spiritual bodies

[Taffy]

"And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power" (Rev. 9:3).

those scorpions were of a Rebelious HOUSE-- gee MARY means their REBELLION- a symbol of the LAW and the carnal mind-
e 2:6 ¶ And thou, son of man, be not afraid of them, neither be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns [be] with thee, and thou dost dwell among scorpions: be not afraid of their words, nor be dismayed at their looks, though they [be] a rebellious house. 


Eze 2:7   And thou shalt speak my words unto them, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear: for they [are] most rebellious. 


Eze 2:8   But thou, son of man, hear what I say unto thee; Be not thou rebellious like that rebellious house: open thy mouth, and eat that I give thee. 

[Beloved Servant]

The visible, tangible, physical things (locusts) which come out of the smoke
represent the men, ministries, movements, organizations, governments, and activities
that are born/spawned by the thoughts, perceptions, ideas, interpretations, and opinions that come from the heart!

[Taffy]

..they SPOKE after there Father the Serpent who birthed the EARTHYcarnal mind--- pertaining ONLY to seeing the NATURAL mOLLY which is DEATH----

The serpent didn't 'birth' anything.  He degraded and corrupted what God had created.  Only life can create.

The serpent is Death.

he was the Thought which was the LIE which brought FORTH \BIRTHED death through EVE\our soul\mind\heart 
For to be carnally minded [is] death; but to be spiritually minded [is] life and peace.

[Taffy]

The visible, tangible, physical things (locusts) which come out of the smoke
represent the men, ministries, movements, organizations, governments, and activities
that are born/spawned by the thoughts, perceptions, ideas, interpretations, and opinions that come from the heart!

always found this one interesting Beloved Servant -Isa 65:5   Which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These [are] a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day.  

[Beloved Servant]

Oh Nineveh!: "Thy crowned ones are as the locusts" (Nahum 3:17).

[Taffy]

Oh Nineveh!: "Thy crowned ones are as the locusts" (Nahum 3:17).

dont Locusts Consume the HARVEST?-The locusts have no king, Yet they all advance in ranks;

:icon_flower:

[Beloved Servant]

"And unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power...and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man" (Rev. 9:3-5).

[Taffy]

The sting in their Tails - the false prophets who SPEAK lies- the STING of DEATH   :sigh:

[Beloved Servant]

Daimon means, literally, a DEIFIED SPIRIT!  It is a GOD that rules over man.

[Molly]

You still haven't shown me where death can give birth to anything.  Death is inert.  It is stasis.  It is the state of being without life.  All it can do is corrupt everything that touches it.

"death"

a permanent cessation of all vital functions : the end of life

[Beloved Servant]

John12:24;
Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

[Taffy]

You still haven't shown me where death can give birth to anything.  Death is inert.  It is stasis.  It is the state of being without life.  All it can do is corrupt everything that touches it.

"death"

a permanent cessation of all vital functions : the end of life

thats why ADAM DROPPED DEAD THE MOMENT he ate from the Tree of death right - or why when the carnal Mind Gives life to thought as did the carnal mind of PETER - Molly if you dont see this Fine--- well just go around day

Death can not give life to anything MOLLY not even a Thought  its dead as you mention so how can one even THINK--- life is in the BLOOD within Natural Man too he has a Brain which processs thought-- what on earth do you Think gives life to it?

[Taffy]

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.   Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: 

seem dead people can Believe to  -- how on earth can dead folk believe--- if they can believe they MUST have thought even though they WERE DEAD--- so the DEAD can GIVE LIFE TO THOUGHTS--why is this sooooooooo difficult to understand???? :dontknow:

[Molly]

You still haven't shown me where death can give birth to anything.  Death is inert.  It is stasis.  It is the state of being without life.  All it can do is corrupt everything that touches it.

"death"

a permanent cessation of all vital functions : the end of life

thats why ADAM DROPPED DEAD THE MOMENT he ate from the Tree of death right - or why when the carnal Mind Gives life to thought as did the carnal mind of PETER - Molly if you dont see this Fine--- well just go around day

Death can not give life to anything MOLLY not even a Thought  its dead as you mention so how can one even THINK--- life is in the BLOOD within Natural Man too he has a Brain which processs thought-- what on earth do you Think gives life to it?

He did drop dead the moment he ate from the tree.  He dropped dead spiritually.  He lost his direct and unimpeded access to God.  He lost his dominion.  He lost eternal life. He's been the walking dead ever since.

If natural man could process a life giving thought on his own, this world would be a paradise today.

[Taffy]

You still haven't shown me where death can give birth to anything.  Death is inert.  It is stasis.  It is the state of being without life.  All it can do is corrupt everything that touches it.

"death"

a permanent cessation of all vital functions : the end of life

thats why ADAM DROPPED DEAD THE MOMENT he ate from the Tree of death right - or why when the carnal Mind Gives life to thought as did the carnal mind of PETER - Molly if you dont see this Fine--- well just go around day

Death can not give life to anything MOLLY not even a Thought  its dead as you mention so how can one even THINK--- life is in the BLOOD within Natural Man too he has a Brain which processs thought-- what on earth do you Think gives life to it?

He did drop dead the moment he ate from the tree.  He dropped dead spiritually.  He lost his direct and unimpeded access to God.  He lost his dominion.  He lost eternal life. He's been the walking dead ever since.

If natural man could process a life giving thought on his own, this world would be a paradise today.

then he would be spiritually minded--- but that doesnt negate that DEAD folk dont birth Toughts Just cos there walking DEAD MOLLY---- hence they Give Life to their Thoughts as did EVE but brought DEATH

[Beloved Servant]

Paradise ruled by carnality. It is precisely where we are today. Adams' brainchild!

[Taffy]

Paradise ruled by carnality. It is precisely where we are today. Adams' brainchild!

:thumbsup:

[Molly]

Paradise ruled by carnality. It is precisely where we are today. Adams' brainchild!

We aren't even that far.  Thousands of children die of starvation every day.

Carnality is not interested in life.  Only death.

[Beloved Servant]

Yet there are countless charities striving to feed the children: The tree of good and evil is the only fruit the mind of man can bear.

[Molly]

Yet there are countless charities striving to feed the children: The tree of good and evil is the only fruit the mind of man can bear.

If they were really interested in feeding the children, the children would be fed.

They aren't.  They love death.

[Taffy]

Yeah, you're right.  My question could lead into battle ground territory.  My mistake.  My main point is, I believe there's literal (form) and figurative (function);  and we can lose sight of either if we get too locked in on one or the other. 

Anyway, blessings.   :bigGrin:

Jab- For us Figurative Folk we are Not throwing the Baby out the water---as even the figurative is Literal--- for mine Without semantics, its better understood The natural take as in HOW any other BOOK in the world is read... BUT the figurative Rising to another Plane--- which for mine when understood makes the natural understood , ity the natural veiw which causes Contention-- as the scrips read this way always seem to contradict each other--hence way men have there battle grounds----- :HeartThrob:

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I know you see the literal as well Taf.   :Peace2:

:icon_flower: :thumbsup:

[Beloved Servant]

If they were really interested in feeding the children, the children would be fed.

They aren't.  They love death.

So they sew fig leaves together and make self-righteous, man-made, protective coverings for themselves.

[Taffy]

the very SKIN of our felshy Bodies Known as SKIN-- hence why sarx= flesh means carnally mined= to be striiped away---- and the LORD who DRAW DRAGS[ your flesh off] :icon_flower:

[Molly]

If they were really interested in feeding the children, the children would be fed.

They aren't.  They love death.

So they sew fig leaves together and make self-righteous, man-made, protective coverings for themselves.

Sew fig leaves--By pretending to support charity.  So the rest of the world will look away and not see their naked evil.

Those Pharisees weren't cute little misguided carnal folk--they were murderers.  Murder means intent.

[Beloved Servant]

Murderers from the beginning; a war of two wills, one of God and the other of man.