What Delivering Over to Satan Means, and Sin in the Assemblies of God

[cgaviria]

This study explains what delivering over to Satan means and we why believers who continue in sin must be expelled from the assemblies. The study can be found in English here http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2017/11/25/what-delivering-over-to-satan-means-and-sin-in-the-assemblies-of-god/ or in Spanish here http://www.sabiduriadedios.co/2017/11/27/el-significado-de-entregar-a-alguien-a-satanas-y-pecado-en-las-asambleas-de-dios/ . Let us begin a discussion on these matters.

[sheila]

Jesustoldthem'what ever sins ye bindonearth are bound in heaven,whateversinsye looseon earth are loosed in heaven"He also said...

Judge NOTlest ye bejudged"Ijudge noman....the FatherjudgesNOman...." judge nothing before the appointedtime" ye judge by the

appearances of your eyes.  God also ...bound up ALLmen indisobedience...inorder to showmercy untothem all.The creature was

was subjected tovanity..not of it's own will..but by the will of it's creator..in order that[hope] the whole creation be set free.


also,in Daniel...the saints NOT SINNERS were overcome....and then the COURT SIT...and the time come when they recieve the

Kingdom.  The last day church...Laodaecian..is spewedfrom Hismouth[given overuntosatan] that the flesh be destroyed and the

spirit saved in the Day of Lord...that is when the last trump is sounded and we are allchanged inthe twinklingof an eye.

also..the parableof the wheat and tares growing togather...leave them alone..lest ye uproot the wheat...and the Harvest..where

first the tares are gathered intobundles[seperation]

I would also like to call to remembrance Jesus account of the righteous man who prayed unto himself..God,I am thankfulI am not like

this man over here.I tithe..dothus andthus. while theother man prayed..Lord,Be merciful to me a sinner.

   Our Father said," I shallnot always be angry,lest the very spirit[love] fail" did Jesus die for nothing?OR DID HE FULFILL HIS

MISSION AS SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD?

[rosered]

This study explains what delivering over to Satan means and we why believers who continue in sin must be expelled from the assemblies. The study can be found in English here http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2017/11/25/what-delivering-over-to-satan-means-and-sin-in-the-assemblies-of-god/ or in Spanish here http://www.sabiduriadedios.co/2017/11/27/el-significado-de-entregar-a-alguien-a-satanas-y-pecado-en-las-asambleas-de-dios/ . Let us begin a discussion on these matters.

  I have sure enjoyed   reading your   study on delivering over to Satan means and we why believers who continue in sin must be expelled from the assemblies Cgaviria !!   
Some are death and some are Life assemblies  it would seem  ... the sins of the fathers was Israel as sin of idolatry [Ezekiel  chapters 8 -10 ]  pretty plain speech describing what was hidden in their hearts   for our examples to learn from .

  I do believe   the sexually   immoral were the   so called religious  mindsets though .

  Jesus  befriended  the  low at birth folks and sinners  '' not knowing the law''  covenant of Moses , to prove this point   to me

It was those that used the law unlawfully that were in error   it seems .

  I recall Jesus telling everyone   that the Kingdom of God come by force   till John the baptist    .in Matt 11 ...

John the baptist represents all the law and prophets and that none were no better off than John the baptist  was !
Considered the least in the Kingdom of God  :eek: ,  wow what a statement   by Jesus to say Huh ?

  They could not proceed [go forward  into the promised land ]  with the law and ministration of death   without Christ  work  included,   as it is with us also .  they were still locked up under that law of death , till the fullness of time come WHEN GOD   THE FATHER sent  His only begotten son  as a baby  human form , born of woman under the same law and ministration of death , Jesus Christ was the open showing of all things and the great mystery of the ages  where there is no more excuses   to not Know God but though the Son , Being Gods heart of Love   for  all mankind ..

11Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has risen no one greater than John the Baptist.

Yet even the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

12From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been subject to violence, and the violent lay claim to it. 13For all the prophets and the Law prophesied until John....14And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come....

Big clue for us  to realize   that they all were preparing the WAY  for the Lord to come ,  like a bright star in a dark place , it is the same for us today  , eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and the judgments  in them  are a tough tutor   to lead us to Christ ...The Fire and Light [ Law of Love and Liberty] were to dry up the dragons flood of lies  hidden in the darkness within us  and the  dead bodies of water soaked up by our earth  that has kept mankind prisoner  for all those dark ages .

If you cannot  leave that tree alone you are still under the old law and covenant   witness  and must die by the same law  and standard  that you judge by and will  also be judged by it .

 
I agree that Satan/adversary  is able to accuse  the brethren  before God day and night   but no better off  than the ones he accuses !!  all are guilty before God     , there will be no boasting in the flesh ,  and thus the reason    for the destruction of the flesh so in the DAY OF THE LORD   their spirit will be saved    , it is the repeat   over and over again of the spirit of pride rising up in a man whom thinks He is somehow better off than  others and as smart as God  and knows everything  when it comes to God  , but he has no leg to stand on ...

But has been under the influence of Satan a LIAR  against the TRUTH   and thus a murderer     ,  We look  at Saul /Paul as a  prime example   of being   under the   influence  of the LIE  and  killing in Gods name  no less   in pure ignorance . [  his only excuse , but that will not be the case   for anyone this day and age  that the Light has come and you   reject the Light to expose   and dry up the  lies   in your flesh were Satan dwells  ]  For this reason  the Holy Spirit and fire was poured out   on all flesh   to convict us of sin    the hidden places  of darkness to penetrate  though  ]This IS the work  of the Lord Himself [To believe in God the Father  and whom He sent ]

This is the true meaning of the enemies of the Cross of Jesus Christ  plea, '' FORGIVE them Father''for  they do not know what they are doing ..

But Jesus come to Saul / Paul in the Spirit  of  OUR  Resurrected Christ  in all power and influence   over all things  of heaven and earth and below     and the Light shined like the DAY   and  Saul was blinded by the Light of His coming
  Causing the   those saying they see to be made blind      and those    Blind to be made to see   , a prophecy fulfilled in Saul / Paul and name changed as well   as given a  new heart of flesh  from a stony heart under the old law and ministration of death to kill  anyone breaking the law and are guilty of the same  error of sin nature working  in them .
     

Paul sums up many things Jesus Spoke of  LOVE being the only Thing that could and would ever perfect us all    and that was only though the LORD   JESUS CHRIST [THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD ]    being the   Lord and master of the living and the dead  For His Word holds all   captive  to Him are are subject to HIM   Till God be all in all    .
EVERYTHING IS HELD IN CHRIST RIGHT NOW  , There is nothing outside of Him    that exist  :HeartThrob:

Please read all of 1Cor 15   here is the main  reason I believe as I do .

  We must believe God  though Jesus Christ  we have no power of anything on our own merit  , it is  striving against God and Antichrist    in our foolish PRIDE of  vanity  and against our Maker  to be self righteous and hate , hate kills the innocent  and it is an evil of itself  , GOD IS ABLE , if He can save any of us at any time  , why would you limit  God   as to  saving any of  His own creation  that are of Him ?

I cannot help but think when God considered it the foolishness of preaching 1 Corinthians 1:21 to  those that did not know Him , again Saul thought he knew God  , but Paul DID KNOW GOD ..  our hearts and names change also ... I sure have seen myself in Saul and Paul  , and many names   in the WORD  OF GOD this Word , never changes . BOTH LAWS OF DEATH AND LIFE are in effect and do judge us all . It is an eternal Word and Eternal Spirit  that does not Change  , but changes us ... from enemies  to friends  and family of God .

  The Order of Resurrection
20But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.

21For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.

22For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

23But each in his own turn: Christ the firstfruits; then at His coming, those who belong to Him.



24Then the end will come, when He hands over the kingdom to God the Father after He has destroyed all dominion, authority, and power.


25For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet.

26The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

27For "God has put everything under His feet."

b Now when it says that everything has been put under Him, this clearly does not include the One who put everything under Him.

28And when all things have been subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will be made subject to Him who put all things under Him, so that God may be all in all.

  There will be no more death and crying and tears ever again as the LAW  OF LOVE  REIGNS SUPREME   Rev 21   it is what GOD WILL DO !

A New Heaven and a New Earth
...3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying:

"Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man, and He will live with them.

They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them as their God.

4He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the former things have passed away."

5And the One seated on the throne said, "Behold, I make all things new." Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are faithful and true."...

Again were are judged by our own words  , every idle  and idol word is  measured against the TRUTH ..

both laws have always been in effect   and both laws affected  those whom served them ,

  Life and  death are yours  by   your own WORDS     YOU JUDGED BY THEM , as trees of knowledge of good and evil or the trees of Life   

...20With the fruit of a man's mouth his stomach will be satisfied;

He will be satisfied with the product of his lips.

21Death and life are in the power of the tongue, And those who love it will eat its fruit.

22He who finds a wife finds a good thing And obtains favor from the LORD....

Matthew 12:37
For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned."

Proverbs 10:19
When there are many words, transgression is unavoidable, But he who restrains his lips is wise.

Proverbs 12:13
An evil man is ensnared by the transgression of his lips, But the righteous will escape from trouble.

Proverbs 13:2
From the fruit of a man's mouth he enjoys good, But the desire of the treacherous is violence.

Proverbs 13:3
The one who guards his mouth preserves his life; The one who opens wide his lips comes to ruin.

Proverbs 21:23
He who guards his mouth and his tongue, Guards his soul from troubles.

Isaiah 3:10
Say to the righteous that it will go well with them, For they will eat the fruit of their actions.

Hosea 10:13
You have plowed wickedness, you have reaped injustice, You have eaten the fruit of lies. Because you have trusted in your way, in your numerous warriors,
 
  This is the very  reason Jesus told us to eat His body and drink His blood that you might have LIFE in you  , He is the  first fruits of the HOLY SPIRIT   for us to be eating  , all that working  of God  was for our benefit   and  was for our own good    that made those sacrifices and labor of Love   to be able to receive   Gods mercy   and grace though the Lord Jesus Christ    Body of believers    it is a living thing for sure .

Sinning against Gods Wisdom is a foolish way to go down that broad path that leads to destruction[sons of perdition] suffering  great  loss  . but though a fire

1Corh 3 ;15 14If what he has built survives, he will receive a reward.

15If it is burned up, he will suffer loss. He himself will be saved, but only as one being snatched from the fire. 16Do you not know that you yourselves are God's temple, and that God's Spirit dwells in you?...

It  is a very personal thing to you , and yet   God is no respecter of persons !  You choose this day whom you will serve  ,
death or life    Joshua 24:14-15
We Will Serve the Lord"
14 "Now, therefore, fear the Lord and serve Him in sincerity and truth; and put away the gods which your fathers served beyond the River and in Egypt, and serve the Lord. 15 If it is disagreeable in your sight to serve the Lord, choose for yourselves today whom you will serve: whether the gods which your fathers served which were beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living; but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord."


Do not love death but LOVE LIFE IN CHRIST   the wisdom of God ..Proverbs 8 The Excellence of Wisdom
...35"For he who finds me finds life And obtains favor from the LORD. 36"But he who sins against me injures himself; All those who hate me love death." 

    Thanks Sheila   for you comments and Agree  !