Someone help me, please...

[Beloved Servant]

Are not two little sparrows sold for a penny?
And yet not one of them will fall to the ground without your Father's consent and notice.

[Nathan]

Um . . .when we spend our energy embedded in natural occurances, we become consumed by our natural reasoning.  There is a reason why we're to fill our minds with heavenly thoughts, principles and truths.  We become what we behold.  I think any president we've had, has had their hands full just trying to run a nation . . .let alone trying to manipulate the whole world through pretend alien activity, then throw in religion as well . . .takes more faith to believe in that than it does to beleive God is all in all.

There really and truly is no worrying in the kingdom.  There is no concern for what tomorrow may or may not bring, for rumors and alarmists, conspirators and conspiracies . .there is no life in that arena.  Should we start to emphasize on those things, we'd be in a constant state of fear and depression at the same time.

[Molly]

And you say that God has a purpose and reason for everything, including all the evil He creates and does? Well how come He's trying to destroy Christianity? Why the Bible-reading Christians who worship Him? I just don't get it...   

But don't you find it amazing that all of it is prophesied in the Bible thousands of years ago?

Surely the Lord GOD does nothing Unless He reveals His secret counsel To His servants the prophets.
--Amos 3:7

These things all happen by decree and for a purpose.  I'm with Marie and Pneuma and others who say that God is not doing this, he is making provision for it.

When you have a small child you can exert a lot of control, but you still have to let them make their small mistakes and recover from them or that child will grow up unable to handle big things.  As the child grows you exercise less and less control and substitute guidance.  At some point, that child is fully grown and on his own.

How do you deal with a rebellious teenager?  Lock him up or let him learn the consequences of his actions and try to minimize the damage?  At some point, Man has to grow up.

Think of it like a parent raising a child.  If my three year old writes on the neighbor's walls with a crayon, did I do that or did he?  But, still, I am responsible for him.

I don't know why you say you have a disability, Michelle, you have a mind like a steel trap.  You seem to learn things instantly. :laughing7:

[Molly]

There really and truly is no worrying in the kingdom.  There is no concern for what tomorrow may or may not bring, for rumors and alarmists, conspirators and conspiracies . .there is no life in that arena.  Should we start to emphasize on those things, we'd be in a constant state of fear and depression at the same time.

Or you will know the truth and it will set you free...

If I wake up in a burning house, am I supposed to focus only on beautiful things while the house burns down, or am I supposed to wake everyone up and get them out of there in time?

[thinktank]

There's a lot of disinformation about the NWO. According to them, any person who has authority or celiberity status is part of some kind of cult and the U|SA goverment is actually run by a shadow government. If they truly were that powerful we would not be having this discussion, and the US consititution would not exist. Also notice the arrogancy of these conspirator people, they just happen to be Americans and it so happens that all the evil forces are in America controlling the world! I find their view limiting as they only look upon one single country out of the 200+ or so nations in the world. While these conspirators are making out America to be some kind of mystery babylon who shapes the world, the rest of the world is busy doing real world controlling, such as North Korea who threatens other countries with real weapons, and Iran, to name just a few.

I would not go so far as to say everything the conspirators are false, but that they paint a wrong picture of the kind of power these cults currently posses.

[Nathan]

There really and truly is no worrying in the kingdom.  There is no concern for what tomorrow may or may not bring, for rumors and alarmists, conspirators and conspiracies . .there is no life in that arena.  Should we start to emphasize on those things, we'd be in a constant state of fear and depression at the same time.

Or you will know the truth and it will set you free...

If I wake up in a burning house, am I supposed to focus only on beautiful things while the house burns down, or am I supposed to wake everyone up and get them out of there in time?

What?  You're making no sense.

[Michelle]

I am useless. I am of no use to anyone. And all this because of my disability. I should know because I've tried. God knows I've tried countless times. I'm the most useless Christian and servant of Jesus Christ. It's not like I haven't tried. Stuck in a town where there is pretty much no Christian. Because of my disability, I can't take a job and I live off of social welfare, which is probably a sin since Jesus says in the Bible not to owe anything to anyone. How does He expect the disabled, mentally ill and handiccaped to eat and clothe themselves then? Anyway, that's not the point. The point is, I'm totally useless with my damn disability, tight budget and inability to travel on my own. I only have a mother and a sister. My sister is always working so I rarely see her. My mother suffers from Fibromyalgia so she can't travel with me. As a Christian, I'm totally useless. Even the most pathetic of Jesus' disciples wasn't useless. At least, Judas got to betray Jesus, which led to the works of the cross and the salvation of mankind. Even the vilest of the vile and the lowest of the low was mightily used by God and had a purpose. But me, I was apparently destined for uselessness. And for good reason. Why would God let my potential go to waste? Because I simply don't have any. I was doomed to be useless. My life is a farce, a joke. Why was I even born? Why did God bring me into this world? Just to drive me crazy with love for Him and leave me to live with the fact that I will always be His most useless servant? Why giving me that damn and so hated disability? So that I would remain useless, unable to live a normal life? So that I would always have problems socializing and be rejected and as a result, would never learn how to build an okay relationship with anyone and always suck at building relationships? I know that He was rejected by pretty much everyone all His human life, but by putting His children through that, He prevents them from ever learning how to build an okay relationship with Him. You'll never learn how to build a relationship with Him, unless you have learned how and built one with another human. Being disabled sucks. Of what use is it to be saved if you remain useless and you are stuck in your relationship with Jesus and you don't even know how a relationship works?

The Bible always say stuff like, worshipping in spirit and truth, and even though I'm born again, it doesn't make much sense to me. How the heck am I supposed to worship Him if I don't even know how? And when you don't understand certain things, what does people do? They only make things worse for you by saying that you are not saved and born again or you would understand all of these things. They expect you to know everything. Fundies just love that. Making your life even more miserable. And that stuff about living water. Is that supposed to make sense? I'm such a slow learner that I've learned pretty much nothing in the last six months. Not only do I have a disability, I have a defective memory. I always forget half, if not the three-quarter of what I learn. Also, I lived with anxiety, fear, anger and depression pretty much all the time for those six months because I have been very much damaged by a Fundy friend and it's not even his fault because like pretty much everyone else, he has been endoctrinated and brainwashed by the church and society. Programmed to think the way he does. I can't hate him for what he did to me because he's a victim. He will always be my friend and my beloved brother and I will always love him no matter what happens, even if he hurts me and turn his back on me. I am pathetic and useless. I don't even know how to properly worship. I'm an ignorant fool and I hate myself. Why did He lead me to the truth of UR if I am to remain useless and such a slow learner? I have sent emails with some explanations and links to the TM websites. I have received only two or three answers out of the fifty emails I've sent. It's not like I'm teaching them endless woe, so what is their problem? Why do people still react like that? In fact, they don't even react at all since they don't even seem to read my messages. And I have never taught them, or even mention the doctrine of endless woe when writing to them.

As if that wasn't enough, I was abused and wounded so many times in my life that I always end up shutting Jesus out. Ever since I was a kid, I learned to build walls. I always end up shutting Him out. It became a reflexe. Sometimes, I'm not even aware of it. I remember when I walked in a state of pure, perfect, divine love for three days straight, I didn't shut Him out then. Three days. Such irony. But I always end up shutting Him out again. I just shut Him out or shut myself out of pain, which brings pretty much the same result. Either because I hurt too much or because I'm too scared to let Him in for fear of getting hurt again. Like I said, I'm not always aware of that. It became a reflexe. The Fundies only made things worse by telling me that I would be severely punished for shutting Him out like that. That pain or no pain, fear of pain or no fear of pain, I had no excuse. That produced even more fear, more guilt, more shame in me. They told me that it had nothing to do with pain or fear, that I was selfish, proud and bad. They just don't get it. As if that wasn't enough, I think there are sins and wounds burried so deep inside me that I can't remember them. I have no idea what they are. But I know that I'm constantly struggling to keep them from surfacing. Because somehow, I know that if they come to the surface, they will finish me off for good. I just feel that I'll never be able to deal with them. I know that it will just bring more traumas. I have no idea what those sins and wounds are, but I know that my inner being or whatever the hell you call it, is too terrified to let them surface. But because they are unresolved, because I ignore them and struggle to keep them burried deep inside me, they are rotting me from the inside out and they bring me nothing but agony. They are killing me. And the stink of it is starting to permeate my whole life. I always end up shutting Him out and the problem just become worse. I once heard a speech. A guy said: "Nothing in the end can shut Jesus out. Just as locked and bolted doors will never be able to keep Him out." Such speech made me want to run away. I just couldn't allow anyone to get close to me ever again. I always end up shutting myself up in little dark rooms, shutting Him out and He let me. If He really is gonna save everyone against their will if He has to, why doesn't He just demolish the locked and bolted door?

I was never good enough for anyone. Not mommy, not daddy, not anyone. And I'll never be good enough for Jesus. Why should it matter whether Jesus loves me or not? Not only I can't FEEL His love for me, I have nothing to offer Him. Let's face it. I just don't. I don't think any of us do. And that's the drama. He knew everything from the beginning, so there is just no way to agreeably surprise Him. It's like inviting Jesus to a freaking party and shout: "surprise!" when He knew all along that you would throw the freaking party. It's like a kid holding a beautifully wrapped gift behind her back when her father knew all along what the freaking gift would be. Such bitter disappointment. The drama of "can't agreeably surprise Daddy". The bigger drama is "we have nothing to offer Him". What do I have to offer Him? My weak, pathetic, human faith and love? Dead works? Some pathetic, useless human gift? Even keeping the commandments (law) brings death. But if we don't keep them, we sin or cannot avoid sin. Is that supposed to make sense? I have stopped keeping the commandments, keeping the law, weeks ago, and my situation didn't improve. I have nothing to offer Jesus. And I'm so sick of hearing people say: "It's not about what you have to offer, it's about what He has to offer." I am so sick and so tired of being too broke to buy a decent gift to my mother and sister and above all else, I'm sick and tired of having nothing to offer to Jesus. He died for me, on a cross and He bled and suffered like hell for me, He had that Bible sent to me and brought me to the truth of UR and I HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER HIM!!!! AND EVERYONE SAY THE SAME FREAKING THING!!!

"It's not about what you have to offer, it's about what He has to offer". Ever occurred to them that it's important to me, to give, to have something to give, to experience the pleasure and happiness of pleasing someone, making someone happy, to prove my love, to have something to offer? Apparently not. This might sound harsh and bitter to you, but it seems that all Fundies just sound the same. They sound like a broken record. Eternal torment, screams of agony, dancing flames, end of the world, the devil, it's all about what He has to offer. Yada yada yada. Broken record. They all sound the same. Even my poor, beloved brother, Thomas. Despite my bitterness and my own problems, my heart bleeds for him. He caused me a great deal of damage, but I still love him, a lot. I'll never understand why a friendship over the Internet turned that way for me, but it did. I've never even seen him, but I've been talking with him for six months. I know our friendship won't last. He rarely writes to me anymore. And when he does, it's to calumniate the Christian Universalists ("heretics") and to try to get me to go back to believing in eternal suffering. No thanks. He can hurt me as much as he wants, I'll never stop loving him. And it doesn't matter how much he hurts me now. I have nothing to offer to Jesus. He suffered horribly for me, His body suffered the shame of death for three days for me and I have nothing to offer Him. Everything I have comes from Him. It's like buying a man a gift with his own money. I have nothing of my own. My faith in Him and love for Him comes from Him. They are not even my own. My pathetic, weak, human faith and love are nothing. Everything I have comes from Him, belongs to Him and is useless to Him. He doesn't need food, or money, or clothes, or my pathetic, weak, human faith and love. He doesn't need anything. There is nothing I can offer Him or give Him. Everything human is foolishness to Him. In the Bible, Solomon built a temple for Him and He reacted with disdain and mockery when He saw the gift: "Heaven is my house and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? What is the place of my rest? Hath not my hand made all these things. Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye."

To be continued...     

[Michelle]

Suite...

Yada yada yada. Apparently, God didn't care about Solomon's feelings. Would it have killed Him to at least pretend to appreaciate the gift? And if that passage was from Paul alone, why couldn't He just shut up? Would it have killed them to spare Solomon's feelings and mine? Even if I was to offer myself, body, heart and soul as a living sacrifice, even if I was to offer myself, a hundred and ten per cent, even if I could oppen myself that much to Him, I'M NOT WORTHY!!!! I'M NOT WORTHY TO UNLOOSE HIS SHOE'S LATCHET!!!! I HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER HIM, NOTHING!!!! Everything is a stab in the heart for me. Everything just add to my pain and misery. I already am in hell. And don't tell me: "He already knows that you love Him. You have nothing to prove." That's not good enough. That's just not good enough. I'm useless to the poor, the sick, my beloved brothers and sisters in Christ, the unsaved ones, and I have nothing to offer Him. Everything is pain and misery. I already am in hell...

Please, minister to me, guys, because I get the feeling that it's the only thing that will bring me a little peace as I am in this hell. Don't ask. I don't know how I know this. Things don't make much sense to me right now...

[jabcat]

There is nothing I can offer Him or give Him. ...What is the place of my rest?

He doesn't want us to do, as much as He wants us to 'be'...surrendered.  What we can give Him is ourselves - in surrender.  "What is the place of my rest"?  We are His temple.  God bless.

[micah7:9]

Nice :icon_king:

[Michelle]

An 8.9 earthquake and a tsunami hit Japan. HAARP playing with their toys. HAARP/Blue Beam along with political leaders around the world are planning the destruction of Christianity and the NWO, to take over the whole world. Their goal? A one world governement, currency and religion. They are preparing a false second coming to destroy Christianity. To lead people into the claws of some antichrist. World leaders and are in secret societies. Secret societies are running the NASA, Hollywood and even the music industry. The Illuminati, the Freemasons, Skull & Bones, etc. HAARP/Blue Beam creates earthquakes, floods, tsunamis, even fire tornados all over the world. With billion watts of radio power (electromagnetic energy), they play with the ionosphere and they use that to control the weather and create man-made disasters (as oppose to natural disasters). That's part of their depopulation program. Wanna see some interesting facts about the quakes around the world?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pch4QtJFz24


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYTdHtaCP0k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ThI-zpvhQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GUqywOtwkA

Also, you have to see this. He's an ex 33rd Freemason. I don't believe in that "good Illuminati truly enlighted by God" crap, but everything else he says is true and as I told you before, the Vatican truly is the harlot of Baylonia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0sBlcgAick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXmXcZoDY2E&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stMgtPH8S-A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-rwBPGeW20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZLnPg9bp7Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P3cMQ2xPUg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8sl7N7goa8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_E09GKuHjE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyCvp2QJSiE

HAARP/Blue Beam is an infamous project of the NASA. Wanna see what HAARP/Blue Beam can do in term of holograms? They project those holograms from satellites that are in space:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb2EnW7quAE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hb_Vx36Sbk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxkngzG41ZE

That was then. See what they can do now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJjOEgbXlKE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxwXf5H3HmM

Now, there is something you need to know:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek7ZHenQnu4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnV_pNe_BB0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZtbYnslB0o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsUtvOW6SR0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXS3o7Y0lK8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ENEH8d974&feature=fvwrel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek-Q0T9wK2g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw79fai6svw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-jzNfxKSio&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwq04_KhCeI

You need to see this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiaGlizZU3k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eroIbHpfgOo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8XBxw7k8rk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtElk4aHBWM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3MsDcsDZLc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_i4wMM_2AA&NR=1 Blue Beam...

Evil spirits being released in the Gulf of Mexico. The Illuminati and Freemasons:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6l6vCtEQ2c&feature=fvwrel

Here's another one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzRJPkUYJI&feature=related

Or possibly artificial life? They say it has spread to humans. Whatever the hell it is, it is bad, mark my words. "Watch this video and look at the hole in her hip, she had 27 on her legs and many, many people have the same thing... They are mis diagnosing it as MRSA but its directly related to the synthetic genomes BP has released in the Gulf..."

Whatever is going on, it's bad and it gets worse:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rbGUmJFKQU&feature=fvwrel

And apparently they just HATE Haiti, for some reason:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM6zdfrxHEw&feature=related

And you really need to see those. Still think Obama is good guy?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CV8Xt2VWvc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuN6OibmY9M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHa21UCtNYg

Check this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2bIgfx4PXI

For more infos on the NWO, see my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/Cutie9326?feature=mhum (the playlist: N.W.O.R.M)...

Pray hard people. Pray very hard that the Holy Spirit will moved among the brainwashed and mind-controlled victims of the secret societies, so that they can get to know Jesus in this life and build a relationship with Him. Please, I ask that some of you pray for me 'cause I'm gonna step into the gap and intercede for them. Oppression and temptations can arise any time. God decides when an individual get saved, but I feel that I have to do this and it's not like I have anything to lose so I'm gonna try and so should you...

[Michelle]

"I don't know why you say you have a disability, Michelle, you have a mind like a steel trap.  You seem to learn things instantly."

I've been diagnosed with an Asperger Disorder. It's a neurological problem and a disability. People with that disability have a hard time communicating certain things and socializing. And it doesn't help that they are being rejected for being supposedly "abnormal". Most were born like that. I also suffer from anxiety and depression. And I really don't learn things instantly. I'm far behind everyone else when it comes to relationship, worship and understanding some parts of the scriptures. And I have a defective memory so I always end up forgetting stuff and all this because there's something wrong with my stupid brain...

[Michelle]

There really and truly is no worrying in the kingdom.  There is no concern for what tomorrow may or may not bring, for rumors and alarmists, conspirators and conspiracies . .there is no life in that arena.  Should we start to emphasize on those things, we'd be in a constant state of fear and depression at the same time.

Or you will know the truth and it will set you free...

If I wake up in a burning house, am I supposed to focus only on beautiful things while the house burns down, or am I supposed to wake everyone up and get them out of there in time?

Right you are, Molly. I've been studying all this for months, back when I was a Fundy, begging people to get saved from everlasting torment, endless wrath and all that crap. And I can tell you that the NWO and all that comes with it is very much real. Of course there is deception and some disinfo, but the more you study the stuff, the more you can tell the crap from the truth. Watch the videos in my last post and learn more. And if you want more infos, sister, try my Youtube channel. I call it the N.W.O.R.M. (The New World Order Resistance Movement).

[Molly]

"I don't know why you say you have a disability, Michelle, you have a mind like a steel trap.  You seem to learn things instantly."

I've been diagnosed with an Asperger Disorder. It's a neurological problem and a disability. People with that disability have a hard time communicating certain things and socializing. And it doesn't help that they are being rejected for being supposedly "abnormal". Most were born like that. I also suffer from anxiety and depression. And I really don't learn things instantly. I'm far behind everyone else when it comes to relationship, worship and understanding some parts of the scriptures. And I have a defective memory so I always end up forgetting stuff and all this because there's something wrong with my stupid brain...

Phooey on that.  If you are always forgetting things, it's because you know ten times more than other people.  If you have trouble relating to people, that's something you can work on or compensate for and work around.  Do you think things would have been easier for you 100 years ago when women were taken care of and expected to be quiet and sew and cook?  You can work out a lifestyle that is suitable for yourself instead of having to adapt your lifestyle to this fast paced world.

But think of this: everything you write on this medium can be read by thousands of people you will never meet.  You will impact people in ways you never know.  One hundred years ago only a very few people had that opportunity.  God can use you no matter what your circumstance.

[CHB]

Amen Molly!!   Michelle you seem to be doing better than I ever could at putting down your thoughts and typing them. I am really slow and can't remember a dog gone thing half the time.

CHB

[Paul Hazelwood]

Hi Michelle

I absolutely understand what you are going through.   The difficulty you will find is that while we can think the whole bible is true, the issue is where in the bible does it explain that everything you are reading must be literally true in context with a God who ordered all this?

The question I have for you is if the people who wrote the various texts that were one day discoverd and "then" compiled into what we now call the bible meant for those descriptions to be an accurate account of what God did to humans on the earth physically, or,  could it be possible that men used literal things happening around them to depict in the context of story telling in their generation and culture what God does in our hearts and mind spiritually?

For instance,  I personally do not believe God ordered the killing of any infant for some good and grand purpose that only he understands.   What I have found out to the best of my knowledge is that ancient cultures who went to war with another tribe would do their best to kill them all,  because they wanted to eliminate children from growing up and gaining the strength to take revenge out on their tribe later on.

Now, Christianity, has taught in various ways that God backed a certain tribe and would condone all of this because he was on their side.  In reality all we see is human nature wanting God to be on our side.   We can even see that on a smaller level where two professional football teams both pray to God to win.   Well, who wins then must of found the greatest favor with God huh?   Nonsense.


What we see is simply our modern human nature translated and taught in an incorrect light causing for the most part the exact problem you have now.  Most Christians have this same problem however their fear of daring to defy tradition completely gets in their way, but rather they step a foot outside the box here and there.


What I believe is that the OT is largely a metaphor.  For instance, if you understand the ancient barbaric ritual of killing a whole tribe due to the nature of the children growing up to seek revenge, then how can we transpose that to what God does?  Well it is fairly simple,  we can find out that sin can manifest itself in our lives through simple and seemingly innocent thoughts,

Adultery for instance can start with a man admiring a womans hair styke.  Simple and innocent to start with but then it can grow to admiring her smooth skin, and so on and so forth.

God would want us to kill those innocent thoughts in some manner in order to protect us from future harm.

So Michelle what I am asking you to try today is to throw out the bathwater and throw the corrupt baby of religious thought out with it, jump out of the box your trapped in and find a whole new world waiting for you.


Take care.

[Michelle]

:talkangry::talkangry::hysteric: THA'S IT, THIS TIME I'M REALLY FREAKING MAD!!!! I'VE HAD IT WITH ALL THE FREAKING STUPIDITIES OF THE FUNDIES!!!! I'VE HAD IT WITH THEIR FREAKING PRIDE, ARROGANCE AND SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS!!!! PLEASE, LORD KILL ME BECAUSE I'D RATHER DIE THAN STAND THOSE PEOPLE ANY LONGER!!!! ABOUT TO HAVE A STROKE HERE 'CAUSE THEY'RE ALL KILLING ME!!!! THEY ARE REALLY FREAKING KILLING ME!!!!

"God is never angry. A superior being does NOT have human emotions.

Yeah? Says who? Some pharisaical, self-righteous and hypocritical Fundy? LOL *Sarcastic* Yeah, right. I will believe him rather than the Bible. That guy seems to forget that God has been human for 33 years. The Bible tells us that the Lord feels anger, jealousy, love and emotional pain, even before He was human. When He was a human man, He wept and He was not ashamed of His emotions. He never hid them. Jesus didn't believe that stupid crap about "Real men don't cry". He never hid His emotions, He showed them. All that crap about "Real men don't cry" is nothing but BS. Too many men don't accept their emotions and interiorize them nowaday. That leads to committing even more sins. Men who interiorize their anger and sorrow end up hurting, even killing members of their families and other people. Being human and crying is not a crime, it's normal and natural. But some stupid people still insist that boys and men are not to cry. Well, if I was interested in marriage, I'd rather marry a sensitive man who is not ashamed of his emotions than marrying a macho who think he has to wear a mask and pretend that everything is always sunshine and daisies. A man who cannot admit that he is angry, afraid, sad or nervous is not a man I would want to be married to. A guy who burry everything deep inside is a guy who always end up exploding and being stuck in marriage with someone like that would be a total nightmare, especially when you have a hard time controlling your own emotions. A guy who accept and admit his emotions is more compassionate, kind and patient and is more of a real man in my eyes than the guy who wears a mask and lie about how he feels. Most Fundies are emotionally dead. They use the same tone of voice when they talk about God roasting people for all eternity than they use when talking about God's love for His children. And they sound like a broken record. All they ever talk about is dancing flames and screams of agony and they keep spreading the gross lie that Jesus talked more about hell than heaven.

"God will not destroy the world with water again. (But He did not promised He wouldn't use fire)."

"The rainbow is a promise that God will not destroy the world again with water, and a reminder that He will destroy the world with fire."

Says who? The Bible? Certainly not! They should read some of the TM articles. There is no scripture saying that this world will be destroyed. Only that the former earth and heaven will "pass away", as in they will be purified and transformed over a period of time. They will not be destroyed, they will be changed, just like the humans. And if they used their brains, they would realize that with both the former earth and heavens gone, there would be nowhere left for anyone to be. Some say the earth will be destroyed first and people taken to heaven. But nowhere in the scriptures does it say that anyone will ever enter heaven until after the thousand years of reign. Just like people, the former earth and heaven will be changed, not destroyed. That's what it means "pass away". Once the former earth and heavens are changed to the new ones, the former will have passed away, the former ones will cease to exist because they will be changed. Because God used literal water to "destroy" the world, they think He will use literal fire. But God didn't destroy the whole world. And contrary to popular belief, it wasn't only Noah and his family who survived the flood. The flood didn't cover the whole world either. There are many proofs of that and all one has to do is read the articles on the subject. Even a Nephilim survived the flood. The giant Goliath. Yes, a literal giant. Otherwise, he would not have been feared by so many men. So he wasn't a giant in the sense of a very tall, corpulent man. Those Fundies have been misinterpreting that Bible passage about John speaking of a baptism with water and a baptism with fire. That passage simply means that those who are not born again will will face more suffering than those who aren't. From what I've gathered about the living water, it is the baptism of the Holy Spirit. The baptism of fire might imply suffering and possibly even the death of the carnal mind. The problem with this passage is John is talking about two baptisms and in some other passage it says that there is only one baptism. But whatever John was talking about, it wasn't heaven and earth or he would've been very clear about it. Also, John never said that the fire was literal...

"God will not destroy the world again, man will. The scriptures say so. And it will be destroyed by fire, so the world will be destroyed by man and a nuke war."

Have you ever heard such stupidities in your entire life? Man has the power to destroy the whole world now! And the entire universe (that means more than just the earth) will be destroyed by a nuke war! Wow, just wow. There is nothing about that in the Bible whatsoever. Fortunately, thank Lord Jesus for that, I still exercise control over myself or I would vent out on those Fundies and give them a piece of my mind about the stupidities that come out of their mouths...

"After the rapture occurs on May 21 2011 all everyine left behind has to look forward to is death, torment and destruction."

Says who? Jesus? Paul? The apostles? The Jewish rabbies? The first fathers? No, no, no, no and no. The rapture is a gross lie and a false doctrine. It is unbiblical. The passage of scriptures that they use is clearly taken out of context, is not to be taken literally and the Bible never implies that some people will escape all suffering while others will be left behind to suffer horribly. Only self-righteous and proud people could come up with such a (false) doctrine. Like "we are good enough to escape all suffering and calamities, but the rest of the world is just not good enough". The church (meaning the "elect") will make a quick escape as the rest of the world endure horrible suffering and destruction. Now does that make sense to you? That's all Fundies ever do now. Looking down on other people and putting other people under their feet. "I am good enough, but you aren't." Says who? Who said that? Certainly not Christ. The Bible clearly says that all have sinned, all have come short of the glory of God and even the best saint can't go through his entire life without committing one sin. There is not a single individual in all the world who is better than another. No one is in a position to judge anyone. The Bible says that no one is righteous, not one. There is none that seeks God. Those who are saved and born again have the righteousness of Christ, not their own! And if those who are saved and born again seek God, that's because God put that desire in their hearts. Not because they decided or chose to seek Him. Fundies spread their stinking, pharisaical teachings and false gospel all over the world. It's contagious like a disease and infect more people everyday. They give themselves the right to judge others, to decide who should be spared or punished, who should live or die. That's pharisaical hypocrisy and self-righteousness. They think and act like they're God. Who the hell do they think they are? Who gave them the freaking right to do that? Now ask me people why I'm so freaking mad. I could just verbally attack those people, give them a piece of my mind, tell them exactly what I think about their stupid behavior, but I don't. But not because I decided or chose not to. Me, I am way too weak to control my human passions. It is by the grace of Christ alone that I exercise control over myself. Another thing that the Fundies don't do. They deny it all the time, but they rarely give all the glory and credit to God. They are so proud of their own works. They are so proud and self-righteous that they have become blind to their spiritual blindness. If Fundies don't give their fire and brimstone daily speech, they are not pleased and happy. They sound like a broken record of "dancing flames, screams of agony and the devil cackling with glee as he torture his victims forever". Can't they just sing another freaking tune? And did I mention that it's nearly impossible to discuss anything else than religion with them? It's their recurring obssession. That false doctrine of endless suffering and everlasting wrath is an abomination and utterly disgusting. Those who preach it the most look more like Pharisees and the devil than true Christians. And look at this. As if that wasn't enough, they dare to demolish our views and doctrines, the true gospel:

http://www.tektonics.org/gk/hello.html

I only read a few paragraphs and I'm not interested in reading the rest of it. You want to read all of it, suit yourself. Me, with the grace of Christ, am restraining myself from telling those individuals exactly what I think about them...

To be continued...

[Michelle]

Suite...

"There will be no thousand year reign of Christ on this earth. May 21 2011 is the day of the rapture and october 21 2011 is the the destruction of this universe and none of it and no one that has been destroyed with it will ever enter into the mind of those who reign with Christ ever again."

Have you ever heard such stupidities in your entire life? There is no scripture saying that the thousand year reign is in heaven, much less the former heaven still infected with the evil of the fallen angels. The thousand year reign will not be on this earth? Then how come the Bible says that the former heavens and earth will only be passed away AFTER the thousand year reign, that there will be no more pain, no more sorrow, no more crying only AFTER the thousand year reign that is in the new heavens and earth? That's the chronological order of events describe in the book of Revelation. That means that the thousand year reign will be on this earth and that death, sorrow, crying, sin, evil and death will continue to exist as people reign with Christ on this earth and that those things will only be completely eliminated AFTER the thousand year reign. The forrmer heavens and earth will be changed to the new ones as those things are completely eliminated for good AFTER the thousand year reign. That person who claim that he or she has studied the Book of Revelation clearly didn't or he/she wouldn't ignore the chronological order of events in that book. What would be the use of reigning with Christ if it wasn't to apply justice? The Bible says that the saints will judgethe world and even angels. But since evil and sin will still exist at that time, the saints better go to Jesus for advices and wisdom or there will be injustice and punishment. There are also a lot of things to consider. Those who will not be part of the first resurrection will not reign with Christ, that means only saints will reign with Christ. That also means that not all saints will reign because if all saints reign then who would they reign over? Not all the Ecclesia will reign with Christ, no matter what people say. If only saints reign and only saints are part of the first resurrection and in order to reign, saints must have people to reign over then not all saints will reign with Christ. No need to be a brain surgeon to realize that. The Bible also say that no one knows the day or the hour, but some miguided Fundies say that near the "end", the righteous will understand the book of Daniel and find the dates in it, but the wicked will not understand. Says who? They all have different dates and they can't prove anything. The Bible says that no one knows the day or the hour and He will come back like a thief. People who claim they a date are spreading false teachings. As I said before, many Christian Universalists have written articles about this and there is no scriptures that say that this world will come to an end or be destroyed. The Bible says that we will be changed and the former heavens and earth will pass away, so they too will be changed, not destroyed. The rapture is a false, unbiblical doctrine and many articles out there can prove it. There is no endless torment or destruction of the soul. And no one will ever be erased from the memory of anyon. I also seriously doubt that the good and positive things of the former earth will be erased from the memory of anyone. The Bible says that there will be no more tears and no more pain. That means only the bad and negative things will be erased from the memories of people, not the good and positive things and not other people. To say that some people will be utterly destroyed and that no one that has been destroyed will ever enter the mind of those who reign with Christ ever again is not only utterly disgusting, it is totally evil and you can see that those Fundies are totally heartless. "It's okay if God destroy people or torture them forever, He will erase them from my memory and I won't have to think about them anymore." The person who said that is a monster. There is no word to destribe how much of a monster that person is. May the Lord melt the heart of that person and change him or her from the inside out. Even among the vilest of people, few think such things. It's also a gross lie. They make God out to be a liar and a deceiver.

http://www.tentmaker.org/testimonials/If-Hell-Is-Real-Moyer-Testimony.html

As Chris Moyer said in his testimony:

"It is said that there will be no more crying in heaven, and that God will wipe all of the tears from our eyes. If hell truly exists, then the knowledge of it must be entirely wiped out from the minds of the chosen elect. For anyone who had a heart would cry bitterly to know that while they lie in their comfort, the majority of humanity is undergoing unendurable suffering and pain. The only way God could make people forget about hell would be to stage the largest cover-up in the history of the universe. He would have to erase from the minds of countless "saved" individuals all those who perished, whether they be mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, and all of the extended relatives, as well as friends and acquaintances. No one could have a trace memory of any who perished, less they wonder about their absence from heaven, and ask God about it. If by chance, someone remembered a loved one who was not a believer, God must certainly then make up some delightful story about the whereabouts of that individual so as to not allow one "tear" in heaven. If it is true that a hell exist, yet God wipes the thought of hell from the minds of the saved, as well as the memory of all individuals who are perishing there, then God is a liar. He purposefully deceives the inhabitants of heaven into thinking that He has only created "saved individuals, in order that He might sustain the perfect peace of heaven. For if the inhabitants of heaven knew that He was allowing countless millions to be tortured, and He had power over it, then A REBELLION could very well arise, and then God would have to send everyone to hell. But then He would have no one to praise Him, for they would all be cursing His name in hell. God would not like that. If knowledge of hell were maintained in heaven, it seems it would be a thorn in people's collective consciences. It is not possible for a compassionate person to thoroughly enjoy eating a full meal while a man sitting next to him on the ground is starving to death, and his ribs show through his skin. Only the most heartless of men could finish off every last crumb without a single tinge of guilt. Who could ever, in full knowledge, immensely enjoy their comfort while millions are suffering in unspeakable agony?"

And if it's true about eternal torment, it's also true about destruction, annihilation. If God did either of those things and then erased the memories of people, He would be a liar and a deceiver. And God is no such thing. That is a misinterpretation of the passage in which God says to Isaiah: "For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come to mind. For as the new heavens, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain" (Isaiah 65:17; 66:22).

A guy said this on Yahoo and I agree with him:

"The Bible views of the new heavens and new earth is not as literal as it may initially seen. John describes what is revealed to him in Revelation 21:1. "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea." Hundred of years before John's day, God saith to Isaiah: "For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come to mind. For as the new heavens, which I will make, shall remain before me..." (Isaiah 65:17; 66:22). This prophecy was initially fulfilled when faithful Jews returned to Jerusalem in 537 B.C.E after their 70-year exile in Babylon. In that restoration, they formed a cleansed society, a "new earth" under a new governmental system, "new heavens". The apostle Peter, however, pointed to a further application of the prophecy, saying: "Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness" (2 Peter 3:13). John now shows that this promise, is fulfilled during the Lord's day. "The former heaven and the former earth", Satan's organized system of things with its governmental structure influenced by Satan and his demons, will pass away. The turbulent "sea" of wicked, rebellious mankind will cease to exist. In its place will be "a new earth" - a new earthly society under a new government, God's Kingdom. -"

There is a lot to consider here. First of all, when God says that the former earth and everything that happened in that former earth shall not be remembered, nor come to mind, He means the bad thing and the bad memory. I seriously doubt that the good things and good memories will be erased from the memories of people. God never said anything about that. Secondly, I think that guy is right when he talks about a metaphorical sea. God would never destroy or take away something as beautiful and wonderful as the seas. God loves that beautiful and wonderful creation of His (seas) and He would never keep His children from the beauties and pleasures of the seas. Way too many of His children never had the chance to enjoy them. And since water has such an important signification in Christianity and Jesus talked the Lord talked about it often, it is obvious that in that specific passage, He is referring to a metaphorical sea. As that guy said, probably the sea of wicked, rebellious mankind who will be change to truly righteous people. Some people claim that God will destroy or take away the seas because it makes a third of the world inhabitable and there will be billions of people on earth during the thousand yearyear reign, way more people than there has ever been. But nothing is impossible to God. He can make the earth habitable for billions of people without destroying the seas, one of His most beautiful and wonderful creations that is He loves just as much as we do. Thirdly, Peter clearly says that righteousness will dwell in the new earth and new heaven and since sin and evil and mortality will still exist during the thousand year reign, then the thousand year reign will most certainly be on earth. Without doubt. Yes, the devil and his demons will be imprisoned during that thousand years, but sin and evil and mortality will still exist in man and will not cease to exist until after the thousand year reign when it will be eliminated as the former earth and former heaven undergo the last changes, as the change is completed. Thirdly, God used the present, not the past. He says, "I CREATE new heavens and a new earth", then He uses the future and He goes on saying, "for the new heavens which I WILL make..." That means, He is, right now as we speak, working the changes and He WILL complete His work, just like He always complete all works that He starts. Get out into the world and you cannot help but notice that the world is already undergoing some changes. Those changes are apparent but extremely slow, otherwise they would kill people and cause major traumas. Yes, slowly but surely, the world is changing. Some people who are sensitive to the supernatural and spiritual, like myself, can even sense it and feel it. But please, for the Love of God, don't believe all that crap about pole shifting and some planet Nibiru (or planet X) or meteor crashing into earth. There is absolutely no proof of that. Some people talk about "the star call Wormwood" and take that passage too literally, thinking that the star will literally crash into the rivers. Secondly, why did they came up with that Planet X/Nibiru crap, since a star and a planet are two completely different things? There is no planet Nibiru in the scriptures. Some people claim that the USA leaders are trying to cover it with chemtrails to hide its existance, when in fact they are preparing the sky for the fake second coming show. :rolleye: Planet Nibiru, yeah right. If you ask me, some people are watching way too much Hollywood filth and since the Illuminati and Freemasons took over Hollywood, no wonder there is so much filth on TV and in the movies and they have totally corrupt the music industry as well. Most secular songs now only talk about sex and rebellion and have filthy language in them. Ever wondered why so many teenagers become aggressive and rebellious when they listen to Rock & Roll and Rap music? Ever wondered why people fight, do drugs and have a sexually vulgar behavior when they listen to those types of music. Because the Illuminati and Freemasons put evil spells and demons in the recordings. I will post some testimonies and infos in my next post...

[Lefein]

Michelle, can I have a simple explanation of what you are trying to say?

Fundies, New World Order conspiracies - who are you trying to fight?  The whole system of Babylon by yourself?  I think that might be the pressure you're under, trying to fight something that literally is God's place to defeat.

[jabcat]

literally is God's place to defeat.

:thumbsup:   Who is my neighbor?  Luke 10:25-37

Peace.

[jabcat]

Are not two little sparrows sold for a penny?
And yet not one of them will fall to the ground without your Father's consent and notice.

[Michelle]

Satanism in movies:

http://www.factnet.org/Scientology/hollywoodsatancult.html

http://www.whale.to/b/sc.html

http://asis.com/users/stag/starchiv/transcriptions/IllMovies.html

They even target children:

http://www.illuminati-news.com/walt-disney-agenda.htm

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread557408/pg1

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/oz.htm

http://www.refugeofrighteousness.com/articles/61/1/HARRY-POTTER-IS-TEACHING-YOUR-CHILDREN-SATANISM-AND-WITCHCRAFT/Page1.html

She knows what she's talking about. I've been into wicca in my teenager years (16 to 19 years old):

http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/tracts/tract7.html

Satanism, spells and demons in music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otti-82jEAc

He didn't say a "temple in every STUDIO. He said a temple in every record company's office, behind locked doors. Also, there is a lot more to his story than just being involved in witchcraft. He was part of the Council of 13, the level right below the ruling Rothschilds, before He got saved. He was tossed in prison, drugged and killed...   

http://www.av1611.org/othpubls/roots.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJi2HaJf1VI

"Bob Marley, Tupac and Michael Jackson were killed. If you know about Tupac's story you would know that he was framed for rape as a threat. Tupac did not like being controlled. Michael Jackson has sang songs which contain satanic lyrics. He didn't like what he was doing, so he refused to sing anymore. He was then purposely infected with vitiligo and lupus (skin disease) as a threat. He still refused to sing satanic songs and was framed for molesting children..."

On March 5th 2009, he started talking about "the worst kept secret in the world", then he was killed. Michael Jackson died of a suspected heart attack. The Illuminati are behind Blue Beam and they kill some people with induced fake heart attacks and they used electromagnetic frequency to do it. Like they did to a few others, including Serge Monast, a Canadian journalist who exposed Project Blue Beam and one of his collegues. Do research. Do you know why they use the words "Rain Man" a lot? Because Rain Man is the name of an evil spirit. If you your hear it, plead the blood of Jesus Christ over yourself and get the heck out of the place...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DikoLMfnEgE

"There has been a lot of discussion about what goes on behind the scenes in the music industry and why many celebrities end up with mental health/drug problems or simply dead..."

http://www.bukisa.com/articles/278863_mainstream-rock-rap-rb-metal-and-techno-exposed


http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~jimthing/devilis.htm

"In Dancing With Demons, Godwin shows Satan's involvement in "Christian" Rock, Rap, "safe" secular pop, and Contemporary Christian music. The valuable information in this book reveals the true master of some of the biggest names in both rock and "Christian" music. The valuable information in this book reveals the true master of some of the biggest names in both rock and "Christian" music. What takes place inside Stryper and Petra concerts. "Christian" Rockers' 11 best excuses: each is shot down. How Rock music ushered in the New Age ... and is still promoting it. How to tell genuine Christian music from Satan's imitations. Where Rap music came from and what it's real purpose is."

"From Rock to Rock comprehensively covers the music industry taking the reader from Rock 'n' Roll to the Rock of Ages. Over 1500 past and present Rock Groups and Artists classified in The Rock Music Rating System. Detailed exposé on many current entertainers, rock concerts, videos & lyrics Occult symbols of rock music explained. Accompanied by his wife Melanie, Eric has given the acclaimed "Where Do You Stand?" seminar to many thousands detailing the facts about Rock & Christian Music, The Occult & New Age religions, The Entertainment World and other issues facing us today. He has appeared on numerous television and radio talk shows."

http://www.campuschristians.info/articles/musicgodlikes.html

Still be careful guys, and keep yourself informed. For example, not all "harp music" is okay and good. Enya is a pagan. She sings about pagan mythology and gods and is all about that celtic stuff. I have seen what some books, movies or musics can do to me. Before watching, reading or listening to anything inform yourselves and pray. Ask God for HIS wisdom and HIS discernment...

Jay-Z has blasphemously given himself the nickname "Jayhova". Obama is pro-gay and pro-abortion, guys. He mocks the Bible, celebrates homosexuality and aproves the murder of foetuses. I'm not judging or condemning anyone here, but when are you people going to wake up???? Nearly all the articles and videos I've seen on that stuff was made by Fundies. In fact, I haven't seen a single article or video about that stuff made by Christian Universalists. How come it's only the "eternal torment-false gospel spreaders" informing people about this or even seriously discussing it? I know we have to focus on Christ and the good stuff, and have a healthy thought life, but that doesn't mean we can stuff our heads in the sand and ignore the deceptions, the danger and the blasphemies that sully the name of our blessed Saviour. When you minister to people and preach the Victorious gospel of Jesus Christ, warn them. It's also our responsibility. We have to be examples. How do you think people are going to feel when they find out that only hellfire-eternal torment preaching Christians are warning them about that stuff? We will lose their trust and they won't take the Victorious Gospel of Jesus Christ seriously. Unless they have been born again or received receive a strong revelation. But some people are not there yet. Just think about it. Separate yourselves from the world more and more and repent of your unwavering support for Obama and all unchristian leaders. All books, movies, musics that promote sin (i.e. sexual immorality, covetousness, idolatry, blasphemy, profanity, murder..) is of the devil...

It's like I said, guys. I've been studying the stuff for months. Keep yourselves informed and if you wanna know anything just ask. I'm always glad to help...

[Lefein]

God is bigger than all of that.  Quite literally.

Every single wicked thing that has ever happened on this earth by every single person that has ever been born here - hasn't gotten much further than our atmosphere.

God is about 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ^x1000 multiverses wide, long, and tall, and bigger (being infinite)

Stop worrying so much.  You're fretting like he isn't in control.

And as for conspiracy...its conspiracy...>_>  People act like Satan is nigh omnipresent with the way they want to find him in literally everything (except in themselves...ironically)

A great deal of all of this kind of conspiracy theory "Satan is in your drinking water!!!" nonsense - is nothing more than Satan worship in itself.  And that's the greater danger, getting us away from focusing on Christ and God's great power, and already victorious wonder - and having us to focus on walling ourselves in or having us fight an exhausting battle to the death, killing ourselves, in an ever strained effort of trying to find Satan in everything, and trying to fight that Satan that is supposedly in everything.  Just because "They" tell us that Satan is in this, or that, or otherwise.

[Michelle]

What does the Bible say about music choices?

Bible verses about music choices:

(Some of those verses are from the O.T and we're not under the law anymore, but those verses have something to teach us...)

Philippians 4:8 ESV Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things.

Ephesians 5:19 ESV Addressing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody to the Lord with your heart,

Colossians 3:16 ESV Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God.

Romans 12:2 ESV Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

Psalm 150:4 ESV Praise him with tambourine and dance; praise him with strings and pipe!

James 4:17 ESV So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin.

1 Timothy 6:3-5 ESV If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain.

1 Corinthians 8:1-13 ESV Now concerning food offered to idols: we know that "all of us possess knowledge." This "knowledge" puffs up, but love builds up. If anyone imagines that he knows something, he does not yet know as he ought to know. But if anyone loves God, he is known by God. Therefore, as to the eating of food offered to idols, we know that "an idol has no real existence," and that "there is no God but one." For although there may be so-called gods in heaven or on earth—as indeed there are many "gods" and many "lords"— ...

Romans 14:3 ESV / Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him.

Psalm 150:1-6 ESV Praise the Lord! Praise God in his sanctuary; praise him in his mighty heavens! Praise him for his mighty deeds; praise him according to his excellent greatness! Praise him with trumpet sound; praise him with lute and harp! Praise him with tambourine and dance; praise him with strings and pipe! Praise him with sounding cymbals; praise him with loud clashing cymbals! ...

James 1:22 ESV But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.

Hebrews 5:1-14 ESV For every high priest chosen from among men is appointed to act on behalf of men in relation to God, to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins. He can deal gently with the ignorant and wayward, since he himself is beset with weakness. Because of this he is obligated to offer sacrifice for his own sins just as he does for those of the people. And no one takes this honor for himself, but only when called by God, just as Aaron was. So also Christ did not exalt himself to be made a high priest, but was appointed by him who said to him, "You are my Son, today I have begotten you"; ...

1 Thessalonians 5:22 ESV Abstain from every form of evil.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 ESV But test everything; hold fast what is good.

Colossians 3:17 ESV And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.

Ephesians 5:18 ESV And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery, but be filled with the Spirit,

1 Corinthians 14:26 ESV What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. Let all things be done for building up.

1 Corinthians 12:1-31 ESV Now concerning spiritual gifts, brothers, I do not want you to be uninformed. You know that when you were pagans you were led astray to mute idols, however you were led. Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking in the Spirit of God ever says "Jesus is accursed!" and no one can say "Jesus is Lord" except in the Holy Spirit. Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit; and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord; ...

1 Corinthians 10:31 ESV So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.

Romans 14:21 ESV It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble.

Romans 14:1-23 ESV As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. ...

John 5:39 ESV You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me,

John 1:1 ESV In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Luke 24:27 ESV And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he interpreted to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning himself.

Luke 6:46 ESV "Why do you call me 'Lord, Lord,' and not do what I tell you?

Matthew 28:19-20 ESV Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."

Jeremiah 31:33 ESV But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Psalm 69:30 ESV I will praise the name of God with a song; I will magnify him with thanksgiving.

Psalm 30:4 ESV Sing praises to the Lord, O you his saints, and give thanks to his holy name.

Psalm 21:13 ESV Be exalted, O Lord, in your strength! We will sing and praise your power.

Numbers 3:1-51 ESV These are the generations of Aaron and Moses at the time when the Lord spoke with Moses on Mount Sinai. These are the names of the sons of Aaron: Nadab the firstborn, and Abihu, Eleazar, and Ithamar. These are the names of the sons of Aaron, the anointed priests, whom he ordained to serve as priests. But Nadab and Abihu died before the Lord when they offered unauthorized fire before the Lord in the wilderness of Sinai, and they had no children. So Eleazar and Ithamar served as priests in the lifetime of Aaron their father. And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, ...

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I love you all, beloved brothers and sisters...:HeartThrob: :cloud9:

[Michelle]

God is bigger than all of that.  Quite literally.

Every single wicked thing that has ever happened on this earth by every single person that has ever been born here - hasn't gotten much further than our atmosphere.

God is about 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ^x1000 multiverses wide, long, and tall, and bigger (being infinite)

Stop worrying so much.  You're fretting like he isn't in control.

And as for conspiracy...its conspiracy...>_>  People act like Satan is nigh omnipresent with the way they want to find him in literally everything (except in themselves...ironically)

A great deal of all of this kind of conspiracy theory "Satan is in your drinking water!!!" nonsense - is nothing more than Satan worship in itself.  And that's the greater danger, getting us away from focusing on Christ and God's great power, and already victorious wonder - and having us to focus on walling ourselves in or having us fight an exhausting battle to the death, killing ourselves, in an ever strained effort of trying to find Satan in everything, and trying to fight that Satan that is supposedly in everything.  Just because "They" tell us that Satan is in this, or that, or otherwise.

Focussing on God and positive, healthy stuff is good. It doesn't mean we can stuff our heads in the sand and it doesn't give us the right to ignore our responsibilities as Christians. We ought to warn those we preached the gospel to. People can't just read, watch or listen to anything they want. Deception is everywhere and only the Word of God can be trusted when it comes to these things. But if you don't care, it's not like I can force you to. All I can do is pray for you and think about what Jesus is going to say when Jesus ask you why you didn't take your responsibility as Christian. Some other people like Molly care about the truth so they will seriously search these things for themselves. We are Christ's disciples and one of our responsibilities is to warn people against danger and deception and refer people to the Word of God. I've been studying that stuff for months and it's very much real. And I can assure you that the threat is very real and very serious. He is in control, but we have a responsibility to warn those we preach or minister to against danger and deception. You know I am right. Paul says that good Christians admonish each other? Well, I feel like I have to admonish some people. Not judging or condemning. Just reminding the important of our responsibilities as Christians. And when are you gonna tell the people when they ask you why only the hell-fire-eternal torment-false gospel Christians warn them against that kind of danger and deception? You want to admonish me about something? Feel free to do so. Learning? I'm asking for just that. If I can't take it, I don't give it.

With love,

Your sister in Christ.