The Anti-christ

[Akira Takahashi]

By reading this thread, I feel like I'm being yanked out of the ground by my roots.  Deep stuff and great food for thought.  Right now, my roots are still groping for the ground they sat comfortably in for so many years, but I may have to relocate.

[Raggedy Anne]

The scriptures say that Jesus is to remain the the right hand of God until all His enemies are made His footstool ...... and says so seven times with the last time indicating that Jesus is waiting for us while the church has been sitting on their duff waiting for Him.

:cloud9: Which is probably why we were told to enter the throne room BOLDLY.....and yet most sit waiting to fly away......sad. Blessings.....

Awesome thoughts, Livelystone and Cardinal!  Profound.  I find that God continues to feed us profound thoughts daily, beyond all we ever imagined he would show us!   Do you know that the bible used to be nothing but death to me?  Wow!  I am amazed by the Spirit.

:girlheart:  Anne

[Cardinal]

By reading this thread, I feel like I'm being yanked out of the ground by my roots.  Deep stuff and great food for thought.  Right now, my roots are still groping for the ground they sat comfortably in for so many years, but I may have to relocate.

:cloud9: LOL, liked the way you phrased that.....relocate to your roots being in the sky drawing sustenance from it and not the earth, and you'll be an upside down tree, which is His intention. Blessings....

[fire walker]

Here is something on the "antichrist" from way back


  the church is a few cards short in their deck of understanding 
1. It was already the last day when John penned this.
2. The antichrist already existed in the world at the time this writing was first written.
   The church staying occupied by what they think is yet to come.

Peace and Blessings

Douglas
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Doug,

Good post, I've only put in quote the part about  the churches because until folks quit trusting and leaning on the traditions, rituals, ceremonies and doctrines preached from behind the pulpits in their churches they are not aware of anything beyond that.

True, the church sits on its duff waiting for Christ while Christ sets at the right hand of the Father waiting for the Church, also true there were already many anti- Christs in the world and the end times or the last days to put it more accurately were already here even while John was writing.

It is sad but true the church has been sitting on their pews believing and trusting all they hear from behind the pulpits in their churches and never see while in this false comfort anything beyond it save for those that have had a Damascus road experience that have been called out of traditionaly organized corporate religion.

Peace,
Fire Walker

[Nathan]

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By reading this thread, I feel like I'm being yanked out of the ground by my roots.  Deep stuff and great food for thought.  Right now, my roots are still groping for the ground they sat comfortably in for so many years, but I may have to relocate.

Hows about you let go of your earth all together, lift up your wings . . .and let the spirit teach you how to fly . . .with no strings of earth attached

[Akira Takahashi]

I believe the ribbon attaching my laptop's screen to the rest of it is perhaps loose, seeing as how there's a black bar down the center of it, so I can't read your entire post, nor can I seeall that I'm typing.  However, I think I've got the gist of what you're saying.

As they say, you have to crawl before you can walk, and that's what I'm working on.  My wings aren't strong enough to fly yet, so I'm still just learning how to flap!

[Akira Takahashi]

Just a quick question, but how does the Universalist mindset typically view the End Times?

[Livelystone]

What end times?

Is there a 2012 end as "maybe" the mayan calendar or a certain dark age mystic might be indicating....... or a denominational mindset on the end of the nations and a one world under Jesus Christ being ruled from a Temple in Israel?........ Not by me !!!

IMO unless there is a change in universal physical laws and/or how things exist today the world is not going to go anywhere soon....... although those changes could come to be I question how well they would fit into the scriptures of all things remaining the same and nothing new under the sun.

However IMO there will be a revolutionary change that comes to the minds of all mankind as to how they perceive God as well as spiritual laws and things such as the truth of spirit and soul.

Since the times that started at the end of the truth first being taught (when he who lets is taken out of the way) that initiated in the rise of the tail that still today sweeps a third part of the stars from their inheritance in heaven there have been more end time scenarios imagined then the broadband space here allows for to be posted.

People get visions and/or have NDE's but if they do not correspond to the truth as written in the Holy Word they need to be re-thought out as to either what they really imply or as to the source of their origin. I have never heard of anyone outside of the Apostles who experienced anything beyond the Great White Throne and have returned to share their knowledge with us.

Through my own experience that stopped at the GWT I think everyone will experience that resurrection immediately upon their death as we call it today........ Those wo go into the lake of fire are not going there to be destroyed or punished but to be purified until they too appear not just in name but as a Book of Life themselves.

However there is a resurrection that can be had in this life but that the fulness of is something that we have not yet seen on earth. Without that happening then God's Word that stated than man would come to be in both the image and likeness of Him (that can only be Jesus Christ as in many) again on earth will not be fulfilled...... and that is something I cannot accept.

My  :2c: that others may or may not agree with

Blessings

Doug

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9:  :thumbsup:

[Molly]

What end times?

Is there a 2012 end as "maybe" the mayan calendar or a certain dark age mystic might be indicating....... or a denominational mindset on the end of the nations and a one world under Jesus Christ being ruled from a Temple in Israel?........ Not by me !!!

IMO unless there is a change in universal physical laws and/or how things exist today the world is not going to go anywhere soon....... although those changes could come to be I question how well they would fit into the scriptures of all things remaining the same and nothing new under the sun.

However IMO there will be a revolutionary change that comes to the minds of all mankind as to how they perceive God as well as spiritual laws and things such as the truth of spirit and soul.

Since the times that started at the end of the truth first being taught (when he who lets is taken out of the way) that initiated in the rise of the tail that still today sweeps a third part of the stars from their inheritance in heaven there have been more end time scenarios imagined then the broadband space here allows for to be posted.

Oh, yes, we most certainly must be at the end of some age and the beginning of another.  Look at us--we will never meet in person but we think like some huge mind, loving God as one.

And, we do so at the speed of light.

The only thing that could be sweeter is when we learn to do this without the need for intervening machines and man made grids.

That, too, will happen.  How could it not?  It's been happening since the beginning.  Or how else could one man's three year ministry change the world?

The musterion anomia has tried to stop it for 2000 years and when that didn't work, pervert it beyond all recognition.   But, they have never succeeded and they never will.


44And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

--Dan 2

[Livelystone]

Hi Molly

When I said "mindset" I am referring first to those who are being placed where God will have them to be so at His chosen time the prophecy of Luke 6:1 will be fulfilled

Luk 6:1   And it came to pass on the second sabbath after the first, that he went through the corn fields; and his disciples plucked the ears of corn, and did eat, rubbing [them] in [their] hands.

Just as there was a foundation for the first Temple that Jesus was the cornerstone of so will IMO there be a second foundation for His newely built "third day Temple".

I have no doubts as to how I see you holding up many more just like you  :thumbsup:

Blessings

Doug

[CHB]

I also believe that He (Jesus/Yahshua) himself will appear along with all the saints that are IN CHRIST. I know some don't think that way....but I do. So many within the 'church system' are still looking for the singular Jesus...not the corporate one....

Finally, someone who sees this the way I do.   :happy3:

CHB

[Akira Takahashi]

I have more questions, but I need to be on a better computer to type them.