Hey all, i'm back after about 8 years and the first post i looked up had my name on it! this means God has me still on a journey that many on this forum have helped me with in the past.
here is my question.....is there a bible of sorts that takes the whole bible or most of it and translates it to show the allegorical or metaphorical or spiritual meaning of every passage?
claypot
Welcome back!
I have been here about two and a half years, so I don't know of you, but I look forward to getting to know you.
D.
I really dont think so claypot.
There are many commentaries that try to do what you speak of but really, as Jesus said, "I will speak to them in parables so that seeing they will not perceive and hearing they will not understand" so it is all about what the Holy Spirit, who "will take that which is mine and give it to you" and "lead you and guide you into all truth" is the best commentator as Jesus opens for us "mysteries hidden from the foundation of the world".
In study and meditation, in fellowship with the saints and fellow members of the body, in prayer for illumination the Holy Spirit unfolds the wonders of the mystery, Christ in you the hope of glory.
thanks for the replies and i agree BUT this forum is fantastic for searching out the 'spiritual' take on almost any subject so i'll probably get hooked on you all again!!! not a bad thing!
i've been digging into adam and eve and all the symbolism in that account. i am reading 2 books now and would like some opinions on them...........farrar capon "genesis the movie" i really like capon. he's left this mortal coil now but he seems like a great combination of a true love of God and a downright 'hoot'!
another book i am reading is andrew jukes 'types in genesis'
so whenever you see a thread that you think i might like let me know. i know pneuma (another old timer of this site, is he still around maybe under a different name?) but he was great at seeing the more spiritual side of things. but then again many of you are amazing tools of our Lord.
the early Christian theologian , Origen, was great at finding spiritual meanings for Bible passages...just a heads up.
Hello dear claypot !!!
I to see you back , I have come back also after some more lessons learned and to just trust in the Holy Spirit more and more
as our teacher and comforter .
We learn the spiritual meaning of the WORD OF GOD by becoming the sons of God as we also are experiencing what it means to be the son of mankind , God has made both for His glory and Jesus Christ come to prove it
The TRUTH really does set the sons of God free from the bondage the sons of man have been captive too for many ages and generations and history repeating itself over an over again ..
the WORD OF GOD is truth by By the Spirit of Truth we do come to knowledge of God though the Lord Jesus Christ , just keep asking Him , trusting in Him and loving Him , because He sure does LOVE us all and wants us to learn of Him and by Him , very much so ...
I agree with the many answers given by our spiritual kinfolk here .
We are connected through the LORD JESUS CHRIST BODY[tree of Life that has the seed in Itself ] , the WORD & SPIRIT OF TRUTH pure and Holy truth ..
Jesus Christ hung upon the cursed tree of knowlege of good and evil , being so pure and holy as the lamb of God in whom I do believe the Father chose to send at the appointed time to show the world [ even in the same blood of Abel being shed as a witness in the beginning speaks an even better WORD , cause Abel wanted revenge and Jesus said to FORGIVEN THEM FATHER they do not know what they are doing ] that was hidden for all the ages till HE COME TO BRING in the new covenant of grace upon mankind and destroy the works of Satan , Vengeance is mine says the Lord and I shall repay ,, ,Hebrews 9:15
Therefore Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, now that He has died to redeem them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.
Everyone born of woman being all of mankind, under the law of sin /error of death and darkness , than and even now , we are all born under the corruptible image ,bearing it till the Lord comes to bring the incorruptible Image to Light and knowlege of HIM by Holy Spirit and Fire melting the elements [corruptible image ].
So creating the sons of God and children of the day and light to shine in the dark places of our hearts , from among the sons of mankind ....
The dead / in Adam will hear His Voice and Shall LIVE BECAUSE OF HIM :HeartThrob:
Not so much a certain bible , Brother Claypot , but more of a work of God in you , breathing life INTO our dry bones ........
For me , seeing His living Word as in the Spirit of life and not seeing the BIBLE [WORD OF GOD ] in the flesh, carnal as death any longer It does take the Holy Spirit to teach us truth and comfort us as we both live and die at the same time /old man /nature suffers death daily seeing all the corruption in the world and the new man in Christ is being renewed daily seeing the LORDS WORD AS INCORRUPTIBLE SAVING GRACE . :HeartThrob:
great words rosered,
i have been seeing around me so much physical fleshly living, even the assembly of God church we attend (which is awesome) but even there i feel they are caught up in the physical to the point of upsetting the balance of spiritual and flesh. i am not blaming anyone and i know true change starts within me and that's probably why i'm here at tentmaker. this place dives into the spiritual like a duck to water and that feeds me in a good way.
i see God in the balance of all. the way the physical is set up....cold/hot, winter/summer, earth moon sun stars all spinning and moving perfectly, good days/harder days, david/goliath, cain/able, angels/demons.............. natural and spiritual.
if we don't see the natural and spiritual in every declaration of God via the Bible or creation then i think we are missing something huge.
i just want to know God in a real way.
let me add, a gigantic revelation to me anyway has been seeing adam as spirit and eve as soul. this is the basic simple version but it has so blown me away to see that i am adam and eve, we all are adam and eve. this may seem simple on the surface but it can bring one into an amazing personal friendship with our Father and His Son just by knowing who we are and what we are made up of.
this one thought (adam=spirit eve=soul) carries out perfectly throughout all scripture.pauls teaching on the husband and wife lines up. paul in timothy says it is the woman that was/is in the transgression not the man. 1tim 2.14 the divine spirit within me does not and cannot sin yet my soul constantly strives to dominate spirit. soul (eve) took charge in the garden then all hell broke loose. Jesus took charge back in the day even when Mary tried to dominate by getting Him to turn the water inito wine....He took charge, He put soul in it's proper place. the temptation in the wilderness was a great example of spirit over soul.
true CP things may be understood using the division you have; male/female. and the bridegroom cometh..and husband and wife are
one spirit/one flesh..to bring forth righteous offspring. Under law...the division of male female........under grace ONE..neither male
female/but one spirit/flesh[soul]. gathering......neither jew/greek etc. into one the Bride coming down out of heaven from God......
granted clean white linen.[see division in seating.segregation of temple areas..now a woman can freely enter the HOH/and gentiles
also.
in this world we see in the flesh many examples of the utter corruption of gender roles under the law..............division/not made
perfect under the law..but sin seizing the opportunity when the commandment came..and putting to death.a part of the results of
the transgression was the womans desire to be unto her husband..and the husband ruling/dominion over her.. In the image of
God[Spirit] He made them,male/female. many women in Israel allowed themselves to be divorced in the early christian days/rather than
be subjected/dominated by their husbands/under law..[ministry of death].in favour of the true bridegroom/husband/grace. if the same spirit of Christ
be in husband and wife..they are one spirit/flesh. if the husband be dead[under law] you are free to be married unto another.thus
the promised seed of the woman...come not from/through Adam/Joseph..but the true husband/God,Bridegroom/Christ.
the husband/bridegroom..gives himself up for her..that he may present her spotless and without blemish unto himself.
who knows..the believing wife may save her[unbelieving] husband..the believing husband his unbelieving wife[see the putting away
of unlawful wives under the law..when exiles returned]
no-one can serve two masters........a woman can not serve God and her husband..if the spirit in operation on her husband is
not the same spirit. Same situation as the man at his secular work..boss instructs him to do something against his conscience.
[see Daniel,Meshach,Abendag0..etc
Personally,I have suffered much because of the erronous male/female domination thing in the churches. LET GOD /LET HIS SPIRIT
RULE IN BOTH THE HUSBAND AND WIFE..let both of them be subject.[think the heavenly bride coming down out of heaven/New
Jerusalem is one spirit with Him?]PS..I'm spirit too.....a spirit creature made of the same spirit substance.
same can be said to shepherds/ministers in the churches.......the very reason I left/was called out..cant serve God and the ministers.
GOD/CHRIST HAVE THE AUTHORITY.
we can become unevenly yoked..some heap up heavy burdens impossible to bear..we can become unevenly yoked in the churches,
and through marriage
Jesus and the wine at thewedding banquet..He did this" Ask and ye shall receive ;" It was not yet His time for HIS WEDDING SUPPER..
..where He turns the water of life into great joy of man's heart. you will see me again..and your hearts will rejoice.Mary simply
called it to His attention.[heaven forbid if your wife call something to your attention and you think she is trying to dominate you!]
perhaps Jerusalem Above made the request? for her bridegroom son?
the incorruptible is one spirit/one flesh/UNION...God all in all
.,CP......glad you see God all in all ! Glad your back!
Exodus 10;4 10;11No! Have only the men go..since that is what you have been asking for....
Isaaih 53;7 and Songs 6;6
hi sheila,
lots of good stuff but i will comment on one thing you said to keep things simple and on track....
"Mary simply
called it to His attention.[heaven forbid if your wife call something to your attention and you think she is trying to dominate you!]"
you said the above about me saying the soul dominated the spirit in the garden. i would ask you if you see what eve did, when offering the apple to adam, if that was just eve calling adams attention to something?
i think it was much more than that.
again, good thoughts overall.
well,Eve was calling attention to Adam that she had partaken of it...and offered for him to likewise partake. God told Abraham to
'listen unto your wife" it does not follow that Mary was was trying to lead Jesus into error or sin. what makes the difference is
the spirit in operation behind each act. ideally..the Holy spirit in the husband and wife[help-meet/bring to your mind the things I spoke]
works in union to the edification of the household. add another adversarial spirit into the mix[serpent..lead into disobedience] and it's
a totally different scenario. I don't believ Mary prompted Jesus into an act of presumption/sin..it is as simple as that.up unto that
point He had not done a miracle..so I have no reason to think Mary expected that. I don't like impugning evil motive unto her,and
Corban may apply here,also.[nullify the law when ye say it is a gift dedicated unto God[Mark 7;10,11 For Moses said,honour
your Father and Mother,and anyone who curses his father and mother must be put to death. BUT YOU SAY..whatever help you
might otherwise have recieved from me is Corban[a gift dedicated unto God]then you no longer let him do ANYTHING for his father or
mother.. Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. the way I see it..Jesus was fulfilling the law
as God intended it....
i agree as to mary not impugning evil motive........ my point is that we all have adam and eve within as well as the serpent. we deal with these every day of our lives.
agreed. sometimes I am such a "girl" sometimes I have to" stand up like and take it like a man" ..but personally I'd rather trample the
serpent under my feet, and not have him within." :girlheart:
ty jabcat
sheila, i'm sure you mean "trample the serpent" :) just clarifying lest anyone misunderstand
:laugh: yep!
do you see the garden as our mind? the 2 trees as satan and Jesus? the trees as people.
don't get me wrong, i am a super practical guy that desires to apply God's words to my physical life but i just sense there is so much more just outside my reach. i really think we know so much just as we enter life as a baby and just before we exit yet in between we forget in relation to how much emphasis we apply to the natural without seeing God in this natural.
i know a lot of 'christianese' if you will but that does absolutely nothing for me. i want to acutally know and realize who i really am. i want to remember!
Quote from: claypot on August 30, 2017, 05:04:41 AM
i know a lot of 'christianese' if you will but that does absolutely nothing for me. i want to acutally know and realize who i really am. i want to remember!
I used to think a lot about Christ and life when I was at church; now I am no longer at church I live with Christ in reality; I.M.O that is from His work, not mine, His timing not mine;
This is why the statement of Gal 2;20 is a key for me;
"It is no longer I who lives, but Christ who lives in me."
recommend the focus on 1 John 3;1
" Look what kind of love the Father has given us, that we may be called the children of God; And such we are."
Children learn at their own rate and their own time; the father is the only one who decides when that time is right; we are encouraged to look, but need to rely on divine revelation, not our own.
Paul did heaps of stuff; had no say in his conversion, could not claim his power was doing the miracle stuff.
1 Cor 15;10,11 " I am what I am by the grace of God, and His grace towards me was not in vain.
No I worked harder than any of them,
YET NOT I, BUT THE GRACE OF GOD THAT IS WITH ME.
Whether then it was I or they, so we preach and you came to believe."
Hoping not to appear as negative, but rather the positive, when received, outweighs everything. Seek, and you shall find.
P.S
The spirit exceeds the flesh; no comparison really.
so appreciating those posts,Ross. re;Paul lamenting the body of death[that which I do not wish to do..etc] and then this power of grace
excelling ,the lawlessness abounding in his flesh[unable to do the good I desire..yes it is sin toknow to do good and do itnot]
......lawlessness abound andgrace abounding more abundantly. for my power is made perfect in weaknesses.
Quote from: Ross on August 30, 2017, 01:39:50 PM
Quote from: claypot on August 30, 2017, 05:04:41 AM
i know a lot of 'christianese' if you will but that does absolutely nothing for me. i want to acutally know and realize who i really am. i want to remember!
I used to think a lot about Christ and life when I was at church; now I am no longer at church I live with Christ in reality; I.M.O that is from His work, not mine, His timing not mine;
This is why the statement of Gal 2;20 is a key for me;
"It is no longer I who lives, but Christ who lives in me."
recommend the focus on 1 John 3;1
" Look what kind of love the Father has given us, that we may be called the children of God; And such we are."
Children learn at their own rate and their own time; the father is the only one who decides when that time is right; we are encouraged to look, but need to rely on divine revelation, not our own.
Paul did heaps of stuff; had no say in his conversion, could not claim his power was doing the miracle stuff.
1 Cor 15;10,11 " I am what I am by the grace of God, and His grace towards me was not in vain.
No I worked harder than any of them,
YET NOT I, BUT THE GRACE OF GOD THAT IS WITH ME.
Whether then it was I or they, so we preach and you came to believe."
Hoping not to appear as negative, but rather the positive, when received, outweighs everything. Seek, and you shall find.
Excellent choice of verses, Ross. Christ in us is the real deal. :thumbsup: :banana:
we definitely are His workmanship created in Christ Jesus.............we are His building......He certainly does work in us to will and to do of His good pleasure...............He even replaces hearts of stone with hearts of flesh at His will............He breathes life into us and puts 'flesh' on our bones..............
you all have reminded me of these truths and i have even experienced some of these, maybe all, i only have appreciated some to my bad.
do you see us as works completed yet in process? going from adam to christ. we are being made into His image.
hi! ..definitely made in His image.. He being the forerunner behind the veil and into God's Presence.. which, incidentally, is what interests me most of all, is life in God's Presence.. one day He being all in all.. And He counseling and teaching/speaking to all of us..
Truth sets free.. (and fills with joy and peace) - every day we can find U.R. plainly in His Word, either straightforward and obvious and, or the not as obvious..
:thumbsup:
let there be light........an ongoing process.........a repeated happening
be perfect........His word will not return void. I don't think Jesus was asking anyone to be perfect, I think He was issuing a command to all creation that will not return void, it will accomplish what it is sent out to do.
Quote from: claypot on August 31, 2017, 03:11:26 AM
do you see us as works completed yet in process?
I see our position as completed; yet our growth is a continual, on-going, process- just like from childhood to adulthood is a process, and then as an adult we still learn something new every day.
If that was not a continual process we would be doing the same thing forever- doing that in the flesh we get bored witless, the spirit is greater, and we will be doing new things and creating more forever- a much better state of being- under the supreme guidance of our loving Father.
One possibility is that since He will abolish "all rule power and authority" on the way to God becoming "all in all"- there will be no consideration of anything other than love and grace, each one having been given a portion from which to share with and contribute to the whole, in a celebration of infinite beauty and harmony and creativity in which every being, a child of God in love fufilled, all gathered around the Lamp, intermingled drops of living water, through which the rainbow is manifest(7 colors, 7 spirits of God) in infinite variety and joy.
"I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word; 21that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.
22"The glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be one, just as We are one; 23I in them and You in Me, that they may be perfected in unity, so that the world may know that You sent Me, and loved them, even as You have loved Me. 24"Father, I desire that they also, whom You have given Me, be with Me where I am, so that they may see My glory which You have given Me, for You loved Me before the foundation of the world.
25"O righteous Father, although the world has not known You, yet I have known You; and these have known that You sent Me; 26and I have made Your name known to them, and will make it known, so that the love with which You loved Me may be in them, and I in them." John 17
In all wisdom and insight 9He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him 10with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth. In Him 11also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will, 12to the end that we who were the first to hope in Christ would be to the praise of His glory. 13In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God's own possession, to the praise of His glory. Eph 1
..especiallyEW's preceding post...........that's it!...Amen.
Yes! AMEN!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup: :HeartThrob: :dsunny:
A beautiful vision...........Amen.
D.
gotta admit it's a tough road riden around in these here glorious bags of dirt!!!
God has quite the imagination to think up such as you and I.
Look what's hidden in these little earths, us. How much more is hidden everywhere else?
:dsunny: :HeartThrob:
The revealing of Christ is to be made known by the Holy Sprint witness in His WORD as the True witness and the glory of God revealed :HeartThrob:
hi rosered, i really don't have a clue what you mean in your last statement.
like i said before, i really am a practical man and i strive to put forth the Word of God in as practical and simplified form as possible for the saving of some who don't speak christianese,
i do believe all are saved and all are being saved and all will be saved.
i see it like this. there is really 2 parts to our one salvation. God saved us through Jesus Christ, period. Many of us don't realize this salvation so it does us no good, does it? there are those of us who, thanks to God, see it and rejoice in it! full salvation.
all will realize it eventually.
it will be nice to shed this mortal coil and return to our previous home!
Quotehi rosered, i really don't have a clue what you mean in your last statement.
I was just referring to your statment Claypot
Quotegotta admit it's a tough road riden around in these here glorious bags of dirt!!!
Its what is in side that counts ,,, the Christ in you the hope of Glory , just used my own thoughts though . . should used those 2 commas , my bad :flowerred:
QuoteThe revealing of Christ is to be made known , by the Holy Sprint witness in His WORD ,, as the True witness and the glory of God revealed :HeartThrob:
no worries bro :HeartThrob:
thanks for the explanation R.
well back to the reason for this thread....i am finding preston eby's writings interesting. he puts spiritual emphasis in many areas of scripture.
concordant publishing concern has always been refreshing for me too.
the balance is returning for me. i was really getting far too involved in the physical. the assembly of god church i attend is great but i feel very physical vibes there like praying for physical healing and for all kinds of temporal issues. i'm not saying these things are wrong to pray for, just when it gets too unbalanced i feel a connection to God is slipping.
how do you deal with the parts of scripture where we are told to pray for the sick and they will recover..............yet most don't. even my church brothers get frustrated with this.
I know! Right? How I wish when I pray for someone sick they would be healed!
Why is it? I wonder why not.. :Chinscratch: at least it's not just me.. though that's a rather selfish way for me to be looking at it..!
I do often wonder why.. I often think it will improve sometime in the future (before Jesus'teturn?)
Quote from: claypot on September 02, 2017, 03:27:01 AM
gotta admit it's a tough road riden around in these here glorious bags of dirt!!!
God has quite the imagination to think up such as you and I.
Look what's hidden in these little earths, us. How much more is hidden everywhere else?
It quite boggles the mind! Or it does mine, when I think of all the diversity of life! Oh the creativity.. I'm in awe of our chickens we have running around.. and dogs and cats.. just think of all the creatures of which I haven't a clue! Some swim, some fly.. Amazing.. How awesome it will be when "the lion will eat straw like the ox and the bear will graze with the cow.." There's many fascinating plants on the planet too!
I used to have a question 'why is the universe so VERY big?' (wouldn't this lesson of what's good and what's evil play out better in a small universe? :dontknow:
But finally I realized, it's because HE's so BIG!! It all being (surely?) made of Him, and being a reflection of Him (?) All He has made, and all He is building, the design, the blueprint.. All so incredible! And we know so little of it!!
And best of all is "Christ in us.. the hope (expectation, confidence) of glory (great worth)..
Hi CP , and Marie , Good Morning :dsunny:
I know you ask an excellent question about healing and we all have wondered that ! , I do believe .
I recall being in a Pizza hut and waiting on a pizza and started talking to this man about the Lord .
This was many years ago , I was new in the faith of the salvation of all .
He was telling me how much his own wife's faith was wavering because of all evil in the world and where was God in all of it ...
Being ''new '' I had no real answer for him and it made me wonder as well . I just continued to pray for them , though I never saw them again in the physical realm .
I just remember telling him , What I believed at the time , I told Him , God is perfect in all His ways , His work is a perfect work and will not fail .
I really believed it but did not know how any more than anyone else , I could not explain this faith in God ..
I know now it is , given over to satan for the destruction of our flesh that we be saved in the Day of the Lord .
and not to put so much confidence in our flesh and others flesh and strength , because those days are numbered ...
And Jesus said it Himself that , His Kingdom is NOT of this world . I hope he and his wife also know this now too.
God has given the increase of TRUTH & grace and the gifts of the Holy SPIRIT to grow in .
I do believe that is the healing Jesus was speaking of , because it also speaks spiritually of being sin sick in James as well as Peter being every bit whole except for his feet and to wash one another's feet ,
As the feet to me ,pertain to being taught of the Lord Himself and sitting at His feet by the washing of the water of the word , being comforted by His presence Spiritually speaking , being connected though Christ and in His protection .
Also to make our consciences clean and able to declare the good news of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ to anyone whom asks without fear or torment .
But declare Gods love to all :HeartThrob:
I do believe the carnal man and his thoughts [death] are an enemy against the Sprint of Life and why Jesus when healed so many said, Tell no man , because they were in the dark about the Light and could not comprehend it and would hinder the work of God .
I have seen physical healing done as well as spiritual healing , that no one could boast , except in the Lord about it ..
I do believe it is of Gods choosing to release or retain anyone in this life of their mortal existence , knowing now even these days of our flesh were shortened by Gods grace to all the evil , everyone is exposed too on a constant basis in this world ...
To be 100% in the Spirit is our goal brother ,,, I love the times of refreshing and being in the Spirit and look forward to more of Him and less and less of the pain and suffering of the days of our flesh knowing they are making perfect though suffering in anyone's spiritual life .
We are witnesses to Gods glory , as well as so many gone though them already ... :icon_flower:
Quote from: rosered on September 04, 2017, 05:10:38 PM
And Jesus said it Himself that , His Kingdom is NOT of this world .
:thumbsup: ergo- your kingdom
come on earth, as it is in heaven.
Jesus seated at the right hand of God until the next phase is brought around. [And the ecclesia right next to Him.]
Quote from: rosered on September 04, 2017, 05:10:38 PM
I do believe it is of Gods choosing to release or retain anyone in this life of their mortal existence , knowing now even these days of our flesh were shortened by Gods grace to all the evil , everyone is exposed too on a constant basis in this world ...
Quote from: rosered on September 04, 2017, 05:10:38 PM
God has given the increase of TRUTH & grace and the gifts of the Holy SPIRIT to grow in .
All in Christ.
Yes Ross I agree In Christ and know His Kingdom is a spiritual one .. , but I was referring to this passage of scripture bro in John 18
36Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world; if it were, My servants would fight to prevent My arrest by the Jews.
But now, My kingdom is not of this realm." I do see this as a Spiritual one
37"Then You are a king?" Pilate said. "You say that I am a king," Jesus answered
. "For this reason I was born and have come into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone who belongs to the truth listens to My voice."...
Quote from: rosered on September 05, 2017, 06:10:38 AM
But now, My kingdom is not of this realm."[/b] I do see this as a Spiritual one
Pretty much what I attempted to allude to; after all the spiritual was around way before the physical.
Thank goodness His kingdom is not of man's world.. not of mammon.. or yes His followers would take up swords- this happened, or SEEMED to happen when the faith became used for politics, or man's world..
So sad that the creation itself was subjected to futility, when man (male n female) who were given dominion of land and sea, by their disobedience became futile..
But what Father and Son created was all good - "behold it was all good" and glorious!! Even in its now imperfection, it is still miraculous and full of wonder and unbelievable diversity of life - I mean I'm in awe of my humble creatures, our chickens :laughing7: They are so cute and also interesting to watch (an African creature originally, did you know that? I didn't.. they've made my flower beds look a bit like a jungle when they are in them making pathways..)
Then when i watch discovery world or something whether about earth creatures ( some which swim, some which fly, etc) and some of the totally interesting details about them, I am very awed.. so much beauty! And the Earth itself with trees, mountains, streams.. all glorious.. a reflection surely, of HIS beauty.. Then to think of the hand.. the eye. The smile.. A baby's face.. kittens, puppies.. and we see such a TINY portion of it all! Then how immensely HUGE - not yelling :laughing7: but on this tiny phone screen, so much easier to capitalize than italic or underline..
Just imagine!! When heaven (the 3rd heaven? Above the 1st/atmosphere and the 2nd the universe) comes to the Earth!
It will be more beautiful and glorious than it was at creation, for all will be fully convinced of good from evil (life from mom-life? WhAt? Non-life!)
But thank goodness the Kingdom is not of man's world or the not in union nature of man (commonly translated 'the flesh' and it need not rest upon the arm of the flesh.. not upon man, especially not upon man in our imperfect condition.. which thank God for His deliverance of us from imperfect nature and from an imperfect body, to one day have one which will reflect heavenly perfection.
Not of this world. No reason for swords.. Many that are first will be last.. Not competition, etc, self glory.. but Love will rule. :HeartThrob:
Quote from: Ross on September 05, 2017, 06:14:54 AM
Quote from: rosered on September 05, 2017, 06:10:38 AM
But now, My kingdom is not of this realm."[/b] I do see this as a Spiritual one
Pretty much what I attempted to allude to; after all the spiritual was around way before the physical.
:thumbsup: AMEN!! :dsunny: :HeartThrob:
QuoteJesus seated at the right hand of God until the next phase is brought around. [And the ecclesia right next to Him.]
:HeartThrob: Most definitely bro!!! I do see
HiM fulfilling all things By His Word & Spirit of truth .... :icon_flower:
Most definitely sister Marie .........
God shall remove all the evil and replace it with good and complete /perfect /innocent beings by His /Sword /word and Spirit of truth /Life .
LOVE / charity overcomes/ covers a multitude of sin . Let there be Light :dsunny:
This is why we Trust in God totally .. :HeartThrob:
fantastic and heartfelt words rose and marie!!!!
i am asking God right now how to get from here to there if you get my drift. one response i keep getting is, whatever you feed will grow and of course, whatever you starve will die out.
one challenge i have is many on this site have such huge steak dinners they are handing out when i fear i can only handle baby food! not anyone's fault. just takes a lot of looking and asking till we all find that porridge that is just right. i thank God there is a lot of food for me on this site.