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Apologetics - Universal Reconciliation => Word Studies => Topic started by: sven on December 28, 2008, 05:46:54 PM

Title: olethros
Post by: sven on December 28, 2008, 05:46:54 PM
its about 2. Thessalonians 1,9

who shall suffer justice -- destruction age-during -- from the face of the Lord, and from the glory of his strength

what exactly does olethros, here translated "destruction" mean?

german translations translate normally, "eternal perdition", a concordant translation translates, "eonian extermination".

what does olethros exactly mean, and what do u think is this verse saying, people beeing exterminated for an age, or people sufferering for an age?
Title: Re: olethros
Post by: sven on December 29, 2008, 08:25:33 PM
the problem seems, that greek words are defined in english different than in germany, while english translations imply desctruction, german translations imply suffering.
what do u personally think is here meant, people put out of existence for an age, or people suffering for an age?

i found the word in 4 verses in the septuagint:

1Ki 13,34 και εγενετο το ρημα τουτο εις αμαρτιαν τω οικω ιεροβοαμ και εις ολεθρον και εις αφανισμον απο προσωπου της γης

Jer 28,55 οτι εξωλεθρευσεν κυριος την βαβυλωνα και απωλεσεν απ' αυτης φωνην μεγαλην ηχουσαν ως υδατα πολλα εδωκεν εις ολεθρον φωνην αυτης

Eze 6,14 και εκτενω την χειρα μου επ' αυτους και θησομαι την γην εις αφανισμον και εις ολεθρον απο της ερημου δεβλαθα εκ πασης της κατοικιας και επιγνωσεσθε οτι εγω κυριος

Eze 14,16 και οι τρεις ανδρες ουτοι εν μεσω αυτης ωσι ζω εγω λεγει κυριος ει υιοι η θυγατερες σωθησονται αλλ' η αυτοι μονοι σωθησονται η δε γη εσται εις ολεθρον
Title: Re: olethros
Post by: firstborn888 on December 30, 2008, 03:11:04 AM
I go to studylight.org and read the original Heb/Greek meanings in the Strong's. The only thing is you have to look at the root words and the simple scholarly meanings as the Strong's will also add the religious traditional interpretations afterwards. It's fairly easy to spot though (the line between the real meaning and the theologians add-ons)  :Sparkletooth: