I saw the lake of fire

[guest5685]

If most ETers thought about it, they'd probably find that most of their honest and heartfelt repentance experiences came out of a kind of torment and were reaching for help.

Yep! :thumbsup: (er, amen!!) ...and, et, implies, to me, a need for quite a bit more "thinking"! :faint:

When you share God's Love and revelation of UR with the legalistic religious they often recoil because those truths burn like fire on their pet ET doctrine's. That is a torment in their mind - that struggle to hold onto the lie of ET as opposed to the Truth. That is what I see and I see that LOF just as a torment to the scoffer and un-beliver. He saves His Wrath for His Enemies and I see not people but the Lies They Believe Contrary To Truth as His Enemies.

[sheila]

[Daniel 8;10] our time....a fiery stream issued and came forth from before Him....the judgement was set and the books were opened....

   He baptizes with Holy spirit and fire.  the water of the word..cleanses....the blood cleanses...the holy spirit cleanses/sanctifies

  and the fire cleanses.     It is all a work of His spirit......seeing the fire/work portion of His Holy spirit pertains to judgement...

  and God's judgements being revealed in the earth...His opening the scriptures unto us..the final cleansing and offering on the altar

  that is pleasing aroma unto Him.   we are in the time Daniel prophesied about.

   fiery coals on the lips..for those of unclean speech=our testimony that is in part..coming to a greater fullness of Him.....

  we have putting forth tender leaves.....buds....flowers and then full ripe fruit.

    this is more about the sanctifying work of the Holy spirit[which overcomes the last enemy death] in His people..and is part

  even the final part of His sanctification....a seeing face to face...yes..your eyes will be fire...and you will be a flame......

       in Enoch  with the twinkling of His eye......the delightful nature is given......and Enoch become as one of His glorious ones....

      water softer than water fire hotter then lightening[as lightening east to west] and harder then rock..as electrum......

  when the elements[al] things melt[why do you say taste not touch not etc]

   no weapon formed against you will succeed because the Lord God is your maker. we are in the time where no-one will be seeing through

a glass darkly..and you will know what you are....and the whole earth that has been groaning for the revealing of the sons of God

shall rejoice.

   Yes! Baby you are a fire work!   [who can dwell with continual burnings]

[marie glen]

If most ETers thought about it, they'd probably find that most of their honest and heartfelt repentance experiences came out of a kind of torment and were reaching for help.

Yep! :thumbsup: (er, amen!!) ...and, et, implies, to me, a need for quite a bit more "thinking"! :faint:

When you share God's Love and revelation of UR with the legalistic religious they often recoil because those truths burn like fire on their pet ET doctrine's. That is a torment in their mind - that struggle to hold onto the lie of ET as opposed to the Truth. That is what I see and I see that LOF just as a torment to the scoffer and un-beliver. He saves His Wrath for His Enemies and I see not people but the Lies They Believe Contrary To Truth as His Enemies.

   :thumbsup: :thumbsup: I think you are right about that Bob! :thumbsup:

[marie glen]

Amen, Sheila! ..and reminded me of "tongues of fire" resting upon the brethren on Day of Pentecost...

[Seth]

Since Jesus said that his death is the judgement of the world, I actually think that the Cross and the LOF are unified in purpose, the death of sinfulness through repentance.

[rosered]

Since Jesus said that his death is the judgement of the world, I actually think that the Cross and the LOF are unified in purpose, the death of sinfulness through repentance.

  Yes it sure is ..  the Cross of Jesus Christ is the  pivotal point  and  promise to set the world on fire and it is  metaphorically /spiritually speaking   


      last   chapter of  Malachi 4 in old testament on what John the baptist  represents "repentance " the kingdom of heaven is at hand ,  coming in power [ CROSS]


   Malachi 4 (NASB)

Final Admonition
4 "[a]For behold, the day is coming, (A)burning like a furnace; and all the arrogant and every evildoer will be (B)chaff; and the day that is coming will (C)set them ablaze," says the Lord of hosts, "so that it will leave them neither root nor branch."

2 "But for you who fear My name, the sun of righteousness will rise with (healing in its wings; and you will go forth and (F)skip about like calves from the stall. 3 You will tread down the wicked, for they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day which I am preparing," says the Lord of hosts.

4 "Remember the law of Moses My servant, even the statutes and ordinances which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel.

5 "Behold, I am going to send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the Lord. 6 He will  restore the hearts of the fathers to their children and the hearts of the children to their fathers, so that I will not come and smite the land with a curse."


  THE SCROLL  and the   curse is     Zech 5(NASB)

The Flying Scroll
5 Then I lifted up my eyes again and looked, and behold, there was a flying scroll. 2 And he said to me, "What do you see?" And I answered, "I see a flying scroll; its length is twenty cubits and its width ten cubits." 3 Then he said to me,


"This is the curse that is going forth over the face of the whole land; surely everyone who steals will be purged away according to the writing on one side, and everyone who swears will be purged away according to the writing on the other side.


4 I will make it go forth," declares the Lord of hosts, "and it will enter the house of the thief and the house of the one who swears falsely by My name; and it will spend the night within that house and consume it with its timber and stones."
[/u]

  God is a consuming fire  of love  .... what rises up out of the ashes Beauty  for ashes


   Isaiah 612To proclaim the favorable year of the LORD And the day of vengeance of our God;

To comfort all who mourn, 3To grant those who mourn in Zion, Giving them a garland instead of ashes,


The oil of gladness instead of mourning, The mantle of praise instead of a spirit of fainting.


So they will be called oaks of righteousness, The planting of the LORD, that He may be glorified.


4Then they will rebuild the ancient ruins, They will raise up the former devastations;


And they will repair the ruined cities, The desolations of many generations....

[guest5685]

[Daniel 8;10] our time....a fiery stream issued and came forth from before Him....the judgement was set and the books were opened....

   He baptizes with Holy spirit and fire.  the water of the word..cleanses....the blood cleanses...the holy spirit cleanses/sanctifies

  and the fire cleanses.     It is all a work of His spirit......seeing the fire/work portion of His Holy spirit pertains to judgement...

  and God's judgements being revealed in the earth...His opening the scriptures unto us..the final cleansing and offering on the altar

  that is pleasing aroma unto Him.   we are in the time Daniel prophesied about.

   fiery coals on the lips..for those of unclean speech=our testimony that is in part..coming to a greater fullness of Him.....

  we have putting forth tender leaves.....buds....flowers and then full ripe fruit.

    this is more about the sanctifying work of the Holy spirit[which overcomes the last enemy death] in His people..and is part

  even the final part of His sanctification....a seeing face to face...yes..your eyes will be fire...and you will be a flame......

       in Enoch  with the twinkling of His eye......the delightful nature is given......and Enoch become as one of His glorious ones....

      water softer than water fire hotter then lightening[as lightening east to west] and harder then rock..as electrum......

  when the elements[al] things melt[why do you say taste not touch not etc]

   no weapon formed against you will succeed because the Lord God is your maker. we are in the time where no-one will be seeing through

a glass darkly..and you will know what you are....and the whole earth that has been groaning for the revealing of the sons of God

shall rejoice.

   Yes! Baby you are a fire work!   [who can dwell with continual burnings]

Love It!  :thumbsup:

[rosered]

[Daniel 8;10] our time....a fiery stream issued and came forth from before Him....the judgement was set and the books were opened....

   He baptizes with Holy spirit and fire.  the water of the word..cleanses....the blood cleanses...the holy spirit cleanses/sanctifies

  and the fire cleanses.     It is all a work of His spirit......seeing the fire/work portion of His Holy spirit pertains to judgement...

  and God's judgements being revealed in the earth...His opening the scriptures unto us..the final cleansing and offering on the altar

  that is pleasing aroma unto Him.   we are in the time Daniel prophesied about.

   fiery coals on the lips..for those of unclean speech=our testimony that is in part..coming to a greater fullness of Him.....

  we have putting forth tender leaves.....buds....flowers and then full ripe fruit.

    this is more about the sanctifying work of the Holy spirit[which overcomes the last enemy death] in His people..and is part

  even the final part of His sanctification....a seeing face to face...yes..your eyes will be fire...and you will be a flame......

       in Enoch  with the twinkling of His eye......the delightful nature is given......and Enoch become as one of His glorious ones....

      water softer than water fire hotter then lightening[as lightening east to west] and harder then rock..as electrum......

  when the elements[al] things melt[why do you say taste not touch not etc]

   no weapon formed against you will succeed because the Lord God is your maker. we are in the time where no-one will be seeing through

a glass darkly..and you will know what you are....and the whole earth that has been groaning for the revealing of the sons of God

shall rejoice.

   Yes! Baby you are a fire work!   [who can dwell with continual burnings]

Love It!  :thumbsup:

Double that  :2thumbs:   

[Cardinal]

Lake of Fire: :eek:

Here are my thoughts on that subject. Seth mentioned the Love of God as a pastor had shared with him. My thoughts run along this line as well. We hear about the "Seas" as humanity's multitudes. We see out of our belly shall flow"Rivers of Living Water. He makes his ministers "Flames of Fire".

Imagine a people purified with no mixture just the pure Love of God and are not we all ministers and as such Flames of Fire
(Holy Fire). Imagine a large multitude of these "Flames" might appear as a LAKE OF FIRE. That purity would surely convince the most hardened hearts since they could not run anywhere for safety to shelter their unbelief with false doctrines of man. The LOVE would be INTENSE. :dsunny: AND LOVE NEVER FAILS  :thumbsup: I'm thinking they'd come out WELL DONE!

Just my thoughts when reading that scripture passage.  :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob: :HeartThrob:

:cloud9: Yes, I had that thought come to me before too, about the ministers of flames being the lake of fire! Lake means "haven" also, like a safe haven for a boat in a storm. Blessings...

[marie glen]

Amen! And how totally awesome all that love will be!! We can hardly imagine...

[GodIsLove]

I am sure others have pointed it out before but the bible often talks about God being fire or fire emanating from God or associated with God.

I do believe that it is spiritual in nature as God is spirit.

Hebrews 12:29
our God is a consuming fire

Revalation 2:18
"And to the angel of the church in Thyatira write: The Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and His feet are like burnished bronze, says this:

Deuteronomy 4:36
"Out of the heavens He let you hear His voice to discipline you; and on earth He let you see His great fire, and you heard His words from the midst of the fire.

Exodus 3:2
The angel of the LORD appeared to him in a blazing fire from the midst of a bush; and he looked, and behold, the bush was burning with fire, yet the bush was not consumed.

Leviticus 9:24
Then fire came out from before the LORD and consumed the burnt offering and the portions of fat on the altar; and when all the people saw it, they shouted and fell on their faces.

Acts 2:3-4
And there appeared to them tongues as of fire distributing themselves, and they rested on each one of them. (Holy Spirit)

2 Samuel 22:9
"Smoke went up out of His nostrils, Fire from His mouth devoured; Coals were kindled by it.

Exodus 13:21
The LORD was going before them in a pillar of cloud by day to lead them on the way, and in a pillar of fire by night to give them light, that they might travel by day and by night.

Malachi 3:2-3
"But who can endure the day of His coming? And who can stand when He appears? For He is like a refiner's fire and like fullers' soap. "He will sit as a smelter and purifier of silver, and He will purify the sons of Levi and refine them like gold and silver, so that they may present to the LORD offerings in righteousness.

1 peter 1:7
so that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ;

1 Corinthians 3:13
each man's work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each man's work.

Ezekiel 22:20
'As they gather silver and bronze and iron and lead and tin into the furnace to blow fire on it in order to melt it, so I will gather you in My anger and in My wrath and I will lay you there and melt you.

Numbers 31:23
everything that can stand the fire, you shall pass through the fire, and it shall be clean, but it shall be purified with water for impurity. But whatever cannot stand the fire you shall pass through the water.

Luke 3:16 John answered and said to them all, "As for me, I baptize you with water; but One is coming who is mightier than I, and I am not fit to untie the thong of His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

Daniel 7:9
His throne was flaming with fire,
and its wheels were all ablaze.
A river of fire was flowing,
coming out from before him.

Even Jesus is called the light of the world:

John 8:12
Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

Back in Jesus's time, any light that light up the darkness was fire (no electricity, but even electricity is similar to fire) The sun and stars are basically super hot fire. The source of their energy is nuclear reactions going on deep inside the stars.

Since God is love and he is described as spiritually being fire, I think it is biblical to say that the lake of fire is somehow God's love.

I also agree that bodies of water in the bible represent people so somehow the lake of fire may be the believers and God.

For anyone who says that regret, shame, remorse etc are not horrible and don't cause wailing and gnashing of teeth...that person must not have had much experience with feeling regret. It is painful to realize the true extent of your actions. It consumes people. Especially in Asian cultures like in japan, people commit suicide because they are tormented by their shame.

But this true realization in the presence of our loving God is the first step to reconciliation.

We all have felt it haven't we? And what we felt must pale in comparison to what someone will feel who lived a whole lifetime immersed in darkness and sin.

Think about when you are stumbling around in the dark and someone flips on the light switch. You momentarily can't see but then everything is clear. If you are in darkness for just a moment there isn't much adjusting your eyes have to do, but when you have been in darkness for a while it takes longer. Someone who lived their life underground and then came to the surface would be confused, scared and think they'd gone blind. It would take them a long time to get used to the light for sure!

**edit: I'm smiling now re-reading all the posts and seeing all of our similar posts.  :dsunny: :HeartThrob: :iagree: with them all!

:flamebreath: and this one seems somewhat appropriate

[guest5685]

 :iagree: I sure have had my days of regret and it took time to get past that and allow His Love to bring healing.  :HeartThrob:

[Eduard]

 :thumbsup: :girlheart:

[eaglesway]

In my opinion this Psalm(107) describes the lake of fire in its essence.


Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good;
his love endures forever.
Let the redeemed of the Lord tell their story—
those he redeemed from the hand of the foe,
those he gathered from the lands,
from east and west, from north and south.

Some wandered in desert wastelands,
finding no way to a city where they could settle.
They were hungry and thirsty,
and their lives ebbed away.
Then they cried out to the Lord in their trouble,
and he delivered them from their distress.

He led them by a straight way
to a city where they could settle.(Zion and the Jerusalem of heaven Heb 12))

Let them give thanks to the Lord for his unfailing love(Rev 5:13, after Phil 2:9,10 & 1 Cor 15:21-28)
and his wonderful deeds for mankind(Col 1:15-20),
for he satisfies the thirsty
and fills the hungry with good things.

Some sat in darkness, in utter darkness,
prisoners suffering in iron chains,
because they rebelled against God's commands
and despised the plans of the Most High(Jude verse 6).
So he subjected them to bitter labor;
they stumbled, and there was no one to help.
Then they cried to the Lord in their trouble,
and he saved them from their distress.
He brought them out of darkness, the utter darkness,
and broke away their chains.

Let them give thanks to the Lord for his unfailing love
and his wonderful deeds for mankind,
for he breaks down gates of bronze
and cuts through bars of iron.

Some became fools through their rebellious ways
and suffered affliction because of their iniquities.
They loathed all food
and drew near the gates of death(Heb 6: 1-8).

Then they cried to the Lord in their trouble,
and he saved them from their distress.
He sent out his word and healed them;
he rescued them from the grave(1 Cor 15:26-28).
Let them give thanks to the Lord for his unfailing love
and his wonderful deeds for mankind.
Let them sacrifice thank offerings
and tell of his works with songs of joy.

Some went out on the sea in ships;
they were merchants on the mighty waters.
They saw the works of the Lord,
his wonderful deeds in the deep.
For he spoke and stirred up a tempest
that lifted high the waves.
They mounted up to the heavens and went down to the depths;
in their peril their courage melted away.
They reeled and staggered like drunkards;
they were at their wits' end(1 Cor 1:26; Obadiah 1:9).

Then they cried out to the Lord in their trouble,
and he brought them out of their distress.
He stilled the storm to a whisper;
the waves of the sea were hushed.
They were glad when it grew calm,
and he guided them to their desired haven.

Let them give thanks to the Lord for his unfailing love
and his wonderful deeds for mankind.
Let them exalt him in the assembly of the people
and praise him in the council of the elders.

He turned rivers into a desert,
flowing springs into thirsty ground,
and fruitful land into a salt waste,
because of the wickedness of those who lived there.
He turned the desert into pools of water
and the parched ground into flowing springs;
there he brought the hungry to live,
and they founded a city where they could settle.
They sowed fields and planted vineyards
that yielded a fruitful harvest;
he blessed them, and their numbers greatly increased,
and he did not let their herds diminish.
Then their numbers decreased, and they were humbled
by oppression, calamity and sorrow;
he who pours contempt on nobles
made them wander in a trackless waste.
But he lifted the needy out of their affliction
and increased their families like flocks.
The upright see and rejoice,
but all the wicked shut their mouths.
Let the one who is wise heed these things
and ponder the loving deeds of the Lord.(James 5:7-11)

[rosered]

    A wonderful flow of all   the posts  :HeartThrob:  Amen !!!! 

  I do believe suffering [taking up our cross and following Jesus ]   eventually  bears the fruit of   compassion in us all  and the LIGHT /TRUTH   reveals it   openly ,to those  given eyes to see it  ,in the  right moment     that always changes  our  course and  inner  being and does effect others  in a negative or positive way 

  Depending on HOW  they can handle the truth   as offensive  to them   or as  helpful   to them  , Truth can have a sting ,and be very painful to accept .[it is  repentance , the changing of your mind ]    to me its always been the  mind of the beast/carnal  or mind of Christ / spiritual   , Christ means  anointed , to smear the oil  , Oil is  the Holy Spirit , spoken as  of the olive trees  in scriptures    ,  compared to  young olive trees , its all so connected   ...Gods garden and planted trees [Psalms ]


   Being hot[ passionate]  or cold[ deadness ]   or lukewarm [comfortable ]  seems to be the    3  main conditions   of the  human  experience   driven by our hearts desires

Remembering the'' passion of the Christ'' and had to look into that word lol  biblically     and it was found in the CROSS

The base word being  meaningful  spiritually Strong's G2476 - histēmi
ἵστημι
Transliteration
histēmi
Pronunciation
hē'-stā-mē (Key)

Part of Speech
verb
Root Word (Etymology)
A prolonged form of a primary stao {stah'-o} (of the same meaning, and used for it in certain tenses)

to cause or make to stand, to place, put, set

to bid to stand by, [set up]

in the presence of others, in the midst, before judges, before members of the Sanhedrin;

to place

to make firm, fix establish

to cause a person or a thing to keep his or its place

to stand, be kept intact (of family, a kingdom), to escape in safety

to establish a thing, cause it to stand

to uphold or sustain the authority or force of anything

to set or place in a balance

to weigh: money to one (because in very early times before the introduction of coinage, the metals used to be weighed)

to stand

to stand by or near

to stop, stand still, to stand immovable, stand firm

of the foundation of a building

to stand

continue safe and sound, stand unharmed, to stand ready or prepared

to be of a steadfast mind

of quality, one who does not hesitate, does not waiver

  Jesus set the  world  on fire that the HOLY OIL  would burn   hot and on fire for God ...

Seeing the word passion  , it made  much more sense


Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Spirit had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:

Act 1:3       To whom also he showed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:


passion Strong's G3958 - paschō
πάσχω
Transliteration
paschō
Pronunciation
pä'-skhō (Key)

Part of Speech
verb
Root Word (Etymology)
Apparently a root word

to be affected or have been affected, to feel, have a sensible experience, to undergo

in a good sense, to be well off, in good case

in a bad sense, to suffer sadly, be in a bad plight

of a sick person
   THIS is what helped me most and worth sharing it      in my opinion , to those whom remember  ,   Jesus promises  to bring to our remembrance   the SPOKEN WORD 
When you look at the Cross  by human  perspectives , it seems cruel that the FATHER   would make His  innocent    and only one of a kind son suffer    for evil
 
and making   him look so weak  before the scoffers and  hateful  hearts   , to suffer  this kind of cruel death , so helpless  and so innocent  , NOT deserving  to be treated   so  painfully    wronged !!

I remember Peter  telling  Jesus and being so adamant  hard against     Jesus going to the cross  to die for the world     and Jesus told him  , he was an adversary against Gods desire   and only tasting the things that be of men   and NOT GOD   at all ...
  That was an eye opener         , showing Peters carnal mind   as beastly , going by what it feels and senses  as good  or evil   , it was going to benefit  him that Jesus stay with  them and NOT LEAVE  them ever

But the CROSS of Jesus Christ    was to set   the new covenant and  NEW world in place  , and a complete  pivotal  turning it   ALL around   ... 

DEATH was going to be  defeated by LIFE    !!   Death could no longer reign  as  king or ruler over  men's hearts  , JESUS CHRIST  made a way   to take death and swallow it up in VICTORY        , Giving all of mankind  grace  ,  a gift of Life    though the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD BY THE WORD made flesh       
All things new were  put in place   the moment HE begun to reign in the hearts of mankind  , Life over death

Jesus promised  an abundant life in the here and now and would not have to wait to literally die to receive  an inheritance   ,
It is my faith,  that all that died in faith   were  risen in CHRIST   at the moment HE  TOOK THE VICTORY OVER  DEATH     ...  DEFEATING IT   becoming apart of His body    that come out of Him    from the very foundation of the old world  and was scattered  throughout  the world and times and ages    the Bride /church  and   His Head /Authority    is ruling over all  with God the Father    [of the 12 tribes  foundation / walls the apostles ]   and the  adding to it daily

and we all  rise and fall   even now   ,  some are  seated with Christ in heavenly places  in the SPIRIT and truth       and some are in a place of torment till the Lord comes to deliver them out of the pits of despair  and darkness ....

I do believe it is a very spiritual   journey    that we have only begun to   taste and touch and feel with our  being  , being awakened out of   the sleep of death .
  where  the sin sickness and sadness and death are here and   are a  very present   evil  ,A  true vexing of  / over and against   , the    Holy Spirit  of Life working  in us  .

[marie glen]

"..and ponder the loving deeds of the Lord.."

Psalm 107! ...I agree!

..."desert wastelands..

...He sent out his word and healed them;
he rescued them from the grave(1 Cor 15:26-28).
Let them give thanks to the Lord for his unfailing love
and his wonderful deeds for mankind.
Let them sacrifice thank offerings
and tell of his works with songs of joy.

...and ponder the loving deeds of the Lord.."

He heals our wasteland, both personal and collective!

I think one of the things about the lake of fire is it's natural law.. "..He subjected them to bitter labor, they stumbled, and there was no one to help"

"(they cried unto the Lord) and
he saved them from their distress.
He brought them out of darkness, the utter darkness,
and broke away their chains..

...His love endures forever.
Let the redeemed of the Lord tell their story—
those he redeemed from the hand of the foe,
those he gathered from the lands,
from east and west, from north and south.."

I am a compulsive organize summarize.. :dontknow: and enjoyed this post!
going to read the cross references :thanks: :thumbsup:

[marie glen]

I loved your post Rose!

...especially

..the oil  ...compared to  young olive trees , its all so connected   ...Gods garden and planted trees [Psalms ]

     :cloud9:

And your description of life! ..the anointing overcoming death  :dsunny: :thumbsup:

I think where you and I differ is in our perception of afterlife.. I lean toward the sleeping in the grave, their graves a headboard.. seeds planted in the earth..

But no biggie! We're totally agreed on so many other things! and the basics! especially that "He is the savior of the world!"

Loved your post! :thumbsup:

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: And you know, that fire is spiritual but you can literally feel it. I felt it surrounding a Native American minister I met in Oklahoma once. There was a wall of fire all around him. I was astonished; I took my hand up and down it and I could literally feel the flames waving between my fingers. Blessings...

[Seth]

In my opinion this Psalm(107) describes the lake of fire in its essence.


Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good;
his love endures forever.
Let the redeemed of the Lord tell their story—
those he redeemed from the hand of the foe,
those he gathered from the lands,
from east and west, from north and south.

Some wandered in desert wastelands,
finding no way to a city where they could settle.
They were hungry and thirsty,
and their lives ebbed away.
Then they cried out to the Lord in their trouble,
and he delivered them from their distress.

He led them by a straight way
to a city where they could settle.(Zion and the Jerusalem of heaven Heb 12))

Let them give thanks to the Lord for his unfailing love(Rev 5:13, after Phil 2:9,10 & 1 Cor 15:21-28)
and his wonderful deeds for mankind(Col 1:15-20),
for he satisfies the thirsty
and fills the hungry with good things.

Some sat in darkness, in utter darkness,
prisoners suffering in iron chains,
because they rebelled against God's commands
and despised the plans of the Most High(Jude verse 6).
So he subjected them to bitter labor;
they stumbled, and there was no one to help.
Then they cried to the Lord in their trouble,
and he saved them from their distress.
He brought them out of darkness, the utter darkness,
and broke away their chains.

Let them give thanks to the Lord for his unfailing love
and his wonderful deeds for mankind,
for he breaks down gates of bronze
and cuts through bars of iron.

Some became fools through their rebellious ways
and suffered affliction because of their iniquities.
They loathed all food
and drew near the gates of death(Heb 6: 1-8).

Then they cried to the Lord in their trouble,
and he saved them from their distress.
He sent out his word and healed them;
he rescued them from the grave(1 Cor 15:26-28).
Let them give thanks to the Lord for his unfailing love
and his wonderful deeds for mankind.
Let them sacrifice thank offerings
and tell of his works with songs of joy.

Some went out on the sea in ships;
they were merchants on the mighty waters.
They saw the works of the Lord,
his wonderful deeds in the deep.
For he spoke and stirred up a tempest
that lifted high the waves.
They mounted up to the heavens and went down to the depths;
in their peril their courage melted away.
They reeled and staggered like drunkards;
they were at their wits' end(1 Cor 1:26; Obadiah 1:9).

Then they cried out to the Lord in their trouble,
and he brought them out of their distress.
He stilled the storm to a whisper;
the waves of the sea were hushed.
They were glad when it grew calm,
and he guided them to their desired haven.

Let them give thanks to the Lord for his unfailing love
and his wonderful deeds for mankind.
Let them exalt him in the assembly of the people
and praise him in the council of the elders.

He turned rivers into a desert,
flowing springs into thirsty ground,
and fruitful land into a salt waste,
because of the wickedness of those who lived there.
He turned the desert into pools of water
and the parched ground into flowing springs;
there he brought the hungry to live,
and they founded a city where they could settle.
They sowed fields and planted vineyards
that yielded a fruitful harvest;
he blessed them, and their numbers greatly increased,
and he did not let their herds diminish.
Then their numbers decreased, and they were humbled
by oppression, calamity and sorrow;
he who pours contempt on nobles
made them wander in a trackless waste.
But he lifted the needy out of their affliction
and increased their families like flocks.
The upright see and rejoice,
but all the wicked shut their mouths.
Let the one who is wise heed these things
and ponder the loving deeds of the Lord.(James 5:7-11)

Yeah, I agree, Psalm 107 I is pretty much how I see it too.

Lamentations 3:32
Though he brings grief, he will show compassion,
    so great is his unfailing love.

[rosered]

I loved your post Rose!

...especially

..the oil  ...compared to  young olive trees , its all so connected   ...Gods garden and planted trees [Psalms ]

     :cloud9:

And your description of life! ..the anointing overcoming death  :dsunny: :thumbsup:

I think where you and I differ is in our perception of afterlife.. I lean toward the sleeping in the grave, their graves a headboard.. seeds planted in the earth..

But no biggie! We're totally agreed on so many other things! and the basics! especially that "He is the savior of the world!"

Loved your post! :thumbsup:

  Thanks so much for the encouragement sista Marie !! 

I know lol ,    For me  have always been  different  in thinking    than most   :flowerred:
I just believe it is all God ,  that simple .   and a very broad  stroke .

, I don't know everything and will be the first to admit it ,  but   this is my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ  .

Still learning  of Him  and trusting Him for all   , One Day we all will know   , and there is   great comfort in that  , I don't even doubt we will all be especially surprised     :HeartThrob:

Just an opinion of many  open hearted and  willing  to discuss those things  of God , we have wrestled with all our lives  :2c:

[Lazarus Short]

I'm thinking they'd come out WELL DONE!

Yes - and those who still refused would be quite RARE.  :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

[guest5685]

I'm thinking they'd come out WELL DONE!

Yes - and those who still refused would be quite RARE.  :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Nice one Lazarus! Got me good on that one! :iagree:

[Seth]

Laz you read mind like a MEDIUM.

[Lazarus Short]

Laz you read mind like a MEDIUM.

No, I'm just a punster, or as I sometimes say, I'm a "Pun Gent."

[sheila]

 :laugh:    my humour gets me in trouble some times....everyone doesn't appreciate it. :mblush: