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Apologetics - Universal Reconciliation => Word Studies => Topic started by: marie glen on August 07, 2022, 06:14:33 PM

Title: ps 81:15 not forever
Post by: marie glen on August 07, 2022, 06:14:33 PM
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     psalm 81
Vs.15 - Young?s Literal Translation - ?Those hating Jehovah feign obedience to Him, But their time is -- to the age.?
     A word for word translation of the verse with some regularly translated versions following:
     ?Hate Yhvh (God/Yahweh)
           (sane [saw-nay'] - to hate [intensely/utterly])
     ?Hate God kachash (to disappoint, deceive, fail, grow lean) ל֑וֹ (? him/to him?) hayah (to fall out, come to pass, become, be) eth (time) olam (long duration, antiquity, futurity, long duration past or future)
    ..hate God disappoint, fade, fail and grow lean becoming, (for?) time of duration (age?)

Some versions ?
    Those who hate the LORD would cringe before him, and their punishment would last forever.
     Those who hate the LORD would feign obedience, and their doom would last forever.
     The haters of the LORD should have submitted themselves unto him: but their time should have endured for ever.
     Those who hate the LORD would pretend to obey Him, And their time of punishment would be forever.
     Those who hate the LORD would cower to him; their doom would last forever.
     The haters of LORD JEHOVAH have angered him and he is their cause of trembling for eternity.
     Everyone who hates me would come crawling, and that would be the end of them.
     Those who hate me would bow in fear before me; their punishment would last forever.

    ..hate God disappoint, fade, fail and grow lean becoming, (for?) time of duration

Olam, long DURATION, is often translated as ?
ages (1), all successive (1), always (1), ancient (13), ancient times (3), continual (1), days of old (1), eternal (2), eternity (3), ever (10), Everlasting (2), everlasting (110), forever (136), forever and ever (1), forever* (70), forevermore* (1), lasting (1), long (2), long ago (3), long past (1), long time (3), never* (17), old (11), permanent (10), permanently (1), perpetual (29), perpetually (1).

    ..hate God disappoint, fade, fail and grow lean becoming, (for?) time of duration

Logically(?) to hate God (who is Life) is to grow lean, fade, for the duration (of the hate)