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UR proven in 2 verses

Started by WhiteWings, October 17, 2009, 08:06:12 PM

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ACVActs 10
34 And having opened his mouth, Peter said, In truth, I am overwhelmed that God is not partial,

ACVActs 9
4 And after falling to the ground, he heard a voice saying to him, Saul, Saul, why do thou persecute me?

On the road to Damascus, Jesus hater Saul was converted by force. He got saved without doing any seeking for Jesus at all.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

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Quote from: Gab on October 19, 2009, 04:51:06 AM


You don't have to look far:

"Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses (apolesas) one of them. Does he not leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost (apololos) sheep until he finds it? And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, 'Rejoice with me; I have found my lost (apololos) sheep.' I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent." (Luke 15:4-7)

"When he came to his senses, he said, 'How many of my father's hired men have food to spare, and here I am starving to death (limo apollumai, am being lost to famine)! I will set out and go back to my father and say to him: Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son; make me like one of your hired men.'" (Luke 15:17-19)

"The son said to him, 'Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.'  But the father said to his servants, 'Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let's have a feast and celebrate. For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost (apololos) and is found.'" (Luke 15:21-24)

And then when he who was not apololos protests...

"'My son,' the father said, 'you are always with me, and everything I have is yours. But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost (apololos) and is found.'" (Luke 15:31-32)

All are conjugations of apollumi.

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Quote from: Cardinal on October 19, 2009, 05:45:25 PM
:cloud9: WW, I think there's enough in there to support that we don't even repent independent of Him putting it in our hearts to do so. I know I definitely didn't go looking for Him, He came after me with "guns" blaring, LOL. When Jesus said you can NOTHING without Me, He meant it.

The purpose of the HG is to take all men to the cross. Some go kicking and screaming, some go willingly, but ALL go to the cross, one way or another. Blessings....

Amen, yes we do! (I'm trying to be more willing... lol)

Quote from: sven on December 19, 2009, 11:18:50 PM
QuoteI'm just trying to locate a one-liner that clearly puts Jesus is charge. So Jesus searches the sinner. Not the sinner searching Jesus (repenting).

the sheep and the coin,

the sheep know they are lost but can't return on their own

the coin not even knows that it is lost

yet all are found

YES, Amen!
Great posts!!