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FineLinen

By these three prepositions Paul ascribes the universe (ta panta) with all the phenomena concerning creation, redemption, providence to God as the

Ex= The Source

Di= The Agent

Eiv= The Goal

The koine, ta panta, is the strongest word for all in the Scriptures; it literally means the all.

Ta panta in the absolute sense of the whole of creation, the all things, the universe, and, everything in heaven and earth that is in need of uniting and redeeming.

**It is not in the limited sense of nearly all, panta minus ta.

The final preposition [eiv) reveals the ultimate goal of all that is. What has been provided in Christ is a re-turn, a re-storation, a re-newing, a re-demption, a re-concilation, a re-surrection, a re-stitution.

The prefix "re" means back again, again, anew and all the words with this prefix speak of something that left its place and has now made its circuit and come back to the point of its beginning.

"In the Christian story God descends to re-ascend. He comes down; down to the very roots and sea-bed of the nature He has created. But He goes down to come up again and bring the whole ruined world up with Him." -C.S. Lewis
Are our broadest hopes broad enough? Shall there be a nook or abyss, in all the universe of God, finally unlightened by the Cross? Shall there be a sin, or sorrow, or pain unhealed? Is the very universe, is creation in all its extent, a field wide enough for the Son of God?

marie glen

Nice!! It?s good to know he was Christian Universalist! :dsunny:
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FineLinen

Are our broadest hopes broad enough? Shall there be a nook or abyss, in all the universe of God, finally unlightened by the Cross? Shall there be a sin, or sorrow, or pain unhealed? Is the very universe, is creation in all its extent, a field wide enough for the Son of God?

darryl

Quote from: marie glen on August 12, 2020, 06:02:28 AM
Nice!! It?s good to know he was Christian Universalist! :dsunny:

I dont think he, CS Lewis, was a Christian universalist, sadly....on the way to being one maybe..but fell short
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FineLinen

#4
Are our broadest hopes broad enough? Shall there be a nook or abyss, in all the universe of God, finally unlightened by the Cross? Shall there be a sin, or sorrow, or pain unhealed? Is the very universe, is creation in all its extent, a field wide enough for the Son of God?

FineLinen

#5
Ta panta

Greek-English Lexicon Of The New Testament by William F. Arndt & Wilbur Gingrich


ta; pavnta.

In the abs. sense of the whole of creation all things, the universe

(Pla., Ep. 6 p. 323d twn pavntwn qeov"; hymn to Selene in EAbel, Orphica [1885] 294, 36 eij" se; ta; pavnta teleuta [s. 2ad above]; Herm. Wr. 13, 17 t. ktivsanta ta; pavnta; Philo, Spec. Leg. 1, 208, Rer. Div. Her. 36, Somn. 1, 241; PGM 1, 212 kuvrie twn pavntwn; 4, 3077) Ro 11:36 (Musaeus in Diog. L. 1, 3 ejx eJno;" ta; pavnta givnesqai kai; eij" taujto;n ajnaluvesqai. Cf. Norden, Agn. Th. 240-50); 1 Cor 8:6a, b; 15:28a, b; Eph 3:9; 4:10b; Phil 3:21; Col 1:16a, b, 17>b (HHegermann, D. Vorstellung vom Sch?pfungsmittler etc., TU 82, '61, 88ff); Hb 1:3; 2:10a, b; Rv 4:11; 1 Cl 34:2; PK 2 p. 13 (four times).

In the relative sense, indicated by the context, everything (Kupr. I p. 42 no. 29 ta;" stoa;" kai; ta; ejn aujtai" pavnta; PGiess. 2, 14 [II bc] in a bill: ta; p.=everything taken together) ejn parabolai" ta; pavnta givnetai everything (=all the preaching) is in parables Mk 4:11. Cf. Ac 17:25b; Ro 8:32b.

Of everything in heaven and earth that is in need of uniting and redeeming

"And God purposed through Him to reconcile the universe to Himself, making peace through His blood, which was shed upon the Cross to reconcile to Himself through Him, I say, things on earth and things in Heaven."

Are our broadest hopes broad enough? Shall there be a nook or abyss, in all the universe of God, finally unlightened by the Cross? Shall there be a sin, or sorrow, or pain unhealed? Is the very universe, is creation in all its extent, a field wide enough for the Son of God?

FineLinen

Are our broadest hopes broad enough? Shall there be a nook or abyss, in all the universe of God, finally unlightened by the Cross? Shall there be a sin, or sorrow, or pain unhealed? Is the very universe, is creation in all its extent, a field wide enough for the Son of God?

FineLinen

#7
The larger hope is entirely in our Gods hands extending to everything in the heavens, earth and underworld.

The timing of this glorious consummation of ta panta (the all) is in "the fulness of times"/ the fulness of the aions.

Thunder in the desert!

Prepare God's arrival!

Make the road smooth and straight!

Every ditch will be filled in,

Every bump smoothed out,

The detours straightened out,

All the ruts paved over.

Everyone will be there to see

The parade of God's salvation. -MSG-
Are our broadest hopes broad enough? Shall there be a nook or abyss, in all the universe of God, finally unlightened by the Cross? Shall there be a sin, or sorrow, or pain unhealed? Is the very universe, is creation in all its extent, a field wide enough for the Son of God?

FineLinen

#8
Kolasis aionion -Matthew 25:46

Greek scholar William Barclay wrote concerning kolasis aionion (age-during corrective chastisement) in Matthew 25:46 The Greek word for punishment is kolasis, which was not originally an ethical word at all. It originally meant the pruning of trees to make them grow better. There is no instance in Greek secular literature where kolasis does not mean remedial punishment. It is a simple fact that in Greek kolasis always means remedial punishment. God's punishment is always or man's cure.

Fifteen literally translated (not interpretively translated) Bibles that reveal what God will do with the sinners in Matthew 25:46

Concordant Literal, Young's literal, Wilson's Emphatic Diaglott, Rotherham's Emphasized, Scarlett's, J.W. Hanson's New Covenant, Twentieth Century, Ferrar Fenton, The Western New Testament, Weymouth's (unedited), Clementson's, The New Testament of our Lord and Savior Jesus Anointed, The Restoration of Original Sacred Name Bible, Bullinger's Companion Bible margins, Jonathan Mitchell's translation (2010).

Concerning the duration of kolasis (literally - corrective punishment), Matt. 25:46 says

(KJV), And these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into life eternal.

Scarlett's New Testament written in 1792 has aeonian punishment in place of everlasting punishment. And these will go away into aeonian punishment: but the righteous into aeonian life.

The New Covenant by Dr. J.W. Hanson written in 1884 renders Matt. 25:46: And these shall go away into aeonian chastisement, and the just into aeonian life.

Young's Literal Translation first published in 1898 and reprinted many times since uses the following words: And these shall go away to punishment age-during, but the righteous to life age-during.

Professor Young also compiled Young's  Concordance, where one can check the translation of each Hebrew or Greek word as translated in the KJV.

The Twentieth Century New Testament first printed in the year 1900 has: And these  will go away into aeonian punishment, but the righteous into aeonian life.

The Holy Bible in Modern English by Ferrar Fenton first published in 1903 gives the rendering: "And these He will dismiss into a long correction, but the well-doers to an enduring life.

The New Testament in Modern Speech, by Dr. Weymouth, says: And these shall go away into punishment of the ages, but the righteous into life of the ages.

Dr. Weymouth most frequently adopts such terms as life of the ages, fire of the ages; and in Rev. 14:6, The good news of the ages. It is a matter to regret that the editors of the most recent edition of Dr. Weymouth's version have reverted to the KJV renderings for the passages containing the Greek word aion, eon, or age.

The Western New Testament published in 1926 renders Matt. 25:46 as follows: And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into life eternal. The translation, however, has a footnote on Matthew 21:19 on the word forever says: Literally, for the age.

Clementson's The New Testament (1938) shows, And these shall go away into eonian correction, but the righteous into eonian life.

Wilson's Emphatic Diaglott (1942 edition) translates the verse, And these shall go forth to the aionian cutting-off; but the righteous to aionian life. It should be noted that the cutting-off refers to pruning a fruit tree to make it bear more fruit. The idea behind the word is not destructive but productive! Had Jesus wanted to emphasize a destructive end, He would have used the word timoria.

The Concordant Version (1930): And these shall be coming away into chastening eonian, yet the just into life eonian.

The New Testament of our Lord and Savior Jesus Anointed printed in 1958 says: And these shall go away into agelasting cutting-off and the just into agelasting life.

Joseph B. Rotherham, in his Emphasized Bible (1959), translates this verse, and these shall go away into age-abiding correction, but the righteous into age-abiding life.

The Restoration of Original Sacred Name Bible copyrighted in 1976 has age-abiding correction instead of everlasting punishment.

Jonathan Mitchell's translation (2010) has "And so, these folks will be going off into an eonian pruning (a lopping-off which lasts for an undetermined length of time; an age-lasting correction; a pruning which has its source and character in the Age), yet the fair and just folks who are in right relationship and are in accord with the Way pointed out [go off] into eonian life (life which has it source and character in the Age; life pertaining to the Age).

Even some King James Study Bibles will show the reader in the margins or appendixes that the King's translators were incorrect in their rendering of "eternal punishment."

The great Companion Bible by Dr. Bullinger is an example.

Greek scholar William Barclay wrote concerning kolasis aionion (age-during corrective chastisement) in Matthew 25:46 The Greek word for punishment is kolasis, which was not originally an ethical word at all. It originally meant the pruning of trees to make them grow better. There is no instance in Greek secular literature where kolasis does not mean remedial punishment. It is a simple fact that in Greek kolasis always means remedial punishment. God's punishment is always for man's cure.

God is the Source, Guide & Goal of ta panta (the all)  From Him ta panta, through Him ta panta, in Him ta panta.


Are our broadest hopes broad enough? Shall there be a nook or abyss, in all the universe of God, finally unlightened by the Cross? Shall there be a sin, or sorrow, or pain unhealed? Is the very universe, is creation in all its extent, a field wide enough for the Son of God?

FineLinen

#9
The radical all of ta panta is the Source of all, and the Goal of all. This is the declaration of Scripture.

Romans 11:36 =

https://www.biblestudytools.com/romans/11-36-compare.html

Rotherham emphasized =

"Because, of him, and through him, and unto him, are all things: unto him, be the glory, unto the ages. Amen!"

The koine =

ὅτι ἐξ αὐτοῦ καὶ δι᾽ αὐτοῦ καὶ εἰς αὐτὸν τὰ πάντα αὐτῷ ἡ δόξα εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας ἀμήν
Are our broadest hopes broad enough? Shall there be a nook or abyss, in all the universe of God, finally unlightened by the Cross? Shall there be a sin, or sorrow, or pain unhealed? Is the very universe, is creation in all its extent, a field wide enough for the Son of God?