I saw the lake of fire

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Me too. I've got such a dry sense of humor and a deadpan delivery, so half the time they think I'm serious and get mad.  :icon_jokercolor:

So I quit joking around for the most part..... :sigh:

[Lazarus Short]

Yes, one person's humour is another person's insult.

[best Ahnold voice] "It's not a humah!"

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Sorry but I can't resist.... :offtopic:

Mine and my kid's all time favorite.....my ex-husband hated our cat, but our little boys loved it. Someone dumped her out as a kitten and you know what happened. They adopted her with much begging. They couldn't say Fluff right so she became "Furloof". So she had long hair, was a weird looking calico, with one side of her face black and the other orange.

So anyway; she always slept on the bed at our feet and he came in one night and threw her across the room for no reason. The next morning at 6am I'm in the kitchen fixing his breakfast, and I  hear him turning the air blue over the cat and I can't figure out what's got him so worked up already. I go in and he's holding the slacks to a suit he had laid on the chair that night before, to wear to work this particular morning, cussing a blue streak.

His navy blue slacks had a dinner size plate of cat hair all rubbed over it, like she had rolled around on them all night to get back at him for throwing her off the bed (she probably did), and he's yelling at me, "Just look at these! They've got hair all over this side!"

I said, deadpanning to save cat's life, "I KNOW honey, isn't it horrible? Just imagine how poor Furloof feels; she's LITERALLY covered with it!"

And I turned to go back into kitchen after seeing the dumbfounded look on his face. I heard him quietly laughing to himself as he got another pair of slacks on. He never said another word about it.

Carry on......blessings..... :winkgrin:

[guest5685]

 :thumbsup:

[darryl]

I saw the lake of fire. It was red and yellow (red and orange).. it was liquid.. spiritual liquid.. It was the fire of regret and remorse. I'm thinking our own measure of it could squash us like a bug. Imagine His carrying it all when He was upon that cross.

"..as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up" - John 3:14 (NKJ)
.."that the world through Him might be saved.." verse 17 (all)

"And the Lord said unto Moses, make thee a fiery serpent (Young's Literal - "a burning [serpent]") and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live." Numbers 21:8 (KJ) ..And Moses made a serpent of brass and put it on a pole.."

John 12:32, Jesus said, "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me."

("He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities." - Isaiah 53:11) ("the many" - Amplified Version)

I hadn't realized... did Jesus bear the lake of fire on His shoulders? when He was upon the cross? (and in the garden?)

don't know but thank God the Lake of Fire is the second death (Greek for 'second' is 'deuteros' = 2nd part) or the second part of death and ultimately will be abolished when it's no longer required. Praise God !. :banana: :banana: :banana:

[rosered]

I saw the lake of fire. It was red and yellow (red and orange).. it was liquid.. spiritual liquid.. It was the fire of regret and remorse. I'm thinking our own measure of it could squash us like a bug. Imagine His carrying it all when He was upon that cross.

"..as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up" - John 3:14 (NKJ)
.."that the world through Him might be saved.." verse 17 (all)

"And the Lord said unto Moses, make thee a fiery serpent (Young's Literal - "a burning [serpent]") and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live." Numbers 21:8 (KJ) ..And Moses made a serpent of brass and put it on a pole.."

John 12:32, Jesus said, "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me."

("He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities." - Isaiah 53:11) ("the many" - Amplified Version)

I hadn't realized... did Jesus bear the lake of fire on His shoulders? when He was upon the cross? (and in the garden?)

don't know but thank God the Lake of Fire is the second death (Greek for 'second' is 'deuteros' = 2nd part) or the second part of death and ultimately will be abolished when it's no longer required. Praise God !. :banana: :banana: :banana:

I do believe when we look at Jesus Christ as a man  we sure do wonder like that

  But if you look at Jesus Christ as the WORD OF   GOD    made flesh , you can  certainly see how all those   before   Him

and with Him and are going to be   ,   endured  and is  enduring    the fire
  Jesus said buy  of ME ,  the gold  tried in the fire   
  For me it is By the TRUTH  TRIED IN THE FIRE   , HE IS THE WAY TRUTH AND LIFE   ,,,  This is the truth  purified by the consuming fire of God Spirit   

I always wondered why Jesus said       Being the Lord / Master  of harvest   

Look out   in the fields  the heads are WHITE


    John 4 ...34Jesus said to them, "My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me and to accomplish His work. 35"Do you not say, 'There are yet four months, and then comes the harvest '?


Behold, I say to you, lift up your eyes and look on the fields, that they are white for harvest.


36"Already he who reaps is receiving wages and is gathering fruit for life eternal; so that he who sows and he who reaps may rejoice together....


When we  look at Jesus / WORD OF GOD    we can see that    those of old   sowing  seed and   harvesters of the field bore the heat of the day    ,     and it was Hot with judgment    and turns one white   , when you  take the ashes from something  burned up with great heat    you get  white  ashes

as these  also

Matt 6 ...29yet I say to you that not even Solomon in all his glory clothed himself like one of these.

30"But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which is alive today and tomorrow is thrown into the furnace, will He not much more clothe you? You of little faith! 31"Do not worry then, saying, 'What will we eat?' or 'What will we drink?' or 'What will we wear for clothing?'...
 

I can see the struggle and suffering   from the beginning as the days of old  as   GODS WORD  being fulfilled    , the furnace of affliction and the trials of our faith

we are no different  than they  were  under the law   , till Christ comes ,and  that anointing  making all things new and alive .
Israel's Stubbornness  Isaiah   
...9"For the sake of My name I delay My wrath,

And for My praise I restrain it for you, In order not to cut you off.


10"Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tested you in the furnace of affliction.


11"For My own sake, for My own sake, I will act; For how can My name be profaned? And My glory I will not give to another.


  Those of  old and long  standing bore the heat of the day ...  JESUS SAID ,  THE IS THE WORD OF GOD PROCEEDING OUT OF HIS MOUTH ,   JESUS never spoke of his own  thoughts, words  only  the FATHERS voice .

Matt 20  parable    The Parable of the Vineyard Workers

...11"When they received it, they grumbled at the landowner,



12saying, 'These last men have worked only one hour, and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden and the scorching heat of the day.'


13"But he answered and said to one of them, 'Friend, I am doing you no wrong; did you not agree with me for a denarius?...[SAME WAGE ]


      the 1st son   , whom   said  no  , but repented  and did as commanded   bearing the Word and heat of the day [  all the law and prophets]

  and those  whom said they would DID  not!   are those religious leaders of Israel


   TWO SONS ONE Matthew 21:28-32New American Standard Bible (NASB)

Parable of Two Sons
28 "But what do you think? A man had two sons, and he came to the first and said,

Son, go work today in the vineyard.' 29 And he answered, 'I will not'; but afterward he regretted it and went.


30 The man came to the second and said the same thing; and he answered, 'I will, sir'; but he did not go.


31 Which of the two did the will of his father?" They *said, "The first." Jesus *said to them, "Truly I say to you that the tax collectors and prostitutes will get into the kingdom of God before you.

32 For John came to you in the way of righteousness and you did not believe him;

but the tax collectors and prostitutes did believe him; and you, seeing this, did not even feel remorse afterward so as to believe him.

   John the baptist      symbolizes all    those    sent   , beaten  killed and   suffered great resistance against the WORD OF GOD , that anointing,  spoken in them  to   Israel   from the beginning   , even when Cain slew Abel    , same blood shed


Heat of the DAY  ,  that day  and that time   the righteous abel     Luke 11 , Hebrews 11

Woes to Pharisees and Experts in Law


...50so that the blood of all the prophets, shed since the foundation of the world, may be charged against this generation,

51from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the house of God;


yes, I tell you, it shall be charged against this generation.'


52"Woe to you lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge; you yourselves did not enter, and you hindered those who were entering."...

   These Are  those whom    THE HEAT IS the lake of fire  is reserved  and anyone like them ,  in my understanding as of now ...   as they Judged so shall they BE JUDGED  IN RIGHTEOUSNESS      humbling   them   as to white hot ash  and purified in the fire

Daniel 11 The Tyranny of the Western King


...34"Now when they fall they will be granted a little help, and many will join with them in hypocrisy.


35"Some of those who have insight will fall, in order to refine, purge and make them pure until the end time;

because it is still to come at the appointed time.

36"Then the king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will speak monstrous things against the God of gods;


and he will prosper until the indignation is finished, for that which is decreed will be done........

All is foretelling as prophecy is being fulfilled      BY THE HOLY WORD AND SPIRIT OF GOD    ...  :HeartThrob:

[jugghead]

For me ..... the Lake of Fire "IS" the Baptism of Fire ..... the Baptism of the Holy Spirit ..... the purification process ..... the testing by fire (a touchstone)

It is why the second death (second part) of death has no power over those who have already gone through it ..... already received it

the first part of death is the death of the nature (death of the Adam nature) which is also the first part of resurrection, because it has to die in order for it to be resurrected ..... so we are talking about the soul, the death of the old soul ..... which we know to be soul for soul ..... or IOW life for life

the first part of resurrection now being the death of the Adam nature now in turn brings about the inheritance ..... the giving of life ..... and when we understand that they are one in the same, we come to understand that the giving (increase) of life is the death (decrease) of death .... which we know Christ did on the cross ..... He put death to death

It is the finished work of Christ in us ..... His physical example is what we will all participate in spiritually ...... if not on this side of Jordan it will take place on the other side ..... and by the glory of God, all will be saved, all will be baptized in fire and when all, there will no longer be a need for it for "it is accomplished" what the Father started to do from the beginning ..... that being to have all of mankind baptized in fire

my  :2c:

[marie glen]

..you know I was thinking about ashes just this morning when I cleaned some out of our woodstove.. how fine and soft they are and like you said when burned the most intensely they end up like white powder..

Revelation 20:6 (niv)
Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
   (  :banana: :cloud9: )


Revelation 20:14 (niv)
Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

Concordant Literal Version - Revelation 21:8
Yet the timid, and unbelievers, and the abominable, and murderers, and paramours, and enchanters, and idolaters, and all the false--their part is in the lake burning with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.

Revelation 2:11 (niv)
Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who is victorious will not be hurt at all by the second death.
Young's Literal Translation
He who is having an ear -- let him hear what the Spirit saith to the assemblies: He who is overcoming may not be injured of the second death.

John 4 …34Jesus said to them, "My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me and to accomplish His work.

                              lift up your eyes and look on the fields, that they are white for harvest.

I wonder if today He would see His sheep as being scattered.. in this day of "war with the saints" which of course has always been.. "will tire out the saints.."

who are scattered about as sheep with no shepherd..

..whereas the sheep should be fully armored and armed.. I am just now wondering if UR could be the lock for that armor..

because faith / truth burns so brightly and UR really fans those flames! Faith becomes nailed down more than ever.

..with the armor on and firmly in place, the darts and arrows of the accuser who accuses night and day, and the arrows of mankind's so-called authorities.. both of ET and also of man's newest religion, a-theism - taught and proclaimed as truth and proven when it is so world's away from that.. but so maNy do not know that.. it's a big sword of the enemy-untruth-babble. The darts (of the, imo, false prophet) instead of sticking into the sides of the sheep and troubling them.. that large covering shield of faith intact and solid deflects the darts and they fall to the ground bent and broken.

..And of course(!) the sheep need the mighty sWord of the Spirit.. that shiny two edged sword which is truth.. all truth and nothing but..

But how can they have the sword when they are carrying the heavy burden of ET on their backs?

...oops gotta run for a bit.. back to read more.. (thanks! top a' the mornin' to ya! :))

[jugghead]

The understanding of His Word is: that which manifests what has always been

[rosered]

WOWZA!!  :banana:  AWESOME  , both of you brought up some great   things !!   Thanks be to God   :HeartThrob: :dsunny:

[marie glen]

bore the heat of the day... the furnace of affliction and the trials of our faith

amen ..always darkness tries to douse the light.. applying pressure... even since the blood of Abel! as you said..

      The Parable of the Vineyard Workers.. Son, go work today in the vineyard.' 29 And he answered, 'I will not'; but afterward he regretted it and went.

30 The man came to the second and said the same thing; and he answered, 'I will, sir'; but he did not go.

52"Woe to you lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge; you yourselves did not enter, and you hindered those who were entering."...

Amen! which was Jesus! "my yoke is easy, my burden light.." not heavy :smile: not hard to grasp! "easy to be entreated" ..easy to be understood.. not too lofty and high for mere mortals.. always humans want to be the authority.. the special ones.. the pharisees to their mind were 'in' and every one else was out.. and beneath them.. hypocrites! professing themselves to be wise they became fools.. "you stand in the door, not only do you not enter, but you block the door so no one else can enter!" ..blind leaders of the blind.. woe unto you.. (I don't think I'd like to be someone who has made a profit off the Word.. or who has blocked the door, preventing sheep from entering, when Jesus returns with His angels and in flaming fire)

Daniel 11 The Tyranny of the Western King

...34"Now when they fall they will be granted a little help, and many will join with them in hypocrisy.

36"Then the king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will speak monstrous things against the God of gods;

and he will prosper until the indignation is finished

...the great falling away... mankind has declared theirself to be 'god' (the higher/highest power, deciding good and evil - theory of evil-ution (sp? :laughing7: ) man has sat upon the throne telling himself that he is god.. professing themselves to be wise they became fools.. became monkeys.. strong delusion.. the removal of "he who hinders"... removal of the voice/free speech, of he who hinder's ... (coming up? trending...)

for that which is decreed will be done........

all utnruth/babble can only consume away.. imo, the matter will be fully resolved / proven "the smoke of the destruction" the "great fall of it" like smoke will rise up "for ever and ever" in all in heaven and earth's memory... deeply engraven upon every heart, mind and psyche that HE is. Life.

All is foretelling as prophecy is being fulfilled      BY THE HOLY WORD AND SPIRIT OF GOD    ...  :HeartThrob:

    :dsunny: You are on fire Rosie! (do you mind if i sometimes call you Rosie.. I keep thinking of you that way! ..jus tell me to knock it off if you hate being called Rosie! :faint: :laughing7: )

..on fire! in a good way that is..

[marie glen]

For me ..... the Lake of Fire "IS" the Baptism of Fire ..... the Baptism of the Holy Spirit ..... the purification process ..... the testing by fire (a touchstone)

It is why the second death (second part) of death has no power over those who have already gone through it ..... already received it

the first part of death is the death of the nature (death of the Adam nature) which is also the first part of resurrection, because it has to die in order for it to be resurrected ..... so we are talking about the soul, the death of the old soul ..... which we know to be soul for soul ..... or IOW life for life

the first part of resurrection now being the death of the Adam nature

... :Chinscratch: hmmm, perhaps that is one reason He has patterned it as He has.. with a 1st resurrection and "the rest of the dead come not back to life until after the 1000 years" millennium of Jesus (rev20:4,5)

the Adam, not yet perfected nature.. the Adam nature prone to error because there's been no baptism of fire.. no thorough proving.. thorough burning away of all potential babble-untruth-dross... All will be SEALED(?) in, and on, heart and mind/forehead - sealed - stamped - sign of ownership.. approval
You guys are really making me think this morning.... thanks! :thumbsup: :dsunny:

now in turn brings about the inheritance ..... the giving of life ..... and when we understand that they are one in the same, we come to understand that the giving (increase) of life is the death (decrease) of death .... which we know Christ did on the cross ..... He put death to death

     :thumbsup: :thumbsup: He did! "put to death, death" amen, love that turn of words!

It is the finished work of Christ in us ..... His physical example is what we will all participate in spiritually ...... if not on this side of Jordan it will take place on the other side ..... and by the glory of God, all will be saved, all will be baptized in fire and when all, there will no longer be a need for it for "it is accomplished" what the Father started to do from the beginning ..... that being to have all of mankind baptized in fire

my  :2c:

     :thumbsup: :iagree:  :goodpost:

[2KnowHim]

No matter what the fire burns up, and if there be nothing but ashes left,.....Look at what He promises us.

Isa_61:3  To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified.

[Cardinal]

For me ..... the Lake of Fire "IS" the Baptism of Fire ..... the Baptism of the Holy Spirit ..... the purification process ..... the testing by fire (a touchstone)

It is why the second death (second part) of death has no power over those who have already gone through it ..... already received it

the first part of death is the death of the nature (death of the Adam nature) which is also the first part of resurrection, because it has to die in order for it to be resurrected ..... so we are talking about the soul, the death of the old soul ..... which we know to be soul for soul ..... or IOW life for life

the first part of resurrection now being the death of the Adam nature now in turn brings about the inheritance ..... the giving of life ..... and when we understand that they are one in the same, we come to understand that the giving (increase) of life is the death (decrease) of death .... which we know Christ did on the cross ..... He put death to death

It is the finished work of Christ in us ..... His physical example is what we will all participate in spiritually ...... if not on this side of Jordan it will take place on the other side ..... and by the glory of God, all will be saved, all will be baptized in fire and when all, there will no longer be a need for it for "it is accomplished" what the Father started to do from the beginning ..... that being to have all of mankind baptized in fire

my  :2c:

:cloud9: I received something similar just different wording.....first resurrection comes after laying down of our life, and is the re-union of the soul and spirit. Good thoughts this morning, guys, as always.... :thumbsup:

[2KnowHim]

"Marie said"... :Chinscratch: hmmm, perhaps that is one reason He has patterned it as He has.. with a 1st resurrection and "the rest of the dead come not back to life until after the 1000 years" millennium of Jesus (rev20:4,5)

Could the 1,000 yr. Reign of Christ be "over" the Adam nature?.....After all Adam's life span only consisted of one day,.....which is as a 1,000 yrs. :Chinscratch:

[sheila]

well...He is our PASS OVER

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Spirit Seed Son IS the 7th day of no part darkness. Not because there is no darkness, but because it is covered over just like the mercy seat had a cover, else the death contained would be loosed. Same pattern shown on the mount. Where did Moses/law and Elijah/prophet go? Into the "new" ark of the covenant. It's not so much about time as it is about identity and relationship.

Probably few want to hear this part, but the darkness once submitted to the Seed Son in us, causes us no harm and is His servant in us, ready to bring judgment to the flesh of those who were not "killed" yet as we were (those of every tribe, kindred under the altar-only thing under there is our ashes, a sweet smelling savor unto the Lord) to consume it, not to destroy them. The darkness is a footstool, we're the feet company getting ready to walk Him around. Does not any good footstool elevate the feet? My  :2c: Blessings... :HeartThrob:

[marie glen]

"Marie said"... :Chinscratch: hmmm, perhaps that is one reason He has patterned it as He has.. with a 1st resurrection and "the rest of the dead come not back to life until after the 1000 years" millennium of Jesus (rev20:4,5)

Could the 1,000 yr. Reign of Christ be "over" the Adam nature?.....After all Adam's life span only consisted of one day,.....which is as a 1,000 yrs. :Chinscratch:

I think both Genesis and Revelation have keys to all the rest of the scriptures/Bible. I haven't followed through on researching that yet..

Hard for mortals to imagine living a thousand years (like Adam did!)

I sometimes wonder how long it will seem between the two resurrections.. the 1st at the end of this age when Jesus returns.. and the 2nd a thousand years later of all those not yet saved.. as they say.

I have a staunch atheist brother.. tho deep down I know he 'believes..' but it's possible I may not see him for a space of a thousand years.. And he is so nice! And smart! ..I can't wait for the day I see Him on fire for Jesus..

You know what? I think there will always be God's Word.. the Bible just the way it is now. Forever. The seal of God on the forehead.

...a thousand years.. to Him, of course :laughing7: it seems like less than a day.. I'll sure miss my bro tho if he's not there.. and his wife..

..blessings! It's nice to see that a regular has come back to 'the tent'! (to steal another's words!) :hiya: :hiya:

[rosered]

bore the heat of the day... the furnace of affliction and the trials of our faith

amen ..always darkness tries to douse the light.. applying pressure... even since the blood of Abel! as you said..

      The Parable of the Vineyard Workers.. Son, go work today in the vineyard.' 29 And he answered, 'I will not'; but afterward he regretted it and went.

30 The man came to the second and said the same thing; and he answered, 'I will, sir'; but he did not go.

52"Woe to you lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge; you yourselves did not enter, and you hindered those who were entering."...

Amen! which was Jesus! "my yoke is easy, my burden light.." not heavy :smile: not hard to grasp! "easy to be entreated" ..easy to be understood.. not too lofty and high for mere mortals.. always humans want to be the authority.. the special ones.. the pharisees to their mind were 'in' and every one else was out.. and beneath them.. hypocrites! professing themselves to be wise they became fools.. "you stand in the door, not only do you not enter, but you block the door so no one else can enter!" ..blind leaders of the blind.. woe unto you.. (I don't think I'd like to be someone who has made a profit off the Word.. or who has blocked the door, preventing sheep from entering, when Jesus returns with His angels and in flaming fire)

Daniel 11 The Tyranny of the Western King

...34"Now when they fall they will be granted a little help, and many will join with them in hypocrisy.

36"Then the king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will speak monstrous things against the God of gods;

and he will prosper until the indignation is finished

...the great falling away... mankind has declared theirself to be 'god' (the higher/highest power, deciding good and evil - theory of evil-ution (sp? :laughing7: ) man has sat upon the throne telling himself that he is god.. professing themselves to be wise they became fools.. became monkeys.. strong delusion.. the removal of "he who hinders"... removal of the voice/free speech, of he who hinder's ... (coming up? trending...)

for that which is decreed will be done........

all utnruth/babble can only consume away.. imo, the matter will be fully resolved / proven "the smoke of the destruction" the "great fall of it" like smoke will rise up "for ever and ever" in all in heaven and earth's memory... deeply engraven upon every heart, mind and psyche that HE is. Life.

All is foretelling as prophecy is being fulfilled      BY THE HOLY WORD AND SPIRIT OF GOD    ...  :HeartThrob:

    :dsunny: You are on fire Rosie! (do you mind if i sometimes call you Rosie.. I keep thinking of you that way! ..jus tell me to knock it off if you hate being called Rosie! :faint: :laughing7: )

..on fire! in a good way that is..

  Hi Sister Marie!!
,
  Sure can call me Rosie , my hubs  does affectionately  at times , and my sister  Pammie  did ,, all   my   youth  to  growing up  and her departing ..

I see this as kindness and    the ''brotherly love ''     the Lord Jesus spoke to Peter   , the  philo love and agape  love    in His  ''feed my lambs and sheep '' instructions  after satan had finished  sifting him as  wheat and he got turned around on the right   path  ..

  I find that odd because  Jesus was the one with the winnow fan  /fork  in His hand  and thoroughly  purge  his   thrashing   floor      with Holy Spirit and fire separating the wheat and chaff   in  everyone receiving the Holy Spirit and fire  baptism ,'' to be dipped into '', even Peter   hummm ?

   Matt 3

11"As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I,

and I am not fit to remove His sandals;

He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.


12"His winnowing fork is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clear His threshing floor;

and He will gather His wheat into the barn, but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."

  Sounds like the Judgment seat of Christ to me  in the here and now  , separating the  sheep and goats  and wheat and chaff  and  pruning  branches  ,  evil   or useless  from the good etc  , for Gods purpose  and use .
 

I wrote this long post and it was     maybe too much  , so  ,,,  I sure think you been on fire  as of late  in a good way ...   

Enjoying the fellowship    with one another and thanking God for  His mercy .

I Love the fire of God    with  warmth and   flow   of the spiritual connection ...

It sure does let us the know the Father is dealing with us all    and the Holy Spirit moving  words of  life into all us  vessels   , with new minds  and  like a  new  world with''' all things   with    possibilities''                :HeartThrob:

[marie glen]

Great verses Rose!! :cloud9: :cloud9: ..and thoughts..

..and I just knew you have been affectionately called "Rosie"! (by our Lord too.. I'm thinking :HeartThrob: )

[CHB]

was just reading through the posts and some gave their thoughts on the "second death". My thoughts are that there are two births, one of flesh one of spirit. I also believe there are two deaths, one flesh one spiritual. What I mean is, everyone dies a physical death, the first death. Everyone will have to die a spiritual death. Or as it says in (Col. 5:10) "And have put on the new man".  (Rom.6:2-10) Talks about being dead to sin and being buried with Christ. Verse 11 "Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord".  (Col. 3:3) "For ye are dead and your life is hid with Christ in God". I am thinking this is the second death. I am also wondering if this second death and the lake of fire isn't just for Israel?

CHB

[Eduard]

was just reading through the posts and some gave their thoughts on the "second death". My thoughts are that there are two births, one of flesh one of spirit. I also believe there are two deaths, one flesh one spiritual. What I mean is, everyone dies a physical death, the first death. Everyone will have to die a spiritual death. Or as it says in (Col. 5:10) "And have put on the new man".  (Rom.6:2-10) Talks about being dead to sin and being buried with Christ. Verse 11 "Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord".  (Col. 3:3) "For ye are dead and your life is hid with Christ in God". I am thinking this is the second death. I am also wondering if this second death and the lake of fire isn't just for Israel?

CHB

A great interpretation that makes me think more.  :thumbsup:

[jugghead]

I am thinking this is the second death. I am also wondering if this second death and the lake of fire isn't just for Israel?
CHB

Would this not make God a respecter of persons, not treating everyone the same?

Just asking, not implying anything

[sheila]

not if you reckon it as All men in Adam[son of God] is Israel,,and the spirit of life died when sin entered

  [ye have no life in yourselves/I am the resurrection[ thus all in Adam have died spiritually and physically]

  it is appointed unto all men to die once..then the judgement[as all men have bore the image of the corrupt/so

too,shall all men bear the image of the incorrupt]

  image of the corrupt spirit=likeness of satan/unclean spirits/slanderer of God/liar/theif/murderous spirit

  this one is the son of perdition.

   How can any man be harmed in the LOF if all that is destroyed is unclean spirits/evil spirits/demons....

/wood/hay stubble tares. and death....all the things that defile man?   who would be harmed from the

removal of these things....? why it would be a Blessing..and surely the man who has had such things

removed from him would truly inherit the Kingdom prepared for them before the founding of the world.

  the only that has it's end/loss... is corruption,sin/death/evil/slanders/malice/hatred/theiving etc.

  make the tree good/or make the tree evil..for the mixing is only death unto us...........


  the TOL has no death in it..it is the perfect...the perfect image and likeness of God..it is in the image

and likeness of Christ..sinless flesh/oneness and love with the Father..it always does what pleases the Father

it is never tempted of evil..it can not practice sin..it practices what it preaches..obedience unto death

mercy,love,long-suffering/righteousness,holiness,joy and adoration of Our Father..it delights in His goodness

and loves to dwell with Him in humbleness. Every man is going to have that!!He is our inheritance..and we

are His!!!!!!!  there will be no 'sins law' operating in your flesh so that..the good you desire to do,you do not

do..or evil being present with you......No more..when the sons of God come in to present themselves

unto the Father..satan also entered in 'among' them.

  the adversary totally overcome in every way..no more tears..nor death,pain.........we will leave all that

behind...Because He is our Father..He loves us..He delivers us..for we belong to Him..and He is ours.

[marie glen]

..this is from Revelation chapter 20 -- chapter 19.. the armies gathered for armegeddon around Israel which were consumed by fire.. For "He comes with His angels and with fire" but the fire is of man's own doings.. (imo after much study and prayer:)

Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years;

3 and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. [Of believers - "we shall reign with Him 1000 years" "as spiritual priests unto God" .."they shall build the waste places"..]

7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations..

And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the (world) beast/body(imo) and the false prophet(/teaching) are. (Institutions of mankind which were active at the time of Jesus' return, imo)

11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. [Judgment 'Day']

14 Then ...anyone not found written in the Book of Life (believing?) was cast into the lake of fire.

..........Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

God bless! :smile: