The fear of Eternity

Mickiel · February 02, 2022, 12:21:55 PM

Salvation is not some kind of doctrine that is too good to be true. It's just really is too good to be true to believers who have been salvation starved. They try to give unbelievers a hard time and steal their get out of jail free card. They have a hard time .mostly from other believers who are seriously handcaped. There exist a very hardcore fight between these two points of view. A tug of war between factions. In Luke 5:32 Jesus revels that he came not to call one of these factions of believers , but to call sinners , or unbelievers , to repentance. The true scope of salvation is that it is for all sinners and in Romans 3:23 that all have sinned, so that all will be called. It's a done deal no matter how much believers fight each other. That fight is just a smokescreen. And the whole world has been mined with deadly bombs set to go off when a believer is called to the truth.

Mickiel · February 03, 2022, 11:25:29 PM

God is our rock and fortress, Prov. 31:3 for the sake of his name , lead and guide us. We have to take this to heart , our deepest belief comes from our heart , or our consciousness , and above all else , guard your heart , for everything we do flows from it. Prov. 4:23. A spiritual heart is the supreme consciousness. All our thoughts , emotions , sensations guide us in the inner and outer dimensions of our known thought processing the spiritual screen of sights and experiences. It is through the heart that we receive righteousness , righteousness cannot come from a wicked heart.

If you ever watched lions go for the kill by biting the neck of its prey , Satan will always go for the heart , the consciousness of the human. The spiritual heart is the key to understanding universal salvation, receiving our deepest fulfillment and the doorway to experiencing profound peace , gratitude , joy , safety and unconditional love. And your whole armour of God is already made, your spirit is in conjunction with that heavenly garment can fit you one by one, always ready to fit you with each fruit of the spirit.

Mickiel · February 04, 2022, 05:10:17 AM

I have known some wicked people , and surprisingly some will listen , and ask some stunning questions. I used to go to prisons and testify. Whew man , some of them were rough. They would tell us the worst hall is the100th hall. I remember walking down that corridor, a bit scared and nervous. Some real wicked people were there , so bad they would never let them leave. I remember one prisoner was frightening. He robbed a store and killed all the employees and customers, just killed everyone. I asked him why kill so many people, he simply said "Because they were there." Oh I was ready to leave then. Im thinking ,( man let me out of this place). Then the guy said he would come to church with me. The other church members said, hey ,you got saving power. I never went back in there. I was only 19.

They used to tell me only what I do for Christ will last. I told them I think it's best to leave that one alone. But I would tell them they all are saved and That God is the Savior of all men, especially those who believe. I told them that the first part of that verse includes everyone in this jail. Jesus gave himself a ransom for all prisoner's..That he is hope. I started to get more comfortable the more I
talked . I started doing more witnessing, it became fun and more meaningful. But I still never went back to that prison. Universalist don't do much witnessing , those Jehovah Witnesses are witnessing all over the globe. They don't know much truth, but what little they know, they go door to door and witness. I tried it a few times with some friends I know who are Witnesses . It never worked because my belief was not like theirs.so they decided I had to go. And put me out.

I. Remember going to God and asking why I never fit into any church.i did not know till years later that God had other plans for me.

Mickiel · February 04, 2022, 12:33:41 PM

Some of the jailed men acted like they hated us I think partly because my consultants we're teaching damnation.. in the end of that experience I had with the JWs , they and some of the prisoners just hated me. John 15:19 Jesus taught that if you were of he world it would embrace you , and conversely if your not of the world it would hate you

Mickiel · February 04, 2022, 01:00:23 PM

So I tried the 7th day Adventist group , I was yanked out of there in a month , and not by another church. I ignored why God pulled me out of the 7th day Adventists , and joined the world wide church. I was so impressed with them that I stayed about 20 years. I really liked some of them, to this day I keeping touch with many of them, and they know I am not returning. They had a big war in their church and split into may different factions. They had their "First falling away", ln their minds the split proved they were Gods chosen ones. The Jehovah witnesses and worldwide church of God really believe that. And if you don't they put you out. Many churches believe themselves to be Gods chosen people. The churches are not but the people are. All churches of the world are Gods people , they just can't deal with this powerful dynamic of truth that mutes thier doctrines that For demands they give up and turn away from these distorted doctrines .

All these believers stuck to their churches , they are lost and turned out . The salvation bus will pick them up last but God will greet them first in the kingdom.

Mickiel · February 04, 2022, 11:20:19 PM

[quote author=Mickiel link=topic=15688.msg219974#msg219974

All these believers stuck to their churches , they are lost and turned out . The salvation bus will pick them up last but God will greet them first in the kingdom.
[/quote]

The phrase " the first shall be last, and the last first could have something to do with God and Christ being Alpha and Omega. They're also the first and the last. It could also mean that the first ones called and chosen , will be the last ones to understand the whole truth. It could mean the last called will be the first chosen. I don't know, I am unsure about it. What do you think.

Mickiel · February 05, 2022, 10:26:34 PM

Not many wise people are called, not many noble are called. He chose the weak ,the base things , the foolish things. Base things means the lowest part. I wonder what difference it would make when any human beings like this are first or last. If you been called and chosen your a case job. Nothing to take pride in.

Mickiel · February 07, 2022, 06:41:39 AM

In 1Corinth. 1:27 these moves made here are not checkers , it's more like chess.God moves his installment of shame to effect the wise thinking.God moves the weak pieces to confound the mighty. He's winning the game when he should be loosing. But they are trying to beat God with intelligence , wealth , and their nobility to obtain the calling. They're totally opposite to what God is looking for. He's calling the foolish, the term used for foolishness is the English word "Moron".

Gives you something to think about doesn't it. But not everyone called is like that , God is more interested in how people perceive them. And the way he wants those called to behave themselves.

Mickiel · February 07, 2022, 08:28:39 AM

In this spiritual chess one of your moves needs to be 1Pet.5:6 , Humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God. That he may exalt you in due time. God loves to give grace. He resist the proud and gives grace to the humble. James 4:6. In vs 10 it says humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord , and he shall life you up. Begin to love peace , mercy, justice and forgiveness.

So the pathology of God is for his followers to be humble and submit themselves to however he reveals our to. He does not want you to do things through strife or vain glory, but In lowliness of mind esteem others better than yourselves. Let this mind be in you which is in Christ Jesus. So how do we get the 🤑 mind of Christ. We'll its given to believers through the Spirit of God. You can know you have it if these attributes are coming out of you; Virtue, patience , humility , kindness , goodness, love and joy. Other words , the fruit 🍑🍓 of the Spirit.

Mickiel · February 08, 2022, 08:59:56 AM

I think it' would be very true to state that after the Spirit landed upon Christ that the fruit of the spirit just came out of him all day, everyday. He was Gods beloved Son in whom he was well pleased. I think it would be quite something if God was well pleased with me , or any of us. Just thinking about it gives me goose buttons. Even more goose bumps if he was angry at me.the calling of God is just a matter of time. Every human will be called and chosen during the kingdom of God. The spirit will be given to the whole population, literally poured out on every corner , in every home.

A great roar will sound out over all the heavens and the earth. More exciting than the pouring out of the spirit of in the book of Acts. People will really think God is burning humans. But this last great day will be a first great day for us all. The forerunners of salvation will finally begin to sing to God in unison. Praise his Holy Name.God will wipe away our tears , deal with our fears, remove our fears and prep our consciousness to begin to think and understand the ways of righteousness. Oh how I look forward to this great day.

Mickiel · February 08, 2022, 09:27:14 AM

The first days of our Salvation, if I can say that , we will need to be aroused in the spirit. We will need to cast off the darkness And put on the Lord Jesus. Awake out of our sleep. In Romans 13:11-14. Put on the Lord Jesus and dump many sinful ways , and make no more room for foolishness and the luster thereof. In Rev 22:17-21, all humans can drink of the water of life freely. The grace of our Lord will be with us.

Mickiel · February 10, 2022, 07:36:26 PM

Salvation is God pleasure. Look at Rev. 4:10-11.The verse shows the 24 Elders fall down before him and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They all just removed their own crowns and cast them before the throne. Now these are the most high beings besides Christ that we know of. Verse 11 says that he created all things for his pleasure ,even those things Christ created, for his Father's pleasure. Examine what is being revealed here, God is responsible for all creations , and takes no pleasure in the death of the evil. Ezk. 33:11. Salvation then trump's death. It trumps all religious efforts to control it or paste it with evil.

Mickiel · February 11, 2022, 07:27:49 PM

God is responsible for our salvation and it even goes deeper than that. In Ex. 4:11, "Who has made man's mouth? Or who makes him mute or deaf , or seeing or blind.(Caution this for mature audience's only .), Is it not I , the Lord." Many well meaning believers will try to let God off the hook Parents of disabled children say God is sorry that happens but that he cannot stop genetics .In Isaiah 45:7 God says he formed light and created darkness , he can make peace and create evil. I the Lord DO all these things , meaning he did it in the past , he's doing it now , and will do it in the future.

Mickiel · February 12, 2022, 07:03:57 AM

Job found out just how responsible God is, in Job 42:2 , I know you can do all things , no plan of yours can be thwarted. This means the plan of salvation cannot be stopped. thwarted means prevented. Look closely at Job 23:13" But he is in one mind , and who can turn him?" What his soul desires that he does! Gods plans are a predestined reality. Our salvation is like that, so have more faith. God knows that he gets what he wants. That's why he knows his plans for you will come to past.

It's his responsibility that none of us be lost. So we should not live by bread alone , but by every word that proceedth out of the month of God. We can be destroyed for our lack of knowledge .

Mickiel · February 12, 2022, 12:37:23 PM

Quote from: Mickiel on February 12, 2022, 07:03:57 AM
Job found out just how responsible God is, in Job 42:2 , I know it you can do all things , no plan of yours can be thwarted. This means the plan of salvation cannot be stopped. thwarted means prevented. Look closely at Job 23:13" But he is in one mind , and who can turn him?" What his soul desires that he does! Gods plans are a predestined reality. Our salvation is like that, so have more faith. God knows that he gets what he wants. That's why he knows his plans for you will come to past.

It's his responsibility that none of us be lost. So we should not live by bread alone , but by every word that proceedth out of the month of God. We can be destroyed for our lack of knowledge .

Destroyed here means more of ruined or lost. It can mean overpowered or smashed. I praise God that even the worst of some things thrown at us, we can survive. This is why I believed God threw Satan into the garden of Eden , to overpower them, that's all he needed, Jesus was scheduled to take over from there, but only after the wilderness , 40 days of fasting, no help from God, and the calling of the disciples , then Satan is allowed even more power on earth.,fear being one of them.

In1Corinth.7:5 Satan has power over many believers because of their lack of self control. In 2 Corinth. 11:13, Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning , and he goes after our consciousness to somehow lead us astray from your sincere devotion to Christ

Mickiel · February 13, 2022, 06:58:02 AM

Quote from: Mickiel on February 12, 2022, 12:37:23 PM
Quote from: Mickiel on February 12, 2022, 07:03:57 AM
Job found out just how responsible God is, in Job 42:2 , I know it you can do all things , no plan of yours can be thwarted. This means the plan of salvation cannot be stopped. thwarted means prevented. Look closely at Job 23:13" But he is in one mind , and who can turn him?" What his soul desires that he does! Gods plans are a predestined reality. Our salvation is like that, so have more faith. God knows that he gets what he wants. That's why he knows his plans for you will come to past.

It's his responsibility that none of us be lost. So we should not live by bread alone , but by every word that proceedth out of the month of God. We can be destroyed for our lack of knowledge .

Destroyed here means more of ruined or lost. It can mean overpowered or smashed. I praise God that even the worst of some things thrown at us, we can survive. This is why I believed God threw Satan into the garden of Eden , to overpower them, that's all he needed, Jesus was scheduled to take over from there, but only after the wilderness , 40 days of fasting, no help from God, and the calling of the disciples , then Satan is allowed even more power on earth.,fear being one of them.

In1Corinth.7:5 Satan has power over many believers because of their lack of self control. In 2 Corinth. 11:13, Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning , and he goes after our consciousness to somehow lead us astray from your sincere devotion to Christ

[/quot

Doesn't the statement "No help from God" , sound frightening and in error? Well yes it does. And who wants to be the one it happens to? God used this method on Adam and Eve. During the couples interrogation where was God? Satan had his way with them and was probably under orders from God to spare their lives. But they basically were on their own with the serpent. This happened to Job, whom God basically bragged on. Rack him up, bowl him over, kill his servants and children, but spare his life. God was developing special historical keys ,that can open history to go into his direction. This is also why God is so misunderstood.

No matter what God does men will gripe and complain., Men think it could have been done better, listen , if God does something a certain way , that means there is no better way of doing it.

Mickiel · February 13, 2022, 10:35:01 AM

God is responsible for human salvation , Christ is the Trojan horse strategy wherein all of the defenses of this sinful world are torn down. A great war is being waged, but Gods plans continue fertilize this giant womb. Shall I bring to the birth , and not cause to bring forth: saith the Lord; shall I cause to bring forth and then shut the womb?Says thy God. This is salvation reasoning. In other words he has given birth to billions. Religion and this world continue to misunderstand Universal salvation. Jesus gave his life , the need for grace and forgiveness is covered. In Isaiah 66:9. God will not forget his compassion for his hard working womb.

Mickiel · February 13, 2022, 09:10:29 PM

God is so responsible for us and our sin that he made him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf. Once a believer really believes this , they are an imidiate threat to Satan and shame. The more this believer understands and stacks on knowledge , the more of a threat they become to world evangelism. Satan has world evangelism tied down in an impressive knot. yet if God has particular singular interest in a believer , he will have them study and show themselves approved by God , and they need not be ashamed. They become true witnesses who rightly divide the truth. They don't get mixed up , this knowledge becomes a way of life. And they can explain that in any situation. 2. Tim.2:15

Must Jesus bear the cross alone and all the world go free, no there is a cross for everyone and there is one for me.

Mickiel · February 13, 2022, 11:06:42 PM

One of the more serious reasons we study is to learn how to study . You learn to internalize God's word so you can communicate with him better . You want to be right in the way you view God's word. Show him in prayer what you learned, and seek his approval . Show him you have learned it, and ask him to help you understand it, and know it from different angles , and how to recognize when you are wrong. When you rightly divide the truth, when you recognize the truth, you have absorbed it, now you can share it with others, divide it to them .

I know there are different interpretations of this, but I see this angle of it. Because the world needs this view ,NO, because the church needs it ..

Mickiel · February 14, 2022, 11:59:36 AM

So it's a good thing if you develop various sundry understandings of the bible. Sundry meaning various, several kinds . When we share with each other , we can help each other find error, or just find roads around a mountain blockade by Satan. Satan has developed some serious blockades to the truth. He blocks one route only then to provide his way of understanding where things are going. He has millions upon millions of Christians ready to starve salvation from a dying world.

Satan has many well intended believers whom he has confused and has created hundreds of religions , where he can park them in old spaces , comfort spaces where he has put them asleep whole churches into the same old deceptive space. In Matt.23:13," But woe to you , Scribes and pharisee hypocrites, you shut off the Kingdom from men. So tight are their rules they can't enter themselves.

Mickiel · February 15, 2022, 04:44:01 AM

I am stunned at the term " Christian" in scripture , the term appears twice in scripture, and one I dispute which can be a
third time in 1Pet. 4:16 Acts 26:28 and 11:16 are the other two. Only 3 times in scripture. I find that puzzling. It seems to be a term that the Romans invented and begin calling them Christians . In some studies it is said that the term is really meant as an insult ,, though I am unsure of that. Acts 11:26 is interesting, it says the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch, they didn't invent the term, nor was it a term sanctioned by Jesus or God. They called themselves "The way".

Mickiel · February 15, 2022, 10:43:50 PM

The term "Christian" , I think was first coined by the Romans and was more likely meant as a mocking insult. The believers of that time just eventually became known by the term so much , they just accepted it. Which I think was wrong for them to do, so they just went along with it. It's nowhere used in the old testament. Before his conversion Paul sought out those belonged to"The Way". Acts 9:2. This was a serious chess move by Satan , which had the term born with a highly ignored history.
.
At the time that believers got the appellation Christian.it was common for the Greeks to give satirical nicknames to particular groups. Those loyal to the Roman General Pompey we're dubbed Pompeians. The followers of General Sulla we're called "Sullanians. The Greeks knew the behavior and speech of these people were like Christ so they dubbed them Christians. Now the term has a life of its own. But Satan has the term. Oh how he has it.

Mickiel · February 17, 2022, 06:51:26 AM

I highly recommend " Pagan Christianity" by Frank Viola, it's a stunning read.

Mickiel · February 17, 2022, 08:26:57 AM

Some believers place the term Christianity up there with salvation. They feel that Christians own the bible , they do not, the bible has no copyright. They feel that Christians wrote the bible, they did not. They think God and Christ are Christians , they are not. And neither God or Christ have endorsed the term Christianity. Is it a sin to be a Christian I doubt it, but I do believe if a true believer makes a serious study about the term, the religion is not what it appears to be.

Mickiel · February 17, 2022, 06:46:49 PM

So if you were Satan , how would you deceive a whole world, Rev. 12:9. Well if I were Satan , I would use religion . There are over 4,200 religions that span across this globe. False religion is the perfect vehicle to deceive the human populaces. And who leads the pack? Christianity. There are around 2.3 billion Christians worldwide. I would do it in a manner that they agree with . Then I would enlist Islam, and gobble up all 1.9 billion of them. Just those two religions has over half the world population. Satan is not stupid , he wants to confuse humanity's belief systems. Atheist present no threat, Satan would rather have blinded believers in this unholy matramonie.

News:

The fear of Eternity