everything that is on the earth shall die.

רוּח
rûach

BDB Definition:
1) wind, breath, mind, spirit
1a) breath
1b) wind
1b1) of heaven
1b2) quarter (of wind), side
1b3) breath of air
1b4) air, gas
1b5) vain, empty thing
1c) spirit (as that which breathes quickly in animation or agitation)
1c1) spirit, animation, vivacity, vigour
1c2) courage
1c3) temper, anger
1c4) impatience, patience
1c5) spirit, disposition (as troubled, bitter, discontented)
1c6) disposition (of various kinds), unaccountable or uncontrollable impulse
1c7) prophetic spirit
1d) spirit (of the living, breathing being in man and animals)
1d1) as gift, preserved by God, God's spirit, departing at death, disembodied being
1e) spirit (as seat of emotion)
1e1) desire
1e2) sorrow, trouble
1f) spirit
1f1) as seat or organ of mental acts
1f2) rarely of the will
1f3) as seat especially of moral character
1g) Spirit of God, the third person of the triune God, the Holy Spirit, coequal, coeternal with the Father and the Son
1g1) as inspiring ecstatic state of prophecy
1g2) as impelling prophet to utter instruction or warning
1g3) imparting warlike energy and executive and administrative power
1g4) as endowing men with various gifts
1g5) as energy of life
1g6) as manifest in the Shekinah glory
1g7) never referred to as a depersonalized force
Part of Speech: noun feminine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong's Number: from H7306
Same Word by TWOT Number: 2131a

רוּח
rûach

BDB Definition:
1) (Hiphil) to smell, scent, perceive odour, accept
1a) of horse
1b) of delight (metaphorically)
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by BDB/Strong's Number: a primitive root
Same Word by TWOT Number: 2131


All verses that use the same Hebrew word as Genesis 2:7
Gen 2:7
Gen 3:19
Gen 7:22
Gen 19:1
Gen 24:47
Gen 27:45
Gen 30:2
Gen 39:19
Gen 42:6
Gen 44:18
Gen 48:12
Gen 49:6
Gen 49:7
Exod 4:14
Exod 11:8
Exod 15:8
Exod 22:24
Exod 32:10
Exod 32:11
Exod 32:12
Exod 32:19
Exod 32:22
Exod 34:6
Num 11:1
Num 11:10
Num 11:20
Num 11:33
Num 12:9
Num 14:18
Num 22:22
Num 22:27
Num 22:31
Num 24:10
Num 25:3
Num 25:4
Num 32:10
Num 32:13
Num 32:14
Deut 6:15
Deut 7:4
Deut 9:19
Deut 11:17
Deut 13:17
Deut 29:20
Deut 29:23
Deut 29:24
Deut 29:27
Deut 29:28
Deut 31:17
Deut 32:22
Deut 33:10
Josh 7:1
Josh 7:26
Josh 23:16
Judg 2:14
Judg 2:20
Judg 3:8
Judg 6:39
Judg 9:30
Judg 10:7
Judg 14:19
1Sam 1:5
1Sam 11:6
1Sam 17:28
1Sam 20:30
1Sam 20:34
1Sam 20:41
1Sam 24:8
1Sam 25:23
1Sam 25:41
1Sam 28:14
1Sam 28:18
2Sam 6:7
2Sam 12:5
2Sam 14:4
2Sam 14:33
2Sam 18:28
2Sam 22:9
2Sam 22:16
2Sam 24:1
2Sam 24:20
1Kgs 1:23
1Kgs 1:31
2Kgs 13:3
2Kgs 19:28
2Kgs 23:26
2Kgs 24:20
1Chr 13:10
1Chr 21:21
2Chr 7:3
2Chr 12:12
2Chr 20:18
2Chr 25:10
2Chr 25:15
2Chr 28:11
2Chr 28:13
2Chr 29:10
2Chr 30:8
Ezra 8:22
Ezra 10:14
Neh 8:6
Neh 9:17
Job 4:9
Job 9:5
Job 9:13
Job 14:13
Job 16:9
Job 18:4
Job 19:11
Job 20:23
Job 20:28
Job 21:17
Job 27:3
Job 32:2
Job 32:3
Job 32:5
Job 35:15
Job 36:13
Job 40:11
Job 40:24
Job 41:2
Job 42:7
Ps 2:5
Ps 2:12
Ps 6:1
Ps 7:6
Ps 10:4
Ps 18:8
Ps 18:15
Ps 21:9
Ps 27:9
Ps 30:5
Ps 37:8
Ps 55:3
Ps 56:7
Ps 69:24
Ps 74:1
Ps 76:7
Ps 77:9
Ps 78:21
Ps 78:31
Ps 78:38
Ps 78:49
Ps 78:50
Ps 85:3
Ps 85:5
Ps 86:15
Ps 90:7
Ps 90:11
Ps 95:11
Ps 103:8
Ps 106:40
Ps 110:5
Ps 115:6
Ps 124:3
Ps 138:7
Ps 145:8
Prov 11:22
Prov 14:17
Prov 14:29
Prov 15:1
Prov 15:18
Prov 16:32
Prov 19:11
Prov 21:14
Prov 22:24
Prov 24:18
Prov 25:15
Prov 27:4
Prov 29:8
Prov 29:22
Prov 30:33
Song 7:4
Song 7:8
Isa 2:22
Isa 3:21
Isa 5:25
Isa 7:4
Isa 9:12
Isa 9:17
Isa 9:21
Isa 10:4
Isa 10:5
Isa 10:25
Isa 12:1
Isa 13:3
Isa 13:9
Isa 13:13
Isa 14:6
Isa 30:27
Isa 30:30
Isa 37:29
Isa 42:25
Isa 48:9
Isa 49:23
Isa 63:3
Isa 63:6
Isa 65:5
Isa 66:15
Jer 2:35
Jer 4:8
Jer 4:26
Jer 7:20
Jer 10:24
Jer 12:13
Jer 15:14
Jer 15:15
Jer 17:4
Jer 18:23
Jer 21:5
Jer 23:20
Jer 25:37
Jer 25:38
Jer 30:24
Jer 32:31
Jer 32:37
Jer 33:5
Jer 36:7
Jer 42:18
Jer 44:6
Jer 49:37
Jer 51:45
Jer 52:3
Lam 1:12
Lam 2:1
Lam 2:3
Lam 2:6
Lam 2:21
Lam 2:22
Lam 3:43
Lam 3:66
Lam 4:11
Lam 4:20
Ezek 5:13
Ezek 5:15
Ezek 7:3
Ezek 7:8
Ezek 8:17
Ezek 13:13
Ezek 16:12
Ezek 20:8
Ezek 20:21
Ezek 22:20
Ezek 23:25
Ezek 25:14
Ezek 35:11
Ezek 38:18
Ezek 43:8
Dan 9:16
Dan 11:20
Hos 8:5
Hos 11:9
Hos 13:11
Hos 14:4
Joel 2:13
Amos 1:11
Amos 4:10
Jonah 3:9
Jonah 4:2
Mic 5:15
Mic 7:18
Nah 1:3
Nah 1:6
Hab 3:8
Hab 3:12
Zeph 2:2
Zeph 2:3
Zeph 3:8
Zech 10:3


All verses that use the same Hebrew word as Genesis 6:17
Gen 1:2
Gen 3:8
Gen 6:3
Gen 6:17
Gen 7:15
Gen 7:22
Gen 8:1
Gen 26:35
Gen 41:8
Gen 41:38
Gen 45:27
Exod 6:9
Exod 10:13
Exod 10:19
Exod 14:21
Exod 15:8
Exod 15:10
Exod 28:3
Exod 31:3
Exod 35:21
Exod 35:31
Num 5:14
Num 5:30
Num 11:17
Num 11:25
Num 11:26
Num 11:29
Num 11:31
Num 14:24
Num 16:22
Num 24:2
Num 27:16
Num 27:18
Deut 2:30
Deut 34:9
Josh 2:11
Josh 5:1
Judg 3:10
Judg 6:34
Judg 8:3
Judg 9:23
Judg 11:29
Judg 13:25
Judg 14:6
Judg 14:19
Judg 15:14
Judg 15:19
1Sam 1:15
1Sam 10:6
1Sam 10:10
1Sam 11:6
1Sam 16:13
1Sam 16:14
1Sam 16:15
1Sam 16:16
1Sam 16:23
1Sam 18:10
1Sam 19:9
1Sam 19:20
1Sam 19:23
1Sam 30:12
2Sam 22:11
2Sam 22:16
2Sam 23:2
1Kgs 10:5
1Kgs 18:12
1Kgs 18:45
1Kgs 19:11
1Kgs 21:5
1Kgs 22:21
1Kgs 22:22
1Kgs 22:23
1Kgs 22:24
2Kgs 2:9
2Kgs 2:15
2Kgs 2:16
2Kgs 3:17
2Kgs 19:7
1Chr 5:26
1Chr 9:24
1Chr 12:18
1Chr 28:12
2Chr 9:4
2Chr 15:1
2Chr 18:20
2Chr 18:21
2Chr 18:22
2Chr 18:23
2Chr 20:14
2Chr 21:16
2Chr 24:20
2Chr 36:22
Ezra 1:1
Ezra 1:5
Neh 9:20
Neh 9:30
Job 1:19
Job 4:9
Job 4:15
Job 6:4
Job 6:26
Job 7:7
Job 7:11
Job 8:2
Job 9:18
Job 10:12
Job 12:10
Job 15:2
Job 15:13
Job 15:30
Job 16:3
Job 17:1
Job 19:17
Job 20:3
Job 21:4
Job 21:18
Job 26:13
Job 27:3
Job 28:25
Job 30:15
Job 30:22
Job 32:8
Job 32:18
Job 33:4
Job 34:14
Job 37:21
Job 41:16
Ps 1:4
Ps 11:6
Ps 18:10
Ps 18:15
Ps 18:42
Ps 31:5
Ps 32:2
Ps 33:6
Ps 34:18
Ps 35:5
Ps 48:7
Ps 51:10
Ps 51:11
Ps 51:12
Ps 51:17
Ps 55:8
Ps 76:12
Ps 77:3
Ps 77:6
Ps 78:8
Ps 78:39
Ps 83:13
Ps 103:16
Ps 104:3
Ps 104:4
Ps 104:29
Ps 104:30
Ps 106:33
Ps 107:25
Ps 135:7
Ps 135:17
Ps 139:7
Ps 142:3
Ps 143:4
Ps 143:7
Ps 143:10
Ps 146:4
Ps 147:18
Ps 148:8
Prov 1:23
Prov 11:13
Prov 11:29
Prov 14:29
Prov 15:4
Prov 15:13
Prov 16:2
Prov 16:18
Prov 16:19
Prov 16:32
Prov 17:22
Prov 17:27
Prov 18:14
Prov 25:14
Prov 25:23
Prov 25:28
Prov 27:16
Prov 29:11
Prov 29:23
Prov 30:4
Eccl 1:6
Eccl 1:14
Eccl 1:17
Eccl 2:11
Eccl 2:17
Eccl 2:26
Eccl 3:19
Eccl 3:21
Eccl 4:4
Eccl 4:6
Eccl 4:16
Eccl 5:16
Eccl 6:9
Eccl 7:8
Eccl 7:9
Eccl 8:8
Eccl 10:4
Eccl 11:4
Eccl 11:5
Eccl 12:7
Isa 4:4
Isa 7:2
Isa 11:2
Isa 11:4
Isa 11:15
Isa 17:13
Isa 19:3
Isa 19:14
Isa 25:4
Isa 26:9
Isa 26:18
Isa 27:8
Isa 28:6
Isa 29:10
Isa 29:24
Isa 30:1
Isa 30:28
Isa 31:3
Isa 32:2
Isa 32:15
Isa 33:11
Isa 34:16
Isa 37:7
Isa 38:16
Isa 40:7
Isa 40:13
Isa 41:16
Isa 41:29
Isa 42:1
Isa 42:5
Isa 44:3
Isa 48:16
Isa 54:6
Isa 57:13
Isa 57:15
Isa 57:16
Isa 59:19
Isa 59:21
Isa 61:1
Isa 61:3
Isa 63:10
Isa 63:11
Isa 63:14
Isa 64:6
Isa 65:14
Isa 66:2
Jer 2:24
Jer 4:11
Jer 4:12
Jer 5:13
Jer 10:13
Jer 10:14
Jer 13:24
Jer 14:6
Jer 18:17
Jer 22:22
Jer 49:32
Jer 49:36
Jer 51:1
Jer 51:11
Jer 51:16
Jer 51:17
Jer 52:23
Lam 4:20
Ezek 1:4
Ezek 1:12
Ezek 1:20
Ezek 1:21
Ezek 2:2
Ezek 3:12
Ezek 3:14
Ezek 3:24
Ezek 5:2
Ezek 5:10
Ezek 5:12
Ezek 8:3
Ezek 10:17
Ezek 11:1
Ezek 11:5
Ezek 11:19
Ezek 11:24
Ezek 12:14
Ezek 13:3
Ezek 13:11
Ezek 13:13
Ezek 17:10
Ezek 17:21
Ezek 18:31
Ezek 19:12
Ezek 20:32
Ezek 21:7
Ezek 27:26
Ezek 36:26
Ezek 36:27
Ezek 37:1
Ezek 37:5
Ezek 37:6
Ezek 37:8
Ezek 37:9
Ezek 37:10
Ezek 37:14
Ezek 39:29
Ezek 42:16
Ezek 42:17
Ezek 42:18
Ezek 42:19
Ezek 42:20
Ezek 43:5
Dan 2:1
Dan 2:3
Dan 8:8
Dan 11:4
Hos 4:12
Hos 4:19
Hos 5:4
Hos 8:7
Hos 9:7
Hos 12:1
Hos 13:15
Joel 2:28
Joel 2:29
Amos 4:13
Jonah 1:4
Jonah 4:8
Mic 2:7
Mic 2:11
Mic 3:8
Hab 1:11
Hab 2:19
Hag 1:14
Hag 2:5
Zech 2:6
Zech 4:6
Zech 5:9
Zech 6:5
Zech 6:8
Zech 7:12
Zech 12:1
Zech 12:10
Zech 13:2
Mal 2:15
Mal 2:16
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

micah7:9

Quote from: pneuma on June 08, 2011, 04:54:53 PM
My  :2c:

Isaiah 30:33
For, arranged from former time is Tophet, Even it for the king is prepared, He hath made deep, He hath made large, Its pile [is] fire and much wood, The breath of Jehovah, As a stream of brim stone, is burning in it!

Within God's breath brimstone burns. So to understand brimstone we must understand Gods breath.

It comes from the Hebrew word n\eshamah which is rooted in the Hebrew word nasham which means to destroy but also carries the weight of a woman in travail.

In Genesis 2:7 it is called the BREATH OF LIFE

When God breathed the BREATH OF LIFE into MAN He was birthing Christ within man and destroying the old man.

We know that He/God will magnify and sanctify Himself by fire and brimstone Eze.38:22-23.

And we know that fire and brimstone IS the second death Rev.21:8.

So by these thing we know the fire and brimstone IS of God and is not strange fire or any other kind of fire, it is God Himself and His breath of life which is our inheritance which inheritance is the birthing/manifestation of Jesus Christ IN us.

Now herein is the time of the harvest.

Matthew 3:11-12
11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner/barn; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

The time of the harvest is the baptism of the Holy Ghost and fire, and it is by this baptism of fire that throughly purges his floor and gathers the wheat into the garner and burns up the chaff.

So what happens to man when God breathes the breath of life into man?

The breath of life which is the birth of Christ within us produces a CROSS.

BRIMSTONE in Revelation  G2303  theion  Probably neuter of G2304 (in its original sense of flashing); sulphur: - brimstone.
G2304  theios   From G2316; godlike (neuter as noun, divinity): - divine, godhead.
G2316   theos    Of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with G3588) the supreme Divinity; figuratively a magistrate; by Hebraism very: - X exceeding, God, god [-ly, -ward].
Sulfur aka Brimstone is used for purififing.

Origin of SULFUR

Middle English sulphur brimstone, from Latin sulpur, sulphur, sulfur
First Known Use: 14th century

pneuma

Quote from: micah7:9 on June 08, 2011, 07:48:15 PM
Quote from: pneuma on June 08, 2011, 04:54:53 PM
My  :2c:

Isaiah 30:33
For, arranged from former time is Tophet, Even it for the king is prepared, He hath made deep, He hath made large, Its pile [is] fire and much wood, The breath of Jehovah, As a stream of brim stone, is burning in it!

Within God's breath brimstone burns. So to understand brimstone we must understand Gods breath.

It comes from the Hebrew word n\eshamah which is rooted in the Hebrew word nasham which means to destroy but also carries the weight of a woman in travail.

In Genesis 2:7 it is called the BREATH OF LIFE

When God breathed the BREATH OF LIFE into MAN He was birthing Christ within man and destroying the old man.

We know that He/God will magnify and sanctify Himself by fire and brimstone Eze.38:22-23.

And we know that fire and brimstone IS the second death Rev.21:8.

So by these thing we know the fire and brimstone IS of God and is not strange fire or any other kind of fire, it is God Himself and His breath of life which is our inheritance which inheritance is the birthing/manifestation of Jesus Christ IN us.

Now herein is the time of the harvest.

Matthew 3:11-12
11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner/barn; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

The time of the harvest is the baptism of the Holy Ghost and fire, and it is by this baptism of fire that throughly purges his floor and gathers the wheat into the garner and burns up the chaff.

So what happens to man when God breathes the breath of life into man?

The breath of life which is the birth of Christ within us produces a CROSS.

BRIMSTONE in Revelation  G2303  theion  Probably neuter of G2304 (in its original sense of flashing); sulphur: - brimstone.
G2304  theios   From G2316; godlike (neuter as noun, divinity): - divine, godhead.
G2316   theos    Of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with G3588) the supreme Divinity; figuratively a magistrate; by Hebraism very: - X exceeding, God, god [-ly, -ward].
Sulfur aka Brimstone is used for purififing.

Origin of SULFUR

Middle English sulphur brimstone, from Latin sulpur, sulphur, sulfur
First Known Use: 14th century

yes but where does brimstone come from?
Answer: the breath of God

WhiteWings

ACVIsaiah 30
33 For a Topheth is prepared of old, yea, it is made ready for the king. He has made it deep and large. The pile of it is fire and much wood. The breath of LORD kindles it, like a stream of brimstone.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Cardinal

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 :cloud9: Quickly, before I have to get some sleep.....@ pneuma, excellent posts  :HeartThrob:

@ WW......here's how the two "positions" are reconciled. If we are blameless because we have laid whatever needs to be consumed, down, then the fire only comes to burn up the chaff, so His anger is directed at it, and it is destroyed but we ourselves suffer no loss.

If we have overcome whatever it is, thru His Spirit in us, then when the fire comes, instead of the letter of it bringing condemnation to the flesh, it burns not at all, and brings healing (wholeness) to whatever it touches. That wholeness manifests as an opening of the eyes of our understanding to the SPIRITUAL meaning behind the letter that is being "cast" at us.

Whether or not the fire brings "death" to the flesh or life, depends on the condition of the heart, in regards to what is needed. In actuality, both happen, even if it comes as "death", because even His judgments are unto victory.

I have experienced this several times in one way I'll share right now, and that is when the scriptures were cast in my teeth in anger towards me, instead of them hitting flesh in me (because I had already overcame whatever it was) and "touching" me, the Lord quickened NEW LIFE in them to me.

So what the "enemy" (principalities, coming thru men given over to the spirit of condemnation with a wrong motive of the heart in using the scriptures) meant for evil, God meant for good, as the "enemy" in them actually blessed me.

This principle is shown in the place where it talked about Paul being the ship, and they "sounded" and found the water depth was 20 fathoms, then as they drew closer to shore, it was 15 fathoms, and so on.

The water is as the Spirit when the FIERY DARTS (letter being used to condemn) of the wicked (wrong spirit) cast them at us, and it quenches them. The deeper the water, the more dying to self has taken place, and the less likely any of them will hit earth (flesh).

The word for sounding is closely related to the word for parable, and has the connotation of something thrown. This is why Jesus rebuked the teachers of Israel, the Pharisees, for not understanding the parables. Their "water" wasn't deep enough; He was "sounding" to find the depth, with the parables.

And again, this goes back to what I shared earlier about the waters below the firmament, being as a baptism conforming us unto the likeness of His death, which is what the baptism of John symbolized. Fiery darts can't hurt a dead man.  :laughing7:

And yes, both baptisms are necessary for ALL righteousness, as Jesus told John when he protested that it was he (only) that needed to be baptized by Jesus. My  :2c: Blessings....
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor