the soul

[Molly]

That's why I've been saying, though perhaps no one caught it...


That he will "appear" in our mouth!

The Word of God made flesh in us!

ssshhh...now you're sounding like a Protestant [Reformation type].   :laughing7:


Job 19:26
And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:

[Molly]

That's why when He comes, His reward is with Him. Children are a reward of the Lord. Our soul is to birth a SON! The firstfruits of the womb that bears, the firstfruits receives a double portion of inheritance = soul and spirit back in Holy union.

That, btw, is one of the most beautiful things I have ever heard preached.


Hebrews 9:28
So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

[Beloved Servant]

lol, well, if that's their message sign me up!

That's why the Israelites had to fight the Philistines, but were afraid, they has no swords, which is the Spirit within, so David, a type of Christ, slew Goliath, the old man, with one stone right between the eyes, the mind, so now we renew our minds by putting on the Mind of Christ as He covers our soul/senses with the anointing.

[Nathan]

One more step to that Beloved Servant . . .Goliath's "head" had to be removed . . .with a sword . . .even though the stone brought him down to the earth, his head still had to be removed . . .Christ is the head . .we are his body . . .

[micah7:9]

I  believed the doctrine of soul/woman, you all agree to believe in and post, until maybe a year ago. I have taught it just as you all have posted for many years. But I read "...man became a living soul." And I cannot find where in Genesis one where He gives a soul to the sea monsters, creeping creature, and fowl it just says they were alive/living. As I venture on to chapter two, I read verse seven as Ive noted, as I read further I read that the Lord God formed the beast and the fowl (2:19) I do not read the word soul again until
Gen 12:13  Say, I pray thee, thou art my sister: that it may be well with me for thy sake; and my soul shall live because of thee. and read that to say".. and I shall live
because of thee."
I have not yet found where man was given a soul. I find the word soul used to mean living, breath, life. I can find it interpreted as something else, like man has a soul but the Bible does not say man was given a soul. At least I have not found the verse. It seems to me that the Body-Soul-Spirit teaching is a trinity teaching and I no longer accept the trinity theory hypothosis. Have not for years. I would greatly appreciate it if any of you can lead me to the light where man has a soul or that man was given a soul, where it is taught in the Book, rather than the doctrine of men. I believe that what Im saying probably goes awry of my mentors and that saddens me. I do not believe understanding the soul as a living creature hinders the understanding of Heb.4:12 "... dividing asunder of soul([life] the way you live) and spirit"
Peace and Love Through Jesus

[Nathan]

If I follow the "spirit dwelling in flesh manifests a soul" perspective, I don't necessarily "need" a Scripture passage to tell me animals have souls, the pattern is already there.  When a spirit dwells in a body, a soul manifests as a result.  For me, the difference between the soul of a man and the soul of an animal is that man became a 'living" soul.  He became "spiritually alive" through the breath of the Father entering into the flesh of a man.

[Beloved Servant]

The Scriptures say that we are created in His Image which, then, begs the question:

Does God have a soul?

For if He does, than do we.

[micah7:9]

If I follow the "spirit dwelling in flesh manifests a soul" perspective, I don't necessarily "need" a Scripture passage to tell me animals have souls, the pattern is already there.  When a spirit dwells in a body, a soul manifests as a result.  For me, the difference between the soul of a man and the soul of an animal is that man became a 'living" soul.  He became "spiritually alive" through the breath of the Father entering into the flesh of a man.

But then are you not doing just what man does, work up a doctrine? How come we cant begin with the first time the word soul is used and use that as the foundation? Man became a living soul, all living creatures are souls. The breath of life is the Spirit, the same Spirit as Gen 1:2 "... and the Spirit of God fluttering on the face of the waters,:
That Spirit causes the natural event of mankind breathing :and man is a living soul.
Animals Gen 1:30  ".. every creeping thing on the earth, in which is breath of life," are living creatures (souls) The Book is explaining its self, why dont we build on that?

[micah7:9]

To ask the question ..does God have a soul (a breathing creature)? 
Im no tryng to be sarcastic, but that would be the question as far as what a soul is.

[Beloved Servant]

Jesus breathes in
and
Jesus breathes out.

[Molly]

Jesus breathes in
and
Jesus breathes out.

Jesus is the soul of the living God.


John 14:9
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: I'm back.....I'm digging right now.....while I was off and busy, He dropped into my spirit reminding me of a word I found in the Hebrew one day this week.....looking for the word, but it meant roughly, "to split" and I was thinking at the time, how does this meaning go with this word?

And when I had that thought, He dropped into my spirit that there was a connection between the womb veil that is split to receive the seed, and the septum of the nose (He breathed into his nostrils) that is "split" as in, divided. And lo and behold, there is a man's name that helped build the wall, whose name means, "SPLIT NOSE". And so, digging to find this thread of gold.....anybody want to help??? Blessings...

[Beloved Servant]

4 Who wills (Jesus Christ is His Will) that all mankind be saved and come into a realization of the truth (I AM the Truth).

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Ok, what I've found so far, and I did look this word up this week; cleave as in him cleaving unto his wife, means "to split". So God "cleaved" unto His wife, the soul of Adam by breathing into his split nostrils??? He planted "seed" in the "womb" and it brought forth the first son, Adam....Still digging....throwing stuff out there waiting for the image to take "form".....

[jabcat]

When He Comes

...wait until the Master comes, who will both put light on the things hidden in the darkness and make apparent the counsels of the hearts.. I Cor. 45 (TCB)

[thinktank]

Hello I have arrived. What? why you looking at me like that, Ok im going to leave, my peace I leave to you

:happy3: :happy3:

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Found the word I was looking at this week that I couldn't figure out why "to split open" was included in the meaning....it's here....it's the word "thinketh". And notice it has to do with a man's heart/soul....

Prov. 23:7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink , saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.

Strong's Number:   08176    
Original Word Word Origin
r[X primitive root
Transliterated Word TDNT Entry
Sha`ar TWOT - 2438
Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech
shaw-ar'    Verb  

Definition
to split open, reason out, calculate, reckon, estimate
(Qal) to calculate Pr 23:7  

[jabcat]

Hello I have arrived. What? why you looking at me like that, Ok im going to leave, my peace I leave to you

:happy3: :happy3:

clarify/expound?

[thinktank]

I don't want to downplay your revelation Card, but to me the splitting of Adam was simply Gods operation taking out woman from man, for Adam came from the earth but woman came from man, so to me it not about soul/spirit, but about taking out a part of Adam the x chromosome if you will and then double it. (Bit more complex than this, but that's a good analogy I think)

Because to me there is no difference between the original Adam who is described as a living soul and then Adam who has been "operated" on by God when he feel into sleep, for he springs up the same man, not as half the man, i.e his soul/Eve split from him, but springs up delighted that another person is there to help him and be company for him and he names her Eve. I think if something as drastic as Adams soul was ripped from him, then he would have noticed somthing very different, but he does not notice anything, and to me, nothing about Adam changed, even his rib was not changed, but only that God took the design of Adam and multiplied him, and changed it enough to produce Eve. :2c:

[thinktank]

Hello I have arrived. What? why you looking at me like that, Ok im going to leave, my peace I leave to you

:happy3: :happy3:

clarify/expound?

I was acting a fool  :icon_joker: :icon_jokercolor: arriving at the wrong place at the wrong time, look at your post, then mine.

[Molly]

Found the word I was looking at this week that I couldn't figure out why "to split open" was included in the meaning....it's here....it's the word "thinketh". And notice it has to do with a man's heart/soul....

Prov. 23:7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink , saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.

Beautiful!


[as a man] "thinketh"

H8176
שׁער
shâ‛ar
shaw-ar'
A primitive root; to split or open, that is, (literally, but only as denominative from H8179) to act as gate keeper (see H7778); (figuratively) to estimate: - think.


H8179
שׁער
sha‛ar
shah'-ar
From H8176 in its original sense; an opening, that is, door or gate: - city, door, gate, port (X -er).


"in his heart" [so is he]

H5315
נפשׁ
nephesh
neh'-fesh
From H5314; properly a breathing creature, that is, animal or (abstractly) vitality; used very widely in a literal, accommodated or figurative sense (bodily or mental): - any, appetite, beast, body, breath, creature, X dead (-ly), desire, X [dis-] contented, X fish, ghost, + greedy, he, heart (-y), (hath, X jeopardy of) life (X in jeopardy), lust, man, me, mind, mortality, one, own, person, pleasure, (her-, him-, my-, thy-) self, them (your) -selves, + slay, soul, + tablet, they, thing, (X she) will, X would have it.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WkyTwXa4Tw




Psalm 24:7
Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.


[Who is the King of Glory?  The LORD of Hosts.  He is the King of Glory!]

[jabcat]

Hello I have arrived. What? why you looking at me like that, Ok im going to leave, my peace I leave to you

:happy3: :happy3:

clarify/expound?

I was acting a fool  :icon_joker: :icon_jokercolor: arriving at the wrong place at the wrong time, look at your post, then mine.

OK, so flip the order then, and it flows...I thought it was confusing, but now I think I get it.  Thanks.

[Molly]

It's just what everyone keeps saying--

The kingdom of God is within--

The garden of Eden is within the heart/soul--

But there is only one Way [back] in--

24So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

--Gen 3

[Beloved Servant]

Molly!

I was just reading that scripture!

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9:  :thumbsup: I'm still here, still digging for gold....