Great site Tentmaker, a wealth of resources! Thanks & hi to all. :Peace2:
:newb: :welcome: Welcome Jester from down under , Hope that means Australia
and not any lower than that lol :laughhand:
Welcome, Jester! You have added yourself to our greatest wealth of resources - our members! :friendstu:
By lower I do hope you mean further south... :laugh:
Yes, Gold Coast Queensland Australia...east coast mid way up or down which ever way you look at it...lol
Only a newb to Universal Salvation, been a roller coaster through Christendom like many I presume...a breath of fresh air from the religious dogma I have only ever known...
Thanks for the welcome messages... :thumbsup:
Quote from: Jester on February 11, 2014, 12:12:47 PM
............Universal Salvation........a breath of fresh air from the religious dogma I have only ever known...
Thanks for the welcome messages... :thumbsup:
Me too Jester.
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Me three, ed. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
BTW, Jester, did you notice yet that we have an emoticon just {jest?} for you: :icon_jokercolor: ?
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Love it! Thanks for pointing that out...
Folks may I ask for some direction on the site as I search for some answers to some areas of theology I have trouble with? Namely, a guide to interpret the OT in light of man's perception of God through the ages...Jesus, Abba Father; our God of Love, so how do we reconcile the flood, death etc as written in the OT?
It is hard to let go of the thought that the bible is our rule book of authority in which every word is to be used to correct others and live 'religious' lives....rather a collection of manuscripts giving evidence of how God was perceived by men throughout the ages of civilisation..sometimes they got it right, sometimes they got it wrong??
The flood is a stumbling block for me...still out of Love for men He wipes out the population does seem a play on words! I can hear the help on its way...lol, and thanks in advance, I will surely learn to navigate thru all the posts and articles soon enough.
God bless and once again, thanks for the welcome....
Brenden :dsunny:
Jest , Hi there , Hope to help ,
Just put Flood in the upper right hand search box
I did and
I found this some one, music man put up on the forum
http://www.orange-street-church.org/text/noah-flood.htm (http://www.orange-street-church.org/text/noah-flood.htm)
I only read the first page ,
but its interesting
you may want to look into the Tentmaker resources page with loads of all matter of reading and watching material
Blessings in your searching
Thank you rosered...
I'll look into it; seems like my old calvinist pastor is doing all he can to urge me back into the 'get on board or else life-raft' and is so opposed to Universal salvation or anything to do with God just being Love...
I feel heavy in the chest when he preaches the doom and gloom of hellfire and our need to accept Christ's offer or else!...sickens me to the core - Love your God with ALL your heart, mind and soul...so what % of that ALL is left for fear, anxiety etc...
No matter how liberated I feel to have uncovered some truth (praise the Lord), I feel the claws of the system are attempting to pull me back into the protestant camp...
Kind regards & God bless...
Brenden :thumbsup:
Hi Brenden ,
I can most certainly empathize with you , been there and done that !
Hardest part was not wanting dissapoint the Lord God and be faithful to Him , but did not know how to please Him at all
Most confusing and fearful time of my life , sitting under the authority of the hell fire and brimstone preacher
Just keep praying and trusting God for an answer
Strange but true story , the Lord released me from going there
I had always believed God would do a perfect and complete work , always knew it , just did not know how The Lord would do it .
But always the prayer Lord I dont know how , but believe you will !!
During a rather harsh sermon , and heavy judgment on a poor soul whom was not at church but mowing his lawn , the preacher made him the example of the day
Well a voice plainly asked me do you believe this ?
I said No Lord , you can save anyone, anywhere at any time , YOU ARE GOD !
Than why are you here ?
I had no answer , ''speachless '' left and never looked back
God has blessed ever since
Do I love them still , Yes I sure do and desire nothing but good thing for them
But the Lord God freed me from Babylon [confusion ] and and took this broken and terrified heart under His wing and put a hunger and thirst within to KNOW HIM not just about Him .
My prayers are that for you as well , The Word and Spirit are not bound by any building or certain groups , the Lord is Mighty in His salvation !
I felt like one risen from the dead !
Jesus peace to you and yours !
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What a roller coaster thus far...yet something tells me my journey into truth is only just beginning.
The Lord crushed my self-righteous need for a theological pedestal...from catholicism to a calvinist/arminian protestant church, the Lord has only shown me the utter confusion of my attempts to gain truth from schools of men. The oppression I feel and heaviness in heart is what speaks loudly; the Lord and His Love for ALL men is what brings not only peace and joy but makes known the Nicodemus's of the world are still abound. I pray for the congregation who judge me for leaving the 'elect' fold, clearly i wasn't saved...sickens me to my core but love them all the same I do indeed.
Cheers :gimmefive:
Quote from: Jester on February 13, 2014, 04:43:35 AM
:iagree:
What a roller coaster thus far...yet something tells me my journey into truth is only just beginning.
The Lord crushed my self-righteous need for a theological pedestal...from catholicism to a calvinist/arminian protestant church, the Lord has only shown me the utter confusion of my attempts to gain truth from schools of men. The oppression I feel and heaviness in heart is what speaks loudly; the Lord and His Love for ALL men is what brings not only peace and joy but makes known the Nicodemus's of the world are still abound. I pray for the congregation who judge me for leaving the 'elect' fold, clearly i wasn't saved...sickens me to my core but love them all the same I do indeed.
Cheers :gimmefive:
Very cool.
Thanks for the encouragement.
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I like that gimmefirer there.
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Quote from: Jester on February 13, 2014, 04:43:35 AM
:iagree:
What a roller coaster thus far...yet something tells me my journey into truth is only just beginning.
The Lord crushed my self-righteous need for a theological pedestal...from catholicism to a calvinist/arminian protestant church, the Lord has only shown me the utter confusion of my attempts to gain truth from schools of men. The oppression I feel and heaviness in heart is what speaks loudly; the Lord and His Love for ALL men is what brings not only peace and joy but makes known the Nicodemus's of the world are still abound. I pray for the congregation who judge me for leaving the 'elect' fold, clearly i wasn't saved...sickens me to my core but love them all the same I do indeed.
Cheers :gimmefive:
You are just precious Brenden !! :thumbsup:
Well the JERUSALEM from above is the mother of us all :winkgrin:
remember Paul explains that so well in
Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,
Gal 4:20 I desire to be present with you now, and to change my voice; for I stand in doubt of you.
Gal 4:21 ΒΆ Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
Gal 4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
Gal 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
Gal 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and
answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and
is in bondage with her children. Gal 4:26
But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Gal 4:27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not:
for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
Gal 4:28 Now we, brethren,
as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
Gal 4:29
But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. Gal 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
Gal 4:31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman,
but of the free.
Jesus pleads with Jerusalem to gather them into Himself , all things will be Gathered into Christ and under His authority in the end , that is my greatest comfort to know and understand now :cloud9:
1Cr 15:28 And
when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him
that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. Luk 13:34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets,
and stonest them that are sent unto thee;
how often would I have gathered thy children together,
as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not! Our protector is in Our Lord God Almighty just to know, Its not what you can do for God,
but what God has done for us !! Making us all very thankful baby chicks :Peace2:
Quote from: ed on February 13, 2014, 05:06:28 AM
Quote from: Jester on February 13, 2014, 04:43:35 AM
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What a roller coaster thus far...yet something tells me my journey into truth is only just beginning.
The Lord crushed my self-righteous need for a theological pedestal...from catholicism to a calvinist/arminian protestant church, the Lord has only shown me the utter confusion of my attempts to gain truth from schools of men. The oppression I feel and heaviness in heart is what speaks loudly; the Lord and His Love for ALL men is what brings not only peace and joy but makes known the Nicodemus's of the world are still abound. I pray for the congregation who judge me for leaving the 'elect' fold, clearly i wasn't saved...sickens me to my core but love them all the same I do indeed.
Cheers :gimmefive:
Very cool.
Thanks for the encouragement.
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I like that gimmefirer there.
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Your a big blessing and encouragment Ed , as always !!
:friendstu: Blessings to you and yours