Mat 28:1 Evening of the Sabbath

[WhiteWings]

Matthew 28
1 And, late in the week, when it was on the point of dawning into the first of the week, came Mary the Magdalene, and the other Mary, to view the sepulchre.
1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
1 And on the eve of the sabbaths, at the dawn, toward the first of the sabbaths, came Mary the Magdalene, and the other Mary, to see the sepulchre,
1 Now late on the Sabbath day, being dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb.
1 Now late on the sabbath day, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
1 Now late on the Sabbath, when the dawn of the first day of the week was near, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the place where his body was.
1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
1 But after the Sabbath, at the dawning toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb.
1 Now on the morning of the Sabbath, when it began to grow light on the first Sabbath, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the sepulcher.
1 Now late on sabbath, as it was the dusk of the next day after sabbath, came Mary of Magdala and the other Mary to look at the sepulchre.
1 AND in the end of the sabbath, when it began to dawn towards the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalen and the other Mary, to see the sepulchre.
1 In the eve of the shabbaths as it begins to dawn to the first of the shabbaths, Miryam the Magdalene and the other Miryam go to observe the tomb.
1 In the end eve of the sabbath shabbaths , as it began to dawn toward unto the first day of the week shabbaths , came Mary Miryam the Magdalene and the other Mary Miryam to see observe the sepulchre tomb .
1 Now late on the sabbath day, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
1 Now after the Shabbat, as it began to dawn on the first day of the week, Miriam from Magdala and the other Miriam came to see the tomb.
1 In the end of the Sabbath day, as it began to dawn towards the first day of the week, early in the morning, came Mary Magdalene, and the other Mary to see the sepulcher.
1 Now well along on the sabbath, as it began to dawn on the first of the sabbaths, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.


At what day did the women arrive?
Some clarification why it isn't obvious they arrived at sunday morning.


1 And on the eve of the sabbaths, at the dawn, toward the first of the sabbaths, came Mary the Magdalene, and the other Mary, to see the sepulchre,
A Jewish day start with evening and ends with day. Depending on the season that's about 18:00-06:00 and 06:00-18:00
The women left home at the eve of the Sabbaths. Eve is followed by day. Meaning that, say, an hour later was the day of the sabbaths. Sabbath can mean several things but (imo) it's certain this verse doesn't say sunday. (but it can mean sunday)

This translation is more clear on that:
1 Now on the morning of the Sabbath, when it began to grow light on the first Sabbath, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the sepulcher.
Not this translation uses sabbath in singular form. Not plural as the one above.
Now after the Shabbat, as it began to dawn on the first day of the week, Miriam from Magdala and the other Miriam came to see the tomb.
This one looks obvious but in fact is less obvious than the previous 2 verses I listed.
After Shabbat sounds like after Saturday. So it's sunday. But as usual it isn't that simple. There are basicly 2 types of Sabbath. The weekly Sabath. Friday 18:00 - Saturday 18:00
The special sabbath. The most holy days of the Jewish callendars. Passover is such a day. It's always a Sabbath regardless on what day of the week Passover is.
So only considering that the verse might as well mean after Passover which was on Tuesday.
"First day of the week" seems to totally clear up the matter. Also on the Jewish calendar the fist day of the week is sunday.
In most of the cases..... :winkgrin:
Passover is followed by 7 weeks. Or 7 sabbaths. Or feast of weeks. And of course ends at Pentecost.
Depending on doctrine those weeks always start at saturday/sunday/16th (can be any day)
Remember the 7 weeks are described as 7 perfect Sabbaths followed by a Sunday. Sunday is disputed by some. According to them it's nothing more than simply counting 50 days.
So, if the first day of the week refers to the first day of the feast of weeks what day would it be. Saturday, Sunday, any day?

1 Now on the morning of the Sabbath, when it began to grow light on the first Sabbath, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the sepulcher.
This translation seems to combine some of the above.
"The morning of the Sabbath". Meaning it's still sabbath or a reference to the feast of weeks.
"first sabbath". Obviously there is only one Saturday-Sabbath is  a week so this must be a reference to the 1st of 7 Sabbaths toward Pentecost. But according to some doctrine(s) it can be any day because sabbath also can mean week. So it's just the first say of a group of seven weeks that for example starts on a Wednesday.

My conclusion? Mostly confusion  :winkgrin:
Considering all translations the woman arrived on a Sabbath day which was also (near) the start of the Pentecost count.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Wouldn't you need to know when the feast of Passover was celebrated that year, to know the exact day?   :dontknow:

But; the Sabbath begins roughly at 6p on Friday and ends at 6pm on Saturday.

[WhiteWings]

That's not how things work (for me).
The choice of year is usually chosen according to doctine. Saturday or sunday resurrection for example.
Besides of that it's impossible to select a year and day that match. Yeah I know there are astronimical tables for new moons. But that's not the Biblical new moon.

I just wasnt to reach several independant conclusions based on different data.

But; the Sabbath begins roughly at 6p on Friday and ends at 6pm on Saturday.

Could be true. Or not.
You have to know that the whole dating of Jesus life can only be done by secular means. So lot of "doctrine" is based on historians.
The whole history starting about the time of Herod the great is very vague. Or at least was so for a very long time.
Scribal errors in secular documents have been found and proven. So every fact everybody knows might not be a fact at all.
Simple test for your. Google for the year John the Baptist was beheaded. John died before Jesus. Then Google for the year Jesus died.
Comparing most sources/views Jesus died a few year before John. Because of such issue's people try to defend certain doctrines by giving all sorts of twists to for example the word Sabbath.

So I want several bits of proof and then see if they align. That's how I do my "research".