Is UR True? I want to believe it but...

[kaazoom]

Hi Everyone,

My name is Paul. I live in the UK and have been a Christian for 30 years. I first came across the Tentmaker site a couple of years ago. I found many of the articles interesting, but wasn't sure whether I could believe everything on here, especially as it goes against all I have been taught over the years. To be honest, I wasn't sure that I wanted to be called a heretic. Truth is important, and that includes truth that I find unpalatable, such as the idea of eternal punishment. Besides, the question of what happens to the ungodly when they die was just a theological question that didn't affect me at the time. It is easy to theorise about faceless people. I knew all of the theological answers as to why God is just in punishing finite sins with infinite punishement. Besides, it is main stream teaching. But the articles on Tentmaker did challenge me and open my mind to another possibility.

  On the 9th September 2008 these questions became a major concern for me. My wonderful son was killed in a tragic accident. David was bought up in a christian home, and had made a profession of faith many years ago. But he wasn't living a godly life. He was a kind generous young man. He worked for a care agency working with old people and people who have disabilities. He was well liked by everyone he worked with and was always in demand because of his kind caring nature. But there was another side to David. He loved to party, and party hard. He enjoyed drinking and getting drunk. He loved heavy metal music and performed in a couple of bands which he loved doing. He was a talented musician and artist, although his music and art were not to our taste. We still loved him and encouraged him in all he did although he was aware that we didn't approve of all aspects of his lifestyle. Here is a tribute video I made for him, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XxtrAk4EhY  he is the vocalist on it. Be warned the music may not be to your taste.


So what has happened to David? If what I have always believed is true there is a good chance that he will be tormented in hell for eternity. Of course, Christians disagree on what it means to be saved. Some say once saved always saved, others say you are not saved unless you continue walking with God.

Suddenly my faith, which should provide me with comfort, has become a source of pain and anguish. I have at times wished that I was a unbeliever, at least they can console themselves with wishful thinking. But I am confronted with a terror that defies expression, that my beloved son may be tormented for all eternity with no chance of forgiveness. How can I carry on serving a God who would do such a thing? How could I continue to love a God who would take the son that I love and torture him in eternal hell? It would have been better that I had never had any children than to have risked the chance of such a fate happening to them. If what I have been taught all of my christian life is true, I have been duped by God, as he either planned to damn David forever or he knew he would be and still let my wife and I produce him. The thought is ghastly. I know the deep pain and loss I feel. Is it really possible that I love my son more than God does? And what about my other 3 children? None of them are walking with God. How could I survive if the same thing happens to one of them?

I sometimes wish that I would go to sleep and never wake up. I miss David so much. I cannot talk to my wife about my concerns as she is distressed enough as it is. I have never needed to believe the doctrine of UR as much as I do now. If what the Calvinists say is true, I would rather die cursing God than spend eternity with one who could inflict such a thing on my beloved son. I so want to believe in UR, but there is a nagging doubt in my head. Why has the church rejected the doctrine, if it is true, for so many years? And yet I find it hard to believe that God who I have known and served for so many years would do such a thing as torment my son forever.


Paul

[laren]

Paul,

My heart goes out to you and your family. 

Hopefully you can believe and see that the love you have for your son is no different than the love God has for your son.  He is LOVE.

I have gotten where I don't even care about universal salvation anymore, to me it's often another doctrine.  But LOVE in my opinion is TRUTH.   

Love never fails. 

Praying for you.

 

[WhiteWings]

Paul,

Very sad story.
I don't believe for 1 second his love for true music has put his soul in danger.
"his kind caring nature" Isn't that exactly what Jesus thaught?
Before I even heard on UR I never believed all those hell stories. Just take a few steps back and look at the big picture of the Bible. Love your neighbour. Help. Do good. Respect. Don't steal etc. An God contstantly stating he is a caring father. To summarize: love
And that same God goes to tortuture 95% of humanity for eternity. That never did add up for me. You just have to read the Bible. Not even stufy and link verses. Add to that that according to some all infants go to hell too because they never choose Jesus. That's just insane to me.
What about all kind of people that truely never heard of Jesus. Not one word. All to hell too?
And that is just none religious reasoning. But does that make it wrong? I think not because our reasoning is implanted in our brain by God. Surely many ignore that. But still there are many people living godly or ungodly life having a good sense of right or wrong. So my belief is that to a certain extent you can use that reasoning to figure out how God will judge. And that is very far from eternal torture.

Then of course there is the Bible itself. But you wrote you already looked at this site and read some of articles. So there is no need to repeat what you have already read...

About the doctrines... well for starters the Bible states many will follow false doctrines. That could very well mean all main stream stuff is false. Personally I think the founding of many doctrines wasn't always purely about religion. Lot of politics and just plain powerhunger behavior and controlling the masses.
Before I ask you a question let me make very clear I'm still half atheist and this site is my first serious step to the light so to speak.
I see many people here discussing not only by quoting verses but also studying the meaning of the words behind the verses. Several verses even command you to study. So my question to you is does teh church you attend to really study verses or just 'follow the leader' or have 'memorize the verses' competitions without really knowing the meaning?
I could be wrong, but you seem to be a bit scared that you get under the bad influence. But what can be wrong and dangerous is studying Gods word?

[Molly]

Dear Paul, I'm so sorry for the loss of your beautiful son.  I watched some of the videos and he is clearly talented--and was also happy, surrounded by friends, and loved.   Twenty-five is such a young age in many ways, but they see themselves as grown up and finished at that age, whereas they are just starting.

I haven't really studied UR a whole lot because it is basically irrelevant to me, so others can talk to you about that.  It is irrelevant to me because I trust God.  I trust Jesus.  I am fully aware of how much he loves us.  You are made in his image, he made you and he knows you,  do you think he would love your son any less than you do?

9Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?

10Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?

11If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

I also believe that as Jesus covers us, we act as a covering for all our loved ones whom some would say are 'unsaved.'  There are many indications for this in the Old Testament.  When God makes his covenant with Abraham, all around Abraham become immediate participants, even his servants are circumcised.

Genesis 17:10
This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.


When God saves Noah for his righteousness, all of Noah's immediate family are likewise saved.

Genesis 6

18But I will establish My covenant (promise, pledge) with you, and you shall come into the ark--you and your sons and your wife and your sons' wives with you.



Lot and his family are saved from the fire, not because Lot is such a fine specimen of righteousness, but because of Abraham.   Rahab's entire family is saved because of her deeds in helping Joshua and his men.

Joshua 6

25So Joshua saved Rahab the harlot, with her father's household and all that she had; and she lives in Israel even to this day, because she hid the messengers whom Joshua sent to spy out Jericho.

Moses is the clearest example of this, standing in the gap between God and the Israelites.  Like Moses, I believe we, too, stand in the gap, making that connection for others who cannot or will not. God will provide, as he provided the ram to Abraham.   My entire family with a few exceptions (a remnant) do not even believe in God.  But I know God and He knows me.  He knows I would rather stop existing than be separated forever from those I love and have loved.  And, I know He will not do that to me.  Don't worry, Paul, you will be comforted in this life,  and you will be reunited with David again in the next.



2And God spake unto Israel in the visions of the night, and said, Jacob, Jacob. And he said, Here am I.

3And he said, I am God, the God of thy father: fear not to go down into Egypt; for I will there make of thee a great nation:

4 I will go down with thee into Egypt; and I will also surely bring thee up again: and Joseph shall put his hand upon thine eyes.



29And Joseph made ready his chariot, and went up to meet Israel his father, to Goshen, and presented himself unto him; and he fell on his neck, and wept on his neck a good while.

30And Israel said unto Joseph, Now let me die, since I have seen thy face, because thou art yet alive.



--Genesis 6

[pneuma]

Hi Paul, so sorry for your loss, Father strengthen Paul and his family in you LOVE.

Paul here is a set of scriptures I like to point out to others as they deal with the mainstream church teachings of today.

Luke 9:51-56
51 And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up,  he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem, 52 And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him. 53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. 54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. 56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

If you reread those scriptures in them you will see those the REJECTED Christ, you will see the FUTURE CHURCH (as seen in James and John) asking Jesus to let them call down FIRE to CONSUME those who REJECTED Christ, and you will see Jesus REBUKE them (the future church) and say YE KNOW NOT WHAT MANNER OF SPIRIT YE ARE OF, I did not come to DESTROY but to SAVE.


The churches of today do not know what manner of spirit they are of.

Rest assured Paul you son is in the arms of the Father.




As for the Calvinist belief ,I don't know whether you are or were of that belief, but if so here is a link to my rebuttal of one who follows that belief. Hopefully it is of some help to you in seeing that Christ is surely the victor.



http://www.tentmaker.org/forum/index.php?topic=2866.0


God bless

[Pierac]

Scripture refers to our God as our Father.  There is a reason for this.  :thumbsup:

Is it really possible that I love my son more than God does? And what about my other 3 children? None of them are walking with God. How could I survive if the same thing happens to one of them?

John teaches God is Love, Love that never ceases. And His mercy is with out end!

I like it the way Thomas Talbott, puts it in the book "Universal Salvation? The Current Debate", he states, The whole thrust of Jesus's teaching, moreover, pointed in the same direction. He categorically rejected the prevailing understanding of the retaliatory justice."

Mat 5:38  "You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if anyone would sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. And if anyone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42 Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. ,
the prevailing understanding of limited forgiveness...
Mat 18:21  Then Peter came up and said to him, "Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?" 22  Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you seven times, but seventy times seven.
and the prevailing understanding of a limited obligation to love
Mat 5:43  "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45  so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Why, according to Jesus, are we to love our enemies as well as our friends? So that we might be perfect even as our Father in heaven is perfect. Why should there be no limit to our forgiveness?  So that we might be perfect as even our Father in heaven is perfect. Why must we forsake retaliation of a retributivist kind?  So that we might be perfect for even as our Father in heaven is perfect.  As I see it, then, we have here overwhelming evidence that God, as Jesus understood him, never ceases to love his own enemies, never ceases forgiving them, and sees no ultimate justice in punishment of the retributivist kind. The idea that we are expected to be better than God is unthinkable.

Our mightiest telescopes through which our astronomers gaze cannot begin to pierce the length and breadth of this universe which God in His omnipotent power has created. We cannot in our finite minds begin to comprehend the power of Him who can create the Milky Way or even the solar system we know. And yet, as limitless and infinite as the power and omnipotence of God is, even so limitless is HIS LOVE. It is without measure and without boundary. It is absolutely illimitable. When we speak of God's attributes we may say, and many do, that God is a Spirit, infinite, eternal and unchangeable in His being, wisdom, power, holiness, justice, goodness and truth. This is a very beautiful definition; but it largely defines only God's attributes, whereas the text, "God is Love," tells us WHAT HE HIMSELF IS. This text reveals His nature, His state of being. For instance, in speaking of justice, we know that God has justice as one of His attributes, but He is not justice; God IS love. This fact gives us a revelation of GOD'S VERY NATURE.

I'm Sorry for your lost, keep searching for the truth, don't let tradition take away the joys of this limited life. Jesus came that you may have life, abudant life in the here and now too. Search the truth and this great burden can be lifted.

I want to share some writings I have found that have helped me...

Faith: Thinking or Acting?

Many Christians, particularly those ignorant of the Hebraic background of this word, understand faith mainly as an activity of the mind.  For these Christians, to "believe" or "have faith" is largely a matter of intellectual assent to some proposition.  The Hebrews, however, looked at faith differently.

The verb aman is one of the terms used in the Hebrew Bible for "believe," "trust," or "have faith." The term is sometimes translated "support," "nourish," "confirm," "make firm," or "make lasting."  The word omenet, "nurse" (Ruth 4:16) and the word omenot, "pillars," "supports of the door" (2 Kings 18:16), also derived from the verb aman.
A more frequent cognate term is emunah, often translated "faithfulness" or "trust."  In various contexts this word conveys the idea of "firmness" or "steadfastness," or it may indicate constancy, stability, steadiness, reliability, and support.  This meaning is clearly borne out in Exodus 17:12, where we read about God bringing victory to Israel against the Amalekites -as long as Moses holds up his hands.  But the hands of Moses grew tired, so Aaron and Hur held his hands up, and "his hands remained emunah until sundown."  In this passage, emunah carries the idea of steadiness or firmness, and accordingly, this meaning set the tone for the succeeding occurrences of the term.

When emunah is used of God, it usually points to his utter dependability and unwavering faithfulness: the term is often associated with God's words (Psalms 119:86) or attributes such as mercy. Emunah is also used of human beings. In these contexts, it often refers to those who have the capacity to remain stable (i.e., faithful) amid the unsettling circumstances of life, realizing God's truth has established them (Psalms 119:30).  One of the most pivotal passages in the Hebrew Bible is where emunah is used is Habakkuk 2:4: "the righteous will live by his faith [emunah]."  This text was later quoted by Paul (Rom. 1:17; Gal. 3:11) and eventually became the battle cry of
the Reformation.  But we must first consider the original context. Habakkuk's people were about to fall on hard times, for God would be using one nation to punish another.  This situation would require a deeply rooted reliance on God, especially his justice and his wisdom in running the universe.  Stability and support were needed if God's people were to outlast and survive the impending "day of calamity" (3:16-17).  We observed in that emunah, as Leo Baeck has stated, in his book The Essence of Judaism p.119.  The "inner firmness and peace, the strength and constancy of man's soul."

Many places in Scriptures, however, indicate that the biblical idea of faithfulness was not always practiced by God's people. Yet when their sin caused them to face circumstances as grim as the destruction of Jerusalem and exile, even then Jeremiah, weeping, affirm to the Lord, "Great is your faithfulness [emunah]" (Lam. 3:23). To the Hebrew mind, therefore, faith meant confidence.  It was the capacity to "enter life with courageous expectation." The person of faith did more than believe in his heart or develop an attitude of trust.  He stepped out into life to act on that belief.  His mental assurance and convictions were transformed into action.  For the Hebrew, faith was more than a theory; it was wed to a life of service.  Indeed, the Hebrew could serve God through work.  He knew that God was always met in history, in the context of events, in the world of activity and doing. The person of faith was one who was so committed to God that, like Abraham, he ventured into the unknown with the full expectation that God would meet him there.  Thus, in the biblical sense, to have faith was to move out in life and know God would be there waiting.  It was "the call to step boldly into tomorrow, to embrace the new-with confidence that every new day would prove to be a meeting place with the Holy and eternal God.  The opposite of faith was to cling desperately to yesterday, fearing that if one ever left it, one would leave God." This is the Hebraic and biblical model of faith.  As Abraham Heschel has pithily stated, it requires "a leap of action rather than a leap of thought."  Again, in the polarity of expression that often characterizes Heschel, "faith is not a state of passivity... it is an enterprise, not inertia." We must stress that this emphasis is clearly in accord with the New Testament teaching that "faith, by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead" (Jas. 2:17).  Biblical faith, though conscious of heaven, operates in, and his only at home in, the realm of flesh and blood.  Removed from the sphere of the angels, such faith confronts idols and addresses the in humanities and injustices of a sin-plagued world. This biblical quality of faith has the possibility of transforming this life so that those thereby changed may attain, by God's grace, of the life to come.


Peace,
Paul

[willieH]

willieH: Hi Paul... [kaazoom]... :hithere:

I join in empathy for the loss of your son...  It is so hard to bear such a loss... may GOD be with you an continue to strengthen you each day, instilling in you that HE has control and PURPOSE in all events, hard though they are to bear...

I have a comment on a portion of your post:

Hi Eve
So what has happened to David? If what I have always believed is true there is a good chance that he will be tormented in hell for eternity. Of course, Christians disagree on what it means to be saved. Some say once saved always saved, others say you are not saved unless you continue walking with God.

ALL men are brought forth by GOD to the life they experience here on earth with HIS TOTAL knowledge of that experience BEFORE it takes place...

Why would a LOVING GOD bring forth a life, knowing that it was destined for HELL?  :mshock: 

Well, the TRUTH is that HE WOULDN'T do such a thing...  :cloud9:

EVERY LIFE is destined for HEAVEN... which NOT a location, but rather, is ETERNITY with YHVH GOD...

If our SALVATION ...depended upon us, in our efforts, to continue to walk with GOD, then are we not SAVING OURSELVES?  And if it takes HIS LOVE and POWER to "walk with Him" and we do not... is it not STILL HIS AFFAIR and DECISION?

If JESUS CHRIST is the "author and finisher" of OUR FAITH (and He IS!) (Heb 12:2)  How is it "UP to US to "author and finish" that faith?

Furthermore, if HE does NOT RESPECT (prefer by partiality) one PERSON over another (which He does NOT) (Rom 2:11 / Acts 10:34 / 2 Sam 14:14 / Eph 6:9)... Does He not thereby obligate Himself to do for ONE, that which HE DOES (author & finish FAITH) for ANOTHER?

Suddenly my faith, which should provide me with comfort, has become a source of pain and anguish. I have at times wished that I was a unbeliever, at least they can console themselves with wishful thinking. But I am confronted with a terror that defies expression, that my beloved son may be tormented for all eternity with no chance of forgiveness. How can I carry on serving a God who would do such a thing? How could I continue to love a God who would take the son that I love and torture him in eternal hell? It would have been better that I had never had any children than to have risked the chance of such a fate happening to them. If what I have been taught all of my christian life is true, I have been duped by God, as he either planned to damn David forever or he knew he would be and still let my wife and I produce him. The thought is ghastly. I know the deep pain and loss I feel. Is it really possible that I love my son more than God does? And what about my other 3 children? None of them are walking with God. How could I survive if the same thing happens to one of them?

Hey PAUL.. KNOW this:  GOD is IN CONTROL of ALL THINGS... and is WORKING ALL THINGS according to His WISE and POWERFUL will (Eph 1:11)

HELL is the GOD-AWFUL and BLASPHEMOUS representation of our LOVING FATHER... (to tell the truth, it makes me want to puke  :eeew:) and your SON is not only destined for JOY, but a WONDERFUL part of that JOY is his reuniting with YOU and your family, FOREVER!

I sometimes wish that I would go to sleep and never wake up. I miss David so much. I cannot talk to my wife about my concerns as she is distressed enough as it is. I have never needed to believe the doctrine of UR as much as I do now. If what the Calvinists say is true, I would rather die cursing God than spend eternity with one who could inflict such a thing on my beloved son. I so want to believe in UR, but there is a nagging doubt in my head. Why has the church rejected the doctrine, if it is true, for so many years? And yet I find it hard to believe that God who I have known and served for so many years would do such a thing as torment my son forever.

FEW there shall be that find the TRUTH of the GOSPEL brother... the MANY are spoken of OFTEN, as the ones headed for a destructive judgment... (even so, which shall end up positive -- Is 26:9 / Is 25:8 / Ps 33:13-15)

RELIGION is the monster of BABYLON, and it has created the FEARFUL teaching of HELL which the WORD says, has NO PART in LOVE dear brother Paul... (1 John 4:18)

peacE...
willieH  :icon_king:

[kaazoom]

Thank you for all of the love and concern everyone has shown me. I have much to think about. I have been reading DOES THE "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED" DOCTRINE BRING SECURITY TO STRUGGLING CHRISTIANS? by Charles Slagle. I have found it very helpful. I will need to go over it again and look at it in more detail.


Paul

[Gabe Grinstead]

I hope God brings you the healing and peace of mind that you need.  I hope to God that he does not put me through that... I don't think I could bare it.  The loss of any of my children would leave me depressed for years, angry and bitter at God.  Obviously, I am not ready to go through such a trial as my maturity in God isn't high enough where I could accept such a thing... No parent wants to bury their children.  Does the pain subside ever?

[Zoe]

Dear Paul

My husband David and I joined this forum today and your post was the first one we opened. We were so saddened to read of the death of your son David. I am sure that the shock, sorrow and loss you, your wife and family are experiencing at the moment is indescribable. We watched the video clip you made in memory of David and it is a wonderful tribute to your talented and much loved son.

We have great comfort to tell you. Comfort which is 100% scriptural. Yes, Jesus Christ is indeed the Great Saviour of the world, as stated in the Bible. Your cherished son David is at present in a peaceful sleep with his spirit safe in God's keeping until the resurrection of the dead, when your son will rise in his new immortal body. God knows who will be in the First Resurrection (His Elect Bride), which happens at the return of Jesus Christ and who will be in the Second Resurrection which will occur at the end of Christ's Millennial Kingdom on earth. God will ensure that in Adam all die and in Christ all shall be made alive, but each in his own order as given in 1 Corinthians 15: 22-23. God is love and all will be reconciled to God through the blood of the cross  (Colossians 1:15-20) Many wonder how this will happen. Please read our book, which we have been writing for the past four years to see how God is working out his wonderful plan to save all people and that includes your son David.

Our book is called God's Plan For All and it is available for all to read online free of charge. We have also published it in paperback hard copy just this month and you can order it direct from our website - also free of charge except for a small shipping fee. www.godsplanforall.com If you send us your address details via the 'Contact Us' link on our website, then David and I would be very pleased to send you our book completely free without the shipping fee. We believe that you will be greatly encouraged as you read about God's wonderful plan and love for David. You will most definitely see him again with great rejoicing in glory.

We also live in the UK and we would be very pleased to make contact with you if you wish.

God bless

Zoe

[HappyBoy!]

Thank you for all of the love and concern everyone has shown me. I have much to think about. I have been reading DOES THE "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED" DOCTRINE BRING SECURITY TO STRUGGLING CHRISTIANS? by Charles Slagle. I have found it very helpful. I will need to go over it again and look at it in more detail.

Paul

I too am deeply sorry for your loss.

Charles Slagle's writings really helped me early on and I still refer to them.  I actually met him at a conference in Oklahoma several months ago.  My path to believing UR is similar to his, though not nearly as extreme.  You can find more of his writings here:  http://sigler.org/slagle

I'm 40 and came to believe UR about a year ago.  It's been quite a change from the fundamentalist teachings I'd been involved with since my childhood.  I still have doubts from time-to-time, but they are only fleeting.  I've observed that my doubts crop up when I read man's opinion, not when I read the Bible.

I was concerned that somehow I'd be drawn away and enticed like we are always warned about, but I can tell you my love for God has increased as has my desire to read the Bible and I've not run off into a lifestyle of sin.

I wish you well with your studies and pray that God guides you in truth and love.

Welcome to the forum. 

[albertx46]

Hi Paul,

I'm deeply sorry for the loss of your beautiful son. Yet I have faith that as you go on probing into the matter on UR, you will find tranquil rest in God's salvation for everyone. Since my careful scrutiny of the arguments presented here, I've been pretty sure I'll have reunion in heavens with my deceased grandma and grandpa who were nice guys but not Christians.

Let me humbly quote a couple of prayers from Dr. Norman V. Peale's singular book Enthusiasm Makes the Difference:

Peace I give unto you... Let not your heart be troubled.
Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee.
My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest.
Rest in the Lord, and wait perfectly for him: fret not thyself.
Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Let the peace of God rule in your heart.
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: He leadth me beside the still waters. He restoreth my soul.

He would give you peace as you know more about his character of Love.

God bless.