Eagles and the spirit.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Interesting. I've seen an eagle 3 times while praying with someone. The first time, attention was directed at it's back. It was very tall, taller than an average man. The shoulders looking at it from the back, it's what was specifically to be my focus. As I watched intently, they changed into a purple robe.

The second time, about a year after the first time, I was praying with someone I had just met in another state. The Lord told me to stand on his right side. I did, and was shocked to see the eagle again and sense like a giant wing wrap itself around me like it was standing where he was and it was his wing. I suddenly felt what I could only describe, as a Spirit of holiness, and in the Spirit I saw myself walking beside someone unseen, thru a garden only there were trees in there too. I was stunned and kept weeping and thanking God. I refused to move for like 15 minutes, because I didn't want it to ever end.

The third time, I was in a kingdom oriented fellowship, and saw an eagle in the Spirit swoop down and scoop up a baby in it's wings, which I was given to understand was that body. It brought to my memory the scripture in Isaiah about bearing us up on eagles wings. So from my perspective, I don't think it's anything bad at all. Blessings to all.....

[Livelystone]

Somewhere the eagle carried a serpent too........ I believe it was something to do with Dan. I do not know where but if you check Stephen Jones archives it might show up.

It would seem to me the the eagle has to do with spirit (eagles gathering by carcasses) but how do you know the manner of spirit without viewing how it flies and what it does?.............. demons are just "bad angels". Also as one of the beast natures around the throne it would also seem to be making a reference to a nature.

It was one of the 4 things that Solomon did not understand but there is an abundance of questionable company along where it is mentioned in Prov. 30 :18,19.

Blessings

Doug

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Eagles swoop down on snakes. And if I'm not mistaken they don't eat carrion, preferring the life to be in their meal. They make their nests in the clefts of rocks ;). And they fly above the storm. Bill Britton wrote an excellent little article years ago, called Eagle Saints Arise, likening them to the overcomers. I never understood why eagles would be at the scene of a carcass, but I do now. They witness the flesh of Him being no more. Blessings.......

[Livelystone]

Well actually most eagles are vultures and especially the bald eagle who is known to frequent garbage dumps. The way you can tell is the feathers on the legs.......... ones like the golden eagle are true predators.

I like Bill Britton a real lot and he was the first person I heard of when I got out that believed what I had found to be true. I was really bummed when I found out he had passed and I am sorry for all the leeches and ungodly people that use his good name to draw attention to themselves.

However I if someone offered me a ticket to go into the wilderness and be fed by a serpent that represents the dragon that represents pharaoh that represents bondage to sin and flesh.........I will pass on the offer.

If that is a mistake on my part it will not be my first.

Blessings

Doug

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: What you said, went right over my head, sorry, not exactly sure what you meant. I was speaking of natural things in regards to the snakes they eat. It is the national symbol of Mexico, too, because of this. However, I still see something spiritual in them, though. We are told that them that believe will pick up snakes (lift up the serpent natures of man into the mind of Christ).......Blessings to you.......

[Molly]

I think Doug is referring to this:

Revelation 12:14
And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Oh, OK.......well that's what happens when I haven't had my morning coffee, yet..... :winkgrin: thanks for translating for me Molly ;)

[Livelystone]

I think Doug is referring to this:

Revelation 12:14
And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

That is correct Molly

IMO that is another misunderstood verse but in most circumstances it speaks the truth of those who claim to have carried away in this manner, at least the ones whom I have met. God has ways of getting people to admit the truth even when they do not know they are doing so.

Blessings

Doug

[arcticmonster2003]

However, I still see something spiritual in them, though. We are told that them that believe will pick up snakes (lift up the serpent natures of man into the mind of Christ).......Blessings to you.......

Perhaps, as man was made in the likeness of God, some of the animals might have been made in the likeness of other beings in heaven.

[Molly]

14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

15And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

16And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


--Revelation 12

[Taffy]

:cloud9: What you said, went right over my head, sorry, not exactly sure what you meant. I was speaking of natural things in regards to the snakes they eat. It is the national symbol of Mexico, too, because of this. However, I still see something spiritual in them, though. We are told that them that believe will pick up snakes (lift up the serpent natures of man into the mind of Christ).......Blessings to you.......

Hi Cardinal..
as for the Eagle , Remind of the lyrics " On the wings of LOVE" by Jeffery Osbourne. :icon_flower:

and for those serpents..
I understand some take this literally..but not for mine
Luk 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

correlates somewhat with ThisAct 28:3  And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid [them] on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand.


Act 28:4  And when the barbarians saw the [venomous] beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live.


Act 28:5  And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm.


Act 28:6  Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god.




Its interesting to see Who Christ called Serpents?

Math 23..speaks of those who sat In Moses seat...

Mat 23:33 [Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

scorpions are LIKENED to Serpents\locusts

Eze 2:6 And thou, son of man, be not afraid of them, neither be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns ( sins) [be] with thee, and thou dost dwell among scorpions: be not afraid of their words, nor be dismayed at their looks, though they [be] a rebellious house.

The ongue has within it the POWER of Life and death..Preaching LAW or Prophesing TRUTH

Rev 9:19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails [were] like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.

Pro 30:27 The locusts have no king, yet go they forth all of them by bands;

dont have time to continue..im being beckoned for lunch


Those firey darts( words) we Quench with The shield of FAITH...are words which do US NO harm..all correlates...

Stand TALL in the FAITH, and those words of LAW can do you NO HARM...

Blessings
Taffy

[Molly]

15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. --Genesis 3




.....where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. --Revelation 12

[Livelystone]

17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Well for sure he did not have to war against the woman who was already in compliance with him  (the unclean woman of 12 years with the issue of blood or of 18 years bowed to the earth). I would guess that those of her who press through the crowd to touch the hem of His garment would be that seed that Satan wars against. Does the woman of 18 years of being stooped over to the earth represent the rest of the church.......... the ones who are healed at the end of the 1000 years? That would seem to add up correctly with the rest of prophecy so you can see there are two separate woman here.......... just like there was back in the garden

Blessings

Doug

PS. Thanks for the split Davo  :thumbsup:

[Molly]

The woman is nourishing herself from the face of the serpent.

It is the remnant of the woman's seed that the dragon is warring against.

Yes, Amen!

[laren]

:cloud9: What you said, went right over my head, sorry, not exactly sure what you meant. I was speaking of natural things in regards to the snakes they eat. It is the national symbol of Mexico, too, because of this. However, I still see something spiritual in them, though. We are told that them that believe will pick up snakes (lift up the serpent natures of man into the mind of Christ).......Blessings to you.......

Hi Cardinal..
as for the Eagle , Remind of the lyrics " On the wings of LOVE" by Jeffery Osbourne. :icon_flower:

and for those serpents..
I understand some take this literally..but not for mine
Luk 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

correlates somewhat with ThisAct 28:3  And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid [them] on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand.


Act 28:4  And when the barbarians saw the [venomous] beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live.


Act 28:5  And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm.


Act 28:6  Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god.




Its interesting to see Who Christ called Serpents?

Math 23..speaks of those who sat In Moses seat...

Mat 23:33 [Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

scorpions are LIKENED to Serpents\locusts

Eze 2:6 And thou, son of man, be not afraid of them, neither be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns ( sins) [be] with thee, and thou dost dwell among scorpions: be not afraid of their words, nor be dismayed at their looks, though they [be] a rebellious house.

The ongue has within it the POWER of Life and death..Preaching LAW or Prophesing TRUTH

Rev 9:19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails [were] like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.

Pro 30:27 The locusts have no king, yet go they forth all of them by bands;

dont have time to continue..im being beckoned for lunch


Those firey darts( words) we Quench with The shield of FAITH...are words which do US NO harm..all correlates...

Stand TALL in the FAITH, and those words of LAW can do you NO HARM...

Blessings
Taffy

Hi T,

Hope this doesn't side track this thread but thought of it when I read your post. 


Here is some thots.   Kind of random, hope they make sense. 


Mar 14:58  We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.

Act 19:26  Moreover ye see and hear, that not alone at Ephesus, but almost throughout all Asia, this Paul hath persuaded and turned away much people, saying that they be no gods, which are made with hands:

2Co 5:1  For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

Act 7:48  Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,

Act 17:24  God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

Col 2:11  In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Heb 9:11  But Christ being come a high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

Heb 9:24  For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

Joh 3:3  Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

1Pe 1:23  Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth forever.

Joh 3:5  Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Joh 3:6  That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Joh 3:7  Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Matt. 3:9  And THINK NOT to say WITHIN YOURSELVES, WE HAVE ABRAHAM TO OUR FATHER: for I say unto you, that GOD IS ABLE of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham."

Works of the hand represent, the works of the beast.  Human potential rather than God potential.  Idols of the heart. 

Those who have been given ears to hear, aknowledge their human limitations.

Acknowledgment of human limitations, which the law exposed, results in repentance, CHANGING MINDS about independent HUMAN POTENTIAL that has standing in the old covenant.

Those with hardened hearts, can not change their minds about how they view human glory. They do not REPENT so they could not BELIEVE (Mark 1:15).

The message that Christ is preaching "With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible."

Those who had received the "mark of the beast", which marked their forehead (the mind-set in human potential ) and their right hand ("circumcision made with hands") were thrown into the lake of fire which is the second death.

They were not true jews, no circumcision of the heart.  They "REPENTED NOT of the WORKS OF THEIR HANDS". The works of their hands became their idolatry.

Acts 28:
3) And when Paul gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a VIPER out of the heat, and FASTENED ON HIS HAND.

4) And when the barbarians saw the venomous BEAST hang ON HIS HAND, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live.

Rev 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

5) And HE SHOOK OFF THE BEAST INTO THE FIRE, and felt no harm.

Paul overcame the beast, the beast did not mark Paul on the hand because he had "no confidence" "in the flesh".

Phi 3:3  For we are the circumcision (true circumcision of the heart), which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

Rather the viper was thrown "into the fire" and no harm came to Paul because the "second death" could not harm the new creature that did not receive the mark of the beast.

We must be born again, die to independent human potential (the mindset of human potential, the mark of the beast) and be born into that of God possibility.

Idols are the temple made with hand, circumcision made with hands, the old Jerusalem of human possibility.

Num. 21:9

And Moses MADE A SERPENT OF BRASS, [Moses made a new idol] and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man [Acts 28:3], when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.

Physical Circumcision was given as a promise of, and a shadow of good things to come.

But the problem is, man makes the shadow his idol.

Circumcision marked the coming end of the validity of the flesh as the flesh would be cut off.

In the wilderness application it referred to a change of idols, which depicted a change from an independent human potential to God's possibility in Christ.

In the end of the age the works of the serpent of old are destroyed.

Rev 2:11  He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

[Redlettervoice]

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Excellent understanding to me, Laren.

I like the way you said that.

[Taffy]

Not at all Laren, Nicely expounded , :thumbsup:

which leads for mine ..If your  hand\HANDS offend YOU cut it off..another topic,

all spirtually discerened as you know so well Bro

Blessings
and thanks for adding :icon_flower:

Taffy

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9:     "Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. 13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. 14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.  15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. 16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. 17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."

:2c: The woman is nourished, but not from the face of the serpent; but nourished from, from.... as in, AWAY FROM, the face/nature of the serpent. A time, times, and half a time speak of years; this is one place where they get the 3 1/2 years of "tribulation" from. And the time is short because God cut it short, lest all should perish. This is the silence in heaven for a half hour. The hour of our temptation/tribulation is cut short.

She is being nourished by God. God will bless any who will humble themselves in the wilderness ;). Collectively, she is the "church" who "birthed" those of the kingdom that are destined to be called by his name, the remnant of her seed. She is not the firstfruits, but she will be saved, in her order, for the woman is saved in childbirth ;).....

Singularly, she is the "woman" of all of us, and Satan is making war with the remnant of our seed, which is Christ within, ie. the REMNANT WITHIN THE REMNANT. Just like when the Spirit of God took Jesus out into the wilderness to be tempted of Satan. He hungered afterwards, but it wasn't for spiritual food, because He was "nourished" in the wilderness, too. Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word/breath that comes from the mouth of God.

The flood is a flood of words, water speaks of a flow of spirit, in this case the collective voices of the carnal minds around us trying to speak "death" or "idle words" that they will give an account of. Idle there runs into a meaning of "unemployed", as in, the Spirit of God didn't employ them. HIS Spirit speaks LIFE and not condemnation that ministers death to the hearer. The serpent that began in the garden, the evil imaginations of mens minds, by this time, has grown thru generations of wickedness, to now be dragon sized.

The earth, are the people in the outer court realm, the dust realm, that are as the swine, unable to discern thru the Spirit without the baptism of it, so they eat both the husk and the grain. It has been ordained of God that they help the woman, by having their bands made stronger in the receiving of the darkness/water as a flood that the remnant of her seed is being set free from, which is why He cast the devils into the swine.

This is why the day of the Lord is mentioned in one place great glory/light, and in another great darkness. It is a mystery, because it appears to be both at the same time. It is both at the same time, because as we are becoming the day of the Lord, no part darkness, they are having their bands strengthened, which is why it keeps looking darker and darker "out there". Yet still, there are many sick and dying among us, who have not yet discerned the Lord's body.

But the good news for them (outer court) is, they are being marked, Sheba means "marked to return", and when "she' who has lived like a queen sees the wealth of Solomon, and the wisdom God has given this son of God, there will be no more breath (of Adam) in her. Glory to the Most High God, Father, we give You praise! Blessings to all this day.......

PS. I didn't even connect my eagle experience with anything in there until you all brought it up. I just knew it was God and I never asked Him what it meant at the time. I just enjoyed the immensity of His presence in that way. Thanks for pointing that out.....it blessed me!

[Livelystone]

It does not say "kept from the face"

If I receive nourishment from you then you have fed me.......... why would the scriptures be any different?

Blessings

Doug

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: It's typical KJ wording. It's plain she's not being nourished by the serpent; it says he's persecuting her in the previous sentence. Does it nourish her in one sentence and try to kill her with a flood in the next? She was taken out into the wilderness for protection to be nourished by God. Just like the babe Jesus was taken into the "flesh/wilderness" of Egypt to protect him and nourish him so He could grow up, and Herod couldn't get at Him. And just like we were taken out into the wilderness so we could be nourished and grow up into the full measure of Christ. He's there for the same reason he's always been there; a muscle doesn't become strong without opposition. Neither does an army with no one to fight.

In addition to that, God repeats every precept, because the Word witnesses itself. That's one of the main ways we know it's a precept of Him. Don't recall anywhere in there, that Satan nourished anyone, in any form, so no witness. Blessings to you......

[Livelystone]

Peace to you

The church is taken into the wilderness and is one more reason we are told to come out of her. Jesus went into the wilderness and came out and is a pattern for us. The wilderness is the playground of the dragon and his tail......... the prophets that teach lies......... the words that are the flood of the serpent that are soaked up by the earth (flesh).

The following scriptures speak of the woman (unclean church, unclean soul of man) and Pharaoh (ruler of the spirit of man)in the wilderness where she will remain !!!.

Eze 29 3: Behold, I am against thee, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his rivers, which hath said, My river is mine own, and I have made it for myself. 4 But I will put hooks in thy jaws, and I will cause the fish of thy rivers to stick unto thy scales, and I will bring thee up out of the midst of thy rivers, and all the fish of thy rivers shall stick unto thy scales. 5 And I will leave thee thrown into the wilderness, thee and all the fish of thy rivers: thou shalt fall upon the open fields; thou shalt not be brought together, nor gathered: I have given thee for meat to the beasts of the field and to the fowls of the heaven.

Gal. 4: 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are ? the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar" 25for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children" 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Two women, two Jerusalems but one wilderness and one heaven. The woman (soul) in the wilderness is of the flesh (earth) and is NOT the one from above whom is given to overcomers............ she is the free woman, soul/flesh of Jesus who has gone into heaven.

Blessings

Doug

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Hi; I know she's not the one given to overcomers. I showed 2 women; one the collective outer court church "woman", still under the law just as much as natural Israel, and one the singular soul of every man, still under the law until the "flesh" (not literal body here only) "dies".

And she, the collective one, will have her time, ie. WE cry how long O Lord, before our brethren will be killed the SAME WAY we were. That's why I said Christ, the remnant within the remnant is what is preserved, in the singular example. And when it's their turn, they too will go thru the processing of God as there is no shortcut between the outer court and the Holy of Holies; all must go thru the trimming of the wicks and the lighting of the candles/souls.

And the dragon is not Pharoah, but Pharoah was a TYPE of it, and a type of the carnal mind of man, which is a spirit, just as Egypt is a type of the flesh. And yes He came out of the wilderness, but the Spirit of God TWICE sent Him in there, He had to go in to come out; once as a babe and once as a man. He went in as a babe for the same reason we do, to take on the image of sinful flesh, to be hidden in God's "quiver", processed until the arrow can hit the mark.

Just as Christ called Peter to come out of the boat (wood speaks of the carnal nature of man) to overcome the flesh/Sodom and Gomorrha/carnal mind and walk in the proceeding word of life that came from the Father's mouth. And then immediately the wind was contrary to them, as in IMMEDIATELY, Satan comes to steal the Word/breath from our hearts. Yet when he obeyed, and Peter got BACK IN the boat, Christ came in the boat, and IMMEDIATELY, they were ON THE OTHER SIDE.

God took Moses out, so He could take him back in again. He had Pharoah oppose him. He continually takes us in and out, ascends and descends, as He is filling all in all, and teaching us to move quickly and find Him in every situation, learning to be content in Him in whatever state we find ourselves.

I think we're seeing the same thing, but expressing it differently in the "language" He gave it to each of us. Blessings to you.....

[Sarah]

Put the trumpet to your lips! Like an eagle the enemy comes against the house of the LORD, Because they have transgressed My covenant And rebelled against My law.

"Their horses are swifter than leopards And keener than wolves in the evening. Their horsemen come galloping, Their horsemen come from afar; They fly like an eagle swooping down to devour.

I had always thought an eagle was a good thing, until I discovered that many times in scripture it is an image used to describe the instrument of destruction in the hand of God against His people.

In the natural eagles are vultures, they eat dead flesh.  The Babylonian and Roman and Assyian armies consumed the dead body of the Israelies. 

In the spiritual, eagles would consume the death within us....that is a good thing.

"Like an eagle that stirs up its nest,
That hovers over its young,
He spread His wings and caught them,
He carried them on His pinions.
12 "The LORD alone guided him,
And there was no foreign god with him.
13 "He made him ride on the high places of the earth,

[Livelystone]

Hi Sarah

That would fit well with the Jews being sent back into the wilderness the second time to die.

Blessings

Doug

[Redlettervoice]

I know there may be some negative connatation to eagles, but there is the scripture that says "They'
that WAIT upon the Lord shall be LIKE Eagles........"

To me,. Jesus "is" the GREAT Eagle, and his Words and His Spirit are the wings of the EAGLE.

An Eagle has been taught to take "advantage" of the "winds" of "storms" .........they MOUNT up ON TOP
of a storm and "ride" it! Thus the storm itself becomes theirs in a sense.  The "storm wind" is not "wasted"
to an Eagle, he sees the "good" in it, and takes advantage of the wind, sitting right on top of the storm
and not IN the Storm, but ON TOP of it, by the grace of God.

I heard a sermon once about Eagles, chickens, and turkeys. ha .........it was good, but I can't remember it now.  If we are able to be an EAGLE in the sense I spoke, we have been made that way by His Spirit
and there is no boasting.........we could be scratching with the chickens tomorrow! ha