The fear of Eternity

Mickiel · June 12, 2021, 12:22:40 AM

The earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof, meaning everyone who dwells in it. Eternity is being primed for all of mankind, he is not renting space , our place on the quest list is secure. I am amazed that God and Christ know all men. So many of us, yet individually known by him. It's incredible. Our places are made, our names on them. New names, new bodies or forms, new addresses. Many places to worship in, new earth to walk on.

And plenty of time to get to know God.

Mickiel · June 12, 2021, 04:14:15 AM

Now unto him who is able to keep us from falling, the one true God our maker,

World without end.
Thank you for your love.

Mickiel · June 13, 2021, 03:46:43 AM

Thank you Father for your love of all, even the worse of us. Your salvation is out only hope , your love our insurance. Jesus said he came not to destroy men's lives but to save them. We love you Saviour of the world. Lead us into eternity and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Mickiel · June 14, 2021, 04:34:28 AM

Eternity is for the world , salvation is for the world. Jesus did not start a secret church , he wanted the world to know God. John 17:23,' that the world may know that the Father sent me. Vs21 that the world may believe. Jesus knew that God so loved the world. He was sent to save the world.

Mickiel · June 15, 2021, 12:04:08 AM

My fear has been a problem for me outside of eternity. I wrestle with it.. it even affects my faith. I fear being overconfident and confuse it with faith. I don't want to think In ways
That seem like I am being forward with God and overstepping my bounds. It's weird.

jabcat · June 15, 2021, 06:24:31 AM

Could at least some of that be a type of OCD issues? In other words, "not really you", but the anxiety within you? (Don't ask me how I might know that ;) ).

Ross · June 15, 2021, 08:42:28 AM

Overconfident, to me, is when I pat myself on the back and say,
"Look what I have done. "
The reality of our salvation being totally from and in Christ helps me acknowledge that He has literally covered every aspect of the requirement to enter into heaven boldly before the throne of our Father.
Would seem to be why we are encouraged to take up the cross daily- ergo put our efforts to death and rely totally on Him. This seems to be part of our growth in Christ.

Mickiel · June 15, 2021, 04:18:53 PM

Quote from: jabcat on June 15, 2021, 06:24:31 AM
Could at least some of that be a type of OCD issues? In other words, "not really you", but the anxiety within you? (Don't ask me how I might know that ;) ).

Oh yes for sure.

jabcat · June 15, 2021, 07:12:33 PM

There's some sort of mystery here. Paul may have termed it "the flesh battling against the spirit". He also talked about "I, yet not I". And finally, "it's no longer me that does it, but the sin that dwells in me". So I think, somewhere in there, there's some comfort and relief if we can find it.

And finally, he says we will be completely delivered of it. So be it.

Blessings.

Mickiel · June 16, 2021, 12:06:15 AM

There is comfort in it. When Paul says "It's no longer I but the sin in me"; sin then can have a hypnotic effect , and we are seduced. We can take an interest in sin, James 1:14-15, we are drawn away and enticed ,and sin is conceived , or we are now conscious of it. The mind games begin.

I am happy we can be delivered from this seduction of the believers mind.

Mickiel · June 16, 2021, 12:11:47 AM

Quote from: Ross on June 15, 2021, 08:42:28 AM
Overconfident, to me, is when I pat myself on the back and say,
"Look what I have done. "
The reality of our salvation being totally from and in Christ helps me acknowledge that He has literally covered every aspect of the requirement to enter into heaven boldly before the throne of our Father.
Would seem to be why we are encouraged to take up the cross daily- ergo put our efforts to death and rely totally on Him. This seems to be part of our growth in Christ.

Amen.

Mickiel · June 16, 2021, 02:17:10 AM

In eternity there will be no need for the Sun , God will be the light. This proves that God can emit enormous energy without hurting anyone. Stunning control of himself. We are very fortunate that God is not given to hissy fits , his power could crack the fabric of reality,he is the fabric of reality. To emit the power of the Sun and light up all of the Kingdom, is simply astounding. Incredible
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Then for God to pivot , take every living human and change them is evolutionary. We evolve from a transition of terror to a new creation
We will not be observers of this, we will participate.

Mickiel · June 16, 2021, 05:10:56 AM

In eternity great change will sizzle, in Jer 24:7, and I will give them a heart to know me,the whole heart 💜. God starting change from the inside

Ross · June 16, 2021, 08:29:30 AM

Quote from: Mickiel on June 16, 2021, 02:17:10 AM
In eternity there will be no need for the Sun , God will be the light. This proves that God can emit enormous energy without hurting anyone. Stunning control of himself. We are very fortunate that God is not given to hissy fits , his power could crack the fabric of reality,he is the fabric of reality. To emit the power of the Sun and light up all of the Kingdom, is simply astounding. Incredible
.
Then for God to pivot , take every living human and change them is evolutionary. We evolve from a transition of terror to a new creation
We will not be observers of this, we will participate.

We can't even look at the sun for 5min, and God has more power than that: which seems to indicate the difference between flesh and spirit. The spirit will be like God in every way, so we too will be doing absolutely everything differently to our current capabilities.
No wonder Paul says to focus on the things to come.

Mickiel · June 17, 2021, 02:57:34 AM

The spirit in us will be similar to God , I don't think in every way. I think God has seven spirits , nothing else will ever be like that. God is beyond explanation ,he alone is what he is , in my view. I even think God has upwards to seven different consciousness.

Mickiel · June 17, 2021, 08:17:34 PM

Rev. 4: 5 says on God's throne are seven lamps of fire which are the seven spirits of God . This is one reason I believe this.

Mickiel · June 18, 2021, 01:06:32 AM

Quote from: Mickiel on June 17, 2021, 08:17:34 PM
Rev. 4: 5 says on God's throne are seven lamps of fire which are the seven spirits of God . This is one reason I believe this.

Of course this is speculation on my part ,but I believe it as of now. God having seven spirits is remarkable and helps explain how powerful God is. We all have one spirit. And usually what God gives a spirit, he gives a consciousness. Both are morphed into each other. Which is why I think God may have seven consciousness , which would be astounding.. what awesome power

Mickiel · June 18, 2021, 01:23:51 AM

Quote from: Mickiel on June 18, 2021, 01:06:32 AM
Quote from: Mickiel on June 17, 2021, 08:17:34 PM
Rev. 4: 5 says on God's throne are seven lamps of fire which are the seven spirits of God . This is one reason I believe this.

Rev.5:6 repeats that God has seven spirits and he will send them to earth. So God has what I call "Extension", or he can extend his spirits outside of himself. This is also how I believe Jesus is the firstborn of all creation, he was in the Father and God extended him outward to have his own life. Look at John 8:42, examine closely where Jesus said he came from," I proceeded forth and came from God." That sounds like a birth to me. In John 6:57 Jesus says he lives because of the Father. In John 5:26, notice, "For as a he Father has life in himself , he has given to the Son to have life in himself. So there was a time that he had not given that, which is of interest.
Of course this is speculation on my part ,but I believe it as of now. God having seven spirits is remarkable and helps explain how powerful God is. We all have one spirit. And usually what God gives a spirit, he gives a consciousness. Both are morphed into each other. Which is why I think God may have seven consciousness , which would be astounding.. what awesome power

Mickiel · June 18, 2021, 06:39:53 PM

Jesus then is life, the bread of life, John 6:48 ,in vs. 51 Jesus is the living bread that gives us eternal life. This is our salvation. In John 10:38," The Father is in me and I him. Again Jesus says he was in God. A holy morph that we will share as Christ becomes all and in all.

Mickiel · June 18, 2021, 07:57:53 PM

This makes me Wonder what does Christ in you mean? It can't be literal , so it is spiritual. Two people being so close to each other that they think alike , believe the same things , have similar characters , they trust and love one another. Both have the same spiritual DNA.

Mickiel · June 19, 2021, 02:03:23 AM

Jesus was in God . John 16:27-28 , For the Father himself loves you , because you love me and have believed" I came out from God''. Came out from God . As if he was inside him. Vs 28- I came forth From the Father. He was in and came out. The bond here is beyond words.
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Mickiel · June 19, 2021, 03:15:23 AM

Jesus again in John 14:11," Believe me , I am in the Father and the Father in me.' Believe because it's hard to believe. Difficult to understand. Vs 10 repeats this

Mickiel · June 19, 2021, 10:24:18 PM

Consider John 1:18", No man has seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the Fathers bosom, he has declared him." Notice -"In the Fathers bosom ", remember he came out from God, and was in the Fathers
bosom. This continual language suggest God gave birth to Jesus. I mean it's what I see. A woman's bosom is her stomach, inside her. So God has life in himself, in his bosom. John 5:26 he gave this power to Christ. So in John 6:50-51, the bread of life that comes down from heaven , comes from Gods bosom. Jesus proceeded forth and came from God, John 8:42. Proceeding from a womb,a bosom is a birth. God gave birth to Christ. In John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God , ( and I think the rest should have read " And the Word was in God.")In the beginning should have read -" In a beginning." These are speculation that make more sense to me. I understand it better this way.

Mickiel · June 20, 2021, 03:51:49 AM

I don't know if we can say 'Spiritual DNA', and that be correct , but I think you understand my use of it. What ever God is, we came from him. His spirit is our salvation. We are his offspring , he birthed us and we are now in his incubator , earth.

Mickiel · June 20, 2021, 08:44:48 PM

I am reminded , in an extraordinary fashion, of the mother sea turtle that comes ashore and has thousands of baby turtles in the sand. She left her natural environment , the water, and deposited her offspring on a totally different environment
Then she leaves them and returns to the sea
They will grow in a limited environment , nothing like the sea.

Erie simulation to how God did us. This world is not our home. And we must find the water and swim against the stream to get home. God sent Jesus to prepare the way. This hole he dug and placed us in is our unique incubator.

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