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Title: What are your hopes about...
Post by: sparrow on March 05, 2009, 06:31:44 PM
heaven. About after your life is through, when you die, where you go...

What do you "hope" about what God has in store for us (in heaven or whatever you want to call it.)  ??

Please... go deep down in your heart of hearts and get as basic as you can.
What do you dream... what do you wish????
I guess that is my main point, so let me re-word it.

What do you wish heaven to be?

What would be your own personal heaven?
Sure, we have no idea what's going to happen really or what things will be like, we may never even be able to compare. And this is sort of like an ant all of a sudden living life as a human, they can't even comprehend the possiblities.
BUT...
What do you hope is INCLUDED in your heaven...

Be as detailed as you want.
And don't be afraid of sounding childish or having childish thoughts or what have you...
please... just let it all hang out.
your deepest wishes...
I really need to know what other people feel.

Thank you in advance to anyone who participates.
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: WhiteWings on March 05, 2009, 07:41:07 PM
For me heaven would be:
a] Being 4-6 years old forever. I always remember those days as sunny. Sun is rare where I live...
b] Be a dog playing with a ball. That's just 100% pure happines without any second thoughts.
c] Cottage at a lake. Plus an endless supplies of flat pebbles  :winkgrin:
d] Plenty of other things that are classified as 'the pit material'....
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: sven on March 05, 2009, 09:17:12 PM
I hope all people ever lived will be friends, those wo were friends in this life shall be special friends, I hope God beeing a kind of good father and Jesus maybe a big brother, I hope this is not blasphemous.

to be honest I have no idea how the afterlife will be like, btw I don't like the term 'heaven', i prefer to say paradise or the Jewish terms olam haba or maybe gan eden to express my idea of the afterlife.
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: sparrow on March 06, 2009, 02:40:12 AM
Quote from: WhiteWings on March 05, 2009, 07:41:07 PM
For me heaven would be:
a] Being 4-6 years old forever. I always remember those days as sunny. Sun is rare where I live...
b] Be a dog playing with a ball. That's just 100% pure happines without any second thoughts.
c] Cottage at a lake. Plus an endless supplies of flat pebbles  :winkgrin:
d] Plenty of other things that are classified as 'the pit material'....

:happy3:

I love it!
hee... being a dog playing with a ball... that is so funny.  :laughing7:
Man, you don't know how cheered up and happy you made me feel with those thoughts...
thank you.  :happy3:
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: sparrow on March 06, 2009, 02:46:07 AM
Quote from: sven on March 05, 2009, 09:17:12 PM
I hope all people ever lived will be friends, those wo were friends in this life shall be special friends,



Me too. That's what I hope too. That everyone will be friends, but those we were close to and loved here during our earthly life, will be so much closer and "special" like just sharing a special bond forever. The closer you were the more important/special the bond. That's what I hope.

Quote from: sven on March 05, 2009, 09:17:12 PM
I hope God beeing a kind of good father and Jesus maybe a big brother, I hope this is not blasphemous.

I don't see that as being blasphemous at all. I think it's honest and lovely.

Quote from: sven on March 05, 2009, 09:17:12 PM
to be honest I have no idea how the afterlife will be like, btw I don't like the term 'heaven', i prefer to say paradise or the Jewish terms olam haba or maybe gan eden to express my idea of the afterlife.

That sounds nice. (I don't really like the term "heaven" either... wasn't really sure what else to call it.)
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: firstborn888 on March 06, 2009, 03:01:17 AM
Quote from: sparrow on March 06, 2009, 02:46:07 AM(I don't really like the term "heaven" either... wasn't really sure what else to call it.)

I 'saw' it for a split second (1977). Absolutely stunning. I focused on that split second for several years straight. After that food became optional and I even gave up women for over 4 years (!) a miracle for someone like me. In short - I wanted/needed nothing else.

My weight dropped dangerously low but when I got married I came back to the 'real' world again (and became overweight again - that girl can COOK!).

"Heaven" is a great term even though largely misunderstood. It's above, it's high. You look down on death like it's nothing because it is nothing. The history of this universe seems like a split second and everything is okay.
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: onlytruth on March 06, 2009, 03:06:34 AM
when i think of heaven...i want to think of my happy place,and i get such joy from that.
and then to understand that it is even better than i can imagine ...wow thats peace and rest :icon_king:
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: sparrow on March 06, 2009, 03:10:58 AM
Quote from: firstborn888 on March 06, 2009, 03:01:17 AM
Quote from: sparrow on March 06, 2009, 02:46:07 AM(I don't really like the term "heaven" either... wasn't really sure what else to call it.)

I 'saw' it for a split second (1977). Absolutely stunning. I focused on that split second for several years straight. After that food became optional and I even gave up women for over 4 years (!) a miracle for someone like me. In short - I wanted/needed nothing else.

My weight dropped dangerously low but when I got married I came back to the 'real' world again (and became overweight again - that girl can COOK!).

"Heaven" is a great term even though largely misunderstood. It's above, it's high. You look down on death like it's nothing because it is nothing. The history of this universe seems like a split second and everything is okay.

Wow. That is fascinating....!  :icon_flower:
Thanks for sharing that!
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: sparrow on March 06, 2009, 03:12:01 AM
Quote from: onlytruth on March 06, 2009, 03:06:34 AM
when i think of heaven...i want to think of my happy place,and i get such joy from that.
and then to understand that it is even better than i can imagine ...wow thats peace and rest :icon_king:

What's your happy place?
C'mon...

ok, you don't have to share if you don't want to.. :laughing7:
It's kind of a sacred thing, I know.  :HeartThrob:
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: sparrow on March 06, 2009, 03:15:37 AM
hey, you guys thanks for posting.
I remember a long time ago asking a similar question on an old forum I used to belong to...

man.
I got totally blasted. I was accused of focusing on the wrong things and how dare I?!
and that I was selfish and only concerned with pleasure and that I needed to pray and ask God to forgive me and to just "focus on Christ!!"  :thewife:

:sorry: Man, that sent me into a whirlwind of depression, confusion and just.... I don't know, ya'll.... just total sadness.

So glad I am now free to think about these types of things with a happy heart.  :icon_flower:
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: Taffy on March 06, 2009, 03:31:39 AM
Hey Little Bird :icon_flower:

I really didnt realise Our Bro Byron was a Babe magnet, Nate got his work cut out :icon_flower:

seriously thou.. if I  may?  My Happy place in this earthy realm, Is in a Field( we live In Britain where all is GREEN) with a panaramic veiw, watching the Sun Rise on beautiful  late spring Morn, sat while all are asleep , listening to the Birds , so Crisp  and  Fresh yet  still, as the dew on the Ground dampens your Feet, gently warming as the Sun blossoms  ..seems to last for ever...

Spring re- juvenates, Tis awesome... :icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower:

those thoughts have aided me in wanting to keep being here..tis another story that one :icon_flower:

:icon_flower:

Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: claypot on March 06, 2009, 03:48:49 AM
Sparrow, I was just this minute asking the same question to my kids.

For me I know exactly what I would like heaven will be to me. I think of it often, very often.

I want to ask God to let me experience all the earthly stuff I couldn't or wouldn't do before like skydiving, deep sea diving, mountain climbing and so forth. Now here is what I really want to do for a while. Have a cabin with a big fireplace on a mountain. I want to do a bunch of hiking and get a bit tired but real hungry. Then I want to go to my cabin and cook up the biggest, juciest steak I can imagine and have with it some big slices of good old texas toast with a lot of melted butter. Some garlic mashed potatoes and some peas and gravy. And sorry but I like A1 steak sauce too. I want to sit down and eat as much of this as I can and get full but not have that over full feeling.

This would be my beginning in heaven if I had my way.

cp
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: Cardinal on March 06, 2009, 04:04:39 AM
 :cloud9: I don't give one thought to what going to heaven is going to be like, mainly because my hope is in what I believe He is going to do in these last days, in a many membered body that will not see death by way of the grave. My  :2c: Blessings.....
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: claypot on March 06, 2009, 04:15:16 AM
Quote from: Cardinal on March 06, 2009, 04:04:39 AM
:cloud9: I don't give one thought to what going to heaven is going to be like, mainly because my hope is in what I believe He is going to do in these last days, in a many membered body that will not see death by way of the grave. My  :2c: Blessings.....

Card, I think this is just a place to let it all out in a relaxed kind of way. Just dreams of peace and contentment. There are so many levels to think on as you have often taught me. This is just another one.

Not saying you were negative in any way but just in case I wanted to add my  :2c:

cp
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: Cardinal on March 06, 2009, 04:19:24 AM
 :cloud9: Well, I didn't intend for it to sound negative, if it did; I guess I've always been an "oddball" that way, as I've just never longed to go there. I don't want to miss what I think He's going to do here! Blessings....
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: Taffy on March 06, 2009, 04:20:16 AM
Of course Cp :icon_flower:

Its Just a Matter of where we Dwell .

:icon_flower:
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: jabcat on March 06, 2009, 06:28:39 AM
Oh, I think this is a fine topic...I'll have to think about it though.  I'm afraid my limited mind comes up with something that I believe has already been nixed in scripture...in that I'd like to be in a perfectly blissful, loving male-female relationship (me being the male still  :laughing7:)...just doing great things, exploring places together...I'm thinking I'm probably carnal here too, in that, I probably should be thinking only of worshipping at Jesus' feet  :dontknow:.

Quote from: Cardinal on March 06, 2009, 04:19:24 AM
I don't want to miss what I think He's going to do here!

Hey Card, would you be open to a thread focusing on that, including what you see/have seen/understand?  Including in your last post, the "body that won't experience death by the grave"?  Just interested, maybe even intrigued...
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: firstborn888 on March 06, 2009, 06:44:58 AM
Quote from: Taffy on March 06, 2009, 03:31:39 AM
I really didnt realise Our Bro Byron was a Babe magnet

I really didn't realize (going from atheism straight to church) that all single 20 something female Christians are praying for a husband. Ask them to dinner and you instantly become God's obvious answer to their prayers. Yikes!!!  :mshock: :mshock: :mshock:
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: Cardinal on March 06, 2009, 07:26:29 AM
Quote from: jabcat on March 06, 2009, 06:28:39 AM

Quote from: Cardinal on March 06, 2009, 04:19:24 AM
I don't want to miss what I think He's going to do here!

Hey Card, would you be open to a thread focusing on that, including what you see/have seen/understand?  Including in your last post, the "body that won't experience death by the grave"?  Just interested, maybe even intrigued...

:cloud9: Sure, when I get time.....
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: jabcat on March 06, 2009, 07:29:58 AM
Good, I'll be watching  :thumbsup:...i see that as a good spin-off of this thread...you know, how one thought often (hopefully  :laughing7:) leads to another...God's blessing.
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: sparrow on March 07, 2009, 01:47:01 AM
Quote from: Taffy on March 06, 2009, 03:31:39 AM
seriously thou.. if I  may?  My Happy place in this earthy realm, Is in a Field( we live In Britain where all is GREEN) with a panaramic veiw, watching the Sun Rise on beautiful  late spring Morn, sat while all are asleep , listening to the Birds , so Crisp  and  Fresh yet  still, as the dew on the Ground dampens your Feet, gently warming as the Sun blossoms  ..seems to last for ever...

Spring re- juvenates, Tis awesome... :icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower:


That's lovely!  :icon_flower:
I shall visit you one morn and join you, if you don't mind.  :happy3:
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: sparrow on March 07, 2009, 01:51:50 AM
Quote from: claypot on March 06, 2009, 03:48:49 AM
Sparrow, I was just this minute asking the same question to my kids.

For me I know exactly what I would like heaven will be to me. I think of it often, very often.

I want to ask God to let me experience all the earthly stuff I couldn't or wouldn't do before like skydiving, deep sea diving, mountain climbing and so forth. Now here is what I really want to do for a while. Have a cabin with a big fireplace on a mountain. I want to do a bunch of hiking and get a bit tired but real hungry. Then I want to go to my cabin and cook up the biggest, juciest steak I can imagine and have with it some big slices of good old texas toast with a lot of melted butter. Some garlic mashed potatoes and some peas and gravy. And sorry but I like A1 steak sauce too. I want to sit down and eat as much of this as I can and get full but not have that over full feeling.

This would be my beginning in heaven if I had my way.

cp

To the bolded...Yes! I think of that all the time. People always seem sad when I tell them I've never been anywhere really, and y'know I don't feel so sad. Yeah, it would be nice, but I kinda feel like God is going to let me experience all of those things and sooooo much more!  :Sparkletooth:

I would also like to join you on one of your expeditions!  :happy3:
This is fun.. :laughing7: I'm lining up a bunch of cool adventures.. hee.
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: sparrow on March 07, 2009, 02:06:50 AM
Quote from: jabcat on March 06, 2009, 06:28:39 AM
Oh, I think this is a fine topic...I'll have to think about it though.  I'm afraid my limited mind comes up with something that I believe has already been nixed in scripture...in that I'd like to be in a perfectly blissful, loving male-female relationship (me being the male still  :laughing7:)...just doing great things, exploring places together...I'm thinking I'm probably carnal here too, in that, I probably should be thinking only of worshipping at Jesus' feet  :dontknow:.

Yes! Me too. This is like one of my main things that I like to think about. I feel that this is something very special that will be revealed. My husband is my best friend. So many possibilities.... I have faith that God will do things that are so much beyond our expectations.  Hmmm..this is a whole other topic, though. Maybe I'll get into this another day. (just all of my odd thoughts and "What if's" :happy3:
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: fire walker on March 07, 2009, 02:45:42 AM
Well, I had to ponder the deeper things of this question for some while before I could
reply, words can't ever fully express what it is we hope for but I can reply as far as
as the words can go.

Hope is to me of things that have not yet been seen, the things I would hope for in this world, age or life what ever way you read it is the same hope for the kingdom of heaven would be harmony, where every one has a place in the whole, to be enjoyed and appreciated by others as their servant in the area we are gifted to serve and we in turn shall appreciate and enjoy others in the area of life they are gifted to serve, harmony, love, peace and joy,as of now this has not been manifested in the world to any great wide spread extent we presently live in, the Prince of the power of the air is still at work in this world around us
and sadly still at work within the mortal flesh, yes I have hope in Christ, the ressurection to life but not in the mortal body condition we live in this world, nor all the corruption, wars, deception, sickness, hunger and nakedness we find ourselves in
because there is no peaceful harmony yet to much extent like I hope for other than gimpses of it inwardly.

Peace,
Fire Walker
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: onlytruth on March 07, 2009, 03:24:31 AM
another happy place ...would be walking in the cool of the day with our Father chatting about anything and  smiling and laughing back at each other.
i'm -also excited to see the kingdom come,and i refrain from word usages such as "when i die". since i long to walk fully in the kingdom
at the same time i know there is more... because all our hearts want to sing and dance with just joy ...and i hope it comes soon :icon_king:
have a great weekend everyone!!!
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: WhiteWings on March 07, 2009, 08:49:35 AM
Quote from: claypot on March 06, 2009, 03:48:49 AM
I want to ask God to let me experience all the earthly stuff I couldn't or wouldn't do before like skydiving, deep sea diving, mountain climbing and so forth.

Part of the fun of those sports is the thrill of danger. The danger that Mr. Claypot is dashed to pieces. Would it be the same with a boring indestructable body?
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: WhiteWings on March 07, 2009, 08:56:05 AM
Quote from: onlytruth on March 07, 2009, 03:24:31 AM
another happy place ...would be walking in the cool of the day

Clearly the ideal Heaven depends on where someone lived during his/her earthly life because I would write 'in the heat of the day' (if that's a correct expression)
I bet you live in a desert state. I live in a what 'what the heck no rain and fairly warm' kinda state.
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: sparrow on March 07, 2009, 09:18:18 AM
Quote from: WhiteWings on March 07, 2009, 08:49:35 AM
Quote from: claypot on March 06, 2009, 03:48:49 AM
I want to ask God to let me experience all the earthly stuff I couldn't or wouldn't do before like skydiving, deep sea diving, mountain climbing and so forth.

Part of the fun of those sports is the thrill of danger. The danger that Mr. Claypot is dashed to pieces. Would it be the same with a boring indestructable body?

I was JUST thinking of this exact thing earlier this evening.

Maybe it's kind of like a water slide... you KNOW you are sliding into water and won't be hurt. Does that take away the thrill? no! I think it enhances it because the fear is gone and all that is left is just pure glee. Just gleeness.
Gleeness isn't a word but it should be.

I think that we'll be able to experience things on an unimaginable level. Like, our eyes will have telescopic and microscopic abilities, etc.

Maybe we can "become" something...  in order to experience what it is like to BE that something.
Like maybe you are exploring the animal world and you can become a sloth hanging out in a tree.
You could become a gazelle... or a cheetah. All creation will be in harmony, so there is no carnivores, etc.

Or what if you could become water... rushing down a stream...
You "become" it, in the sense that you can experience everything there is to experience the thing you are exploring.
I think about that a lot. I wonder what it feels like to just be a tree? To have roots firm in the ground and reaching your branches upwards and to feel the leaves on the branches, and have all sorts of little birds and things make nests, and sing to you, etc. What if we could literally become stuff just so we can really fully experience this thing He has created?

Sometimes I think about seeing my dog that just passed away, and I was thinking... what If I could be a puppy with him? That's why I loved when you said "be a dog playing with a ball"!  :laughing7: I think... what if I could just for a little while be a dog and just run through meadows with my dog? How cool would that be?!

Maybe this earth is just the tip of the iceberg of what God has created! Maybe this is one teeny tiny sample. Can you imagine that? Do you know who many types of animals there are on earth? It's staggering...
What if there are new colors we can't even comprehend?

Maybe we start out slow and work our way up to different abilities and experiences...
What if it just keeps getting better and better and better and better.... for eternity?

I would love to be like a kid again...
where everything is new and exciting
and you are kind of unaware of your self, in a sense... you just BE and DO.

hmmm... well I have more thoughts but I better stop for now.  :laughing7:
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: martincisneros on March 07, 2009, 11:07:45 PM
Everyone understanding what you meant by such and such.

Everyone finally getting it, i.e. "you" and you understanding that wax build up between everybody else's ears that they've been calling a brain all this time:-)

For everyone to finally believe those instances of the more wreckless moments of many believers' lives that those were actually moments of divine inspiration and divine information, even if it looked the furthest thing from it 'cause it didn't quite fit in with our rules and the brand of unscriptural legalism that's peculiar to each of us.  Situations come to mind where what I was saying or what I was typing was 100% emphatically "thus saith the Lord" and the situations that were spoken to involved people that thought that I was totally bananas for asserting such and such, when had there been a flicker of doubt lasting so much as a quadrillionth of a second, then like anybody else I'd of very obviously backed down. 

(Isn't it sorta the things that a prophet won't back down from that should make folks nervous? ROFLOL!  Teasing aside in the way that I put that, it's usually the nonsense that's "negotiable.")

It's scary to honestly know that you know something and to be thought a total fool by those that such and such information would have the most baring on.  Wind up having to live down countless situations where the love of God is literally bursting through your heart towards another person or towards others, as the case may be, and to be thought totally wacko when you'd be willing to back it up with your life's blood being extracted in more painful ways than by either crucifixion or juicing.  That's actually what the deepest Hell looks like. 

So, what's the opposite of that?  For everyone to be able to retrace every step that God took towards them, among them, through them, beside them, from the craziest most Twilight Zonish left field, from the most nonchalant whatever, et. al. 

From the child's perspective, to know that you were right about something that seemed to be such a secret to everybody else; being the child who was formerly slapped with everything that your mother had for lying because you said that a man swooped down out of the sky and got your cat out of the tree for you -- only to see the speechless look on your mother's face when that first exclusive that Lois Lane had with Superman came out in the newspaper.

From the perspective of the grieving Superman: each life being restored that you couldn't reach in this life; each man, woman, child, and animal that you couldn't rescue from harm's way suddenly not only fully conscious and having it together more than they ever did, but to know that they know that you did absolutely everything that you could have done.  For your best to no longer look like "not quite good enough" in your own eyes and in your perspective of how everyone else around you sees you.

For everyone who lived all of their lives under the gloomy shadow (NIGHTMARE!) of all that they could never quite live up to, to suddenly be freed from those burdens that were brought in with the "by the sweat of your brow" curse that came into the world in the Garden of Eden.  Being with and like Christ Jesus without the struggle to be, being present.  Every wrong relationship having been made right between every thought, every impulse, every molecule, every breath, every particle of gravity, every particle of time, every particle of space, every particle of every other demension, and every word -- now that would be heavenly!!
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: sparrow on March 07, 2009, 11:41:07 PM
Quote from: martincisneros on March 07, 2009, 11:07:45 PM
For everyone who lived all of their lives under the gloomy shadow (NIGHTMARE!) of all that they could never quite live up to, to suddenly be freed from those burdens that were brought in with the "by the sweat of your brow" curse that came into the world in the Garden of Eden.  Being with and like Christ Jesus without the struggle to be, being present.  Every wrong relationship having been made right between every thought, every impulse, every molecule, every breath, every particle of gravity, every particle of time, every particle of space, every particle of every other demension, and every word -- now that would be heavenly!!

:thumbsup: This is why Hitler will be in heaven. Love overcomes ALL.
The most evil of things that a person or group of people can do on earth... the love to overcome it, is what will make everyone knees buckle. That is part of the reason every knee shall bow. Not out of force. The "every knee shall bow" is a picture of everyone's REACTION to God's Love.

There is NOTHING we can do to escape the love of God.
Nothing.
It's fruitless to try to get away from God's love.
That's part of why we are here on earth.
Evil has to play out to the end.
Evil has to be exhausted, so it can finally become...irrelevant and obsolete.
From the most minor forms of evil to the most major forms of evil.

LOVE (God) overcomes ALL.
Picture in your mind... those who suffered in concentration camps, and picture those who infliced the suffering having died and being faced with God. Now picture those victims walking up behind God.... The prison guard who inflicted the torture, trembles and falls to the ground. However, now see those victims reaching down and lifting up the prison guard and embracing him and the love of God washes over him. See the forgiveness and mercy. See the love. Now tell me, where is the power... in the EVIL that occurred on earth? Or in the amazing transformation that LOVE (God) had on all involved in the next life??  Fear no evil. This is what it is all about.... This is the glorious, amazing picture that is being painted for us.
No matter how far evil goes...LOVE will ALWAYS go farther and transform and overcome it. Amazing. God.IS.Love. And this world is more than it seems.... :HeartThrob:

It's simply heavenly when these types of transformations happen on earth.  :happy3: That's why ya gotta spread the love around and love your enemies, etc.



:icon_flower:
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: Akira Takahashi on March 09, 2009, 04:16:24 AM
If I could tailor Heaven to my liking, then it would be a place where all my pets (or non-human family) are there, and while I hope that everyone ever born is there, I would like my own private retreat.  I dislike crowds, so some place where I could go and be alone for a spell would be fantastic.

Oh, and I want wings.  This isn't a top priority kind of thing, but I always wondered why all the depictions of people in Heaven have wings.  It would be hard to sleep with them, though.  Come to think of it, it would be difficult to sit, dress, and pretty much do anything.  Oh well.

And I want to see Jesus' hands.  When I was a kid, I used to wonder if the holes in his hands and feet were still there, so inspecting his hands is a must for me!
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: sparrow on March 09, 2009, 04:19:17 AM
Quote from: Akira Takahashi on March 09, 2009, 04:16:24 AM
If I could tailor Heaven to my liking, then it would be a place where all my pets (or non-human family) are there, and while I hope that everyone ever born is there, I would like my own private retreat.  I dislike crowds, so some place where I could go and be alone for a spell would be fantastic.

We think alike!  :icon_flower:

Quote from: Akira Takahashi on March 09, 2009, 04:16:24 AM
Oh, and I want wings.  This isn't a top priority kind of thing, but I always wondered why all the depictions of people in Heaven have wings.  It would be hard to sleep with them, though.  Come to think of it, it would be difficult to sit, dress, and pretty much do anything.  Oh well.

:laughing7:


Quote from: Akira Takahashi on March 09, 2009, 04:16:24 AM
And I want to see Jesus' hands.  When I was a kid, I used to wonder if the holes in his hands and feet were still there, so inspecting his hands is a must for me!

:HeartThrob:
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: Akira Takahashi on March 09, 2009, 05:35:52 AM
Quote from: martincisneros on March 07, 2009, 11:07:45 PM
For everyone who lived all of their lives under the gloomy shadow (NIGHTMARE!) of all that they could never quite live up to, to suddenly be freed from those burdens that were brought in with the "by the sweat of your brow" curse that came into the world in the Garden of Eden.  Being with and like Christ Jesus without the struggle to be, being present.  Every wrong relationship having been made right between every thought, every impulse, every molecule, every breath, every particle of gravity, every particle of time, every particle of space, every particle of every other demension, and every word -- now that would be heavenly!!

That speaks to me, Martin.  You hit the nail on the head every time!
Title: I would like to....
Post by: Nancy on March 09, 2009, 07:16:40 PM
Hi there sparra,

When i'd get to heaven, i would want to see my fur family, relatives, people who i admired on earth, Elvis, Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Joan of Arc, etc. But obviously Jesus first of all, obviously!!!

I would like to know all things, i.e. who built the pyramids and why and to see them as they were when they were first built. The reason why things are as they are. To be able to eat meat without it being meat, if you know what i mean, looks and tastes like meat but not made from animals and food that you don't have to cook, it's always ready!!
I don't know if any of you have heard of Thomas Kinkade and his art. To me that is heaven.
Godbless
Nancy
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: claypot on March 09, 2009, 08:35:17 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on March 07, 2009, 08:49:35 AM
Quote from: claypot on March 06, 2009, 03:48:49 AM
I want to ask God to let me experience all the earthly stuff I couldn't or wouldn't do before like skydiving, deep sea diving, mountain climbing and so forth.

Part of the fun of those sports is the thrill of danger. The danger that Mr. Claypot is dashed to pieces. Would it be the same with a boring indestructable body?

Did you notice when I wrote about my cabin on a mountain and me eating my big steak, did you notice I said that as I hiked on the mountain I hope to get a bit tired and very hungry? You got to have more imagination WW and more faith in God!  :happy3: Just kidding.

Now you are asking if I'm hoping to be able to get a little bit hurt to make it all a challenge? No, I hate pain. I'm sticking with what Sparrow said. Maybe I can imagine just a bit what it would've been like to fall without having to actually get all bloodied up and racked in pain when I actually fall. Did I say 'when'?

By the way, I don't like killing cows either but I hope God can get me a steak without killing a cow. Think He can?

cp
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: WhiteWings on March 09, 2009, 08:43:20 PM
Quote from: claypot on March 09, 2009, 08:35:17 PM
By the way, I don't like killing cows either but I hope God can get me a steak without killing a cow. Think He can?

If you can't eat cows why are they made of meat?  :laughing7:
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: claypot on March 09, 2009, 08:47:31 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on March 09, 2009, 08:43:20 PM
Quote from: claypot on March 09, 2009, 08:35:17 PM
By the way, I don't like killing cows either but I hope God can get me a steak without killing a cow. Think He can?

If you can't eat cows why are they made of meat?  :laughing7:

That tis a good one? I've asked a lot of questions in my life but that's a show stopper!

cp
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: sparrow on March 10, 2009, 04:53:38 AM
I just thought of something kind of funny. The dream I had about my dog.
My dog died back in January. I had him for 13 years, needless to say it was rough-going after he died.
I thought I was literally going to die myself. I've been through death and it's never easy.
Anyway... One of the dreams that I had the week after he died (I had several very neat things happen after he died, one of them was the handful of dreams I had.) ANYWAY... I dreamt he was amazingly happy, healthy, feeling good and just surrounded by LOVE... and get this.. he had chocolates, and he was letting everyone have the best chocolates out of the box, and he was so happy to be letting everyone else have the best ones. I woke right up out of the dream and felt so peaceful.

It wasn't until the next day that I realized... HEY! Wait a minute! You're not supposed to be eating chocolate! You're a dog!  It's bad for you!!!!! Then I realized... oh wait. You're eating chocolate. This must be part of your heaven.  :laughing7: Being able to eat chocolates.

So.. I think my dog is hanging out with God, eating chocolates.  :grin:
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: Akira Takahashi on March 10, 2009, 05:00:03 AM
Ah, Sparrow, that's a great thought.  A "pet" of mine that I'd love to see in Heaven is my little goat, Eric.  He died when he was 4 weeks old, after coming home from a Bible camp demonstration.  I posted the whole story in another thread somewhere... I've still got to get a good picture of him up here (I may edit this tomorrow morning).  Anyway, I can't wait to see him again.  Not to mention all my other pets, but Eric was a bit special.

I don't think he'd eat chocolates, though.  He's probably singing, though.  He used to sing himself to sleep, as best as a goat can sing.  It sounded more like a hum, though.

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7791/dsc00227w.th.jpg) (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00227w.jpg)
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: sparrow on March 18, 2009, 07:30:58 AM
Akira! Oh my gosh... I just now saw the pic of your Eric!
He is so wonderful, I love him!
what a great pic. I want to give him a hug. (maybe when we're on the other side, I WILL!)  :icon_flower:
I  :HeartThrob: goats.


Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: Redlettervoice on March 18, 2009, 03:16:42 PM
Quote from: sparrow on March 10, 2009, 04:53:38 AM
I just thought of something kind of funny. The dream I had about my dog.
My dog died back in January. I had him for 13 years, needless to say it was rough-going after he died.
I thought I was literally going to die myself. I've been through death and it's never easy.
Anyway... One of the dreams that I had the week after he died (I had several very neat things happen after he died, one of them was the handful of dreams I had.) ANYWAY... I dreamt he was amazingly happy, healthy, feeling good and just surrounded by LOVE... and get this.. he had chocolates, and he was letting everyone have the best chocolates out of the box, and he was so happy to be letting everyone else have the best ones. I woke right up out of the dream and felt so peaceful.

It wasn't until the next day that I realized... HEY! Wait a minute! You're not supposed to be eating chocolate! You're a dog!  It's bad for you!!!!! Then I realized... oh wait. You're eating chocolate. This must be part of your heaven.  :laughing7: Being able to eat chocolates.

So.. I think my dog is hanging out with God, eating chocolates.  :grin:

Be ye as little children.  That's exactly how special
you are to God!! That He would fulfil YOUR desires even for
your dog!  Yes, it was God speaking to you! 
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: CHB on March 18, 2009, 05:32:07 PM

Well, you all have made heaven real for me already.  :cloud9: I could just picture myself in every post doing and seeing all the things everyone said.  I kind of liked Akira's idea about having a place of my own. I sometimes imagine myself being on my own planet with a big lake and cabin.

It would be nice just to have peace of mind knowing that death, sorrow and all the bad things were gone and only happiness remained.

CHB
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: sparrow on March 19, 2009, 02:18:18 AM
Quote from: Redlettervoice on March 18, 2009, 03:16:42 PM
Quote from: sparrow on March 10, 2009, 04:53:38 AM
I just thought of something kind of funny. The dream I had about my dog.
My dog died back in January. I had him for 13 years, needless to say it was rough-going after he died.
I thought I was literally going to die myself. I've been through death and it's never easy.
Anyway... One of the dreams that I had the week after he died (I had several very neat things happen after he died, one of them was the handful of dreams I had.) ANYWAY... I dreamt he was amazingly happy, healthy, feeling good and just surrounded by LOVE... and get this.. he had chocolates, and he was letting everyone have the best chocolates out of the box, and he was so happy to be letting everyone else have the best ones. I woke right up out of the dream and felt so peaceful.

It wasn't until the next day that I realized... HEY! Wait a minute! You're not supposed to be eating chocolate! You're a dog!  It's bad for you!!!!! Then I realized... oh wait. You're eating chocolate. This must be part of your heaven.  :laughing7: Being able to eat chocolates.

So.. I think my dog is hanging out with God, eating chocolates.  :grin:

Be ye as little children.  That's exactly how special
you are to God!! That He would fulfil YOUR desires even for
your dog!  Yes, it was God speaking to you! 

Thank you for saying that.  :HeartThrob:
Please know that your words really hit the right spot within my soul.
and I really needed  that, today.
Thank you.

I really can't wait to see my dog again.
so many things I wish I had done differently through the years.

I like what CHB just said "it would be nice just to have peace of mind knowing that death, sorrow and all the bad things were gone and only happiness remained." Amen. I find myself more and more everyday longing to be there. With each loved one that passes, the longing grows stronger. I can't wait for relationships to be restored and for them to be everything they were always meant to be, no more mistakes, no more regrets, no more sorrow over what you didn't do, just nothing but pure love and joy.
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: claypot on March 19, 2009, 03:46:52 AM
Quote from: sparrow on March 19, 2009, 02:18:18 AM
Quote from: Redlettervoice on March 18, 2009, 03:16:42 PM
Quote from: sparrow on March 10, 2009, 04:53:38 AM
I just thought of something kind of funny. The dream I had about my dog.
My dog died back in January. I had him for 13 years, needless to say it was rough-going after he died.
I thought I was literally going to die myself. I've been through death and it's never easy.
Anyway... One of the dreams that I had the week after he died (I had several very neat things happen after he died, one of them was the handful of dreams I had.) ANYWAY... I dreamt he was amazingly happy, healthy, feeling good and just surrounded by LOVE... and get this.. he had chocolates, and he was letting everyone have the best chocolates out of the box, and he was so happy to be letting everyone else have the best ones. I woke right up out of the dream and felt so peaceful.

It wasn't until the next day that I realized... HEY! Wait a minute! You're not supposed to be eating chocolate! You're a dog!  It's bad for you!!!!! Then I realized... oh wait. You're eating chocolate. This must be part of your heaven.  :laughing7: Being able to eat chocolates.

So.. I think my dog is hanging out with God, eating chocolates.  :grin:

Be ye as little children.  That's exactly how special
you are to God!! That He would fulfil YOUR desires even for
your dog!  Yes, it was God speaking to you! 

Thank you for saying that.  :HeartThrob:
Please know that your words really hit the right spot within my soul.
and I really needed  that, today.
Thank you.

I really can't wait to see my dog again.
so many things I wish I had done differently through the years.

I like what CHB just said "it would be nice just to have peace of mind knowing that death, sorrow and all the bad things were gone and only happiness remained." Amen. I find myself more and more everyday longing to be there. With each loved one that passes, the longing grows stronger. I can't wait for relationships to be restored and for them to be everything they were always meant to be, no more mistakes, no more regrets, no more sorrow over what you didn't do, just nothing but pure love and joy.

Amen and amen

This may not apply but I just heard it and liked it..................

All the evil in the world is the dark end of the light spectrum.

This is causing me considerable thinking. Considerable!

cp
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: sparrow on March 19, 2009, 04:23:23 AM
Quote from: claypot on March 19, 2009, 03:46:52 AM
This may not apply but I just heard it and liked it..................

All the evil in the world is the dark end of the light spectrum.

This is causing me considerable thinking. Considerable!

cp

hmmmm.

Quote1. Black is the absence of color (and is therefore not a color)

Explanation:
When there is no light, everything is black. Test this out by going into a photographic dark room. There are no photons of light. In other words, there are no photons of colors.

2. White is the blending of all colors and is a color.

Explanation:
Light appears colorless or white. Sunlight is white light that is composed of all the colors of the spectrum.  A rainbow is proof. You can't see the colors of sunlight except when atmospheric conditions bend the light rays and create a rainbow. You can also use a prism to demonstrate this.

Fact: The sum of all the colors of light add up to white.

Darkness.... is dull, nothing, joyless.

The light on the other hand... colorful and beautiful as a rainbow.

:icon_flower:




Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: Andromeda_Organa on March 21, 2009, 12:48:37 AM
Heaven to me would be my madeup galaxy! :icon_flower:
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: fire walker on March 26, 2009, 08:40:30 PM
pets?

Well yes, there was this particular cat in my life for many years, in the begining he was a stray farrow cat that walked off a low shed roof and onto my sholders, he chose me I didn't chose him, but he persisted and prevailed, gaining my care, attention and my heart.

When that cat died there was an empty place in my life like something missing, it took months for this to wear off, and yet even now I get a twinge of seing that cat
walking up to greet me, and hopefuly this may just be again.

Peace,
Fire Walker
Title: Re: What are your hopes about...
Post by: reFORMer on March 27, 2009, 07:15:22 AM
Quote from: Cardinal on March 06, 2009, 04:19:24 AM
:cloud9: Well, I didn't intend for it to sound negative, if it did; I guess I've always been an "oddball" that way, as I've just never longed to go there. I don't want to miss what I think He's going to do here! Blessings....
(I never had much interest in a Paradise until a friend said to me, "You'll be able to study the Bible all you want.")

I saw a large low incline stairway with saints and angels on its steps ascending and descending between earth and glory.  The voice said to me, "All saints go here."  With tightly closed eyes I turned my back to it and passionately said, "All I want is Jesus!"  And the golden glory of God, like liquid light, seeped between my tightly closed eyelids and filled my eyes.

My great fear was not "hell," even when I had the idea of it like others had told me.  I feared missing the glory of God.  And, like a clown I have, maybe to find out I'm actually loved by God anyway.  I knew not my day of visitation, again and again misunderstanding, abusing the messenger of God, failing to heed the presence of Celestial dignitaries, even worse, belittling them; but, self's uncertainty that hopes in God's merciful nature, like is said in the prophet Joel, "Who knows? He may reconsider and change his plan and leave a blessing for you," this is the portion lavished on me by the Great God in His tender pity for this shambling fumbler of low estate.  But a morsel from God, a crumb that falls from so glorious a table, is sufficient to sustain to life immortal.

Joel 2:13-14 (GW) . . .
13 Tear your hearts, not your clothes. Return to the Lord your God. He is merciful and compassionate, patient, and always ready to forgive and to change his plans about disaster.
14 Who knows? He may reconsider and change his plan and leave a blessing for you. Then you could give grain offerings and wine offerings to the Lord your God.

The great pianist Oscar Levant once said something to the effect of, "The only goal of my life has been to achieve unconsciousness."  Unless we are found in a time we cannot know or God intervenes in a way that's  statistically exceedingly unusual, that is our destiny, at least for a season.

First, my earnest prayer is, "O God, that I may experience contiuously the presence of God manifesting in power!"

Secondarily, I do delight in being without time restraints comfortably on the veranda bordering a beautiful garden with a handful of dear friends searching out God's word together as we eat and drink and fellowship . . .

I'm with ya' Cardinal.  God has sown in us that it would spring forth and be revealed.  "When He appears, we will appear with Him in glory." All of creation and ourselves too are in birth pangs for the manifestation of the lawful inheritors of God.  They shall be in the liberty of the glory, their physical aspect married to the Resurrection, fulfilling all creation.