I have had respect for a few men in the last century. He is one of them.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/OvN1jTkzXbY?rel=0
:sigh: :2c:
Wasn't he supposed to be antichrist? Ronald(6)Wilson(6)Reagan(6) :doh:
I thought he was a good man and a great POTUS.
Hasnt every president since Eisenhouer been somebodies antichrist ? :laugh:
Quote from: joeteekay on January 01, 2015, 03:29:04 AM
I have had respect for a few men in the last century. He is one of them.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/OvN1jTkzXbY?rel=0
:sigh: :2c:
Ronny to Joeteekay:
I think he was a likeable man. Not sure much past that? Know I voted for him two times. Of course,that was back when I still believed that the Republican Party,was the party of God. Wasn't taught that at home,as I seldom if ever remember my parents,making a big deal out of,who they planned to vote for. Guess I got it from some of my church elders,that such was the party of God and I should always vote the same? And in later years and online,I had some fun with Democrats I met online. Told them,since I was taught the Republican Party was the party of God,you can see where that left you Democrats! :-) LoL
Smoke & mirrors. Every POTUS since JFK has been an errand boy, mostly tasked with distracting 'Mericans from those who really rule this former republic. :doh:
What if the antichrist has already come and gone?
CHB
There is no "the" antichrist.
Quote from: micah7:9 on January 01, 2015, 08:57:07 PM
There is no "the" antichrist.
Ronny to Micah:
What! You mean our present Presidident,isn't the Antichrist?! :-) Just kidding. LoL And was doing some reading one time and not sure if it was Gary Amirault or someone else who said this? But I agreed with the person,that the antichrist is whatever is within each of us,that wants our way,instead of God's way.
That's why there ain't no "the."
Concerning those who are in authority and leadership positions we are to be subject to them. I guess this means obey the laws of the land and be a good citizen in a Judea-Christian nation. I once thought there was a scripture that said to pray for these people God has put in a position of ruler ship, but I can't find it.[/b]
Rom 13: (CLV)
1 Let every soul be subject to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except under God. Now those which are, have been set under God,
2 so that he who is resisting an authority has withstood God's mandate. Now those who have withstood, will be getting judgment for themselves,
3 for magistrates are not a fear to the good act, but to the evil. Now you do not want to be fearing the authority. Do good, and you will be having applause from it.
4 For it is God's servant for your good. Now if you should be doing evil, fear, for not feignedly is it wearing the sword. For it is God's servant, an avenger for indignation to him who is committing evil.
5 Wherefore it is necessary to be subject, not only because of indignation, but also because of conscience.
6 For therefore you are settling taxes also, for they are God's ministers, perpetuated for this self-same thing.
7 Render to all their dues, to whom tax, tax, to whom tribute, tribute, to whom fear, fear, to whom honor, honor.[/size]
Amen to Rom. 13
Quote from: eaglesway on January 01, 2015, 04:48:01 AM
Hasnt every president since Eisenhouer been somebodies antichrist ? :laugh:
Yes, I suppose the Presidents since then have been called an anti christ by somebody, I can also remember some people saying that about Harry S Truman when he was in office and even a few people though to a lesser extent referring to FDR as an anti Christ during the war. Both of these Presidents had their better days and some grim difficult days while in office.
I thought Reagan had many helpful qualities in leading as POTUS, though he had his difficulties too.
Just about all presidents appeared to have full color to their hair when they entered office and come out silver haired, except Reagan and that might be because he cheated (the vanity of the flesh) and used hair coloring.
It appears that our Presidents and other world leaders going back who knows how long (clear back to Adam) have also been puppet dancers for Worldly powers that dictate the direction the Presidents are to follow , those that don't most always find themselves in the same tough situation that Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln and John F Kennedy did, fear is a tough taskmaster that is not slack in overtaking mortal beings such as we are, though in Christ we overcome ALL fear all in our own due time and order and not before, that is as I personally see it.
Fire Walker
Quote from: micah7:9 on January 01, 2015, 08:57:07 PM
There is no "the" antichrist.
micah,
What I should have said is, what was suppose to be the antichrist has already been and there is no antichrist today, except in our minds.
micah, I agree with what you said.
2 Thess 2:3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. 5 Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things? 6 And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. 8 Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; 9 that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, 10 and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved.
Rev 19.20 And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone.
Daniel 9:27
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Matthew 24:15
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso reads let him understand:)
These scriptures refer to what is commonly called "the antichrist". There are differences of opinion on the matter, but personally, I think there will be an individual who stands in the last days in that place, worthy of that designation. A signal final manifestation of the spirit of antichrist.
I see him[the antichrist] as synomonous with 'the prince of this world' bow down and do one act of worship and I will give
you all the kingdoms of the earth] Ultimately ,I believe the anti-Christ is a spirit..that covets god's throne/a deceiving spirit
transforming himself into 'an angel of light" I believe it was the same spirit on Pharoah of Egypt.[with his magicians competing with
lying signs].......Herod[to devour as the symbolic dragon on the earth/as parallel to signs in heaven/earth]....the religious
Pharisees and sadducees......that sought to put the heir of the vineyard/kingdom to death.....the persecutors of the 'promised
seed'..the same spirit active in Hitler with his madness and imitation 1000 yr reign.
our body[man's] is God's temple/throne/man created for God's spirit to dwell/rule in.........it is an anti-grace/salvation of all men
spirit. the spirit of the man-killer/liar/temptor/ accuser of the brethren.......
:2c:
satan divided against satan...his kingdom can not stand..thus I consider a worldly dominion aspiration[like hitler/Islam,NWO etc.]
remember it is a kingdom of darkness masquerading as an angel of light[if the light that be in ye,be darkness,how great is that
darkness.]
Quote from: sheila on January 05, 2015, 05:35:04 PM
...a kingdom of darkness masquerading as an angel of light...
The terrible figure that frightened Nebuchadnezzar, devolved from gold, to silver, to bronze, to iron, to iron + clay. At first it dazzled like an angel of light, but in the end, showed us its darkness. In the same manner the Church + Imperium which has held power and sway over western civilization for so long, developed the ideals of freedom and democracy. Now, the self-proclaimed proponents of freedom (free-dumb) and democracy (democrazy) squawk and prattle on about how they/we have brought freedom and democracy to the oppressed masses of such-and-such country. What they gloss over are the charred remains of those who got only the freedom of death, and democracy not at all. Here in the Time of the Toes (re Nebuchadnezzar's figure) the Stone cut out (not by the arm of flesh) will strike Church + Imperium and set up a new order and age. A kingdom of darkness remains so only until illuminated.
:thumbsup:
A little too late, but I liked this:
http://buzzpo.com/president-ronald-reagans-1981-christmas-address-nation/ (http://buzzpo.com/president-ronald-reagans-1981-christmas-address-nation/)
Quote from: RonnyTX on January 01, 2015, 10:06:24 PM
Quote from: micah7:9 on January 01, 2015, 08:57:07 PM
There is no "the" antichrist.
Ronny to Micah:
What! You mean our present Presidident,isn't the Antichrist?! :-) Just kidding. LoL And was doing some reading one time and not sure if it was Gary Amirault or someone else who said this? But I agreed with the person,that the antichrist is whatever is within each of us,that wants our way,instead of God's way.
hi! that's why i give the Bible absolute 1st place before all other sources, thinking and ideas..
[I apologize in advance for carrying on, but once i started typing I couldn't stop.]
The word indeed says there is "many antiChrists" and "a spirit of antiChrist". It also prophecies two or three leaders that fit the bill of antiChrist figures/leaders, such as Antiochus Epiphanes, the head of one of the four divisions of power and territory after Greece/Alexander the Great died, which division so persecuted Israel. We could say Hitler and all of his ilk were/are antiChrists even tho the world likes to claim Hitler was a Christian (albeit deeply involved in the occult). Days worse than any others is what such ones bring.. and the idea of a late days (in man's city&system of things) leader rising is not without Biblical support.. Imo, this is the world of God's letting mankind's choices (albeit limited) run their course. The problems facing mankind are getting to be insurmountable, but turning to God for solutions is not in the psyche of mankind/natural man. When this world, not built on the foundation of God (who iS life) further deteriorates, someone seeming to have answers and solutions would likely be welcomed and given much power and authority; and, or, much power and authority could/would be seized.
Indeed if we look at the world geopolitically we can easily see a determined building of a world governing body for many decades now. It's my belief this is symbolized in Rev 13:1-10. And my belief that when the 'little beast' (or office) of verse 11-18 who carried out verse 13, steps into strong alliance/the primary seat of the world beast/body of 1-10, well shortly thereafter the 10 divisions/toes/horns/heads will consume the gone global economy (or $ity, those dark streets of big cities which so abuse human beings within its shadows and dark alleys) - socialism will finally devour capitalism.. (rev 17:16)
Of course
many in Christendom have developed the habit of dismissing or ignoring the last book of the Bible, so, this is all like foolishness to many, and, imo, many will be caught unaware during the events which occur in the day when the towers fall (Isaiah).. Logic can show us however the very same thing the Book of Revelation does.. Main players - "false prophet"/teacher/teaching - "$ity Babble On which mesmerizes and seduces the world, 7 continents, with its "pornos" the Greek for "harlot" and "to sell" - a world beast/governing - a little beast/office of man, two horned which carried out 13:13 in 1945(dah??) - and the forehead/psyche of Babble-On responsible for all shed blood since Cain slew Abel, called Mystery Babble, all untruth.
A pentagram of five 'characters'.
Note, the two characters which are "thrown alive into the LOF" at Jesus' return, are not individuals but institutions/beliefs of mankind which are active at His return.. although one of them did begin as a man..
As you may see I believe there is
also a literal (besides a figurative/spiritual) fulfilling of Bible prophecy, just as there was a literal fulfilling of Bible Messiah prophecy and Israel national prophecies.. God, imo, being the same yesterday, today and also tomorrow..
:Peace2: :smile:
Quote from: Lazarus Short on January 06, 2015, 04:35:25 AM
Quote from: sheila on January 05, 2015, 05:35:04 PM
...a kingdom of darkness masquerading as an angel of light...
The terrible figure that frightened Nebuchadnezzar, devolved from gold, to silver, to bronze, to iron, to iron + clay. At first it dazzled like an angel of light, but in the end, showed us its darkness. In the same manner the Church + Imperium which has held power and sway over western civilization for so long, developed the ideals of freedom and democracy. Now, the self-proclaimed proponents of freedom (free-dumb) and democracy (democrazy) squawk and prattle on about how they/we have brought freedom and democracy to the oppressed masses of such-and-such country. What they gloss over are the charred remains of those who got only the freedom of death, and democracy not at all. Here in the Time of the Toes (re Nebuchadnezzar's figure) the Stone cut out (not by the arm of flesh) will strike Church + Imperium and set up a new order and age. A kingdom of darkness remains so only until illuminated.
I believe it is all of humanity which has made the world as it is.. Christendom has had its dark and not so dark side.. Jesus and the gospel was a GReat light to the nations, went forth conquering and changed the world.. unseated old 'gods' who had led astray and terrorized and abused the world for, well, since the beginning.. I believe the Magna Charter was a fruit of Christianity as well as the u.s. Constitution and Declaration of Independence/men's rights which proceed not from mankind, government, or kings, but from God.. (
Rev 12:14 a 2nd migration, for the most part, of the faith, now the mantle worn by Christianity; key, insert "by now" in verse 17c)
Of course the opposer&co is not going to take this lying down, but surely has his finger in every pie of life, working all angles of all things at all times.. Christianity is not a dictatorship, and yes there is and has been occurring a great falling away due to a strong delusion which has come to hold the world in its grasp, which has turned Christendom and the simple faith of every day folks, on its ear.. I simply cannot see Christianity as the enemy of God.. Even if it has lost some of the glory of its message, aNd, has picked up some baggage along the way.. Surely there are many sincere believers (and preachers/teachers/evangelists) within e.t. christianity.
This of course does not mean the nations of the Magna Charter and constitution, and the politics thereof, are not of this world system, etc.. Many others came to America's shores besides the Mayflower! (Rev 12:14).
:smile:
Ronald Reagan = Iran Contra :eek:
because demons delight in power and renown..many arise to positions as kings in the earth on the bodies of the men
they possess[see Herod/one of many]Satan offers all of them to Jesus for one act of worship..Jesus states 'my kingdom
is not from this source"[satan] Jesus kingdom comes from the Father as it's source.
Constatine,proclaiming the name of Christ rode a white horse with Christ's name and went forth conquering as
the holy roman empire..profaning God and Christ's name. Many false christs shall come in His name[wolves in sheeps
clothing] proclaiming 'I am the Christ" they will not treat the flock with tenderness[rose up from body of believers
as Paul spoke of.] such say 'Lord,Lord did we not do thus and thus...." He rebukes such spirits with...if you have
done it or/not done it unto one of these little ones who believe in me/ye have as done unto me " Babylon is destroyed
for the way she treated His little ones...and fornicating with the kings of the earth is the unholy alliance of harlotry.
the prince of this world blinds and deceives the entire inhabited earth..and Jesus testifies that his works are wicked.
like King Solomon who loved many foreign women[free to worship]and built temples unto their 'gods' until the heart
was turned away from unto the Lord[Jesus turns the heart unto the father's] so,too..this nation.
see Salem witch burnings
...how did the tares spring up,you planted good seed......do not pull up the tares lest ye uproot the wheat also...
let both grow togather until harvest.