Hi my name is Matthew.
I found this website on a forum when looking for some 'real' Christians to interact with... So I decided to give it a try, because I seem to not get along with most people... (ie have a real aversion and frustration and tend to not want to deal with their different views)
I am a believer in Jesus Christ and am 23 years old..
And I seem to almost have a strange "spiritual disposition"... It's NOT that I can't understand or communicate about things, but I tend to have difficulty accepting certain things people consider 'normal', yet excel in certain things that people tend to not easily understand.. For some reason I feel like I have an emotional instinct like an animal... When I was about 9 I went to individualized, but soon afterwards went to normal class but could never excel much. Later I studied at home but needed special attention because emotionally I just felt I needed it. I tend to 'test' people, because I'm not comfortable with being around people who aren't loving... I love listening to Mongolian music, and seem to have a very unique preference for music. I hold on to things, people would call me 'stubborn'. I also am into permaculture and have a garden full of herbs and exotic multifunctional plants. But recently I've been feeling depressed a lot and unfulfilled in certain ways...
That's kind of why I'm on this forum.
Also, I made this blog, but since it didn't get many views yet, I'm posting it here because I want to see if anyone can help me find any problems with my point of view on the bible.. I hope there are some real Christians here with faith whom actually try to understand and practice the teachings of Jesus and the New Testament. Because that would be nice, I think. My philosophy is created from years of interacting with my small family and us trying to understand the bible and really apply it to our lives.
http://askthatinecclesia.blogspot.com/
Please remember, my blog posts aren't meant to be taken as utter fact, but rather my thoughts about the bible, jotted down with the hope to be corrected about any of my mistakes... Thanks, nice to meet you.
Matthew
Oh one more thing-- my personality seems to tend to be a bit 'abrasive'... so please bear with me if you will... I tend to not feel something is worth doing until it is slightly uncomfortable, but then later on change my 'mode' and see my previous post and feel too uncomfortable with it-- I don't understand my mind why it's like that. The best way to deal with me is probably to remember that I don't mean any harm with my words... Basically, maybe just think of me as almost from a different culture and having a different social structure along with a both abrasive and gentle personality. I feel like a warrior. Yet I also feel like I'm too spiritual. I feel like an oddity. But I'm sure this post came out kind of awkward sounding and not quite what I meant it to seem like...
anyways what do you think.....? Can I make some friends here?
Howdy BlueGecko
Sure, you will do fine.
In a lot of ways many of us are in the same boat as you.
Call um like you see um!
ed
Greeting Blue Geceko
I read your post and did not see your blog , yet
But hope you dont take any offence , with any of us
We all seem to be a pretty harmonious group right now
and Hope you can share your God given thoughts as we can also share and learn together
I love my spiritual family here , they are as close as family to me .
God bless you and yours BG
Hello, Matthew, and welcome! :friendstu: I'll take a look at that blog... :Chinscratch:
just came back and saw the replies. (And hid the most recent post on my blog, realized I made a few embarrassing mistakes on it....)
Um... ok where shall I start... looks like there are some friendly people here on this forum....... ehem*
Early on in my childhood I was taught some basics about God and to obey my parents and etc. ... but at first there was a lot of stuff we didn't understand in the bible, and it seemed slightly 'boring' at some times... but we later started realizing that God's Word applies to our ENTIRE lives.
Quote:
But He answered and said, "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.' " Matt 4:4
And we also learned that God hides His great mysteries from the unbelieving.
Some people tend to think that because 'nothing seemed to happen' after a prayer, that, God did not react according to it-- But I think it is rather quite the opposite, that ALL things that happen in this world ARE actually fulfilling His will-- And that no prayer worth answering was not prepared to be appropriately answered since the beginning of time. --The topic I'm getting into is what I'd like to describe as "spiritual physics." Kind of like how "what goes up, must come down", except with the spiritual world.
'Are not two sparrows sold for a copper coin? And not one of them falls to the ground apart from your Father's will. But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.' Matt 10:29-30
'And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words. Therefore do not be like them. For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him.' Matt 6:7-8
To me, learning about the real world tends to help strengthen my faith in God, I think. As I begin to see patterns that play out according to God's Word. As even science is man's OBSERVATION of the result of God's Word, rather than vice versa.
Also I'd like to add, I don't like to talk about this much to other people but, since this is supposed to be a forum of believers and I think it might be useful for some people to know-- I've had some experience with qigong and found that the invisible qi-forces are real-- it's NOT just like 'electricity' like some people tend to think. (as did I also, at first) But it's kind of complex and freaky at some times-- Well.... hmm how shall I say it, I was doing a lot of research and experimentation and finally stimulated my Dantien, allowing me to feel forces outside my body.... Thankfully with a lot of prayer I'm starting to feel more 'normal' again, and I want to post info here to help other people not make the same mistake with qigong.... um and on top of me not having much social-practice, the qi-stuff I was doing has given me a kind of headache so I'm having a little bit difficulty concentrating on writing this post, actually.... OK, so see near the bottom of my blog posts are 2 related to me Qi experiences, they actually seem quite supernatural... (um moment should come back to this forum when my headache feels a bit better)
(Oh here are the links)
This page was when I first stimulated my dantien and was having a lot of difficulty concentrating on things:
http://askthatinecclesia.blogspot.com/2013/08/my-thoughts-about-energy-work.html
Here is a later page about Qi:
http://askthatinecclesia.blogspot.com/2013/10/is-qigong-or-yoga-spiritual-and-is-any.html
actually at first I was trying to make that post as a reply to this guy's page about qigong: http://dontaskthatinchurch.blogspot.com/2010/09/qigong-good-bad-or-ugly.html (see the 'dont ask that in church' and my blog is called 'ask that in ecclesia'?)
anyhow, I've done a lot of research about Qigong if anyone has any questions I'd like to try to answer them-- BUT I don't really suggest getting SUPER deep into qigong...
:cloud9: Hi and welcome to the forum. I hope you find what you are looking for here. For sure you have found what you need.
I did read one of your pages about the "qi", and although I had no knowledge of what it was called, I have heard and personally known people who dabbled in it. One of them is now deceased. He was a few years younger than you, 17 to be exact, had a football scholarship to Notre Dame, and likely would have had a professional sports career after it. He was his father's pride and joy.
Unfortunately, his life was stolen from him, because his well-meaning parents didn't have a clue what he was messing with, since after all, kundalini yoga was offered at the local center, so it must be ok, right? Your first clue that's it's not of the right spirit, should be the part about releasing the "serpent", something about the 7 chakras or power centers do, once activated?
Young man, I'm going to speak direct to you, and I hope and pray you really are a warrior and you do fight back. Not at me, but at what is trying to take control over you. You have opened a door to your soul that should have remained closed, to a form of witchcraft. It comes as an angel of light, because it appears to do something good for you, but it's simply a more esoteric, "principled" appearing form of witchcraft than the garden variety so-called white or black magic. But it's every bit as deadly, both to your soul, and to you, as a whole.
Satan fell because he wanted to usurp the Spirit and throne of God, and he wanted power. The lust for power is instilled in man because of this. These Eastern religions exalt man and the power of the soul within man, that is strengthened to it's own destruction, by the dark spiritual forces that are invited in.
All of the "attributes" of releasing this "qi", that you listed, are examples of demonic infestation and manipulation of people and their surroundings. If you don't believe me, compare the two. I have seen levitations of children from off the floor, whose parents were from Haiti and they dabbled in voodoo, as the LORD was setting them free from that generational curse. I have also participated in deliverances of people from these types of spirits, and it was nothing to see things fly off the walls and across the room.
Witchcraft is at it's root, rebellion, and I advise strongly that you repent of rebellion (you will likely find yourself enraged at this statement, BUT: IT IS NOT YOU THAT IS ENRAGED) and idolatry and ask the Lord for forgiveness for opening this door. Your body is meant to be the temple of the Holy Ghost, do not allow these principalities to make it a den of thieves.
The enemy comes not but to kill, steal, and destroy. The Lord comes to give you power (HIS power which is ONLY good), love, and a sound mind. The confusion you mention comes from idolatry. His Spirit gives you a sound mind. The power you are seeking is so beneath what the Lord wants to give you to set His creation free, it is literally as different as night from day. Do not accept any substitutions!
My prayer is with you and for you. Blessings and :HeartThrob: from my Father and YOUR Father....
Hi Matthew: I have read your first and your other posts and the only thought that kept/keeps coming to my mind and heart since I read that you are a believer in Jesus Christ and 23 years old is a beautiful prayer from Ephesians 1:15-19 ... a prayer I will be repeating often and whenever your name comes to mind
...since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I never stop giving thanks for you as I remember you in my prayers. I pray that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, would give you A SPIRIT OF WISDOM AND REVELATION IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF HIM. I pray that the perception of your mind MAY BE ENLIGHTENED SO THAT YOU MAY KNOW WHAT IS THE HOPE OF HIS CALLING, WHAT ARE THE GLORIOUS RICHES OF HIS INHERITANCE AMONG THE SAINTS, AND WHAT IS THE IMMEASURABLE GREATNESS OF HIS POWER TO US WHO BELIEVE, ACCORDING TO THE WORKING OF HIS VAST STRENGTH.
Hi Matthew,
I have read through a portion of your blog and found it to be very enjoyable and full of good honest questions asked well and explored in an open and interesting way. I think it is wonderful that you would share the adventure of your faith with others in such a way that they could find some their own questions shared by another, and approached in such a humble and interesting manner. Welcome to Tentmaker, John
Thanks John, anna274, and Cardinal for your words and prayers...
Actually, Cardinal, I do believe there are spiritual forces trying to sway me, (daily) but I believe that that actually happens to everyone (despite practicing qigong or not)... And yes I do believe a lot of qigong TENDS attract evil spirits whom would like to 'play around' with such people who believe qi-powers are real-- But I still Don't believe ALL Qi is evil..... (That is where there is a lot of confusion, I think... Because I have observed nature and and found that invisible forces are entirely natural and even necessary for everyday functions of plants and animals.... ) --That's kind of why I really want to discuss it here.... It's a bit confusing.
Um for instance, my family has been into herbal medicine for years (before any qigong) and thus observed many 'patterns' that the herbs naturally produce in people... And there is a book of what meridian points are stimulated by different herbs, so one can press the points if no herbs are available... MY THEORY is that 'Qi' is the bridge between the spirit and the body-- so that perhaps evil spirits are "ONE STEP ABOVE Qi" so that Qigong master's cannot easily detect them.
ALTHOUGH, HERE IS THE ISSUE with qigong-- It's a vast unknown, and qigong masters that deny this are in the dark.
Recently I learned from a Western scientist (Rupert Sheldrake) that dogs and other animals are naturally (slightly) psychic... (although I haven't tested it myself yet) And also that the DNA supposedly can't possibly hold all the information for forming the entire organism, so that an invisible 'biomorphic-field' must do so instead, supposedly....
Also I think it was Judy Wood that had a video about tornadoes sometimes energetically throwing several ton trucks into the air.... Also the moon pulls up the ocean tides and static-electricity naturally can 'stick' into your fingers and pull up materials-- Our bodies are highly conductive and people are finding all kinds of 'technologies' in nature and in our bodies that we didn't know existed-- The point I'm trying to make is, I Don't think ALL energy dealings with our bodies are evil... I mostly think that too many people are messing around with energies that are too far out of their understanding (and a lot of times excessive and unnecessary) and since they are not spiritually mature enough tend to be eventually screwed-up by it...
ALTHOUGH, yeah I can't seem to figure out whether or not any of the energy in my body is demonic or not.... And recently for the past few days I've been praying a lot about it and kind of learning to 'convert' my arms a little bit more back to normal.... What happens is when I feel stressed, I can feel 'Qi' flooding into my head and dantien, so I press points to release (or 'purge') it.... When Qi floods into my arm muscles it moves 'effortlessly' but feels very weird... Although weighing myself on the scale I seem to still weigh the same.... I also felt Qi from various plants and (early on) sucked up some 'plant Qi' into my 3 dantiens.... Now I've been listening to some music to remind me how I felt before all this qigong-mess and purging and converting the qi in my lower and middle dantiens to "more normal qi", that is sending the "old me feelings" into my hands and into my dantien-- Also trying to make an exact 'reverse' flow of qi so that it (hopefully) goes back where it came from....
But Lol... my dantien feels less 'full' now, thankfully... and after purging and normalizing a lot of qi my mind feels more at peace (feeling more like I'm actually alive again, or, present). but my dantien still won't completely 'turn off'... when I bend backwards my abdomen involuntarily tightens like a rock... Yes I want to feel normal again.. even if it was all natural I mostly only originally wanted to aid some healing in my body and others-- BUT I never wanted to be stuck feeling qi. Lol It was a crazy adventure learning about these things that I thought didn't even exist.. (incredible... it's been about a year since I became stuck like this...) Thank God that I didn't get Qigong-deviation, prayed a lot about this..... and I had practically nobody guiding me through all this, and had to frantically research while I had a bad headache and couldn't concentrate much..... Actually I was undergoing some extreme depression when I started studying Qi like crazy.... didn't worship Qi, just thought it was natural... at first....
Hi BG......that's just it in a nutshell[12] with man and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. the nautural
man[first the natural] does well to observe and name natural forces,let alone the unseen powers and principalities.
man's learning by trial and error...without the Holy spirit as guide and teacher.......can get him in a 'fix'.
in the natural...man learns 'down the road' the toxicity of some things that at first thought as 'good/beneficial
for instance..actual cocaine in coca-cola soft drinks...radiation as a touted health-inducing substance
In the garden,God would bring each creature to Adam..for him to observe the 'nature/properties' of such
and 'know/name' it. To name something was to get 'dominion over it" the tree of the knowledge of good and
evil's fruit..at first seemed 'beneficial and good for making one wise" it's evil componet..was not realized
until after the fact. the subtility of the serpent..over any beast of the feild...appearing as an angel/messenger
of light[beneficial to make one wise] can only be overcome through the spirit of Christ. He has redeemed
us back from the painful consequences of that learning by trial and error,though in the natural man is often
not spared from the consequences...He see's to it that the eternal consequences are 'null and void" O'death
I shall be thy plague.
sometimes we haave to learn the 'hard way'sometimes example's of other's who suffered the consequences
the 'hard way' are enough for us. Obeying Him..or listening to Him..as our guide and teacher is the best for
us..and realizing that He has our 'best' interests at heart.......
I know that every perfect gift and present is from above[Him] and if we ask for an 'egg' He will not give
us a serpent. There is a time when all the nations will say...'Let us go up to the Mountain of the Lord and He
will teach us His ways" He alone holds dominion over everything[death] and it is enough for us to be like Him
TY so much for sharing your expierence,welcome to the forum!! :friendstu:
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ok, thanks for all the warm welcome helps make me feel "at home" here... might I ask how this forum is structured...? I mean, if I wish to create a thread to discuss things about the bible in general, where should that go?
:cloud9: Hi and welcome back......probably "Christian Life" section would be the most suitable section. Blessings....