Lake of fire - will certain souls be destroyed?

[urdrwho]

Recently I found a site that was good at discussing the anti-trinity view that I've recently (after 70 years) adopted.  Yeah reading about a man made doctrine.
So I went to the guys ministry site and started listening to some other videos and saw multiple videos called myth-busters.  His first sermon was about why he feels eternal punishment is not valid in the bible.  Some reasons is because God is just, loves, etc. and eternal punishment goes against the "personality of God" (paraphrasing). He's a good scholar and reads greek and hebrew.  Ok, good sermon. 

Next video is given, same church, by a different pastor.  The second pastor was preaching how you won't go to heaven when you die, you'll be a sleep until Jesus wakes the dead.  Then there will be a second awakening and God will judge the people and there will be people sent to the lake of fire, destroyed forever. 

The first sermon taught about love, a just God, a God that doesn't want to torment souls the second sermon confused me because it seems that God's love ends and --- well souls get destroyed in the lake of fire.  Does that mean all the people who never heard of Jesus, all the Indians in the Rain Forest, all people who because of cultures never heard of Jesus?  That's a lot of souls to destroy.

What happened to the just, the love of God.  Destroyed for eternity because in your 70 years of being an adult on earth you may not have adopted a religious belief?  I used 70 years as adult because often you don't find faith as a little 8 year old kid and the average age of life is around 78 or so (not my age yet).    Revelation 20 talks of the lake of fire.  IMHO I agree with Martin Luther and Revelation should not have been in the Bible.  I'm about ready to became a full fledged Swedenborg guy because it seems that so many, many preach God loves his people but hey --- he's gonna eventually kill people.  This idea seems closer to the mythological greek gods than anything in the Bible.

Start looking at Greek mythology and --- whoa they had a God that also created a flood.
"Zeus, by pouring heavy rain from heaven, flooded the greater part of Greece, so that all men were destroyed, except a few who fled to the high mountains in the neighbourhood as Peloponnesus was overwhelmed. "

If anything makes me want to run from faith it is a forked tongue teaching such as God loves you - God will kill you.

I feel William Barclay is correct "God is not only King and Judge, God is Father - he is indeed Father more than anything else. No father could be happy while there were members of his family for ever in agony. No father would count it a triumph to obliterate the disobedient members of his family. The only triumph a father can know is to have all his family back home. The only victory love can enjoy is the day when its offer of love is answered by the return of love. The only possible final triumph is a universe loved by and in love with God."

[Song]

Recently I found a site that was good at discussing the anti-trinity view that I've recently (after 70 years) adopted.  eternal punishment goes against the "personality of God" (paraphrasing).

Next video is given, same church, by a different pastor.  The second pastor was preaching  there will be people sent to the lake of fire, destroyed forever. 
Revelation 20 talks of the lake of fire.  IMHO I agree with Martin Luther and Revelation should not have been in the Bible.   This idea seems closer to the mythological greek gods than anything in the Bible.

Start looking at Greek mythology and --- whoa they had a God that also created a flood.
"Zeus, by pouring heavy rain from heaven, flooded the greater part of Greece, so that all men were destroyed, except a few who fled to the high mountains in the neighbourhood as Peloponnesus was overwhelmed. "

I feel William Barclay is correct "God is not only King and Judge, God is Father."

Interesting my friend, thanks for sharing.

Hmmm... in terms of Trinity or Anti-Trinity view... personally for me my thoughts are summed up by this following post...
https://tentmaker.org/forum/humor-poems-songs-movies/trinity!/msg46010/#msg46010

It's an older running joke that the topic of the Trinity can generate a lot of discussion here on Tentmaker.  :laughing7: For me, I'm interested in researching either side

And absolutely it goes against God's personality, forever punishment, since He does not cast off forever. LAMENTATIONS 3:31-33

A shame that next pastor in the same church mentioned "destroyed forever" which I assume is Conditional Immortality aka Annihlationism. I used to have that false belief too, after I left ECT. Eventually, found Tentmaker and well... the rest is history ;)

In terms of Revelation... interesting. I have heard discussion talking about it's removal. Again, similar to the Trinity, I'm mostly just curious.  :Chinscratch:

And for that Zeus point, well we do know that Zeus appears in the Bible. So it's definitely possible that some Zeus worshipers could get some Biblical ideas and add it to their own stories I think!  :2c:

Acts 14:12 Barnabas they called Zeus, and Paul, Hermes, because he was the chief speaker.

And agreed, God is our Father. No parent would punish their child forever. Like what, 10 minute time out, 20 minute time out, a time out that lasts forever? That doesn't make sense! Therefore, eventually our "time out" here on Earth will end, for all people, and we will all believe in Christ with faith alone and be permanently saved.  :dsunny:

[AshaMithra]

Indeed, flood stories were popular back then, dating back to the Epic of Gilgamesh and Ziusudra (a Sumerian Noah). It?s certainly not limited to Greece, as it was popular in Babylon and Persia as well, along with other cultures.It?s even in Mazdayasna/Zoroastrianism, though framed differently. Ahura Mazda (The Wise Lord?God) warns King Yima that a fierce, cold winter is coming and advises for a certain set of humans and animals to hide in a cave of sorts The winter flood is basically started by Ahriman, the lord of darkness. As forward thinking this flood myth is compared to other myths, it still has a retrograde discrimination against certain people with disabilities and people who are physically imperfect (if you have any tooth decay, or are humpbacked, you?re not allowed in) (The Avesta, Vendidad, Fargard 2.46-93). Of course, this part of Zoroastrian scriptures (the Vendidad) were likely written after Zoroaster?s/Zarathustra?s time. Zoroastrianism is mostly universalist, so everyone gets saved in the end anyway (except Ahriman and the Daevas (demons) who were always pure evil.

http://www.melammu-project.eu/database/gen_html/a0000728.html