Yet more U.R./C.U. in God's Word -
Romans 5:12 ...just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin..
John 6:33 For the Bread of God.. ...comes down from heaven and gives life to the world."
[Romans 5:12 - Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death was passed on to all men, because all sinned. John 6:33 - For the bread of God is the One coming out of heaven and giving life to the world.
Quote from: marie glen on February 24, 2018, 05:58:38 PM
Yet more U.R./C.U. in God's Word -
Romans 5:12 ...just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin..
John 6:33 For the Bread of God.. ...comes down from heaven and gives life to the world."
[Romans 5:12 - Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death was passed on to all men, because all sinned. John 6:33 - For the bread of God is the One coming out of heaven and giving life to the world.
Just as water from above can bring life to a desert landscape
a picture of what we are being brought out of and the
glorious picture of what we are being brought into
awesome MG
Thanks Jugghead.. I just love how ever more and more U.R. becomes apparent in God's word.. :dsunny: :cloud9:
The whole chapter of course is FULL of universal reconciliation.. but verse 19 is another verse which compares Adam and Jesus using the phrase "the many".
Just as Adam's disobedience made the many to be sinners (and thus death spread to all) in the same way, by Jesus' obedience, the many, will be made righteous.
And the previous verse is just as clear - http://biblehub.com/interlinear/romans/5-18.htm
Elsewhere too it says the gift (as opposed to the curse) "abounds" as compared to the fall.. but that may be just a version saying it that way :dontknow: I cant remember where it's at or how it says it..
:Chinscratch: isn't there a verse saying grace much more abounds..? :doh: it's verse 20, lol.. It says where sin abounded, grace overabounded..
....Romans 5, very much a UR chapter.
Quote from: marie glen on February 25, 2018, 12:53:04 AM
Thanks Jugghead.. I just love how ever more and more U.R. becomes apparent in God's word.. :dsunny: :cloud9:
yes, it's amazing ! :banana: :dsunny:
Paul, and all his fellow Apostles, were teaching how great, merciful and victorious Jesus was/is.
That's macro scale (almost) all Christians agree with Jesus was successful.
But on a micro scale people get bogged down on word meanings and try to twist those words without exception in such a way that the success of Christ is minimized as much as possible.
Quote from: WhiteWings on February 27, 2018, 11:35:49 AM
Paul, and all his fellow Apostles, were teaching how great, merciful and victorious Jesus was/is.
That's macro scale (almost) all Christians agree with Jesus was successful.
But on a micro scale people get bogged down on word meanings and try to twist those words without exception in such a way that the success of Christ is minimized as much as possible.
That is just it, '' truth '' , has many meanings to the hearer Bro T .
And we all are limited to Gods power
It is like trying to put God in a box . :sigh:
If you look past the whole universe and even beyond and even past time and space , with imaginations and strong desire we still cannot fathom all of it with the possible GOD .
That is impossible with a tiny breath and speck of dust , that all humanity was formed from , just God speaking it into being .
It is only By the Holy Spirit teaching us by Gods grace that we can even begin to grow in truth and grace as God allows .
None can go past what God has given them to know .
, It really is Jesus Christ whom is that door and entry way to the unknown , being the revealing or revelation of Jesus Christ and all that is Opened though His judgement and flaming Sword /Word & Spirit at this time ..
To Know Him is to love Him , many do not love Him or know Him fully yet 100% , we can only taste Gods goodness now as much as HE ALLOWS us to taste the tree of Life and its fruits .
We have to grow into it by HIS increase or addition, especially one of a series on a fixed scale and measured with Jesus Christ standard being the cross forgiveness of sins and not to continue in these lusts /errors .
Missing out on an abundant Life in Christ .
Paul left death behind him totally from that cross of Jesus Christ and raced to LIFE from Life in Christ from his own road from Damascus as resurrected and a new creature in Christ , preaching the good news of the gospel , it was his lot to make up for all the death he left behind him at his own cross , from Saul to Paul .a new name and a new way of Life in Christ and suffering for doing good and not evil any longer and knowing the difference of what fruit of his doings was , exchanging death and darkness for Light and Life ..
This is a pattern to tasting Gods goodness though the grace given and letting Love rule the heart and learning to hate evil in any form and knowing what evil does , PAUL did not realize what evil he was doing in his darkness but when the LIGHT come he began to know what righteousness was , it was the power of MERCY over death .
and How LOVE is the end result and the truth sets us free our hope in in the end result being LOVE rules and reigns 100% to be honest on a percentage range we cannot know where we are measuring in at , 30 fold , 60 fold 100 fold
hun·dred·fold. Use hundredfold in a sentence. adverb. Hundredfold is defined as 100 times as much. When you have one bunny and then you have 100 bunnies, this is an example of a time when the number of bunnies increased a hundredfold.
But God knows the end from the beginning because it is all from His hand / power to do it , as we obey His voice and forgive 70 x 7 and Love anyways and LIVE :2c: