Hi :icon_flower:
This scripture is very interesting to me
I have thought that the WORD OF GOD is compared to Water of the Word and we are compared to sheep and was wondering if anyone can see that when a messenger sent to stir the Word /WATER some were healed
it is sort of like this Fourm a pool / place where many are gathered from time to time and In Gods mercy allows healing ,
I want to be whole /complete by the Lord
Do have anything , you see in this ? thoughts / Ideas about this ?
Jhn 5:2 Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep [market] a pool, which is called in the Hebrew tongue Bethesda,
having five porches.
In these lay a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving/ agitation of the water.
Bethesda = "house of mercy" or "flowing water"
Jhn 5:4 For an angel/messenger went down into the pool, at a certain season into the pool and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had.
International Standard Version (©2008)
At certain times an angel of the Lord would go down into the pool and stir up the water, and whoever stepped in first after the stirring of the water was healed of whatever disease he had.
TROUBLED
Strong's G5015 - tarassō
ταράσσω
tarassō
verb
Outline of Biblical Usage
1) to agitate, trouble (a thing, by the movement of its parts to and fro)
a) to cause one inward commotion, take away his calmness of mind, disturb his equanimity
b) to disquiet, make restless
c) to stir up
d) to trouble
1) to strike one's spirit with fear and dread
e) to render anxious or distressed
f) to perplex the mind of one by suggesting scruples or doubts[/color]
Quote from: rosered on December 11, 2008, 03:15:38 PM
Hi :icon_flower:
This scripture is very interesting to me
I have thought that the WORD OF GOD is compared to Water of the Word and we are compared to sheep and was wondering if anyone can see that when a messenger sent to stir the Word /WATER some were healed
it is sort of like this Fourm a pool / place where many are gathered from time to time and In Gods mercy allows healing ,
I want to be whole /complete by the Lord
Do have anything , you see in this ? thoughts / Ideas about this ?
Jhn 5:2 Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep [market] a pool, which is called in the Hebrew tongue Bethesda,
having five porches.
In these lay a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving/ agitation of the water.
Bethesda = "house of mercy" or "flowing water"
Jhn 5:4 For an angel/messenger went down into the pool, at a certain season into the pool and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had.
International Standard Version (©2008)
At certain times an angel of the Lord would go down into the pool and stir up the water, and whoever stepped in first after the stirring of the water was healed of whatever disease he had.
TROUBLED
Strong's G5015 - tarassō
ταράσσω
tarassō
verb
Outline of Biblical Usage
1) to agitate, trouble (a thing, by the movement of its parts to and fro)
a) to cause one inward commotion, take away his calmness of mind, disturb his equanimity
b) to disquiet, make restless
c) to stir up
d) to trouble
1) to strike one's spirit with fear and dread
e) to render anxious or distressed
f) to perplex the mind of one by suggesting scruples or doubts[/color]
Hi sis
For mine ,cant see much more than What ya said..only to note ,the Man Of 38 and its Number links for Mine. to one Who Is Bound... :icon_flower:
Waters( The River of Running Water which Flows From the Belly), Five( Grace), a Pool, Like a Lake,..Cleansing ..., purification of the Mind, Heart ,and Tongue
Which pretty Much approves what Your saying... :icon_flower:
:icon_flower:
Thanks Taff , I was just wondering about the messenger / angel sent at a certain time /season ?
seems there are so many that come and go here at TM , for a time
you seeing the man bound/paralyzed 38 years by FEAR ?
No one to help him in the waters/ Word ?
Thanks bro :icon_flower:
Quote from: rosered on December 14, 2008, 02:16:34 AM
Thanks Taff , I was just wondering about the messenger / angel sent at a certain time /season ?
seems there are so many that come and go here at TM , for a time
you seeing the man bound/paralyzed 38 years by FEAR ?
No one to help him in the waters/ Word ?
Thanks bro :icon_flower:
sis
Not looked to hard Into the Messanger \angel..thats Interesting...Of course Paul comes Stright to Mind, but Christ Is the Ultimate..BUT then Of Course theres John The B :bigGrin:
The Flesh Is what Prevents, sorta Ties with the Need For Grace,Knowing His Affliction, and Need For mercy...
Now Ya Got me Digging :icon_flower:
FEAR,...Yup.....
sometimes Y say So little..and then Theres This HUGE chasm... :laughing7:
Hbr 2:15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
1Jo 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love
Fill In the Gaps Sis..Like ya Normally do :icon_flower:
1Then Eliashib the high priest rose up with his brethren the priests, and they builded the sheep gate; they sanctified it, and set up the doors of it; even unto the tower of Meah they sanctified it, unto the tower of Hananeel.
--Neh 3
"Eliashib" [the high priest]
H475
אלישׁיב
'elyâshîyb
el-yaw-sheeb'
From H410 and H7725; God will restore; Eljashib, the name of six Israelites: - Eliashib.
[unto the tower of] "Meah"
H3967
מאיה מאה
mê'âh mê'yâh
may-aw', may-yaw'
Probably a primitive numeral; a hundred; also as a multiplicative and a fraction: - hundred ([-fold], -th), + sixscore.
[unto the tower of] "Hananeel"
H2606
חננאל
chănan'êl
khan-an-ale'
From H2603 and H410; God has favored; Chananel, probably an Israelite, from whom a tower of Jerusalem was named: - Hananeel.
Mat 13:8
8But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
Quote from: Molly on December 14, 2008, 02:58:00 AM
1Then Eliashib the high priest rose up with his brethren the priests, and they builded the sheep gate; they sanctified it, and set up the doors of it; even unto the tower of Meah they sanctified it, unto the tower of Hananeel.
--Neh 3
"Eliashib" [the high priest]
H475
אלישׁיב
'elyâshîyb
el-yaw-sheeb'
From H410 and H7725; God will restore; Eljashib, the name of six Israelites: - Eliashib.
[unto the tower of] "Meah"
H3967
מאיה מאה
mê'âh mê'yâh
may-aw', may-yaw'
Probably a primitive numeral; a hundred; also as a multiplicative and a fraction: - hundred ([-fold], -th), + sixscore.
[unto the tower of] "Hananeel"
H2606
חננאל
chănan'êl
khan-an-ale'
From H2603 and H410; God has favored; Chananel, probably an Israelite, from whom a tower of Jerusalem was named: - Hananeel.
Mat 13:8
8But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
Way To Go Molly :icon_flower:
any Time ya Want to Call me Taffy Is Fine...,Or Graham..leave it to you agh? :icon_flower:
Hi Sis,
lol,its so goooooooood to hear your voice, ya been to still for too looooooooooooooong :happygrin:, ya been missed.
Rosey keeps me upto speed when you two get ta chatting, :icon_flower:
Its normally me who goes walkbouts, guess ya been having some travels yourself girl
Hows that Back and arthritus ?,,still given you problems sitting and Typing?
Anyways Ill drop you a Pm ,dont want to get told off for hyjacking Roseys Thread :HeartThrob:
:icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower:
Quote from: rosered on December 11, 2008, 03:15:38 PM
Hi :icon_flower:
This scripture is very interesting to me
I have thought that the WORD OF GOD is compared to Water of the Word and we are compared to sheep and was wondering if anyone can see that when a messenger sent to stir the Word /WATER some were healed
it is sort of like this Fourm a pool / place where many are gathered from time to time and In Gods mercy allows healing ,
I want to be whole /complete by the Lord
Do have anything , you see in this ? thoughts / Ideas about this ?
Jhn 5:2 Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep [market] a pool, which is called in the Hebrew tongue Bethesda,
having five porches.
In these lay a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving/ agitation of the water.
Bethesda = "house of mercy" or "flowing water"
Jhn 5:4 For an angel/messenger went down into the pool, at a certain season into the pool and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had.
International Standard Version (©2008)
At certain times an angel of the Lord would go down into the pool and stir up the water, and whoever stepped in first after the stirring of the water was healed of whatever disease he had.
TROUBLED
Strong's G5015 - tarassō
ταράσσω
tarassō
verb
Outline of Biblical Usage
1) to agitate, trouble (a thing, by the movement of its parts to and fro)
a) to cause one inward commotion, take away his calmness of mind, disturb his equanimity
b) to disquiet, make restless
c) to stir up
d) to trouble
1) to strike one's spirit with fear and dread
e) to render anxious or distressed
f) to perplex the mind of one by suggesting scruples or doubts[/color]
Fireinfolding . . .I like your handle there!
For Rosies observation . . . I thought I'd throw a couple pieces in the mix as well. For me, the angel is not a winged being as much as it is a messenger . .and as God's ways never change, it's never the messenger that is to get the attention, but the message they bring. So again, it's the message that stirs the waters and get's the spirit moving, healing begins to flow . . .the purpose of sharing the message is to heal the nations.
The healing comes to those who hunger the most. There are always those that set along the banks of the river preaching about it's depth, current speed, power, clarity . . on and on, yet they never actually get in the river themselves. So many times people become cautions when the pool is stirred . . only those that rush in without hesitancy are the ones experiencing the healing. As the story unfolds . ..there were many accumulated around the edges and like the one Jesus picked out, they are there, but not to be healed, just to complain about never being healed.
Life comes to only those who have a hunger for life.
The sheep gate is the north gate of the city. The sheep are brought to the sheep market for temple sacrifice. The waters are to cleanse the sheep in preparation.
14Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
--John 5
The north gate of the Temple is one of the entrances of the priests who will serve at the altar..
13 Then the man said to me, "The northern and southern chambers that face the temple yard are the holy chambers where the priests who approach the LORD will eat the most holy offerings. There they will deposit the most holy offerings—the grain offerings, sin offerings, and restitution offerings—for the place is holy. 14 Once the priests have entered, they must not go out from the holy area to the outer court until they have removed the clothes they minister in, for these are holy. They are to put on other clothes before they approach the public area."
--Eze 42
But the LORD's gate is the east gate. This is the gate Jesus faced on the cross. It is also the gate he used to enter Jerusalem the week before his death.
1 He led me to the gate, the one that faces east, 2 and I saw the glory of the God of Israel coming from the east. His voice sounded like the roar of mighty waters, and the earth shone with His glory. 3 The vision I saw was like the one I had seen when He came to destroy the city, and like the ones I had seen by the Chebar Canal. I fell facedown. 4 The glory of the LORD entered the temple by way of the gate that faced east. 5 Then the Spirit lifted me up and brought me to the inner court, and the glory of the LORD filled the temple.
--Eze 42
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 20, 2008, 06:36:57 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 20, 2008, 05:59:38 PM
Quote from: rosered on December 11, 2008, 03:15:38 PM
Hi :icon_flower:
This scripture is very interesting to me
I have thought that the WORD OF GOD is compared to Water of the Word and we are compared to sheep and was wondering if anyone can see that when a messenger sent to stir the Word /WATER some were healed
it is sort of like this Fourm a pool / place where many are gathered from time to time and In Gods mercy allows healing ,
I want to be whole /complete by the Lord
Do have anything , you see in this ? thoughts / Ideas about this ?
Jhn 5:2 Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep [market] a pool, which is called in the Hebrew tongue Bethesda,
having five porches.
In these lay a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving/ agitation of the water.
Bethesda = "house of mercy" or "flowing water"
Jhn 5:4 For an angel/messenger went down into the pool, at a certain season into the pool and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had.
International Standard Version (©2008)
At certain times an angel of the Lord would go down into the pool and stir up the water, and whoever stepped in first after the stirring of the water was healed of whatever disease he had.
TROUBLED
Strong's G5015 - tarassō
ταράσσω
tarassō
verb
Outline of Biblical Usage
1) to agitate, trouble (a thing, by the movement of its parts to and fro)
a) to cause one inward commotion, take away his calmness of mind, disturb his equanimity
b) to disquiet, make restless
c) to stir up
d) to trouble
1) to strike one's spirit with fear and dread
e) to render anxious or distressed
f) to perplex the mind of one by suggesting scruples or doubts[/color]
Fireinfolding . . .I like your handle there!
For Rosies observation . . . I thought I'd throw a couple pieces in the mix as well. For me, the angel is not a winged being as much as it is a messenger . .and as God's ways never change, it's never the messenger that is to get the attention, but the message they bring. So again, it's the message that stirs the waters and get's the spirit moving, healing begins to flow . . .the purpose of sharing the message is to heal the nations.
The healing comes to those who hunger the most. There are always those that set along the banks of the river preaching about it's depth, current speed, power, clarity . . on and on, yet they never actually get in the river themselves. So many times people become cautions when the pool is stirred . . only those that rush in without hesitancy are the ones experiencing the healing. As the story unfolds . ..there were many accumulated around the edges and like the one Jesus picked out, they are there, but not to be healed, just to complain about never being healed.
Life comes to only those who have a hunger for life.
Hey Nathan :bigGrin: How are you bro? Did ya know you were not quoting "me" up there? :grin: Im not even sure I even have a handle on it but the "aggitation of" the waters sure sounded inviting :bigGrin:
I do have to put my feet back into the water myself, glad its a pool and not a puddle :grin:
Hugs in Him
Kim
Ha! whatdya know about that! It's a good thing I'm getting all my mistakes out now at the end of the year so next year I can start out fresh.
Well, then it's you that I owe the thanks to for your observations . . I loved it!
I used to be one that was satisfied with letting the river take me where it may . .as I envisioned it to be the holy spirit bringing life to the banks of my earth . . .which still can be seen that way but recently my spirit has been sort of revealing the bigger picture of just what is happen in our snapshot of God's timetable we live in. And I sense he's calling the bride "back" to her origin . . .before the fall was introduced to our natures. Before flesh dominated spirit. And that leads us "back" to the garden to where the river originates. One river and it's unnamed . . not to be categorized by man, it's the spirit of I AM . . .and this one river is one and the same with the river in Revelation flowing from the throne with the tree of life on either side . . .which is the two witnesses . .which are the two anointed ones of Zechariah 4 . .heck, while I'm already wet, I'll even throw out the fact that I think they are the Word and the Spirit . .but that's just me.
At any rate, this has changed my position in my river as I sense that this river that was one, but split into four at the gate of the garden, is not just here to water my earth, but it's my avenue that gives me access to swim up-stream back to the source where the sovereign river flows . . .so the river is the same, but my quest in it has changed.
1 The man then brought me back toward the sanctuary's outer gate that faced east, and it was closed. 2 The LORD said to me: "This gate will remain closed. It will not be opened, and no one will enter through it, because the LORD, the God of Israel, has entered through it. Therefore it will remain closed. 3 The prince himself will sit in the gateway to eat a meal before the LORD. He must enter by way of the portico of the gate and go out the same way."
4 Then the man brought me by way of the north gate to the front of the temple. I looked, and the glory of the LORD filled His temple. And I fell facedown. 5 The LORD said to me: "Son of man, pay attention; look with your eyes and listen with your ears to everything I tell you about all the statutes and laws of the LORD's temple. Take careful note of the entrance of the temple along with all the exits of the sanctuary.
--Eze 44
24So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
--Gen 3
I am the way...No one comes to the Father except through me.
[Jn 14:6]
3 The prince himself will sit in the gateway to eat a meal before the LORD. He must enter by way of the portico [porch] of the gate and go out the same way."
--Eze 44
8And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat.
9And they said unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare?
10And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.
11And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?
12And he shall shew you a large upper room furnished: there make ready.
13And they went, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.
--Luke 22
"upper room"
G508
ἀνώγεον
anōgēon
an-ogue'-eh-on
From G507 and G1093; above the ground, that is, (properly) the second floor of a building; used for a dome or a balcony on the upper story: - upper room.
G507
ἄνω
anō
an'-o
Adverb from G473; upward or on the top: - above, brim, high, up.
G1093
γῆ
gē
ghay
Contracted from a primary word; soil; by extension a region, or the solid part or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application): - country, earth (-ly), ground, land, world.
QuoteIt's sure gooooooooooooooooooood hearing your voice too even as I browsed around last night lol I felt I was walking down memory lane here. Trust me you have been missed very much too
lol "Walkabouts" good name for them, dont 6 months seem like 10 years? Yep its my turn for a walkabout, cant say Im too crazy about being on one but I am actually glad I went on one to be informed on what might be heading our way here that we could make some preparations for the harder times ahead. Felt a bit like Noah moving with a bit of fear toward the coming situation and to prepare as I felt led to.
Good news, I am actually getting better at typing on my elbows lol but man... sometimes it feels like my elbows are on fire and my shoulders are going to fall off my upper half. I have developed calouses that help lol I still cant sit yet and Im supposing I wont anytime soon. The temptation at boards is to "join in" the discussions and I just couldnt besides I didnt have much to contribute at the time, still dont really but I absolutely miss our fellowship, I miss "tea" all day on the IM searching out the treasures of God together and the rejoicing that always followed (especially the "awe" we felt) as God graced us with His blessing, nothing better then that bro! But good things have come out to me even of God's faithfulness through this much needed time and its all kool here
How you feeling bro? I know you persevere through more then anything I have ever had to go through and I cant possibly say I covet your situation but I can say I covet your Spirit and attitude you have facing it all. I do hope you are feeling well soon because theres nothing worse then a slow recovery accompanied by many set backs every time. God richly bless you and yours
I still cant get used to the screen name "Taffy" lol What was going through your mind with that one?
Hyjacking??? Rosey wont mind a hyjack I quoted Rose, whats this? No veering at all off topics or at least weaseling your way off of topics into fellowship?
You guys are getting strict around here arent cha? :grin:Alrighty I'll catch cha on PM, just thought I could come in and say hi without starting a thread
Big Hugs bro
In Him
Kim
Gee, I come back and see your posting everywheres..yehaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :HeartThrob: not bad for a Cripple :icon_king:
Ive just read your pm too so ill respond in there sis :icon_flower:
but that about Taffy , as we are Talking Rivers, Being born in the Capital of Wales, Cardiff, Flows the River TAFF, Therefore Taff or Taffy is a Nickname commonly given to Welsh folk.
sorta like Yanks, Canooks, Red necks etc...
:icon_flower:
You can call me what ya Wish :HeartThrob:
1-6Soon another Feast came around and Jesus was back in Jerusalem.
Near the Sheep Gate in Jerusalem there was a pool, in Hebrew called Bethesda, with five alcoves. Hundreds of sick people—blind, crippled, paralyzed—were in these alcoves. One man had been an invalid there for thirty-eight years. When Jesus saw him stretched out by the pool and knew how long he had been there, he said, "Do you want to get well?"
7The sick man said, "Sir, when the water is stirred, I don't have anybody to put me in the pool. By the time I get there, somebody else is already in."
8-9Jesus said, "Get up, take your bedroll, start walking." The man was healed on the spot. He picked up his bedroll and walked off.
9-10That day happened to be the Sabbath. The Jews stopped the healed man and said, "It's the Sabbath. You can't carry your bedroll around. It's against the rules."
11But he told them, "The man who made me well told me to. He said, 'Take your bedroll and start walking.'"
12-13They asked, "Who gave you the order to take it up and start walking?" But the healed man didn't know, for Jesus had slipped away into the crowd.
14A little later Jesus found him in the Temple and said, "You look wonderful! You're well! Don't return to a sinning life or something worse might happen."
15-16The man went back and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well. That is why the Jews were out to get Jesus—because he did this kind of thing on the Sabbath.
17But Jesus defended himself. "My Father is working straight through, even on the Sabbath. So am I."
18That really set them off. The Jews were now not only out to expose him; they were out to kill him. Not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was calling God his own Father, putting himself on a level with God.
--John 5
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 20, 2008, 09:40:54 PM
It just reminds me of "Daffy" :grin:
I cant get past it Graham :grin: Its like it dont suit cha... Yeah I did three posts in bed and one from the other puter, but Im bored just dont expect lots of copy paste verses like I used to do and 4 feet long posts :grin: thats an impossibility right now but I bet your relieved :grin:
Just have to limit my responses but I wouldnt do it, it became a drag to respond because I couldnt post all I wanted to so I stopped completely, Im an all or nothing kind of gal :girlheart:
Hugs
Kimbo
well Gramster it is Then :icon_flower:
Yeah I know ya, takes ya Ages to get those posts like ya want em ,but either way , Its good to hear ya Voice like this :icon_flower:
Just dont go wearing yourself thin and dont get into those 72hr not stop stints you used too :happy3:
Rose will be glad to see hear you too
:icon_flower:
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 20, 2008, 08:59:43 PM
A question, what is the number 5 symbolic of in regards to the "porches"? That always bugs me :grin:
Fivefold ministry?
11And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;--Eph 4
These are all ministering angels, standing in the outer courtyard (porch) ministering to those who would receive [shall be heirs of] salvation.
I'm thinking "that" births from grace as well.
Ya on a Roll Molly Girl :icon_flower:
Yup I agree Nat, synonymous with Grace :icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower:
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 20, 2008, 10:06:36 PM
Quote from: Molly on December 20, 2008, 09:46:37 PM
1-6Soon another Feast came around and Jesus was back in Jerusalem.
Near the Sheep Gate in Jerusalem there was a pool, in Hebrew called Bethesda, with five alcoves. Hundreds of sick people—blind, crippled, paralyzed—were in these alcoves. One man had been an invalid there for thirty-eight years. When Jesus saw him stretched out by the pool and knew how long he had been there, he said, "Do you want to get well?"
7The sick man said, "Sir, when the water is stirred, I don't have anybody to put me in the pool. By the time I get there, somebody else is already in."
8-9Jesus said, "Get up, take your bedroll, start walking." The man was healed on the spot. He picked up his bedroll and walked off.
9-10That day happened to be the Sabbath. The Jews stopped the healed man and said, "It's the Sabbath. You can't carry your bedroll around. It's against the rules."
11But he told them, "The man who made me well told me to. He said, 'Take your bedroll and start walking.'"
12-13They asked, "Who gave you the order to take it up and start walking?" But the healed man didn't know, for Jesus had slipped away into the crowd.
14A little later Jesus found him in the Temple and said, "You look wonderful! You're well! Don't return to a sinning life or something worse might happen."
15-16The man went back and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well. That is why the Jews were out to get Jesus—because he did this kind of thing on the Sabbath.
17But Jesus defended himself. "My Father is working straight through, even on the Sabbath. So am I."
18That really set them off. The Jews were now not only out to expose him; they were out to kill him. Not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was calling God his own Father, putting himself on a level with God.
--John 5
I used to think the man was sinning by going into the temple because thats where Jesus adressed him about sinning, you'd think he'd walk about to him when he was with a prostitute (or something similiar) and say something like that.
That always sorta baffled me as to why the temple was the area he found him in and confronted him about sin, its like I still dont get or Im making it more complicated then what it really is (which is normally the case with me) :grin:
Is this a test? :laughing7:
43"When an evil spirit comes out of a man, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. 44Then it says, 'I will return to the house I left.' When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order.
45Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that man is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation."--Mat 12
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 20, 2008, 10:16:27 PM
Hey I looked up "porches" in the OT and the porches were erected EAST of the Temple of Solomon, whats kool too is that the height of it was said to be "One hundred and twenty cubits" ...I love anything with that number in it :grin: Thats mentioned under the definition in the Lexicon. Interestingly mans days were numbered that many and Moses died that number and its the height of that which is opposite the temple back there... what could it all mean? :grin:
I love connect the dots lol
22And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter.
23And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch.
24
Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt?
If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. 25Jesus answered them,
I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
26But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
--John 10
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 20, 2008, 10:16:27 PM
Hey I looked up "porches" in the OT and the porches were erected EAST of the Temple of Solomon, whats kool too is that the height of it was said to be "One hundred and twenty cubits" ...I love anything with that number in it :grin: Thats mentioned under the definition in the Lexicon. Interestingly mans days were numbered that many and Moses died that number and its the height of that which is opposite the temple back there... what could it all mean? :grin:
I love connect the dots lol
lol, Maybe I should call ya Dotty :laughing7:
yop Moses ,The end of the LAW and the Bondage of it
YA Notice the guy was 38 or 3 bearing witness to 8,. Complete and made whole ...in the the LAST DAY , New Beginnings, which again is One set free from Bondage, witnesses everywhere sis
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QuoteThink Christ didnt want him back in the temple because they were going to bring him back into bondage again? Given the inquisition that followed
Nice catch sis :thumbsup:
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They sure didnt want to give up Moses seat without a Fight egh...menstealers for sure
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 20, 2008, 10:27:37 PM
Quote from: Molly on December 20, 2008, 10:11:16 PM
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Quote from: Molly on December 20, 2008, 09:46:37 PM
1-6Soon another Feast came around and Jesus was back in Jerusalem.
Near the Sheep Gate in Jerusalem there was a pool, in Hebrew called Bethesda, with five alcoves. Hundreds of sick people—blind, crippled, paralyzed—were in these alcoves. One man had been an invalid there for thirty-eight years. When Jesus saw him stretched out by the pool and knew how long he had been there, he said, "Do you want to get well?"
7The sick man said, "Sir, when the water is stirred, I don't have anybody to put me in the pool. By the time I get there, somebody else is already in."
8-9Jesus said, "Get up, take your bedroll, start walking." The man was healed on the spot. He picked up his bedroll and walked off.
9-10That day happened to be the Sabbath. The Jews stopped the healed man and said, "It's the Sabbath. You can't carry your bedroll around. It's against the rules."
11But he told them, "The man who made me well told me to. He said, 'Take your bedroll and start walking.'"
12-13They asked, "Who gave you the order to take it up and start walking?" But the healed man didn't know, for Jesus had slipped away into the crowd.
14A little later Jesus found him in the Temple and said, "You look wonderful! You're well! Don't return to a sinning life or something worse might happen."
15-16The man went back and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well. That is why the Jews were out to get Jesus—because he did this kind of thing on the Sabbath.
17But Jesus defended himself. "My Father is working straight through, even on the Sabbath. So am I."
18That really set them off. The Jews were now not only out to expose him; they were out to kill him. Not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was calling God his own Father, putting himself on a level with God.
--John 5
I used to think the man was sinning by going into the temple because thats where Jesus adressed him about sinning, you'd think he'd walk about to him when he was with a prostitute (or something similiar) and say something like that.
That always sorta baffled me as to why the temple was the area he found him in and confronted him about sin, its like I still dont get or Im making it more complicated then what it really is (which is normally the case with me) :grin:
Is this a test? :laughing7:
43"When an evil spirit comes out of a man, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. 44Then it says, 'I will return to the house I left.' When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order.
45Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that man is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation."
--Mat 12
Hmmm this is interesting, afterall the mans condition wasnt good but speaks to the condition of a man being worse then the first, which is the "something worse coming upon you". Though I just think it odd he said that in the temple unless ofcourse its more a picture of something Im not laying hold of here.
Are you saying the temple is an arid place?? :grin:
I think he's talking about the real temple, of which the temple of Solomon is merely a likeness.
1 Kings 7:21
And he set up the pillars in the porch of the temple: and he set up the right pillar, and called the name thereof Jachin: and he set up the left pillar, and called the name thereof Boaz."Jachin"H3199
יכין
yâkîynyaw-keen'
From H3559;
he (or it) will establish; Jakin, the name of three Israelites and of a temple pillar: - Jachin.
"Boaz"H1162
בּעז
bô‛azbo'-az
From an unused root of uncertain meaning; Boaz, the ancestor of David; also
the name of a pillar in front of the temple: - Boaz.
Boaz is the kinsman redeemer of the Book of Ruth.
8Therefore the kinsman said unto Boaz, Buy it for thee. So he drew off his shoe.
9And Boaz said unto the elders, and unto all the people, Ye are witnesses this day, that I have bought all that was Elimelech's, and all that was Chilion's and Mahlon's, of the hand of Naomi.
10Moreover Ruth the Moabitess, the wife of Mahlon, have I purchased to be my wife, to raise up the name of the dead upon his inheritance, that the name of the dead be not cut off from among his brethren, and from the gate of his place: ye are witnesses this day.
11And all the people that were in the gate, and the elders, said, We are witnesses. The LORD make the woman that is come into thine house like Rachel and like Leah, which two did build the house of Israel: and do thou worthily in Ephratah, and be famous in Bethlehem:12And let thy house be like the house of Pharez, whom Tamar bare unto Judah, of the seed which the LORD shall give thee of this young woman. --Ruth 4
PS Look at who he's redeeming, Ruth, a Gentile--
4And they took them wives of the women of Moab; the name of the one was Orpah, and the name of the other Ruth: and they dwelled there about ten years. --Ruth 1
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 20, 2008, 10:16:27 PM
Hey I looked up "porches" in the OT and the porches were erected EAST of the Temple of Solomon, whats kool too is that the height of it was said to be "One hundred and twenty cubits" ...I love anything with that number in it :grin: Thats mentioned under the definition in the Lexicon. Interestingly mans days were numbered that many and Moses died that number and its the height of that which is opposite the temple back there... what could it all mean? :grin:
I love connect the dots lol
Man, you've REALLY got to stick around. What a delight it is to read your posts!
God wrestled with man for 120 years . . .did ya do the math and see that man's years multiplied by Jubillee also equals the day of the laboring man? (6000) and it was six days that God "labored" before the 7th day manifested? We are leaving the 6th day behind and entering into the 7th as we speak! The year 2000 is a turning point in more ways than one.
There were 120 in the upper room . . .it's as if God took the laboring man and transformed him into a drunken/spirit man.
This thing with the porch is intriguing also. . . The east gate speaks to me of the entrance to resurrection life . .east, being the rising of the Son. There is a reference to the "kings of the east" in Revelation that cross a dried up Euphrates (fruitfulness) river this is one of the four coming out of the garden . . . that is US
Hmmm this is interesting, afterall the mans condition wasnt good but speaks to the condition of a man being worse then the first, which is the "something worse coming upon you".His prayer and cry was over Israel who's house was swept clean "by Christ" but left empty because they rejected him. They were left 7 times worse . . .seven being fullness and completion . . .they left themselves in a vacuum that caused them to implode on themselves.
For me, that something worse . . .was the Roman army that came a generation later.
Pillars in the porch . . .now there's a sermon in itself! Christ "had" to set up his covenant, the New Covenant 'outside" the temple, even though the temple itself was the blueprint of him, the New Covenant, the porch, not just any porch, but Solomon's porch . .Solomon . .the "third" and last king of all of Israel . . .This is got resurrection all over it. East Gate, 3rd king . . . does it ever end????? :myahoo:
Great to see this thread come to LIFE, if only many more were like it .Thanks for sharing Guys.... :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob:
I dare say Come the Morrow it may have grew a Couple of Pages... :icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower:
Quote from: NathanThis thing with the porch is intriguing also. . . The east gate speaks to me of the entrance to resurrection life . .east, being the rising of the Son. There is a reference to the "kings of the east" in Revelation that cross a dried up Euphrates (fruitfulness) river this is one of the four coming out of the garden . . . that is US
Interesting..
Revelation 16:12
And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.Solomon's porch was called 'the king's entrance' or the 'king's gate.'
17And the porters were, Shallum, and Akkub, and Talmon, and Ahiman, and their brethren: Shallum was the chief;
18Who hitherto waited in the king's gate eastward: they were porters in the companies of the children of Levi.
19And Shallum the son of Kore, the son of Ebiasaph, the son of Korah, and his brethren, of the house of his father, the Korahites, were over the work of the service, keepers of the gates of the tabernacle: and their fathers, being over the host of the LORD, were keepers of the entry.--1 Chron 9
Quotedoes it ever end?????
No LOL. And, what's more, you couldn't make this stuff up it's so good.
1Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
2Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.
...and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.
10When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy.
11And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh. 12And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country
another way. --Mat 2
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 21, 2008, 12:19:19 AM
Hey think this is a symbol of those who search for him with their whole hearts would find him who is the bright and morning star? He said I will GIVE you the morning star and "I am the morning star" and the star moves from one place to another and BEHOLD a woman WITH CHILD :bgdance:
Christ IN YOU your hope of glory? They rejoiced when they SAW :bigGrin:
did I say a Few pages,mm, me thinks probably many More :icon_flower: :bgdance: :bgdance: :bgdance:
Yup ,as One Born Under law Unto the WOMAN,,,not the
Mother who is the
Mother of us ALL...Behold WOMAN your SON
A Child is Born, A Son Is Given.... :icon_flower:
Tis time for me beddies,...I keep saying that, but Im loving this food,... :icon_flower:
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates of the city.
--Rev 22
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 21, 2008, 12:26:46 AM
Quote from: Taffy on December 21, 2008, 12:04:25 AM
Great to see this thread come to LIFE, if only many more were like it .Thanks for sharing Guys.... :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob:
I dare say Come the Morrow it may have grew a Couple of Pages... :icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower:
Im just glad I'm coming alive :grin: I was dead and now Im alive (but I cant tell for how long) :grin: its about PEOPLE Hammy not threads :grin: Threads are alive as people come alive :grin:
Moderators, sheesh :gblum:
heh heh, I had to bust on you a little since your an AuthORiTI around here... and Yes I will try to stay on topic but feel free to use the delete button when I forget lol
Hugs
Yes sis,,very Much the Folk :icon_flower:
yous Funny, all Threads diversify, No ones moaning sis...let it run ..yehaaaaaaaaaaaa
It all relates as ya Know....and can ya really Brick In His voice?,,NAH.
OH and your sphelllllling is Now as good as Mine :laughing7:
I was going to bed an hour ago,...im kinda Tired today , but you guys are Breathing into me..yehaaaaaaaaaaa.
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Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 21, 2008, 12:49:00 AM
Quote from: Taffy on December 21, 2008, 12:31:28 AM
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 21, 2008, 12:19:19 AM
Hey think this is a symbol of those who search for him with their whole hearts would find him who is the bright and morning star? He said I will GIVE you the morning star and "I am the morning star" and the star moves from one place to another and BEHOLD a woman WITH CHILD :bgdance:
Christ IN YOU your hope of glory? They rejoiced when they SAW :bigGrin:
did I say a Few pages,mm, me thinks probably many More :icon_flower: :bgdance: :bgdance: :bgdance:
Yup ,as One Born Under law Unto the WOMAN,,,not the Mother who is the Mother of us ALL...Behold WOMAN your SON
A Child is Born, A Son Is Given.... :icon_flower:
Tis time for me beddies,...I keep saying that, but Im loving this food,... :icon_flower:
Yes exactly like pictures, in the OT the angel of the Lord goes BEFORE them and then "removes and goes BEHIND them" (ye shall hear a voice BEHIND YOU") and in the picture of the Star they FOLLOWED (which was BEFORE them) is indicating where the child will be born yet stands ABOVE the house and Christ is OVER Gods house :girlheart:
Thes pictures are facinating!
I pray you hang about some , really have missed you, GOSH, im Flying.... :icon_flower:
But these Broken Bods of ours have their limitations...but right now after all this time...I dont seem to be in the pain as I do Normally :icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower:
What MEDICINE :icon_flower:
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Nah no way Gramster you see I do that on PuRpoSE where you dont Mines still better then yours heh heh
hey..I dont sphelll to bad for a "Dyxlecsic", which i found out to be true some time back...
and for sure you sphpell beter englander tham I does,..but Grammer are Great :icon_flower:
Yeah Il be off shortly,(tis 11pm)..but kinda talking once again is Long over due...and want to cherish the Moment some... :icon_flower:
ya might disappear agin for a semi sabbatical :sigh:
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 21, 2008, 01:11:55 AM
Quote from: Taffy on December 21, 2008, 12:54:48 AM
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 21, 2008, 12:49:00 AM
Quote from: Taffy on December 21, 2008, 12:31:28 AM
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 21, 2008, 12:19:19 AM
Hey think this is a symbol of those who search for him with their whole hearts would find him who is the bright and morning star? He said I will GIVE you the morning star and "I am the morning star" and the star moves from one place to another and BEHOLD a woman WITH CHILD :bgdance:
Christ IN YOU your hope of glory? They rejoiced when they SAW :bigGrin:
did I say a Few pages,mm, me thinks probably many More :icon_flower: :bgdance: :bgdance: :bgdance:
Yup ,as One Born Under law Unto the WOMAN,,,not the Mother who is the Mother of us ALL...Behold WOMAN your SON
A Child is Born, A Son Is Given.... :icon_flower:
Tis time for me beddies,...I keep saying that, but Im loving this food,... :icon_flower:
Yes exactly like pictures, in the OT the angel of the Lord goes BEFORE them and then "removes and goes BEHIND them" (ye shall hear a voice BEHIND YOU") and in the picture of the Star they FOLLOWED (which was BEFORE them) is indicating where the child will be born yet stands ABOVE the house and Christ is OVER Gods house :girlheart:
Thes pictures are facinating!
I pray you hang about some , really have missed you, GOSH, im Flying.... :icon_flower:
But these Broken Bods of ours have their limitations...but right now after all this time...I dont seem to be in the pain as I do Normally :icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower:
What MEDICINE :icon_flower:
Wow again, Im feeling the LOVE here :grin: Hey me too bro! God has been gracious I was telling Rosie I had a talk with Him yesterday and I told her He showed up, now i know yall will say He never left but He was hiding from me and I knew the moment He come out of hiding and I told her so and so I figured to come back and peek in but i hadnt the hunger for spiritual things for quite awhile and I hadnt a reason as to why, Im not sure if I worded that correctly but you get my drift, it was just dry and blah and when I saw this post about the agitating of the waters it made me chuckle so Im so glad to rejoice with you again, a merry heart is great medicine isnt it? Boy I needed some fellowship 6 months with none and I didnt realize how much I missed it till I come, thanks bro... broken bodies, I hear ya and I;m not as broken in body as you but how limiting they are huh? So good to see you again, and the new faces here along with the older ones too.
Where the heck is Nosie Rosie? :grin:
Bunches of Hugs for you! :HeartThrob:
Love in Him
Kim
I hear ya sis , Ive had my vacations too....and wondered if Id ever return ...Tis true, Im the master of disappearing :laughing7:
Well Mes Hoping that 6mths maybe Past :HeartThrob: and youll hang some here with folk,im sure some will be blessed by what you have to share :icon_flower:
seems ya Made a Quick friend in NAT,... :laughing7:
Hes quite a Clown, Kinda Thinks hes a Chick magnet ,but by wearing Glasses would damage those good looks , put those babes off some.... but Some Kind soul felt sorry for him and took him off the Market...and the BABES SUNG with a Voice of Happiness..... :laughing7:
Yeah where is that girl ..shell be shocked for sure when she eventually logs In... :icon_flower:
Hey Kim, where are ya from anyway? You've obviously got a history here . . . I can't believe you've been gone as you have. You see the same things, you ask the same kind of questions . .it's so cool to meet people who enter into the same rooms that have not been taught by a denomination, but have been having Truth revealed through the spirit and it's the same pictures seen by others.
I do beleive you are also one of the pioneers that God has not only called, but also chosen for you to illuminate to the deadwood around you so God can breathe this life in others as well. I'm in Iowa . . .it's 10 after 5 for me . . .I work many hours here at Quaker . . .makin' the oatmeal! It's where I also spend all my free time at Tent.
You mentioned "a voice behind me" I was curious as to what reference you were pulling that from . . .as I've mentioned here on other threads of the passage that I know of with this where it was with John as he was caught up (raptured?? Gasp!!!) in the spirit and he heard a voice "behind" him . .but in order for him to "see" the voice . . .he had to turn around (repent). I've always found that fascinating in that even in the spirit, John was facing the wrong way. My up-bringing always taught me that when you're in the spirit, that is where all things are made known and are right. "if" being in the Spirit is the cure-all solution to our religious needs . . .how can one be still facing the wrong way?
Unless, again, John being a picture of the church . .and being in where the golden candlestick is, as the second dimension, that . . .hmm . . . if the voice behind him was Christ "in" the candlestick . .then that would mean John's undivided attention was facing the 12 (government) loaves of bread . .which is the word . . .which is Christ
John 6
And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
Which for me is a great picture of the traditional church in that they emphasize the bread so much that they don't recognize or comprehend the proceeding Word. And it was Jesus himself who said "Man (flesh) shall not live on bread alone, but every word of God . . .for me, that is the difference between natural reasoning and spiritual revelation. Whether we're "in" the spirit or not, we "can" still be so focussed on the "activity" of the bread that we can't see the "sound" of the source of our bread.
Kind of took things a different direction here, huh . .sorry bout that.
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 21, 2008, 01:19:35 AM
Quote from: Taffy on December 21, 2008, 01:11:10 AM
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Nah no way Gramster you see I do that on PuRpoSE where you dont Mines still better then yours heh heh
hey..I dont sphelll to bad for a "Dyxlecsic", which i found out to be true some time back...
and for sure you sphpell beter englander tham I does,..but Grammer are Great :icon_flower:
Yeah Il be off shortly,(tis 11pm)..but kinda talking once again is Long over due...and want to cherish the Moment some... :icon_flower:
ya might disappear agin for a semi sabbatical :sigh:
Wow! You found out your dislexic? Is that how you spell it? Dang you do good then Graham, though its not comforting to me because that means your backwards in everything and can actually "get me" :grin: couldnt resist! lol
Oh and PALEASEEEEEE with this disappear AGAIN thang, dont even give ME that :grin: WHO took off ALL the time leaving us worried to death? who has done it since I met HIM? I never done it at all and I have my time (flat on my back have you) and take off because I simply couldnt type lol AND you start on my NEXT time? lol
I certainly hope not, I never pan on it, I just hung out on Riversandstars and OurGodrocks and Christianforums and we floated about, but you did too and mostly away from the rest of us :grin: Though you seemed to have settled down a bit here and thats good to see lol
Hugs for the NUT
Kim
Yup Guilty as Charged...been a Tough two yrs Kiddo,..as ya Know, In more ways than One..., Its weird.I love GOOD company , sharing akin..but theres times Im equally at ease Being alone, trouble is it becomes a Habit.and that aint always good......yup NUT, thats about right :laughing7:
Well staying at Tent..mm,never thought of it as settled down ,..so many people seem to come and go, bar a few, so its always seems rather new....
weird thou...how faces get Pulled together where ever ya are :HeartThrob:
So glad to see you Sis!
glad this post come to life!
I love this ! where to begin ,
thanks to all , Nate, Kimmy, Molly & Graham
I so want to dig in
its like the speaking with the '' new tongues''...
we seem to have the same language !hee hee
I so hope we can continue , and I am the notorious one for off topic thows , so dont fret none we can go all over the place on this thread without offense!! .. :laughing7:
love to all rose
QuoteHey Kim, where are ya from anyway? You've obviously got a history here . . . I can't believe you've been gone as you have. You see the same things, you ask the same kind of questions . .it's so cool to meet people who enter into the same rooms that have not been taught by a denomination, but have been having Truth revealed through the spirit and it's the same pictures seen by others.
Hi Nate , Kimbo is my bestest friend in the whole wide world
her and Grahamster the dancin' ''ham''ster hee
we are the 3 musketters hee hee .... :laughing7:
a little inside joke ..hee hee :icon_jokercolor: :happy3:
Quote from: rosered on December 21, 2008, 01:37:44 AM
So glad to see you Sis!
glad this post come to life!
I love this ! where to begin ,
thanks to all , Nate, Kimmy, Molly & Graham
I so want to dig in
its like the speaking with the " new tongues"...
we seem to have the same language !hee hee :HeartThrob:
I so hope we can continue , and I am the notorious one for off topic thows , so dont fret none we can go all over the place on this thread without offense!! .. :laughing7:
love to all rose
agh..Rose is here Kimmy, Right on Cue :icon_flower:
Hi sis :HeartThrob:
let that Tongue FLOW :HeartThrob:
Gramster
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 21, 2008, 01:28:39 AM
Quote from: Nathan on December 20, 2008, 11:35:23 PM
Pillars in the porch . . .now there's a sermon in itself! Christ "had" to set up his covenant, the New Covenant 'outside" the temple, even though the temple itself was the blueprint of him, the New Covenant, the porch, not just any porch, but Solomon's porch . .Solomon . .the "third" and last king of all of Israel . . .This is got resurrection all over it. East Gate, 3rd king . . . does it ever end????? :myahoo:
I reread this again, your right! Jesus had them sit on THE GRASS not in THE PEWS! No rain can get cha under a roof right? His teaching would drop as the dew upon the GRASS :grin:
Yeah, enough of the chit chat . .what do you think this is, some sort of hippie family gathering?? Taf, I thought you were going to bed!! :angel4: :eek:
I noticed that this Solomon's porch was also where the disciples hung out after their upper realm experience . . .how prophetic is that. The birthing of the new church, congregating on the porch of the old. But the more I think about that . .the more Solomon seems to be connected to all of this. Everything was golden in his reign. silver (redemption) was as plentiful as the stones . . . the 3rd generation of kings . .the kings of the east . . .the entering into the promised land after the fruitfulness of the flesh dries up . . the promised land not being heaven, but the kingdom of heaven. For me, there is a difference. one is the spiritual state, the other is comprehending the spiritual from the physical. There are still cities in us that need the walls taken down. We have enemies within us that desire only to gratify "self" but the gauntlet has been laid, the "woes" have been proclaimed and notice has been given . . there is a new nation entering this land by the direction and order of God himself. And it's "his" battle in us to fight, not we ourselves.
Six times in silence the city of bondage has been circled in silence. No hype, no taunting, just the sound of rhythmic footsteps of the message of freedom enveloping us at the dawn of the day. On the seventh day, the Day of the Sabbath . . .Rest is declared and Grace is decreed and the earth, our flesh responds to this be swallowing up the very walls that were built to keep our doctrines and philosphies entact . .. it all comes crashing down . . .both men and women . . .our hearts and minds . . .and children, the offspring of our devious thinking . .all of them taken down by the sword of Truth. What a way to go.
QuoteYeah, enough of the chit chat . .what do you think this is, some sort of hippie family gathering?? Taf, I thought you were going to bed!!
he ha..yup..im going ,im going :icon_flower:
wont get a word in edge ways anyway Now your about :laughing7:
Taffy , Your Final warning , Please stay on Topic , and let those other clowns have some fun. :icon_flower:
Kim has a writting on the 666
pieces of Gold about Solomons TEMPLE
Hope she puts this up here
I was amazed at the 12 lions two on each step ..?
2Ch 9:13 Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred and threescore and six talents of gold;
2Ch 9:14 Beside [that which] chapmen and merchants brought. And all the kings of Arabia and governors of the country brought gold and silver to Solomon.
And king Solomon made two hundred targets [of] beaten gold: six hundred [shekels] of beaten gold went to one target.
2Ch 9:16 And three hundred shields [made he of] beaten gold: three hundred [shekels] of gold went to one shield. And the king put them in the house of the forest of Lebanon.
2Ch 9:17 Moreover the king made a great throne of ivory, and overlaid it with pure gold.
2Ch 9:18 And [there were] six steps to the throne, with a footstool of gold, [which were] fastened to the throne, and stays on each side of the sitting place, and two lions standing by the stays:
2Ch 9:19 And twelve lions stood there on the one side and on the other upon the six steps. There was not the like made in any kingdom.
2Ch 9:20 And all the drinking vessels of king Solomon [were of] gold, and all the vessels of the house of the forest of Lebanon [were of] pure gold: none [were of] silver; it was [not] any thing accounted of in the days of Solomon.
Gold =TRUTH..
QuoteI never would have dreamed it would be this long, not fun when you dont choose it, but I know you know the feeling
Well sis as Ya mentioned in ya Pm , your break was a Learning curve about the whats going on out there...Kinda see it as Balance needed maybe.
And wow..the things ya learned in the Process ....I was Gobsmacked .
anyways Kiddo,I really need to lay my head....
Been a Pleasure chatting again , Tis almost like we never had a BREAK. :icon_flower:
who know , even Chrissie may turn up...wow, and that would be something :icon_flower:
Chat the morrow sis
xoxoxoxoxo
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 21, 2008, 02:42:00 AM
Quote from: Nathan on December 21, 2008, 01:50:39 AM
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 21, 2008, 01:28:39 AM
Quote from: Nathan on December 20, 2008, 11:35:23 PM
Pillars in the porch . . .now there's a sermon in itself! Christ "had" to set up his covenant, the New Covenant 'outside" the temple, even though the temple itself was the blueprint of him, the New Covenant, the porch, not just any porch, but Solomon's porch . .Solomon . .the "third" and last king of all of Israel . . .This is got resurrection all over it. East Gate, 3rd king . . . does it ever end????? :myahoo:
I reread this again, your right! Jesus had them sit on THE GRASS not in THE PEWS! No rain can get cha under a roof right? His teaching would drop as the dew upon the GRASS :grin:
Yeah, enough of the chit chat . .what do you think this is, some sort of hippie family gathering?? Taf, I thought you were going to bed!! :angel4: :eek:
I noticed that this Solomon's porch was also where the disciples hung out after their upper realm experience . . .how prophetic is that. The birthing of the new church, congregating on the porch of the old. But the more I think about that . .the more Solomon seems to be connected to all of this. Everything was golden in his reign. silver (redemption) was as plentiful as the stones . . . the 3rd generation of kings . .the kings of the east . . .the entering into the promised land after the fruitfulness of the flesh dries up . . the promised land not being heaven, but the kingdom of heaven. For me, there is a difference. one is the spiritual state, the other is comprehending the spiritual from the physical. There are still cities in us that need the walls taken down. We have enemies within us that desire only to gratify "self" but the gauntlet has been laid, the "woes" have been proclaimed and notice has been given . . there is a new nation entering this land by the direction and order of God himself. And it's "his" battle in us to fight, not we ourselves.
Six times in silence the city of bondage has been circled in silence. No hype, no taunting, just the sound of rhythmic footsteps of the message of freedom enveloping us at the dawn of the day. On the seventh day, the Day of the Sabbath . . .Rest is declared and Grace is decreed and the earth, our flesh responds to this be swallowing up the very walls that were built to keep our doctrines and philosphies entact . .. it all comes crashing down . . .both men and women . . .our hearts and minds . . .and children, the offspring of our devious thinking . .all of them taken down by the sword of Truth. What a way to go.
Theres no church upkeep on the grass, if folks only knew how much green we'd save having church on the green none of us would be broke huh? Thered be no touting, "we NEEEEEED Da financIAL miraCLE" :grin:
Nathan Im not that deep :grin: I wrestle with inner cities, horses etc :grin: I just come out of not being in the word for over a half a year I cannot possibly snap back this fast :grin:
Leave Taff alone :grin: He sure has got your number :grin:
Im TRYING to keep up here :grin: Yall are moving way too fast lol
Let me reread this post in the morning with a fresh mind, but tell me about this third generation of Kings, how did you stumble upon this and whats it mean to you, I never studied it before
Hugs :HeartThrob:
Kim
No worries Kim . . .my night is over as well as it's time for me to go home . . .and yes, I really do work here at quaker . . check my profile, it's a Quaker email address. I've worked here for 20 years . .got on 2 weeks after I married my best friend. I've got two teenaged daughters and twin 4 year old sons . . . with a cavern of "what hit me" in between.
I pastor a small church up here in Iowa that is all denomination . . .if they knew all of what I preach . . .they're threatening to discipline me as it is for going dimensional on them . . .they say they fear for my church . . .when I told that to my church . .they laughed hard and long.
As for your dryspell . . .here's the thing . .every time you mention that, the one word comes to me is "purpose". I'm wondering if God isn't trying to take that which is outside of you away for a while so that you can see that which was written outside, has been planted inside. And you see what you see because of his illumination in you . . . Peter was told to put away his sword as well . . .the church is still on a war path and the direction has changed to one of plowshares.
And unfortunately, as great of a time it's been in getting to know you tonight and freewheeling the revelation, there are those on this forum that will either demand physical proof of what is spiritually seen, or debate with you about why your version is inaccurate . . just hop on my profile and check my record . . .you won't need to go to far back until you'll see some of them . . .having said that . . .PLEASE . . .i don't know you as well as Taf does, but please . . .come play with us regardless of the weather out here on the pages.
I was thinking . .you changed tafs name . .someone should change yours . . . I see you as bofa . . .that's actually the Hebrew word for your name . . .okay . .not really . . .what it really means is Breath Of Fresh Air. Which is what you've been today . . . .
I'll be out and about tomorrow night at about this same time . . .i come in to work for 4 hours then . . . Until then . . .
Blessings to you and it's been a pleasure meeting you.
My Daughter come home from work
I had to get off so she could check out facebook
and I came back and it is over ,,, everything I missed it ! :mshock:
"And the second poured out his bowl into the sea. And it became blood like that of a corpse. And every living creature died, the things in the sea. And the third poured out his bowl into the rivers and springs of the waters. And they became blood. And I heard the angel of the waters saying, You are just, the One who is and who was, the Holy One, because you administered justice in the case of these things, for they poured out saints' and prophets' blood, and blood to them you have given to drink. They are those who deserve this. And I heard the altar saying, Yes, O Lord God, Omnipotent, dependable and just are your judgments." (Rv 16:3-7, Weust's Expanded Translation)
The spirit quickens to life according to the Messenger's carried message. Throughout all existing water: solid, gas, but specially liquid, there is an assigned "from (water,) through (water) and to (water)" entity. That one is in complete correspondance with all consciousness and expression of "water." It records all water. It can impart water. The seed body is the word of the message and it's life is spirit. This is "the angel (messenger) of the waters."
I don't think this angel is the same as in John 5, but perhaps there was an interaction involved.
"For a messenger of the Lord at a certain season bathed in the pool and disturbed the water. He, then, who first steps in after the disturbing of the water, became sound of whatsoever disease he was held." (Jn 5:4, CLV)
I'm sure there's also an "angel of the internet." God is moving. The water's flowing. People are getting healed!
your brother, James Rohde (my house presently has 5 porches)
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 21, 2008, 05:14:35 AM
Quote from: rosered on December 21, 2008, 04:24:08 AM
My Daughter come home from work
I had to get off so she could check out facebook
and I came back and it is over ,,, everything I missed it ! :mshock:
Ya gotta RULE OVER those children of yours :grin:
Facebook?
Is facebook more important then HERE? Are ya kidding me? :grin:
You must take your power back sis, your children are causing you to miss all the action :laughing7:
Tell them they are grounded off the puter until we dry up again :grin:
Hugs :HeartThrob:
Kimbo
lol ,she had come home after 7 hours of a check out girl at the local grocery store and asked me if she could get on ?
can I rob her of her youth and vanity sis ? LOL. :laughing7:
she has a boyfriend that is her status now ''taken'' and she checks out all his and her friends that are commenting on them as a couple :HeartThrob:
I want my own puter some day! whhhaaah! :happygrin: it is hers after all hee hee
love rose
Quote from: reFORMer on December 21, 2008, 05:21:33 AM
"And the second poured out his bowl into the sea. And it became blood like that of a corpse. And every living creature died, the things in the sea. And the third poured out his bowl into the rivers and springs of the waters. And they became blood. And I heard the angel of the waters saying, You are just, the One who is and who was, the Holy One, because you administered justice in the case of these things, for they poured out saints' and prophets' blood, and blood to them you have given to drink. They are those who deserve this. And I heard the altar saying, Yes, O Lord God, Omnipotent, dependable and just are your judgments." (Rv 16:3-7, Weust's Expanded Translation)
The spirit quickens to life according to the Messenger's carried message. Throughout all existing water: solid, gas, but specially liquid, there is an assigned "from (water,) through (water) and to (water)" entity. That one is in complete correspondance with all consciousness and expression of "water." It records all water. It can impart water. The seed body is the word of the message and it's life is spirit. This is "the angel (messenger) of the waters."
I don't think this angel is the same as in John 5, but perhaps there was an interaction involved.
"For a messenger of the Lord at a certain season bathed in the pool and disturbed the water. He, then, who first steps in after the disturbing of the water, became sound of whatsoever disease he was held." (Jn 5:4, CLV)
I'm sure there's also an "angel of the internet." God is moving. The water's flowing. People are getting healed!
your brother, James Rohde (my house presently has 5 porches)
Thanks James indeed it is ! the waters are voices and they are above and below a multitude of them waters / voices :thumbsup:
it can be compared to jumping in the middle of a comotion [stiring] on the boards and the Holy Spirit /wind breath calming the waters to me
and about that seed :thumbsup:
Num 24:7 He shall pour the water out of his buckets, and his seed [shall be] in many waters, and his king shall be higher than Agag, and his kingdom shall be exalted.
I love psalms 93 awesome !!
Psa 93:1 The LORD reigns, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, [wherewith] he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.
Psa 93:2 Thy throne [is] established of old: thou [art] from everlasting.
Psa 93:3 The floods have lifted up, O LORD,
the floods have lifted up their voice; the floods lift up their waves. Psa 93:4
The LORD on high [is] mightier than the noise of many waters, [yea, than] the mighty waves of the sea.
Psa 93:5 Thy testimonies are very sure: holiness becomes thine house, O LORD, for ever.
your on a roll sis
the waters above and those below :icon_flower:
love this verse
Jer 10:13 When he uttereth his voice, [there is] a multitude of waters in the heavens, and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures.
Rev 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:( saints offering Prayers)
amen Bro G !
it nice to start fresh in the morning when all the comotion in the mind from the night before disapates ! :thumbsup:
yo sis
Cant rob them of their youth :icon_flower:
Got the same with ours...ALL stops :laughing7:
four teenagers,...he ha!
Like we werent Young once :laughing7:( notice i didnt say Foolish) heha
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Quote from: rosered on December 21, 2008, 07:24:40 PM
amen Bro G !
it nice to start fresh in the morning when all the comotion in the mind from the night before disapates ! :thumbsup:
Gee sis...
your Posts are really become Clear thesedays...our prayers are being answered :icon_flower:
Quote from: Taffy on December 21, 2008, 07:28:00 PM
Quote from: rosered on December 21, 2008, 07:24:40 PM
amen Bro G !
it nice to start fresh in the morning when all the comotion in the mind from the night before disapates ! :thumbsup:
Gee sis...
your Posts are really become Clear thesedays...our prayers are being answered :icon_flower:
Amen Bro prayers are being answered ! Kimmy is back , I love the ways of the Lord ! and his people
God s love is being manifested :HeartThrob:
And Yes the Lord is helping me clearing the mud , us all :icon_flower:
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 22, 2008, 12:38:11 AM
Quote from: rosered on December 21, 2008, 06:40:45 PM
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 21, 2008, 05:14:35 AM
Quote from: rosered on December 21, 2008, 04:24:08 AM
My Daughter come home from work
I had to get off so she could check out facebook
and I came back and it is over ,,, everything I missed it ! :mshock:
Ya gotta RULE OVER those children of yours :grin:
Facebook?
Is facebook more important then HERE? Are ya kidding me? :grin:
You must take your power back sis, your children are causing you to miss all the action :laughing7:
Tell them they are grounded off the puter until we dry up again :grin:
Hugs :HeartThrob:
Kimbo
lol ,she had come home after 7 hours of a check out girl at the local grocery store and asked me if she could get on ?
can I rob her of her youth and vanity sis ? LOL. :laughing7:
she has a boyfriend that is her status now "taken" and she checks out all his and her friends that are commenting on them as a couple :HeartThrob:
I want my own puter some day! whhhaaah! :happygrin: it is hers after all hee hee
love rose
Laura has just been ruining things here, shes talking with her new boyfreind and leaving me with battery time on your rechargeable phone :grin: I get on and say "Hiya" and the thing starts beeping immediately and I got nothing :grin: Im gonna have a talk with her when your out running errands :grin: We need an "understanding" here lol Her computer and phone time are bucking into my territory :grin:
just busting on ya sis ((hugs)) :HeartThrob:
Kimbo
They are quite the handful sis , but what would I do ?
he is fixing to call at any time this evening from Okalohoma!!
its a long story lol hee hee , hope to share this with you some time real soon ... I love ya girl! :HeartThrob:
King Solomon here . . .(he was quite a lady's man as well eh?)
Yeah, I have the solution to your phone/internet access problem . . .just hold the little lady up here and let me take a swipe at her with my trusty sword and we'll see which half ya want after that!!
Okay . .that's not really the solution . .but I "would" tell here that "if" she's on the phone, you get the computer . .if she's on the computer . .you get the phone . . .even it out that way . .yeah, you can thank me later . . . my fee is low . .usually .except around the holidays . . .oh . . .looky there . . .it's Christmas! Ha . .well, I'm sure we can set up monthly payments for ya, I'm pretty flexible that way. :bowing:
Hey Chick Magnet :icon_flower:
didnt think to hear from ya till Monday.... :happy3:
Warning,...No chick Magnets allowed..bar me,..Mods Rights :laughing7: ..get in the Que
Come On........... would you want a Thousand chicks beating on ya door,...For those who do ,Please fill in the appropriate forms :icon_flower:
anyways, what was this Thread about??????????????? :laughing7:
Your killin' me!!! It was ONE post about ONE little conceited moment in my life and WHAMMO . . . I'm pegged for life now????
sheesh . . . So much for friggin' Christmas spirit!! :banana: Ya gotta love that dancing banana!
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 22, 2008, 02:52:14 AM
:grin: He introduces himself as King Solomon :grin: I never laughed so hard
King Solomon was a very busy man :grin:
In the natural I can not understand how he could have a moment to reflect on God :mshock:
Gee sis...I thought hes have all The TIME he needed....he only Had a thousand :icon_flower:
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 22, 2008, 02:55:27 AM
That "little member", that boastful "little firey devil" will always cost ya too, Graham will make sure of it :grin:
Yeah That little rudder..darn Thing,...sorta speaks From the Abundance of the Heart sis..cant see why though :dontknow:
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 22, 2008, 02:57:17 AM
Whats the saying?
pride comes before a WHAMMO?? :grin:
da fall..mmmm :icon_flower:
Quote from: Nathan on December 22, 2008, 02:52:51 AM
Your killin' me!!! It was ONE post about ONE little conceited moment in my life and WHAMMO . . . I'm pegged for life now????
sheesh . . . So much for friggin' Christmas spirit!! :banana: Ya gotta love that dancing banana!
agh there ya Are Bud....just got to watch that Tongue...no worries Bro, ..youll have fun seeking :icon_flower:
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 22, 2008, 03:01:44 AM
Quote from: Taffy on December 22, 2008, 02:55:51 AM
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 22, 2008, 02:52:14 AM
:grin: He introduces himself as King Solomon :grin: I never laughed so hard
King Solomon was a very busy man :grin:
In the natural I can not understand how he could have a moment to reflect on God :mshock:
Gee sis...I thought hes have all The TIME he needed....he only Had a thousand :icon_flower:
Imagine setting aside 1 day for every wife? Its crazy, that would take over 3 years to make it through all of them till he got back to the first one and by his third visit he certainly wouldnt reccognize her when he made his rounds again :grin: We havent even touched on how fathers day was handled :grin:
ROFL...Gee the guy must have been real busy ya Know..maybe he Had a Twin to help him some...Gosh , they be tired anyways....Never mind the Talking
sorry sis .Havent giggled so much for ages.....im doubling up here :laughing7:
Just as well he never was BLESSED with two thousand
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 22, 2008, 02:28:16 AM
Quote from: Nathan on December 22, 2008, 02:20:55 AM
King Solomon here . . .(he was quite a lady's man as well eh?)
Yeah, I have the solution to your phone/internet access problem . . .just hold the little lady up here and let me take a swipe at her with my trusty sword and we'll see which half ya want after that!!
Okay . .that's not really the solution . .but I "would" tell here that "if" she's on the phone, you get the computer . .if she's on the computer . .you get the phone . . .even it out that way . .yeah, you can thank me later . . . my fee is low . .usually .except around the holidays . . .oh . . .looky there . . .it's Christmas! Ha . .well, I'm sure we can set up monthly payments for ya, I'm pretty flexible that way. :bowing:
Her phoneline is her computer line :grin: You still want that low fee for that advice? lol
Yeah Solomon was a chick magnet :grin:
Oh . . .well @#!!%%@ . . .never mind then.
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 22, 2008, 03:03:40 AM
Quote from: Taffy on December 22, 2008, 02:59:35 AM
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 22, 2008, 02:57:17 AM
Whats the saying?
pride comes before a WHAMMO?? :grin:
da fall..mmmm :icon_flower:
:grin: Nathan calls it a "whammo"
I think he tries to lessen the blow to his ego lol
agh..whammo..im wid ya... keep ya Head low sis..just saw Nat log in... :laughing7:
Quote from: Nathan on December 22, 2008, 03:07:01 AM
Quote from: Fireinfolding on December 22, 2008, 02:28:16 AM
Quote from: Nathan on December 22, 2008, 02:20:55 AM
King Solomon here . . .(he was quite a lady's man as well eh?)
Yeah, I have the solution to your phone/internet access problem . . .just hold the little lady up here and let me take a swipe at her with my trusty sword and we'll see which half ya want after that!!
Okay . .that's not really the solution . .but I "would" tell here that "if" she's on the phone, you get the computer . .if she's on the computer . .you get the phone . . .even it out that way . .yeah, you can thank me later . . . my fee is low . .usually .except around the holidays . . .oh . . .looky there . . .it's Christmas! Ha . .well, I'm sure we can set up monthly payments for ya, I'm pretty flexible that way. :bowing:
Her phoneline is her computer line :grin: You still want that low fee for that advice? lol
Yeah Solomon was a chick magnet :grin:
Oh . . .well @#!!%%@ . . .never mind then.
Hey Brud...
No worries.. wes kinda a Nuts,,,and its been a Time since we got together some..call it re"JOY"ing :icon_flower:
QuoteWe call it having "tea" time, though we could never do that here cause we would just go back and forth from morning till we couldnt keep our eyes open no more (into the next morning)
yeah sis.will always Cherish those Tea and Cookie days....forever
love ya to bits Girl
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COME ON!!! Will ya let me post!!! THREE TIMES I've tried and EVERY time ya interupt my stuff!!! GO TO BED ALREADY . . .
Sorry about the langage thing . . . I'm kinda pumped up a little . . . stupid rudder gets stuck in overdrive and I have trouble getting it back out a gear.
Had some fun in church today . . .our Sunday school consists of the book "hope beyond hell" and then that carries over into the service where we basically found ourselves in Matthew 13 with the tares and the seed . . .then I get to come read your stuff . . .lot there I haven't got to yet though because I've found myself hooked on a stupid chicken shooting game on the internet . .I'm on the line right now and it just went down . .gotta go.
Quote from: Nathan on December 22, 2008, 03:26:21 AM
COME ON!!! Will ya let me post!!! THREE TIMES I've tried and EVERY time ya interupt my stuff!!! GO TO BED ALREADY . . .
Sorry about the langage thing . . . I'm kinda pumped up a little . . . stupid rudder gets stuck in overdrive and I have trouble getting it back out a gear.
Had some fun in church today . . .our Sunday school consists of the book "hope beyond hell" and then that carries over into the service where we basically found ourselves in Matthew 13 with the tares and the seed . . .then I get to come read your stuff . . .lot there I haven't got to yet though because I've found myself hooked on a stupid chicken shooting game on the internet . .I'm on the line right now and it just went down . .gotta go.
Ive been and Got back up Bro, did ya get chance to post..I thought Id banned ya after 500 posts so some else could have chance :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:
Nah matey,,tis a Cookie me thinks...its happened before with WW and Paul H i believe...If keeps Happening pm Martin...or let me know, he may bump up your post count, ..see ya got ya wish :happy3:
hey..I love those silly games too , we had one called Tin can alley ,we sorta Like our Chickens :laughing7:
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