Was Paul Totally of HIS trolley when he stated Women shall be saved By childbearing~ did HE really mean~? women can only be saved By BEARING children
alas , the message of salvation would be only to WOMAN kind RIGHT? SALVATION ONLY FOR THOSE WHO BORE CHILDREN~?~ but so SAD for those who never or couldnt ~ and US POOR FELLAS havent got a Chance ~ ill Justt say poor Paul must have been totally of his his religious trolley~~~maybe smoking weed or somut?
what say say you Folks~ ~
Glad we have you Taffy. Selah.
Something from our beloved Cardinal:
Quote from: Cardinal on April 19, 2011, 07:18:49 PM
:cloud9: "He" (and He called THEIR name Adam) WAS a dead soul, until the life/breath of the Spirit came in. He has to create a vessel to manifest in and thru!
But that vessel is quickened or enlivened so the Spirit can manifest thru it, first with that measure of faith to receive Him, which is what the soul IS is. We grow from glory to glory, and the first glory we receive, is the LESSER GLORY (soul), who has no light (quickening) of it's own, but must receive (like seed is received) from the GREATER GLORY.
The natural bears this principle witness as ALL babies are female until a certain point in their gestation, when if He deems them to be male, they become male, as He forms us in our mother's womb. Well, in the spiritual sense, He forms us in our mother's womb also, taking the soul and so consuming it, that "she" eventually "becomes" a "he", in the sense that "he" is now the VISIBLE one. The invisible God desired visibility.
The fact there is neither male nor female in the Kingdom does not mean it's because there is NEITHER, but because there is BOTH, but one is hidden in the other. Christ was hidden in the bosom of the Father, and when He came He didn't just manifest as the Father in nature, but also manifested as the mother (wisdom) to those that had ears to hear, because she is hidden. And she is hidden, because carnal men put her to shame. Which is why, Joseph, a righteous man, started to hide away Mary, so that she would not be put to an open shame, ie. manifesting what he had "seen" His Father do. More on this, if I ever get the time, sigh....... :winkgrin:
Quote from: Beloved Servant on October 26, 2011, 05:07:18 AM
Something from our beloved Cardinal:
Quote from: Cardinal on April 19, 2011, 07:18:49 PM
:cloud9: "He" (and He called THEIR name Adam) WAS a dead soul, until the life/breath of the Spirit came in. He has to create a vessel to manifest in and thru!
But that vessel is quickened or enlivened so the Spirit can manifest thru it, first with that measure of faith to receive Him, which is what the soul IS is. We grow from glory to glory, and the first glory we receive, is the LESSER GLORY (soul), who has no light (quickening) of it's own, but must receive (like seed is received) from the GREATER GLORY.
The natural bears this principle witness as ALL babies are female until a certain point in their gestation, when if He deems them to be male, they become male, as He forms us in our mother's womb. Well, in the spiritual sense, He forms us in our mother's womb also, taking the soul and so consuming it, that "she" eventually "becomes" a "he", in the sense that "he" is now the VISIBLE one. The invisible God desired visibility.
The fact there is neither male nor female in the Kingdom does not mean it's because there is NEITHER, but because there is BOTH, but one is hidden in the other. Christ was hidden in the bosom of the Father, and when He came He didn't just manifest as the Father in nature, but also manifested as the mother (wisdom) to those that had ears to hear, because she is hidden. And she is hidden, because carnal men put her to shame. Which is why, Joseph, a righteous man, started to hide away Mary, so that she would not be put to an open shame, ie. manifesting what he had "seen" His Father do. More on this, if I ever get the time, sigh....... :winkgrin:
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The fact lays he spoke figurativly RIGHT~~ tIS THE simples### :icon_flower: