Prince William of Wales - the little horn

[greg]

Are all those pictures from the Olympics? Insane! We got rid of TV years ago and whenever I catch something on at someone's house I really am shocked (for example the Grammys seems satanic to me and halftime shows, etc.) before believing in UR it caused a lot of fear for me. I used to get into the whole conspiracy/illuminati thing but I have had to distance myself because of the effect it had on me (fear, anxiety, etc) plus for me it makes me feel helpless, because this stuff exists and I can do anything to change that fact, I guess only God can and I will trust him to be in control.

It does seem a little insane, I agree.  And yes, every picture in my last post is from the 2012 London Olympics, except this one was from the Queen of England's 'Diamond Jubilee' the month earlier (June 2012) to celebrate her 50-years of monarchy:

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Also, the pyramid at the bottom of this picture was not at the London Olympics, but rather was included by the person to demonstrate the occult connection:

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That's probably a good thing that these occult images offend something inside of you, and that you realize what's happening at the Grammy's and Super Bowl, etc.  Indeed, you're probably better off not having a TV, because you're less likely to give away your focus/power to the occult.   

The little horn appears to be a figurehead, which I think is the point - it gets your attention/focus.  It certainly got the attention of Daniel in Daniel 7:19-27.

[micah7:9]

This is all....well....so amazing :Chinscratch:

[joeteekay]

The house of Israel, the northern kingdom also known as Ephraim and Joseph, was divorced by God and driven from the land because of their worship of false gods.  They were taken to Assyria, then they went missing among the nations.  But in the place where it was said to them, "You are not my people," they shall be called, "sons of the Living God."



"Put the horn to your lips! Men who hate us are coming like an eagle to fight against the house of the Lord, because the people of Israel have sinned against My agreement and would not obey My Law.  2 They cry out to Me, 'My God, we of Israel know You!'  3 Israel has turned away from the good, and those who hate him will come after him.  4 They have set up kings, but not by Me. They have chosen leaders, but I did not know it. They have made false gods for themselves out of silver and gold, so they will be destroyed.  5 O Samaria, I will have nothing to do with the calf you worship. My anger burns against them! How long will it be before they are pure  6 in Israel? A workman made this calf, so it is not God. The calf of Samaria will be broken to pieces.  7 They plant the wind and they will gather the storm. The standing grain has no heads, and will give no food. If it were to give food, strangers would eat it.

8 "Israel is eaten up. They are now among the nations like a pot that is of no worth.  9 They have gone up to Assyria like a wild donkey all alone. Ephraim has hired lovers.  10 Even when they hire people among the nations to help them, I will now gather them together. And they will begin to waste away because the powerful king will make it hard for them.

11 "When Israel was a child, I loved him. And I called My son out of Egypt.  2 The more I called them, the more they went from Me. They kept giving gifts in worship to the Baals and burning special perfume to false gods.  3 Yet it was I who taught Ephraim to walk. I took them in My arms. But they did not know that I healed them.  4 I led them with ropes of human kindness, with ties of love. I lifted the load from their neck and went down to feed them.

8 "How can I give you up, O Ephraim? How can I give you up, O Israel? How can I make you like Admah? How can I make you like Zeboiim? My heart will not let Me do it. I love you very much.  9 I will not do anything in My burning anger. I will not destroy Ephraim again. For I am God and not man. I am the Holy One among you, and I will not come in anger. 10 They will follow the Lord, and He will make noise like a lion. Yes, He will make noise like a lion, and His children will come from the west shaking with fear.  11 They will come shaking like birds from Egypt, and like doves from the land of Assyria. And I will return them to their homes," says the Lord.


12 "The wrong-doing of Ephraim is being kept. His sin is being stored up.  13 The pains like a woman giving birth will come upon him, but he is not a wise son. He is not willing to be born.  14 I will pay the price to free them from the power of the grave. I will save them from death. O Death, where are your thorns? O Grave, where is your power to destroy?


Hosea's Last Words to Israel

14 Return to the Lord your God, O Israel, for you have fallen because of your sin.  2 Take words with you and return to the Lord. Say to Him, "Take away all sin, and receive us in kindness, that we may praise You with our lips.  3 Assyria will not save us. We will not ride on horses. And we will never say again, 'Our god,' to what we have made with our hands. For those who have no father find loving-kindness in You."

New Life for Israel

4 "I will bring My people back to Me. I will not hold back My love from them, for I am no longer angry with them.  5 I will be to Israel like the water on the grass in the early morning. He will grow like the lily, and have roots like the cedars of Lebanon.  6 His young branches will spread out and his beauty will be like the olive tree. His smell will be like the cedars of Lebanon.  7 Those who live in his shadow will grow like grain and like flowers of the vine. He will be known like the wine of Lebanon.

8 "O Ephraim, what have I to do with false gods? It is I Who answer and take care of you. I am like a green cypress tree. Your fruit comes from Me."

9 Whoever is wise, let him understand these things and know them. For the ways of the Lord are right, and those who are right and good will follow them, but sinners will not follow them.

--Hosea 8-14New Life Version (NLV)


There are pyramids on every continent of the world.

Wow Molly. Insightful stuff. Much to study.

[greg]

This all happened in London in 2012 when Prince William was 30-years old, the same age that the Messiah began His ministry.  It's been approximately 3.5 years since then, around the same time when the Messiah was crucified by the Romans.  What do you guys think?  Do you agree with Prince Charles that the English throne is worthy "of earthly worship"...

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[micah7:9]

This still just so amazing

[rosered]

 

  The Lord God has given  satan   the ability to walk up and down  to and fro  in the earth    [world ]

When you look at the world and all its pomp   ,  you have to ask , Where is God in all this  mess ??

That confusion  , because the world does not know God !!  no flesh and blood inherits God kingdom and we know the Kingdom of God is within you    ..

It is Spirit and Light and Life    of TRUTH ..

  1 John 3 1 John 4
3 See ywhat kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are.


The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. 2 Beloved, we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared;


but we know that when he appears    we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is.



3 And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure.


4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; jsin is lawlessness.

5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin.



6 No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; nno one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.

7 Little children, olet no one deceive you.

Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous.


8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning.

The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God.


10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.


Love One Another

11 For this is the message that you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.


12 We should not be like xCain, who was of the evil one and murdered his brother.

And why did he murder him? yBecause his own deeds were evil and his brother's righteous.

13 Do not be surprised, brothers,that the world hates you.


14 We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brothers. Whoever does not love abides in death.


15 b Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.


16 By this we know love, that he laid down his life for us, and ewe ought to lay down our lives for the brothers.


17 But fif anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet gcloses his heart against him, hhow does God's love abide in him?


18 Little children, let us not ilove in word or talk but in deed and in truth.



19 By this we shall know that we are of the truth and reassure our heart before him;


20 for whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything.


21 Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence before God;


22 and mwhatever we ask we receive from him, because we keep his commandments and do what pleases him.



23 And this is his commandment, that we believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us.


24 Whoever keeps his commandments abides in God,4 and God5 in him. And sby this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit whom he has given us.


  Simple truth  Love God first and foremost being obedient to His Word  [LOVE if lacking ask Him for it]     that is to love all and want what is best for them  , just as you are  in  the same  need and grace of God ....

  Jesus told us all to  pray for the    LORD OF HARVEST   to send out more  laborers of harvest    ...


  Matt  9 The Sheep and the Harvest
...37Then He said to His disciples, "The harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few. 38"Therefore beseech the Lord of the harvest to send out workers into His harvest."

    The abiding in death is   the world   not knowing   THE LOVE OF  GOD still hating one another ............

[micah7:9]

"When you look at the world and all its pomp   ,  you have to ask , Where is God in all this  mess ??" Rosered

Right smack at the head of all this mess.  :dsunny: Col. 1:16-17 :HeartThrob:

[eaglesway]

Yes. its almost like.......

I saw the Lord and He was chewing on His knockles saying- what am I gonna do about the Prince of Wales!!!!! What am I GONNA DO!

11For thus the LORD spoke to me with mighty power and instructed me not to walk in the way of this people, saying,

      12"You are not to say, 'It is a conspiracy!'
            In regard to all that this people call a conspiracy,
            And you are not to fear what they fear or be in dread of it.

      13"It is the LORD of hosts whom you should regard as holy.
            And He shall be your fear,
            And He shall be your dread.

      14"Then He shall become a sanctuary;
            But to both the houses of Israel, a stone to strike and a rock to stumble over,
            And a snare and a trap for the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

      15"Many will stumble over them,
            Then they will fall and be broken;
            They will even be snared and caught."

      16Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples. 17And I will wait for the LORD who is hiding His face from the house of Jacob; I will even look eagerly for Him. 18Behold, I and the children whom the LORD has given me are for signs and wonders in Israel from the LORD of hosts, who dwells on Mount Zion.


God is in control. :o)

[micah7:9]

 :goodpost: :happyclap: :dsunny:

[sheila]

  I received those very same versus..about 12-18 months ago..when I was on the internet reading all that kind of conspiracy stuff...

   there is so very very much of all that stuff..you can never figure out what the truth is.  IT IS A DISTRACTION FROM WHAT

  WE NEED TO BE CENTERED ON> HIM!!!            :girlheart:

   

[rosered]

"When you look at the world and all its pomp   ,  you have to ask , Where is God in all this  mess ??" Rosered

Right smack at the head of all this mess.  :dsunny: Col. 1:16-17 :HeartThrob:

That confusion  , because the world does not know God !!

  That is exactly what I am saying too ... as the scriptures testify     1 John 3 .

  Most assurdly GOD IS IN CONTROL   
  MOST have not  even begun to  live yet in the Spirit  and  those whom have begun and aged   died in the Lord   because the world hates them and crucifies them  Just as the did the LORD HIMSELF  !!      :dsunny:    :HeartThrob:

[eaglesway]

 :iagree:

Personally I believe we could have awhile to go. According to the Jewish calendar it is 5776 so if you subscribe to the 6000 year/6day theory(a thousand years is as a day)......none of us may see the end of the age.

In whatever generation we live, the beginning or the end, centering on Him is the ark of safety- not figuring out where the next anti-Christ is coming from.

[rosered]

:iagree:

Personally I believe we could have awhile to go. According to the Jewish calendar it is 5776 so if you subscribe to the 6000 year/6day theory(a thousand years is as a day)......none of us may see the end of the age.

In whatever generation we live, the beginning or the end, centering on Him is the ark of safety- not figuring out where the next anti-Christ is coming from.

  :iagree:  Exactly John !!!    :icon_flower:

       

[greg]

  I received those very same versus..about 12-18 months ago..when I was on the internet reading all that kind of conspiracy stuff...

   there is so very very much of all that stuff..you can never figure out what the truth is.  IT IS A DISTRACTION FROM WHAT

  WE NEED TO BE CENTERED ON> HIM!!!            :girlheart:

Okay, thanks for sharing.  I wasn't intending this thread, Sheila, to be a distraction.  It is posted in the sub-forum Book of Revelation... about 1/3 of that book deals with kings and war and demons and Satan and man-god blasphemies.  Matthew 24:4-5, "Yeshua answered and said to them, "Beware that no man will deceive you. For many will come in my name, and they will say. 'I AM THE LIVING GOD', The Messiah', and they will deceive many."

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I'm just trying to echo that admonition here, because the hard evidence shows the British crown is actively claiming "earthly worship" and actively seeking to connect their throne to Solomon through the occult - they are actively claiming the throne of Israel through British-Israelism for public consumption/belief.  And it is currently working on the public!  They have literally spent untold billion$ to make Prince William look like a 'king arthur' messiah figure.  And as things stand today, people of all different religious persuasions adore the man, even though the family's occult and Satanic connections can be traced through the British crown in the most harrowing manner: http://www.cainite.net/ 

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I think these findings may be useful to some students as they research Revelation.  If you think it's a distraction, okay, but please leave room for a little diversity among Christians who may feel otherwise as they study.

Also, remember the conclusion of my original post: "Take it all together, and William/Wales sure looks suspicious. But hey, these things are complex and we can still keep an open mind ... pray for William's salvation and comfort."

[greg]

Personally I believe we could have awhile to go. According to the Jewish calendar it is 5776 so if you subscribe to the 6000 year/6day theory(a thousand years is as a day)......none of us may see the end of the age.

In whatever generation we live, the beginning or the end, centering on Him is the ark of safety- not figuring out where the next anti-Christ is coming from.

The Messiah commanded us in Matthew 24 to watch and beware of false messiahs. Prince William is literally claiming the throne of David.  An entire worldwide propaganda campaign exists to convince people his family comes from the bloodline of Jesus.

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Tracking evidence here helps us ensure the reliability of history, and it also protects people from deception.   The Book of Revelation itself (in the message to Sardis) also considers 'watching' a valuable trait.

Figuring out where the next anti-christ is coming from is very useful to end-times study.  If you're correct as you wrote " I believe we could have awhile to go" then this evidence about the British Crown will be useful to people appreciating typologies, and also future researchers to track those typologies.  If you're incorrect, and these are the days of Rev 13, then the risks of not watching may be all the more imminent.  Accordingly, either way it is logical to be aware of this significant evidence if it is indeed significant.

[Molly]

14"Then He shall become a sanctuary;
            But to both the houses of Israel, a stone to strike and a rock to stumble over,
            And a snare and a trap for the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

      15"Many will stumble over them,
            Then they will fall and be broken;
            They will even be snared and caught."



The Messiah will be a rock to stumble over to both the House of Judah and the House of Israel.

The 12 tribes of Israel were split into two houses with two kings after King Solomon because of Solomon's sin.   They have never yet come together, as God promises they will again, and He is dealing with each house separately.

He separates and sets apart, sets apart, until he brings them together in a new way.

He is dealing with the house of Israel first, in the form of the Christian church.  We who were divorced by God will be the bride of Christ.  The Jews are still married to Him.

Jesus came the first time as Messiah ben Joseph.  He came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel, his bride, the descendants of Joseph, the double portioned ones of Ephraim and Manasseh, Jacob's half Gentile sons adopted by Jacob and given the birth right blessing and the name, Israel as their inheritance.

He will come the second time as Messiah ben David, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, to save the Jews, as Paul tells us in Romans chapter 11, and so all Israel will be saved!

The book from beginning to end is the greatest love story ever told for us literal readers.

It is easy to see where the house of Judah stumbled over the Messiah, but where are we, the Christian church, stumbling?   It's easier to see the spec in the other's eye.

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10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

11 Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.

--Hosea 1

[eaglesway]

The Messiah commanded us in Matthew 24 to watch and beware of false messiahs. Prince William is literally claiming the throne of David.  An entire worldwide propaganda campaign exists to convince people his family comes from the bloodline of Jesus.]The Messiah commanded us in Matthew 24 to watch and beware of false messiahs. Prince William is literally claiming the throne of David.  An entire worldwide propaganda campaign exists to convince people his family comes from the bloodline of Jesus.

Figuring out where the next anti-christ is coming from may be useful for studying eschatology on some level, but this site is for the promotion of the gospel of the Salvation of All and the Restoration of All Things. I am not trying to be critical of anyone's view- but we do want to maintain TM as a place where when people come to seek information about the salvation of all they are not seeing nothing but threads about peripheral issues. There are sites for the study eschatology and for dicussing and debating the traditional doctrinal issues upon which Christians most often speculate and discuss. This is not that site.

When issues are discussed it should be with a view to "an administration suitable to the fulness of times, the gathering together of all things into one in Christ, whether things in heavenor things on earth" (Eph 1).

We dont necessarily discourage discussions of other things- especcially from the standpoint of helping new Christians with their general understanding, but it is better to keep even those discussions centered in the manna and milk of spiritual growth and who our God and Father is, as well as who Jesus our Lord is.(the radiance of the Father's glory and exact representation of His nature Heb 1:1-3).

When I get on the home page and see that almost all the recent posts are on these tangental issues then I become concerned that we are not only not making progress in our true mission, we are working contrary to it by representing ourselves as "no different" than other Christian debate sites- of which there are so many- we are fooling ourselves and pursuing vanity if we think we can do those other things and also do a good job at what we are called to here.

Typically I would never make a statement like this but here goes......

We are workers in a particular field here. Bringing to light the glory of the Father's purpose in creation and His plan to bring all things into Himself in the final full redemption- to become ALL IN ALL. This is the gospel and I am a warrior for it. Dedicated. Undeterred. Refusing to be distracted and relentless(by the grace of God and His working in me through His Word and His Spirit) in the pursuit of that mission.

We try to be liberal and polite about it, but we will always come back to it- and I start making some noise when I feel we are getting away from it.

It is not personal, it is not me judging anyone's views. It is me being faithful to the stewardship and the opportunity to distribute the particular grace God has given us.

For just as we have many members in one body and all the members do not have the same function, 5 so we, who are many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another. 6 Since we have gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, each of us is to exercise them accordingly: if prophecy, according to the proportion of his faith; 7 if service, in his serving; or he who teaches, in his teaching; 8 or he who exhorts, in his exhortation; he who gives, with liberality; he who leads, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with cheerfulnes.(Rom 12)

Our function here is not to debate and discuss the same ol divisive stuff that clings to the church like a moldy fungus.

Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 And there are varieties of ministries, and the same Lord. 6 There are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all persons. 7 But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. 8 For to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit; 9 to another faith [d]by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, 10 and to another the effecting of miracles, and to another prophecy, and to another the distinguishing of spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, and to another the interpretation of tongues. 11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as He wills.(1 Cor 12)

I honestly believe there are people who have gifts in apologetics and delving into eschatology and rightly dividing general doctrine.... but those gifts are only useful here if they come back around to the purpose for which we are established, so it is not an invalidation of those gifts, but a focus on God-given function and purpose that I am explaining here.

We are in some danger of so watering down that message  with other stuff that we lose our relevance and miss the purpose for which the site is established.

[sheila]

 I'm sorry Greg....I spoke to my own delving in these things to the exclusion of more important things. I had not heard of this

particular issue of Prince William.  I will watch where it is concerned. I did not mean to speak of something you feel so passionately about

  and that may be your portion to share,as a mere distraction. It is just that I became distracted,like I said, awhile back..to where

  I spent hours and hours everyday reading about such things.    :friendstu:

[greg]

...

Figuring out where the next anti-christ is coming from may be useful for studying eschatology on some level, but this site is for the promotion of the gospel of the Salvation of All and the Restoration of All Things. I am not trying to be critical of anyone's view- but we do want to maintain TM as a place where when people come to seek information about the salvation of all they are not seeing nothing but threads about peripheral issues. There are sites for the study eschatology and for dicussing and debating the traditional doctrinal issues upon which Christians most often speculate and discuss. This is not that site.
...

We are in some danger of so watering down that message  with other stuff that we lose our relevance and miss the purpose for which the site is established.

I can appreciate that.  Please allow me to try to bring this full circle then to the topic you requested -- in my bible study of the oldest known copy on earth of the Aramaic Book of Revelation (called the Crawford Codex), I found a unique insight on the little horn's potential repentance and salvation...

In Revelation 17:10, the conventional translation is "And there are seven Kings; five have fallen and one is, and there is another not yet come, and when he comes, a little remaining time is given to him."

However, in the literal Aramaic text the expression translated "remaining" is actually lmkThru, which means "to be waiting" or "to be turning around" or "to be continuing".  This word therefore presents a fascinating possibility of turning/repentance for the seventh king.

[eaglesway]

Sure Greg. You are welcome to continue. I really wasnt singling you out, so I reposted that post on the Forum guidelines page as a focal point for all.

I have made similar posts on other threads as well.

[Shev]

I agree with John about keeping things on the UR track. One thing I will point out (though Greg and I already had our debate over this William thread) is that the description of this particular sub-forum is something along the lines of "a place to discuss the book of Revelation", and it does not mention UR in the heading (I think it is actually the only sub-forum description that does not refer to UR in some manner). Perhaps it can be amended to something more UR-explicit, like "a place to discuss Revelation in the light of UR"? That might clarify it more for new people joining, who might see the current description as an open invitation to focus on world events to the exclusion of UR? It might also make everyone more focused on drawing out UR from that worthy book.

[jabcat]

I agree with John about keeping things on the UR track. One thing I will point out (though Greg and I already had our debate over this William thread) is that the description of this particular sub-forum is something along the lines of "a place to discuss the book of Revelation", and it does not mention UR in the heading (I think it is actually the only sub-forum description that does not refer to UR in some manner). Perhaps it can be amended to something more UR-explicit, like "a place to discuss Revelation in the light of UR"? That might clarify it more for new people joining, who might see the current description as an open invitation to focus on world events to the exclusion of UR? It might also make everyone more focused on drawing out UR from that worthy book.

Done.   :thumbsup:

[jabcat]

I have found the things you posted interesting, greg.  We do have a forum issue with various images though as noted here earlier. 

http://tentmaker.org/forum/rules-and-faq/forum-maintenance-13500/msg191194/#msg191194

Unfortunately the settings of the forum will likely be further changed again (our tech person, Karen/Techelp is looking at things further) so the images may not be able to stay up.  We're waiting to hear from definitively from Gary.  Hopefully everything can be linked to your site so folks can go there to see them, with maybe a note describing what they should be looking for.  We'll see what happens in the next day or two.  Thanks.

[GodIsLove]

  I received those very same versus..about 12-18 months ago..when I was on the internet reading all that kind of conspiracy stuff...

   there is so very very much of all that stuff..you can never figure out what the truth is.  IT IS A DISTRACTION FROM WHAT

  WE NEED TO BE CENTERED ON> HIM!!!            :girlheart:

Sheila, I too periodically find myself wrapped up in conspiracy stuff, stuff that may be true but I could never determine if it was and that would drive me crazy too...I then regret the time wasted, because:

James 1:27:
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

And my am I guilty of not visiting the widows and orphans. And tending to the least of my brothers and sisters.

Greg, I see these images and am glad we all see what others are blind to. But dwelling on this stuff, for ME personally, is a distraction.

I like the "many hearts but all the body of Christ" verses, EW. There is a song with those verses that we used to sing at church and out of nowhere I have been humming it lately. I think it's a good one to meditate on when we get caught up in debating the peripherals.

Rose, thanks as always for your input :)

[sheila]

 :thumbsup:  it bought drove me crazy too!  :girlheart: