https://www.studylight.org/desk/interlinear.cgi?t1=nas&q1=1+Pet+5%3A10
https://www.studylight.org/desk/interlinear.cgi?t1=nas&q1=2+Timothy+2%3A10
In 1 Pet 5:10 and 2 Tim 2:10 we have in English translations Eternal Glory:
1 Pet 5:10-αιωνιον αυτου δοξαν
2 Tim 2:10-δοξης αιωνιου
Would you translate it as the standard Enlgish translations have it as Eternal Glory or would you as a Uni translate it as Eonion Glory?
Not much of a Greek Scholar here, but the YLT seems to always translate the word aion, aionian, etc. as age during. 1 Peter 5:10-11 in YLT is:
10 And the God of all grace, who did call you to His age-during glory in Christ Jesus, having suffered a little, Himself make you perfect, establish, strengthen, settle [you];
11 to Him [is] the glory, and the power--to the ages and the ages! Amen.
I would translate it as age during; eonian seems a bit unclear to me.
I would say, translate it to Hebrew and go from there. Olam
http://radical-reaction.com/MyChristianSites/BitsAndPieces/hebraic_meaning.html#Olam
Please read the above article. Especially the part about the red car. It's not much but quoting it here gives an unreable mess.
And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast.
And the God of all grace, who called you to his OLAM glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast.
Olam is an adjective, and for that reason not time related.
Olam as an adjective points to 'Godly atributes'
So:
And the God of all grace, who called you to his GODLY glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast.
or
And the God of all grace, who called you to his glory of/(orginating)from God in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast.
Quote from: WhiteWings on March 22, 2018, 06:50:16 AM
And the God of all grace, who called you to his glory of/(orginating)from God in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast.
I.M.O the glorious key- "Originating from God!"
Isaiah and Paul both talk about the pot and the potter- vessels from the same source made for different purposes.
So when God is the one doing the work, is changing us from our attempts at glory to His provision of Glory- very much originating from God not us. We suffer a while to come to that realisation at our allotted time. This all makes us FULLY appreciate the work of Christ which sets us free from the law, of sin, and death.
Translation is one of those key factors, yet we still need our Father to be the One pointing out this information.
Paul planted, Apollos watered, but God makes us grow.
Quote from: JamesH on March 22, 2018, 02:41:51 AM
https://www.studylight.org/desk/interlinear.cgi?t1=nas&q1=1+Pet+5%3A10
https://www.studylight.org/desk/interlinear.cgi?t1=nas&q1=2+Timothy+2%3A10
In 1 Pet 5:10 and 2 Tim 2:10 we have in English translations Eternal Glory:
1 Pet 5:10-αιωνιον αυτου δοξαν
2 Tim 2:10-δοξης αιωνιου
Would you translate it as the standard Enlgish translations have it as Eternal Glory or would you as a Uni translate it as Eonion Glory?
It would be aionion. Meaning the Glory IS and will CONTINUE to be after the current age.
A very good analysis of the word αιων (aion) is by Louis Abbott.
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/asw/Chapter1.html