What are false teachers/prophets?

Started by WhiteWings, July 15, 2011, 07:25:46 PM

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CHB

Quote from: WhiteWings on July 15, 2011, 07:25:46 PM
Everyone that teaches wrong things?
Or only those that teach false thing on purpose (for personal/political gain)?

So is a honest iman (muslim) a false teacher?

I think it is those who CLAIM to be prophets and teachers of the truth. Those who CLAIM God chose them to teach the truth but teach things that are false.

But as you said "All teachers are in a way false because none has the complete truth/understanding. (except Father, Son and HS)"

The only difference is, some do not claim to have the whole truth, or teach, do as I say or else.

CHB

Molly

#26
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ to all and on all them that believe: for there is no difference:

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Whom God has set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
--Rom 3

Molly

for he was looking ahead and including them in what he would do in this present time. God did this to demonstrate his righteousness, for he himself is fair and just, and he declares sinners to be right in his sight when they believe in Jesus.
--Rom 3:26


For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."
--Rev 19:10

sheila


     you have the deceived...that speak from the spirit of the liar.........any false teachings that someone may unintentionally utter...will be burned up

  [straw,wood etc] by His refining fire.   Hower the spirit of the liar  will be consumed with the breath of His coming   There are many anti-christs.....

   people deceived by this spirit.  Paul is a good example, he was persecuting the body...but the Lord did away with that spirit with the breath of His coming.

    It is said ,'I am the least of the apostles,and do not even deserve to be called an apostle,because I persecuted the church of God"

   He typifies the tribe of Benjamin...the last born or least of the flock.

       we have all been called out of deception from Babylon...His spirit will reveal misunderstandings,false perceptions....

   Matt 25;45    I tell you the truth,whatever you did not do to one of these least of these,you did not do to me

   

Molly

It's so easy to have anger towards the liars.

But, if he can forgive, so can we.  Because the flip side of an angry Paul is Benjamin, son of the right hand.  And, the elder shall serve the younger.


"Benjamin"
H1144
בּנימין
binyâmı̂yn
bin-yaw-mene'
From H1121 and H3225; son of (the) right hand; Binjamin, youngest son of Jacob; also the tribe descended from him, and its territory: - Benjamin.

micah7:9

Quote from: Molly on July 17, 2011, 11:31:12 AM
It's so easy to have anger towards the liars.

But, if he can forgive, so can we.  Because the flip side of an angry Paul is Benjamin, son of the right hand.  And, the elder shall serve the younger.


"Benjamin"
H1144
בּנימין
binyâmı̂yn
bin-yaw-mene'
From H1121 and H3225; son of (the) right hand; Binjamin, youngest son of Jacob; also the tribe descended from him, and its territory: - Benjamin.

:bigGrin: :thumbsup:

eaglesway

A few points, false being a key word, a prophet who has false (mixed or selfish) motivations

"I am he who tries the reins and the hearts"

13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. 14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. 15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. 16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. 17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure , then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. 18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

False prophets

Tru prophets

"Let the prophets speak, two or three, and let the others judge(discern)"......" test all things hold fast that which is good"...."all may prophesy so that all may be edified"

All prophets need to be discerned whenever they prophesy regardless of track record, the living word is the discerner, in the council of brethren.

12 For the word of God is quick , and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

The heart is the issue:

24 But if all prophesy , and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: 25 And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth. 26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together , every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

The issues of the heart- clear water prefered

The word prophet comes from a word that means "bubbling over". Overflowing with the heart of God. His word comes from His heart because He Is Who He Is.
The Logos is complete, but it is not completely understood. http://www.hell-is-a-myth.webs.com/